CBS Face the Nation Host Bob Schieffer Dumb Struck by Obamacare Adviser Jonathan Gruber’s Comments … “I Am Not Wild About the New Plan and How It Became Law Either”
I wonder who was more “dumb struck” this Sunday morning, CBS Bob Shiefer or the public watching CBS and hearing for the first hearing Jonathan Gruber’s name and that an Obamacare adviser called them stupid?
This Sunday on CBS ‘Face the Nation,’ Bob Shieffer provided an editorial that was interesting on a couple of levels. First, how many time do news viewers hear an editorial that is breaking news? CBS News has not covered this story, unless you count the 13 seconds on The Eye Opener. Second, we learned that Shieffer, a lib, is not a fan of Obamacare, nor how the plan became law. However, Bob does need a little learning to have a couple of his questions answered. Mr. Schieffer, Gruber does not think the plan was bad. In fact, he likes it. He, like Barack Obama, knew that the truth of Obamacare would never pass, that is why they lied to the American people. But the ends justify the means and lying to “We the People” is fine in their book.
I was dumbstruck when I heard the comments surfacing from and economist named Jonathan Gruber who was paid $400,000 to help shape the presidents health care plan. First, he told us how the plan passed only because a lack of transparency and this is a direct quote, ‘the stupidity of the American people’. [...] I’ll be honest, while I favor health insurance, I am not wild about the new plan and how it became law either. Here is my question for Mr. Gruber, if all this was as bad as you say, why did you take the money you earned as an adviser? Nor is it to late to give it back. What we have here is another example of the sorry state of American politics where people take money for things in which they don’t believe and whether it is good for the America people is not even a question.
No, what we have here is a sorry state of American politics where we have a President of the United States who perpetrated the greatest hoax on the American people and a complicit media who cared Obama’s water by never asking any questions about a health care plan that many knew was a lie. Let’s get some facts correct, the “stupidity of the American people” that Gruber is referring to is Obamacare supporters, not Conservatives and Republicans. Take a look at the Obamacare polls from the outset at RCP, it has always been widely opposed.
A government, no matter what party is in office, is supposed to be questioned by an unbiased media. The Press is supposed to protect us from an out of control government, not be their propaganda machine. However, today’s MSM has no concept why the US Constitution provided Freedom of the Press.
The First Amendment of the United States Constitution protects the right to freedom of religion and freedom of expression from government interference. See U.S. Const. amend. I. Freedom of expression consists of the rights to freedom of speech, press, assembly and to petition the government for a redress of grievances, and the implied rights of association and belief. The Supreme Court interprets the extent of the protection afforded to these rights. The First Amendment has been interpreted by the Court as applying to the entire federal government even though it is only expressly applicable to Congress. Furthermore, the Court has interpreted, the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment as protecting the rights in the First Amendment from interference by state governments.
Posted November 16, 2014 by Scared Monkeys
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TV Anchor Melissa Francis Reveals That She Was Silenced When She Questioned the “Math of Obamacare” On the Air at CNBC
MEDIA BIAS: THE LIBERAL MEDIA CARRYING THE WATER FROM BARACK OBAMA …
Melissa Francis, the current anchor of ‘Money with Melissa Francis’ on the Fox Business Channel revealed Friday that she was silenced when she was an anchor at CNBC by execs when she dared question the math of Obamacare. She was told that she was disrespecting the office of the presidency by having the audacity of pointing out the obvious to her viewers, that the math of Obamacare simply didn’t work, in that you couldn’t add millions of people to the system and force insurance companies to cover their pre-existing conditions without raising the price on everyone else. Scolded by management for questioning the government? Really, isn’t that their job and a reason why we have a Freedom of the Press? This was a business show, how could any responsible individual not ask or point out such a simple premise? But not for the suits at CNBC, they might as well called her a racist as well. But when you are the liberal MSM, part of the Democrat/Obama media complex simply in place to be a propaganda vehicle, you must silence all opposition to liberal policy, especially when it is a lie.
