Fox News Poll: 76% of Voters Think the IRS Deliberately Destroyed Lois Lerner Emails … Just 12% Believe It Was an Accident

DAMNING OBAMA/IRS POLLING …

According to the most recent FOX News poll, an amazing 76% of voters believe that the Internal Revenue Service deliberately and purposely destroyed Lois Lerner’s emails. Only 12% believe in the Tooth Fairy and think it was an accident. Another 12% are unsure and are too bust watching “Here Cones Honey Boo Boo”. The 76% of those who believe the IRS acted deliberately its includes 74% of Independents and an incredible 63% of Democrats. What does this mean? As much as the White House has called IRS-gate a phony scandal and a GOP conspiracy, the American people are not buying it. “We the People” think that it was deliberate and a crime was committed and there was a purposeful destruction of property.

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Full poll can be read HERE.

PHONY CONSPIRACY, EH?

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The consensus is: it’s no accident. More than three-quarters of voters — 76 percent — think the emails missing from the account of Lois Lerner, the ex-IRS official at the center of the scandal over targeting of conservative groups, were deliberately destroyed.
That suspicion is shared across party lines, albeit to varying degrees. An overwhelming 90 percent of Republicans think the emails were intentionally destroyed, as do 74 percent of independents and 63 percent of Democrats.

Furthermore, Democrats and Barack Obama have tried their best, along with the lap dog liberal media to make this scandal go away. Partisan Democrats have called the investigation, silly, political and a waste of time. The liberal MSM has pretty much refused to cover the story. However, according to the FOX News poll, 74% think that Congress should continue to investigate the IRS in their targeting of conservative and Tea Party non-profit groups. This includes 65% of Independents and 66% of Democrats.

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This latest wrinkle in the IRS targeting of certain groups, including hundreds with “Tea Party” in their name, has increased voter interest in Congress investigating the matter.

Some 74 percent of voters now say lawmakers should investigate the IRS “until someone is held accountable,” up from 67 percent who felt that way in April. That includes 66 percent of Democrats.

Finally, a resounding majority do not believe Barack Obama when he says that he learned about such scandals like IRS-gate, the VA scandal, Fast & Furious and the plethora of other scandals when the president says he learned about it from the media. What does this tell us? The American people think Obama is a liar.

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Archivist of the U.S. David Ferriero Testifies to the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee on Lois Lerner Lost Emails … ” IRS Didn’t Follow the Law “

IMAGINE THAT, THE OBAMA IRS BROKE THE LAW …

On Tuesday, David Ferriero, the top United States archivist of federal records, told the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee that the IRS broke the law when it failed to report loss of emails. David S. Ferriero, the chief archivist at the National Archives said, “In accordance with the Federal Records Act, when an agency becomes aware of an incident of unauthorized destruction, they must report the incident to us.” Ferriero told the House Oversight Committee that federal agencies are supposed to report whenever their records are destroyed or even accidentally deleted; however, he stated that nobody told the National Archives after emails from IRS official Lois Lerner vanished after a computer failure in 2011. Imagine that? How about the six others whose computers miraculously crashed as well? Were they reported?

The top U.S. official in charge of archiving federal records testified Tuesday that the IRS ran afoul of the law by neglecting to tell his office that a trove of emails from the woman at the center of the targeting scandal disappeared after an apparent hard drive crash.

Archivist of the U.S. David Ferriero, speaking before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, made clear that federal agencies are supposed to report whenever their records are destroyed or even accidentally deleted. But he said that after emails from embattled IRS official Lois Lerner vanished after a computer failure in 2011, nobody told the National Archives.

“They did not follow the law,” Ferriero said.

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) Questions IRS Commissioner John Koskinen On Lois Lerner Missing Emails … IRS Commissioner Double Talk, “I Did Not Say We Would Provide You Emails that Disappeared”

More amazing smuggery from  IRS Commissioner John Koskinen …

Last night during the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing IRS Commissioner John Koskinen made a comment of such parsing of words that even Slick Willie, former President Bill Clinton would have been proud of. The contentious Q&A between Koskinen told Issa ended as follows:

IRS Commissioner Koskinen: All the emails we have will be provided. I did not say that I would provide emails that disappeared. If you have  have a magically way for me to do that I’d be happy to know about it. I said I would provide all the emails, we are providing all the emails. The fact that three years ago, some of them not all of them, were not available. I never said I would provide you emails we didn’t have  and in fact we are going to provide you 24000 emails …

Rep. Darrell Issa: My time has expired and I’ve lost my patience with you.

Unbelievable Exhange Between IRS Commissioner John Koskinen & Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH): IRS Commissioner … “I Can’t Remember” Who Told Me Lois Lerner’s Emails Were Lost

Stunning, simply stunning!!!

