How sad is it that five years after the disappearance and death of Natalee Holloway, there are some in Aruba that still place blame on Natalee Holloway’s family for the plight of Joran Van der Sloot. Makes me want to visit, NOT! Does any one wonder why people are still calling for a boycott of Aruba?
Vanderbilt – ’06
So how did the news papers in Aruba cover the story of not-so favored son Joran Van der Sloot and his latest exploits that have once again landed him in jail and being interrogated by law enforcement in the death of a girl? Because Aruba did not take the murder of Natalee Holloway seriously in 2005 and decide to prosecute her killer, Joran Van der Sloot was enabled to kill again. This time it was 21 year old Stephany Flores Ramírez in Peru. And Joran Van der Sloot was charged with extortion in the US.
Justice in South America is in ‘hot pursuit’ of the fugitive Joran van der Sloot, according to the media there. The Chilean police confirmed Joran had crossed the Peruvian border into Chili on Monday May 31st. Apparently there is a hunt down going on in the Chilean harbor city Arica. Roadblocks around the city are to prevent him from escaping.
According to the Telegraaf, Joran has confessed the murder of the 21-year old Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramírez. The newspaper reports that during a telephone conversation, he admitted to having stabbed the girl to death. That telephone conversation was supposedly held with a Dutch poker-friend. Rumors on him committing suicide were buzzing about yesterday. However, these are totally unfounded.
Thankfully, we find out this little tid bit of information that the Netherlands has no treaty with Peru that “when” Joran Van der Sloot is found guilty of murder that he will not be able to serve his time in his home country. Instead Joran will be spending time in a Peruvian prison.
For that matter, there is no extradition treaty between the Netherlands and Peru, says Özlem Canel, spokeswoman of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in the Netherlands. If Joran were to be arrested on Dutch territory due to an international wanted notice, it would be difficult to extradite him, she says. However, Ann Angela, spokeswoman of the OM on Aruba states that an extradition treaty obligates the person’s extradition. “But is could also occur on voluntary basis.” If Joran were to be arrested and ends up in the prison in Peru, there is no treaty with the Netherlands to let him serve his time in his home country.
The reaction in Aruba ran the spectrum of vile hatred of Joran to the sad and pathetic excuses and continued blame of Natalee’s family that we have come all to accustomed with Aruba. Anita van der Sloot, Joran’s mother was shocked. Why Anita, because you figured that all the enabling and covering up of the Natalee Holloway disappearance and death by the late Paulus Van der Sloot would have taught your psychopath son a lesson?
Joran’s mother, artist and teacher Anita van der Sloot was shocked by the reports regarding her son, says the Dutch lawyer of Bert de Rooij in the Dutch press. De Rooij, who represented Joran in the Netherlands, states that the arrest and the new imputations have caused the family much sorrow. Meanwhile, others are very happy with the apprehension of ‘that psychopath’ as he is called on the streets. Reactions on the island on the murder and Joran’s arrest vary from ‘finally justice’ to appeals to castrate him, rape or even hang him.
Then there are those in Aruba that still blame Natalee’s family for the fact that Joran Van der Sloot has killed again. How sick are these people? That is correct, makes one really want to vacation in Aruba, doesn’t it?
For that matter, not everyone is convinced of Joran’s guilt. There are rumors circulating on internet that it’s ‘all very coincidental’. Everything is supposedly a conspiracy of the family of Natalee Holloway. For the time being, the government is not elaborating on whether Joran’s apprehension with all its worldwide publicity, has any consequences for the image of Aruba or the tourism.
Check out how Bondia covered the story of extortion. Then again, maybe readers only need to visit Dilma Arends‘ of Bondia Facebook and see what that crack investigative journalist has to say about Joran Van der Sloot and the extortion.
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Or maybe Julia Renfro’s Aruba Today where the front page is devoted to Richard Gere and a wedding on Eagle Beach, there’s some hard hitting journalism for you. You have to get to page 10 before there is any report of Joran Van der Sloot’s arrest.
Diario Aruba reported it as follows and looky here, front page.