Jonathon Gruber telling you that the architects of Obamacare think that you that you are stupid. And most importantly they are counting on your lack of economic understanding. They are not the only villains in this story. They are also depending on the liberal media to cover up the truth. So far NBC, ABC, the Los Angeles Times, the Associated Press, and others, have been only too happy to comply. Those outlets have not even mentioned the video evidence from Jonathan Gruber. It’s shocking, but it actually doesn’t surprise me because when I was at CNBC, I pointed out to my viewers that the math of Obamacare simply didn’t work. Not the politics by the way. But just the basic math. And when I did that, I was silenced.
“It’s shocking, but it actually doesn’t surprise me because when I was at CNBC, I pointed out to my viewers that the math of Obamacare simply didn’t work. Not the politics by the way. But just the basic math. And when I did that, I was silenced,” Francis said.
“I said on the air that you couldn’t add millions of people to the system and force insurance companies to cover their pre-existing conditions without raising the price on everyone else,” she continued. “I pointed out that it couldn’t possibly be true that if you like your plan, you can keep it. That was a lie. And in fact, millions of people had their plans canceled.”
After making the comments, Francis said she was called into a meeting by management and told he was “disrespecting the office of the president.”
I think we now know that Melissa Francis was 100% correct.
Gruber-gate: Jonathan Gruber Says 2009 White House Meeting Included the CBO Director, Robert Gibbs, David Axelrod and Barack Obama
Another day and another damning Jonathan Gruber VIDEO for Barack Obama and the Obamacare HOAX …
UNREAL, JUST ABSOLUTELY CORRUPTLY UNREAL … As if four VIDEOS were not enough of MIT economist professor Jonathan Gruber mocking the American people as too stupid to understand and his condescending, willful and premeditated deception on Obamacare, now comes another one. This time it is Gruber in an interview with Frontline. Gruber says that Barack Obama was in the room when discussing the Cadillac tax lie.
“So we had a meeting in the Oval Office with several experts, including myself, on what can we do to get credible savings on cost control that the Congressional Budget Office would recognize and score as savings in this law.”
Republicans criticized the meting back in 2009 between the CBO director and The White House as inappropriate. Little did GOP Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell realize just how inappropriate it was.
McConnell said that “if the CBO is to have credibility, they’re the umpire. They’re not players in this game.”
CBO is tasked with providing “objective, nonpartisan, and timely analyses to aid in economic and budgetary decisions on the wide array of programs covered by the federal budget.”
The White House flatly rejected the idea that there was anything untoward about the invitation or the meeting, which took place on Monday for just under an hour. In addition to the president and Elmendorf, present in the meeting were White House officials such as Assistant to the President for Legislative Affairs Phil Schiliro, Director of the White House Office of Health Reform Nancy-Ann DeParle, Office of Management and Budget director Peter Orszag (a former CBO director himself), National Economic Council Director Larry Summers, chair of the Council of Economic Advisers Christy Romer, senior adviser David Axelrod, and press secretary Robert Gibbs.
Others were there as well, including Department of Health and Human Services adviser Meena Seshamani, Harvard University economist David Cutler and Alice Rivlin of the Brookings Institute, who was founding director of CBO from 1975-1983.
Posted November 15, 2014 by Scared Monkeys
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Charles Krauthammer: Obamacare Architech Jonathon Gruber & Democrats … [They] “Lied About Everything”
THE GREATEST HOAX AND FRAUD EVER PERPETRATED ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE …
Charles Krauthammer appeared on ‘The Factor’ with Bill O’Reilly to discuss the recent revelations of the Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber’s videos admitting Democrats knowingly lied with malice and forethought to the “stupid” American public in order to pass Obamacare. Krauthammer said … Democrats “lied about everything.”