Last night during his testimony before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, IRS Chief John Koskinen said he could not remember who told him that Lois Lerner’s emails were lost. Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) grilled Koskinen during his testimony as to when and who told him that the emails were lost. The IRS Commissioner actually blamed tax season as to the reason why he could not remember. UNREAL. Rep. Jordan whent on to ask the IRS Commissioner, ‘At what point does it become obstruction of justice?’ Watch the amazing exchange below.

Rep. Jim Jordan: The chairman asked you, “Who told you this information?” You can’t remember?

IRS Chief John Koskinen: No, I… do not remember.

Jordan: Did someone tell you in person? Did they send you an email?

Koskinen: I do not get emails on these subjects so I’m sure it was someone in person.

Jordan: This has been a major news story for the past 13 months and you don’t remember who came up to you and said, ‘Hey boss, we lost Lois Lerner’s emails”? You don’t remember anything about that situation?

Koskinen: I remember being told in April … I do not recall who told me.

Rep. Jim Jordan grills IRS commissioner on lost Lois Lerner emails:

Republicans on a House of Representatives committee  took Internal Revenue Commissioner John Koskinen to task on Monday night for his agency’s loss of emails from an IRS official involved in scrutinizing tax exemption requests from political groups.

Champaign County Republican Rep. Jim Jordan – who chairs a House Oversight and Government Reform subcommittee – compared the loss of Lois Lerner’s emails to evidence hiding efforts in a “third-rate B actor crime drama.”

“This would be laughable if it wasn’t so serious,” said Jordan, who asked Koskinen to seek a special prosecutor’s investigation of whether the IRS improperly scrutinized tax-exemption requests from conservative groups.

Jordan questioned whether Koskinen obstructed justice by waiting several weeks to tell Congress about the lost emails rather than revealing it when he first learned of it in April. Koskinen said IRS tried to recover all the emails it could from Lerner’s crashed hard drive, but couldn’t get them all.

Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) Shreds IRS Commissioner John Koskinen … “You Don’t Have Any Idea If There was Any Criminal Misconduct or Not”

IT’S ABOUT TIME SOME ONE LET THE IRS HAVE IT …

Last night IRS Commissioner John Koskinen testified again before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee about the loss of former IRS official Lois Lerner’s emails. US  Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) simply shredded IRS Commissioner Koskinen during the hearing and handed Koskinen his lunch, or in this case because of the time of day, his dinner. Gowdy provided Koskinen a lesson in Criminal Law 101. The Congressman methodically and astutely lit into the IRS Commissioner as he destroyed Koskinen’s comment that “there was no evidence of any criminal misconduct.” Koskinen was forced to say that there was any wrong doing.

Spoliation of evidence is when a party fails to preserve evidence that there is a negative inference that the jury can draw from their failure to preserve the evidence. You with me? If you destroy documents that the jury could infer those documents weren’t going to be good for you. If you fail to keep documents a jury could infer that these documents were not going to be good for you. [...] When a party has a duty to preserve the evidence or records and they fail to do so, there is a negative inference that is drawn from their failure to preserve the evidence.”

What happened to John Koskinen, the “turn around” specialist brought in to fix the IRS? At the 4:20 mark of the video below, IRS Commissioner John Koskinen and major Democrat donor provided Demcorat talking points that the GOP is obsessed with the White House. He would also later blame lack of IRS funding for the ills of the IRS.   Trey Gowdy would go on to debunked Koskinen’s words. What is most telling in this exchange is that the IRS Commissioner, who was not a part of the corruption and the IRS targeting of Conservative non-profit groups, is acting in a political manner regurgitating Democrat talking points. Isn’t this what the IRS was originally accused of … acting as a political arm of the Democrats and the Obama White House? Powerline expands on this point as they state, “IRS Commissioner John Koskinen is known as a “turnaround specialist” who helped rescue failed or failing enterprises. Unfortunately, it is clear from Koskinen’s strident testimony before Congress that he has no intention of turning the IRS around.”

The IRS Cancalled the Contract with Email-Storage Firm Sonasoft Weeks After Lerner’s Computer Hard Drive Crash

Another coincidence We the People are supposed to believe courtesy of the IRS …

If it was not bad enough that the computer hard drive crashed of former IRS employee Lois Lerner weeks after Congress made inquiries into IRS-gate, or that her hard drive was deemed irreparable and it was destroyed, now we learn the IRS cancelled its longtime relationship with Sonasoft, an email-storage contractor, just weeks after ex-IRS official Lois Lerner’s computer crashed and shortly before other IRS officials’ computers allegedly crashed.Imagine that, cancelling the contract with the email archiving company when it is no longer a good thing to save emails.

Really? If one was to present this transcript to Hollywood for a movie it would be rejected as being too unbelievable.