June 4th, 2010 Daily Commentary
* Scared Monkeys will continue to follow this story as it develops.
Daily Commentary – Friday, June 4th, 2010 – Joran Van der Sloot Accused of Another Murder [2:15m]:| Download
Make sure to tune in Sunday night at 9 pm et for the Dana Pretzer Show on Scared Monkeys Radio when his guests … Jossy Mansur, Managing Editor of Diario Aruba, crime blogger Blink from Blink on Crime, Diane Fanning, Clint Van Zandt and Red from Scared Monkeys will be discussing the recent events with Joran Van der Sloot, prime suspect in the murder of Stephany Flores Ramirez in Peru and the implications to the Natalee Holloway case.
SM Exclusive: Jossy Mansur of Diario Aruba Comments on Joran Van der Sloot Murder Allegations & Suspect in Death of Stephany Flores Ramirez/Natalee Holloway
If the media wanted to get factual comments from Aruba media and not state run spin, they need not have contacted Aruba Today and Julia Renfro … what they should have done is contacted Jossy Mansur of Diario Aruba for the answers as Scared Monkeys did.
The following is Jossy Mansur in his own words regarding the bizarre similarities of the two murders that Joran Van der Sloot has been accused of, Natalee Holloway in Aruba and Stephany Flores Ramirez in Peru.
“The story came as a shock, not because it was unexpected, but because another girl became the victim of this very sick young man. His actions are clearly those of a psychopath. He should be taken off the streets so he cannot cause any more pain to other families, including his own. The thought that comes into my mind is that if the Prosecution in Aruba had pressed charges against him and he was taken to court and sent to jail, this other girl might still be alive. There are consequences to actions (or lack of them) that speak louder than any amount of words.
The coincidences are also mind-boggling: during a poker tournament, he meets a girl in a casino, like he did Natalee; the girl appears dead in a room that he rented in an upscale hotel; he is seen with the girl at the hotel by the personnel present; the girl appears dead two or three days later, on the 29th of May going into the 30th of May, exactly on the same date and possibly hour that Natalee was killed. And on the fifth anniversary of Natalee’s death! It is practically unbelievable!” (Jossy Mansur)
Scared Monkeys could not agree more with Jossy Mansur. Had the Aruban authorities, LE and prosecutors, done their job … Joran Van der Sloot would have been off the streets. Instead, they combined incompetance, cronyism and corruption to allow prime suspect Joran Van der Sloot to skate on murder charges in the Natalee Holloway case and enboldened a psyciopath to kill again.
A special shout out goes to Aruba for not stopping this predator in his tracks when they had the opportunity to, even when he confessed. But some how the Aruba prosecutor just thought it was lies … what do you think now?
A question to Paulus Van der Sloot to the grave … If there is a body, is there now a crime?
Aruba Lied and another Girl Died … Joran Van der Sloot Suspect in the Murder of Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez in Peru … Joran on the Run
It’s deja vu all over again … Joran Van der Sloot a suspect in another girl’s murder. Who thought that he would kill again … Scared Monkey’s did!
Hey Joran … PERU AIN’T NO ARUBA … YOU CAN COUNT ON THAT SPORTER! WAIT TIL YOU GET TO PRISON.
There will be no Paulus Van der Sloot to cover up this crime
So Aruba, Joe Tacopina, Julia Renfro, Van der Stratten and the rest that adamantly defended Joran Van der Sloot in the obvious evidence against the Dutch boy in the death of Natalee Holloway. However this time Papa Sloot will not be able to clean up his “sporter” son’s mess. To all those who defended Joran Van der Sloot … think you do not have more blood on your hands?
Joran Van der Sloot, yes the same Joran Van der Sloot suspected of murdering Natalee Holloway in Aruba five years ago, is now suspected in the murder of 21 year old Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez in Lima, Peru. The 22 year old Dutch sporter is now the main suspect in the murder and is the focal point of a man hunt in South America.
Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez, 21, was found at the Miraflores Hotel Tac in Lima, Peru on Sunday in room registered to van der Sloot, who was arrested and released in connection with the disappearance of Holloway , an 18-year-old American student who went missing in Aruba five years ago this week.
How is it possible that Joran Van der Sloot once again finds himself in the middle of a murder investigation nearly five years to the day. Many of the news accounts of the murder as Stephany Flores Ramirez sound hauntingly familiar to that of the disappearance and death of Natalee Holloway in Aruba. Casinos, poker, date run drugs and a murder, oh my … Stephany’s father stated that when his daughter’s vehicle was found, there were pills found inside.
Joran Van der Sloot was in Peru attending a poker tournament in an exclusive section of Peru. Stephany Flores Ramirez left her friends at about 2:30 am and returned to the casino and met back up with Van der Sloot and was seen going back to Joran’s hotel room at 5:00 am. She was never seen again … sound familiar!!!
Guardia said the 22-year-old Dutchman, in Peru for a poker tournament, appears with the young woman in a video taken at a Lima casino early Sunday and the two were later seen entering the hotel by one of its employees.
The victim’s father, circus empresario and former race car driver Ricardo Flores, says his daughter dropped off some girlfriends at 2:35 a.m. then apparently returned to the casino. She and van der Sloot were seen entering the hotel room about 5 a.m., said Guardia, and the Dutchman departed alone about four hours later.
Joran Van der Sloot is reported as being the last person to be seen with Stephany Flores Ramirez, as he was Natalee Holloway. However, this time there is no Papa Sloot to bail is behind out of hot water. Unlike in the case of Natalee Holloway where Joran, Paulus, the Kalpoe’s et all had time to clean the situation where “some thing bad happened” this time we are witness to what occurs where there are no adults to sanitize a murder.
Van der Sloot left Peru on Monday by land, Guardia said, his exit registered at the Santa Rosa border crossing. He had been staying at the hotel since May 14, having entered on a flight from Colombia, the police general added.
The victim’s father is a 48-year-old former president of the Peruvian Automobile Club who won the “Caminos del Inca” rally in 1991 and brings circuses and foreign entertainers to Peru. He ran for vice president in 2001 and for president five years later on fringe tickets.
Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant for van der Sloot, Dutch Foreign Ministry spokesman Bengt van Loosdrecht told The Associated Press in The Netherlands.
Jossy Mansur, Managing Editor of Diario in Aruba has posted on the Joran Van der Sloot bizarre story as well.
The murder and man hunt in South America for Joran Van der Sloot comes nearly five years to the date of the disappearance and death of Natalee Holloway. Over the weekend Beth Holloway, Natalee’s mom, discussed her daughter’s death and commemorated his legacy with the Natalee Holloway Resource Center.
Joran Van der Sloot’s luck just ran out as there is no more complicit Aruba to help cover up his crimes. Joran’s word as he knows it is over. It appears that Joran Van der Sloot has done the reverse Aruba murder this time. He had the mistake of killing the daughter of a prominent father in Peru. Kind of a role reversal of the murder Joran was linked to in Aruba where his father Paulus was the prominent and influential one.
Make no mistake about it … Joran Van der Sloot has met his Waterloo.
So is this just another case of a misunderstood Joran Van der Sloot?
Just like innocent people lie as Joran Van der Sloot did in the case of the disappearance and death of Natalee Holloway in Aruba, so do innocent people flee the country where they are wanted for questioning in the stabbing death of a 21 year old girl found in the room registered to who else, Joran Van der Sloot. Below is a translated article (from Scared Monkeys.net forum) describing the fleeing from justice of Joran Van der Sloot.
Ica (Peru.com) .- Ica Three drivers moved to Arica revealed that the Dutchman Joran van der Sloot, who is accused of killing the young Stephany Flores (21), daughter of racer Ricardo Flores Chipoco, in a hotel in Miraflores .
This was reported to RPP Noticias Carlos Alberto Uribe, who said that the foreigner asked to take Nazca, where he hired two drivers to take him to Chile.