Krauthammer also said that this was a scandal of the media that this had to be discovered in the 6th year of Obama’s presidency, rather than talked about at the time. I believe that Krauthammer’s comments on a scandal of the media need to be corrected. It was a scandal of the liberal-Democrat media complex of those in the MSM who protected and carried the water for Obama. There were some in the media who did questions Obamacare and knew it was a lie from the outset. We at SM knew it was a pile of BS from the beginning. However, even upon the release of not one, two, three, but four tapes with Gruber’s remarks stating that Obamacare was passed by lying and misleading the public, ABC, CBS and NBC still not covering the story.
“This is exactly what conservatives have been saying for four years. What we’re hearing now is the true voice of liberal arrogance. [T]hey believe they know the right way—they have to lead the masses to the Promised Land, and they can only do it by deception. And that’s what he said openly…[they] lied about everything.”
Posted November 14, 2014 by Scared Monkeys
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Liberal Media Double Standard: MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski of The Morning Joe … “If Gruber Were Republican, MSM Would Be Exploding”
I GIVE HER CREDIT, MSNBC’S MIKA BREZEZINKI SAYS … HAD GRUBER BEEN A REPUBLICAN, THE MSM WOULD BE EXPLODING.
The liberal media has avoided the Jonathon Gruber story like Ebola. As VIDEO after VIDEO after VIDEO after VIDEO appear of Gruber, the MIT professor who was also one of the architects and consultants of Obamacare, the liberal media Democrat complex is no where to be found. It is as if the liberal MSM was sucked into a black hole or were suddenly all put in the witness protection program as there has been a “virtual black out” of all Gruber’s remarks as to how Obamacare was passed. What’s the matter, is the media afraid of the truth? Or is it that they know they have now been nailed for the Obama water-carrying sycophants that they are?
You have to give credit where credit is due, even though the Libs at MSNBC tried to down play this. Sorry, Obamacare was the greatest HOAX ever perpetrated on the American people.
MIKA BRZEZINSKI: This Obamacare story, which I saw yesterday and I’m surprised it didn’t emerge . . . It’s an interesting dynamic. This broke yesterday, we kind of, were trying to get to it. Nobody covered it except for some right-wing outlets. Had this been a Republican, what do you think would have happened?
MIKE BARNICLE: Well, he is, this century’s version of David Stockman, who was Ronald Reagan’s original budget director. In 1981, in an extensive magazine piece in the old Atlantic magazine by Bill Greider, former Washington Post editor, David Stockman sat down with him. He was Reagan’s budget director, sat down with Bill Greider for many, many times, to explain the budget. And he said, basically, none of us really understands what any of these numbers are all about, the federal budget.
BRZEZINSKI: [facetiously] So let me guess, nobody dealt with it, right?
BARNICLE: President Reagan had no idea what those numbers were all about.
BRZEZINSKI: Just a few left-wing bloggers brought it up, right? It wasn’t covered? I think there was a huge firestorm, I believe.
HOWARD DEAN: There was.
BRZEZINSKI: Exactly, that’s my point!
BRZEZINSKI: That was a huge gaffe, right? We can all agree on that. I do think had it been a Republican, the media would be exploding.
DEAN: I think there’s a big stature gaffe between the office, the Director of the OMB and a consultant for the — that’s why it’s not a big deal.
BRZEZINSKI: Okay, that’s fair.
Nancy Pelosi Claims She Does Not Know Who Jonathan Gruber Is … FLASHBACK to 2009, Pelosi Touted Gruber’s Work
GRUBER-GATE CONTINUES: NANCY PELOSI, A SENIOR MOMENT? HARDLY, JUST MORE LIES FROM DEMOCRATS …
Embarrassed Democrats try to distance themselves from Jonathon Gruber … House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said Thursday that, not only did Jonathan Gruber not play a significant role in drafting Obamacare, but that she doesn’t even “know who he is.” Really San Fran Nan, is that your final answer? I feel like I am watching the game show ‘Who Wants to be a
Millionaire, LYING DEMOCRAT.’ But of course it would appear that Peosi is trying to “gruber” the American people as she thinks we are stupid too. Has she learned nothing about this invention called video tape and the Internet? In 2009 at the height of the Obamacare debate, Nancy Pelosi, then Speaker of the House, touted Gruber’s work with Obamacare. Which begs the question, does Pelosi need to pass Gruber in order to find out who he is?