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The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) cancelled its longtime relationship with an email-storage contractor just weeks after ex-IRS official Lois Lerner’s computer crashed and shortly before other IRS officials’ computers allegedly crashed.

The IRS signed a contract with Sonasoft, an email-archiving company based in San Jose, California, each year from 2005 to 2010. The company, which partners with Microsoft and counts The New York Times among its clients, claims in its company slogans that it provides “Email Archiving Done Right” and “Point-Click Recovery.” Sonasoft in 2009 tweeted, “If the IRS uses Sonasoft products to backup their servers why wouldn’t you choose them to protect your servers?”

Sonasoft was providing “automatic data processing” services for the IRS throughout the January 2009 to April 2011 period in which Lerner sent her missing emails.

Sorry, but this is too much to even attempt to believe. As stated at The Jawa Report, “the IRS scandal alone should be enough to bring down any administration (and would if this were a Republican administration.)”. The daily discoveries of what the IRS did are not mere coincidences, but instead a deliberate and concerted effort to eliminate evidence. It is a sad state of affairs in the United States when we have a government that is unaccountable to the People, can operate in such a manner that is above the law and a media that could care less to get to the bottom of the story because of the White House currently being occupied by a Democrat.

Where is Woodward and Bernstein?

IRS Commissioner John Koskinen Does Not Think an Apology is Owed to Congress or We the People

The height of contempt and arrogance … IRS Commissioner John Koskinen does not think that an apology is owed for the lost Lois Lerner emails and the stonewalling by the IRS.  Koskinen said he didn’t inform Congress immediately because he wanted to find out the full scope of the situation before reporting to them. But some how the Treasury Department and White House were notified in advance of Congress and the American people.

Internal Revenue Service Commissioner John Koskinen said Friday that he does not owe an apology for computer crashes that resulted in the loss of emails connected to an ongoing probe.

“I don’t think an apology is owed,” Koskinen said during a tense hearing with lawmakers on Capitol Hill. “Not a single email has been lost since the start of this investigation.”

Last week, the IRS acknowledged that the computer of Lois Lerner, the IRS employee at the center of the probe, experienced a hard drive crash in 2011, making some of her emails inaccessible for the investigation. Koskinen said the IRS is taking measures to restore the emails and noted that the loss took place before the investigation began.

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) says during Friday’s House Ways and Means Committee hearing on the IRS scandal of targeting conservative non-profit organizations and the convenient IRS losing of Lois Lerners’s emails … “This is unbelievable. The apology that ought to be given is to the American tax payer, not to a government agency that is abusing it’s power.

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Audiance Gasps at House Ways and Means Committee Hearing When IRS Commissioner John Koskinen Admits Lois Lerner’s Missing Hard Drive Was Recycled & Destroyed

House Committee on Ways and Means Chairman Dave Camp  said in his opening statement, “We are missing a huge piece of the puzzle. How convenient for the IRS and the administration.”

During Friday’s House Ways and Means Committee hearing on the IRS conservative targeting scandal, audible gasps could be heard in the room from the audience as IRS Commissioner John Koskinen told Congress that Lois Lerner’s hard drive was recycled and destroyed. Rep. Dave Camp (R-MI), House Ways and Means Committee Chair questioned IRS Commissioner Koskinen on the condition and location of Lois Lerner’s hard drive. When asked by Camp whether the IRS Commissioner knew where Lerner’s hard drive was Koskinen responded, “after it was determined that it was dysfunctional and that with experts no emails could be retrieved was recycled and destroyed.” When further pressed as to where the hard drive was Koskinen responded, “I have no idea what the recycler does with it. This was three years ago.”

Imagine saying the same to an IRS agent during an audit, I have no idea where the data was, that was 7 years ago.

Transcript of discussion between US Representative and House Ways and Means Committee Chair Dave Camp (R-MI):

Rep. Camp: Do you know where the actual hard drive is that crashed in 2011?

IRS Commissioner Koskinen: I am advised that the actual hard drive after it was determined that it was dysfunctional and that with experts no emails could be retrieved was recycled and destroyed in the normal process.”

GASPS from the audiance

Rep. Camp: So was it physically destroyed?

IRS Commissioner Koskinen: That is my understanding.

Rep. Camp: So was it melted down do you know?

IRS Commissioner Koskinen: I have no idea what the recycler does with it. This was three years ago.

Rep. Paul Ryan Says to Arrogant IRS Commissioner John Koskinen … “I DON’T BELIEVE YOU!”

ONCE AGAIN THE IRS SHOWS CONTEMPT FOR WE THE PEOPLE AND DISPLAY THEY THINK THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW …

US Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) ripped into IRS Commissioner John Koskinen during yesterday’s Ways and Means Committee Hearing on the investigation of the IRS targeting conservative non-profit groups and more specifically, the sudden revelation that former IRS head Lois Lerner’s emails disappeared due to a convenient hard drive crash. Ryan said to the arrogant and defiant  IRS Commissioner, “I don’t Believe You”.