“De Nazca to Tacna paid 500 billion suns and Tacna to Arica gave us 280 suns. We learned who he was by the news,” the driver told the radio station.
It should be noted that Van der Sloot smoked constantly and will only sleep on the trip but all I got to tell was that he lived in Aruba.
“I was in shorts and white sneakers,” said one of the Aparcana Pisconte, those employed by the Dutchman to take you to Arica.
It emerged that Van der Sloot planned to travel to Cuzco on Sunday, but argued that he “spent the bus” and mysteriously changed its route south of the continent.
For more, updates and to provide your opinion go to Scared Monkeys.net Forum: Natalee Holloway.
Five Year ago …
Natalee Holloway went missing on May 30, 2005 when she was last seen leaving Carlos n’ Charlies on Aruba with Joran Van der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe and Sataish Kalpoe. Our first post covering the disappearance of the Mountain Brook, Alabama high school graduate Natalee Holloway was entitled, “This Can’t be Good for Tourism, Where is Natalee Holloway?” No truer words were ever spoken and the affects of a crime like the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in turn created what can only be one of the most incompetant and corrupt cover ups ever witnessed.
For an Island paradise that prides itself on sandy beaches and a constant trade wind, the last thing they would want is bad publicity of an unsafe island. However, An Alabama high school student, Natalee Holloway, disappeared during her graduation trip to Aruba.
For month after month and year after year the family, friends and millions of people who grew to know Natalee Holloway as their own sister, daughter, cousin or niece saw the injustice of what was occurring in Aruba. So much that today, the last three people ever to be seen with Natalee Holloway walk free. Who knew, actually some did, that Natalee Holloway’s family would have to battle law enforcement, the tourism bureau and certain Aruban media in the quest to find Natalee? Justice was replaced by cronyism as Natalee’s family battled obstacles every inch of the way. However, just as the three suspects were arrested, they would later be set free.
The roller-coaster ride of the search and investigation to find Natalee was like some thing one would read in a fiction novel. So much injustice that even when the prime suspect in Natalee’s disappearance confessed to the crime, not once but twice … Joran Van der Sloot still is allowed to walk a free man and charged with no crime. In Aruba, if you lie enough … you are considered not a suspect.
Trailer for the Natalee Holloway movie,
For five years Scared Monkeys has backed, supported, searched and done every thing we could for Beth Holloway and the family in order to help provide answers and justice for Natalee. There have been so many calls and discussions with Beth to provide what ever help we could. So many efforts behind the scenes to aid in what ever way possible to help in what ever way possible to provide … JUSTICE FOR NATALEE.
Much more can be read, reviewed at Scared Monkeys.net: Natalee Holloway.
Five years later, Beth Holloway fights on for missing persons. On a personal note, Beth is one of the strongest and most determined individuals I have ever met. However, there are those other moments when she is nothing more than a mere mom who is desperately trying to find her beloved daughter. It is those moments that your heart breaks for her. However, Beth remains resolute in her quest to help the missing and their families. God Bless you Beth.
Her mother, Beth Holloway, who has worked tirelessly to keep attention on her daughter’s disappearance, will be in Washington in June to announce the opening of the Natalee Holloway Resource Center, a new nonprofit to assist families searching for missing relatives.
The center will be based at the National Museum of Crime & Punishment on Seventh Street NW near Chinatown and the Verizon Center. The museum features Holloway’s disappearance in its “Cold Case” exhibit.
The nonprofit plans to serve as a crisis clearinghouse for families of missing persons in the United States and abroad, according to a statement from the museum. The nonprofit plans to give family members a plan, contact information, a media liaison and other services. It also will offer guidelines for children and adults to travel safely, including creating a national network of college volunteers who will promote the group’s safe travel program to high school and college students.
Natalee Holloway Center to Open in D.C.: Crime Prevention, Help Families of Missing, Among the Goals.
Five years later and Beth Holloway is still looking for answers and justice for Natalee. She is also providing resources for other families that might suffer the same terrible situation of finding one of their loved ones a the victims of a missing persons.
God Bless Beth, and we are always behind you.