Is anyone capable of telling the truth in the Democrat party?
But wait Nancy, there is VIDEO of you to commenting on Gruber’s work. Note to Nancy, when one is the architect of Obamacare and is paid nearly $400,000 as a consultant, they did write the bill. In the wake of Gruber-gate, Democrats are proving Jonathon Gruber correct that they think that Americans are stupid. Pelosi would give such a ridiculous, flipped remark that she does not know who he is when she obviously did. It gets better America, Pelosi’s office came back to correct her misspeak by saying … the minority leader meant that she didn’t know Gruber personally. Too bad that is not what she said, Pelosi said, “She said she doesn’t ‘know who he is,’ not that she’s never heard of him. But what else would you expect from Democrats who think you are stupid.
Q: As you know, the Republicans released their health- care bill this week. And I wanted to get your comment on the bill, and specifically on the CBO analysis that it would cost significantly less than the Democratic plan and that it would lower premiums.
PELOSI: Let me just say this. Anything you need to know about the difference between the Democratic bill and the Republican bill is that the Republicans do not end the health insurance companies’ discrimination against people with preexisting conditions. They let that stand. That’s scandalous, the fact that it exists. I don’t understand why they have not heard the American people, who have said preexisting conditions should not be a source of discrimination.
And secondly, the Republican plan ensures about 3 million more people than now, and ours does 36 million people. So that’s a very big difference in that.
We’re not finished getting all of our reports back from CBO, but we’ll have a side by side to compare. But our bill brings down rates. I don’t know if you have seen Jonathan Gruber of MIT’s analysis of what the comparison is to the status quo versus what will happen in our bill for those who seek insurance within the exchange. And our bill takes down those costs, even some now, and much less preventing the upward spiral.
So again, we’re confident about what we set out to do in the bill: middle class affordability, security for our seniors, and accountability to our children.
Health Insurance Reform Mythbuster – ‘Health Reform And Insurance Premiums’
Opponents of health insurance reform continue to spread myths about the recently-passed Affordable Health Care for America Act. For example, they are claiming that health reform would increase premiums for most of America’s families. But the facts continue to knock these myths down—including a brand-new report from the independent Congressional Budget Office.
MYTH: The House health insurance reform bill would result in higher premiums.
FACT: An analysis of the House bill by noted MIT health care economist Jonathan Gruber concludes that the bill would result in lower premiums than under current law for the millions of Americans using the newly-established Health Insurance Exchange – including those who are not receiving affordability credits to help them purchase coverage. (The Health Insurance Exchange is for those without access to affordable employer-sponsored coverage.) As Gruber states: “the premiums that individuals will face in the new exchanges established by this legislation are … considerably lower than what they would face in the non-group insurance market [under current law], due to the market reforms put in place by the House plan, the mandate on individuals to participate regardless of health, and the market economies of new exchanges.”
- The Gruber analysis shows that, on the Exchange, a family at 425 percent of poverty (whose income of $93,710 means that they would receive no affordability credits) would see their premiums reduced by $1,260 or 12 percent compared to current law. Similarly, the Gruber analysis shows that, on the Exchange, an individual at 425 percent of poverty (whose income of $46,030 means that they would receive no affordability credits) would see their premiums reduced by $470 or 12 percent.
- The annual savings are much larger for lower income populations that receive affordability credits. Under the House bill, when the bill’s affordability credits are taken into account, a family at 275% of poverty (income of $60,640) would save $5,030, or 47 percent in premiums compared to current law and a family at 175 percent of poverty (income of $38,590) would save $9,050 or 84 percent in premiums compared to current law.
- Gruber also points out that, even as individuals and families on the Exchange are paying less, they will be getting more:
- The coverage those on the Exchange get under the House plan would be better than today’s typical coverage in the non-group market.
- For example, it would protect individuals and families from high out-of-pocket costs.
- That’s in addition to other consumer protections in the bill – like ending discrimination based on pre-existing conditions and guaranteeing that your coverage won’t be dropped or watered down when you get sick or need it most.
STRIKE THREE for Obamacare Architect Jonathan Gruber … VIDEO of Third Time Gruber References ‘Exploitation of American “Stupid” voter’
THE THIRD TIME IS USUALLY THE CHARM, BUT NOT FOR JONATHAN GRUBER … STRIKE 3 IN OFF THE CUFF COMMENTS!!!
Jonathan Gruber, one of the main architects of Obamacare apologized the other day for his remarks, calling American voters stupid and blamed it on an off the cuff comment that he should not have made. Who really believes that? Gruber was sorry he got caught. However, Gruber was not caught one, but been caught a second time making the same off the cuff remarks. Oh wait imagine this, Gruber has been caught a third time on VIDEO making remarks about the exploitation of the American voters because they are not intelligent enough to understand and can be easily fooled.
More from RCP with a VIDEO of Gruber trying to say that the ends justify the means.
Honors Colloquium 2012 at University of Rhode Island – Jonathan Gruber
The money lines are at about the 28:00 mark of video
A third video has surfaced of Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber bragging about pulling the wool over the eyes of the American public in order to help implement Obamacare.
“It’s a very clever, you know, basic exploitation of the lack of economic understanding of the American voter,” Gruber, an economist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, said during a speech at the University of Rhode Island in November 2012.
He was discussing what is known as the Cadillac tax and how it came into being.
In an effort to add a cost-control measure to Obamacare, former Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, who Gruber called a “hero,” successfully pushed through a 40 percent excise tax on insurance companies for plans that cost more than $10,200 for individuals and $27,000 for families.
Charles Krauthammer Shreds Obamacare Architech Liar Jonathan Gruber: “We’re Hearing the True Voice of Liberal Arrogance”
Charles Krauthammer tears Obamacare Jonathan Gruber, Obama, Democrats and liberals a new one. The cat is out of the bag on Obamacare and the Americans have now heard it from the horses mouth that they were lied to and deceived. Krauthammer went on to say that this is what liberals believe, the American voters are too stupid to know what is good for them, so they need to be lied to be led to the promise land.
America, makes you wonder what else Obama has lied to you about, doesn’t it?
VIDEO – The O’Reilly Factor
This is exactly what conservatives have been saying for four years, what we’re hearing now is the true voice of liberal arrogance. They believe this. They believe that the voters are stupid, as he said, and they believe that they know the right way, they have to lead the masses to the Promised Land, and they can only do it by deception. And that’s what he said openly: ‘We wanted to get the bill, we didn’t care about how we did it, so we lied about everything. We lied about if you can keep the plan, knowing that you can’t keep your plan. We lied about the fact this would be a transfer of wealth, a massive transfer of wealth.’ Because, as Gruber said, had they known that, it would never have passed. They lied about every aspect of this, and I think that is what has been charged all along.
And it is a scandal of the media that this has to be discovered in the sixth year of the presidency rather than talked about at the time, when it was obvious they were lying about all this. The idea of it being a transfer of wealth was known from the beginning. But they got away with it.
Jonathon Gruber Backtracks on His “Americans are Stupid” Comments … But He Has Said it On More Than One Occasion
MSNBC still carrying the water for Barack Obama and Obamacare …
Suddenly MIT professor Jonathan Gruber and the architect of Obamacare is in full spin and CYA mode as he backtracks from his comments that were just made public to all. Gruber stated that Obamacare was a lie, a fraud and the American people were purposely deceived in order to pass the law. Gruber also called the American people stupid. Hmm, isn’t this what Conservatives had said for years? Now Gruber is saying his comments were inappropriate. There is just one problem,Gruber made last these American voter are “stupid” remarks on more than one occasion. Watch the video from The Kelly Files via The Blaze, link HERE, to video of more remarks made by Gruber and Megyn Kelly’s less than willingness to believe him. It begins at the 2:00 mark of the video that Gruber has made this sane remark on more than one occasion. Off the cuff, eh?
Sorry, but he hardly to be seems to be speaking off the cuff. Jonathan Gruber is a very well-spoken and intelligent man. He is also a liberal who has a low opinion of the masses and would do anything to deceive then in order to get Obamacare passed. Gruber regrets making the America voters are stupid comments. Now, he regrets having it be made public. What, is Jonathan Gruber blaming his remarks on a spontaneous thought in his head, when he says he was speaking off the cuff? C’MON MAN!!!
Interestingly enough, he would not appear on FOX News to get a grilling and not just a softball interview on MSLSD.
This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If [Congressional Budget Office] scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. Okay, so it’s written to do that. In terms of risk-rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in -– you made explicit that healthy people pay in and sick people get money — it would not have passed… Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter, or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical for the thing to pass. And it’s the second-best argument. Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not.
Obamacare Architect Jonathan Gruber Brags About Lying to the American People … “Call It the Stupidity of the American People”
OBAMACARE FRAUD … FROM THE LIAR IN CHIEF:
Finally we get the creators of Obamacare to call it for what it really is, one big lie and fraud … “Call it the stupidity of the American voter”. For those with any common sense have known from the outset that Obamacare was a sham and a fraud. But for many Americans, as Nancy Pelosi stated in the past, “we have to pass the bill to find out what is in it”. NO WE DIDN’T. Obama, his minions and Democrats purposely wrote this law with a lack of transparency to the American people so that it would pass. Wasn’t this Obama presidency supposed to be the most transparent ever? Yeah America, and I have a bridge to sell you is Brooklyn too.
“You can’t do it political, you just literally cannot do it. Transparent financing and also transparent spending. I mean, this bill was written in a tortured way to make sure CBO did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes the bill dies. Okay? So it’s written to do that. In terms of risk rated subsidies, if you had a law which said that healthy people are going to pay in, you made explicit healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed. Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really really critical to get for the thing to pass. Look, I wish Mark was right that we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not.”
Imagine that, it was a premeditated Obama lie when he said, “If You Like Your Health Care Plan, You Can Keep It”.
From Town Hall.com, brings up a few points …
- Notice how lying to the American people is completely justified by Obama administration standards so long as the ends justify the means. Gruber would “rather have this law than not,” and therefore purposely lying about what the law actually is in order to get it passed is completely acceptable. regardless of the negative effects it has on the lives of Americans.
- Lack of transparency might be a huge political advantage in the short term, but long term there are consequences from voters, which is exactly what we saw last week during the Democrat blood bath at every level of government across the country.
- Insulting Americans as stupid and deceiving them is a really good way to lose your power on Capitol Hill, which is again exactly what we saw last week in the 2014 midterms. Twenty-eight Senators who voted for Obamacare are now out of the Senate for one reason or another.
- Obamacare in its entirely was “sold” on lies. From the promise to keep your doctor to claims insurance rates would go down, not up — to hiding that the legislation was in fact a tax until of course it was necessary to argue it was a tax to save the legislation at the Supreme Court. Government bureaucrats promising an expansion of care knowing care under Obamacare would be limited, etc. Hell, even the official name for Obamacare, “The Affordable Care Act,” is a lie. Obamacare isn’t affordable.
- The process through which Obamacare was shoved through and down the throats of the American people happened as a result of Harry Reid changing Senate rules and without the support of voters. The legislation didn’t receive a single Republican vote in the House or the Senate. Also, remember this?
Posted November 11, 2014 by Scared Monkeys
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