It’s about time some one put the IRS in its place and defended the American people against this rogue agency.

“You are the Internal Revenue Service. You can reach into the lives of hardworking tax payers and with a phone call, an email or letter you can turn their lives upside down. You ask tax payers to hang on to 7 years of their person tax information in case they are ever audited and you cant keep 6 months worth of employee emails? And now that we are seeing this investigation you don’t have the emails, hard drives crashed. You learned about this months ago and you just told us and we had to ask you on Monday. This is not being forthcoming, this is being misleading again. This is a pattern of abuse, a pattern that does not give us any confidence that this agency is being impartial. I don’t believe you.”

VIDEO Hat Tip: The Gateway Pundit

The Politico:

A defiant IRS Commissioner on Friday refused to apologize for the loss of ex-IRS official Lois Lerner’s emails, and said the agency produced what they could, at a combative hearing marked by accusations by Republicans of IRS deceit.

The meeting comes a week after the agency revealed that two years worth of emails to and from Lerner, the ex-official at the center of the tea party targeting controversy, were lost when her hard drive crashed in 2011.

“I don’t think an apology is owed,” chief John Koskinen told Ways and Means Chairman Dave Camp after the Republican lawmaker asked for one at the first hearing on the email issue.

But of course the IRS claims they did not conceal anything and did not mislead the committee yet, as discussed at Hot Air, the White House notified of missing IRS e-mail 6 weeks before Congress?

Remember when IRS Commissioner John Koskinen testified before the House Oversight and Government Reform on March 26, 2014 and told Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) during the hearing that former IRS employee Lois Lerner’s emails were archived and not just necessarily in her sent box in Outlook. Koskinen said it would take a long time even as he argued whether he would would would not comply with the House subpoena.

Chaffetz asks IRS Commissioner: “Are you going to comply with subpoena?”

Watergate IRS-gate is a long way from over and the rate this is going with the Obama administration and their cronies attempting to stonewall and have the American people believe the improbable and the impossible, it is going to come to a head right around the 2016 elections.

#YOU LIE!!! Obama Administration’s Claim that Lois Lerner’s Emails Were Lost in Computer Crash, What a Crock of $hit

LIARS … WHY DON’T YOU JUST SAY THE DOG ATE HERE HOME WORK EMAILS!!!

The IRS stated on Friday that they lost and cannot locate many of Lois Lerner’s emails prior to 2011 because her computer crashed that year. Image that, what a coincidence. House Oversight Committee chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) suggesting the Obama administration is being dishonest by saying these emails are lost stating, “Isn’t it convenient for the Obama Administration that the IRS now says it has suddenly realized it lost Lois Lerner’s emails requested by Congress and promised by Commissioner John Koskinen?” Ya think? Issa went on to comment,  “Do they really expect the American people to believe that, after having withheld these emails for a year, they’re just now realizing the most critical time period is missing?” WHAT A JOKE. Imagine telling the IRS that you lost the necessary paperwork in a computer crash that they are requiring, which is more plausible than an email.

So let’s understand this … the government & NSA has a right to look at your emails, but some how they can’t retain their own? Who honestly believes this bullshit?

Liar, Liar – The Castaways

Liar, liar, pants on fire
Your nose is longer than a telephone wire

Ask me, baby, why I’m sad
You’ve been out all night, know you’ve been bad
Don’t tell me different, know it’s a lie
Come kill me, honey, see how I cry

The Internal Revenue Service says it has lost a trove of emails to and from a central figure in the agency’s tea party controversy.

The IRS told congressional investigators Friday it cannot locate many of Lois Lerner’s emails prior to 2011 because her computer crashed that year. Lerner headed the IRS division that processed applications for tax-exempt status.

The IRS acknowledged last year that agents had improperly scrutinized applications for tax-exempt status by tea party and other conservative groups.

“The fact that I am just learning about this, over a year into the investigation, is completely unacceptable and now calls into question the credibility of the IRS’s response to congressional inquiries,” said Rep. Dave Camp, R-Mich., chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee. “There needs to be an immediate investigation and forensic audit by Department of Justice as well as the inspector general.”

The Ways and Means Committee is one of three congressional committees investigating the IRS over its handling of tea party applications from 2010 to 2012. The Justice Department and the IRS inspector general are also investigating.

House Oversight Committee chairman Darrell Issa, R-Calif., is suggesting the Obama administration is being dishonest by saying these emails are lost.

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I could not agree more with Powerline and their post, Obama Administration’s Claim that Lois Lerner’s Emails Are “Lost” Is Ludicrous. Actually, it is beyond ludicrous, it is an outright lie. Who honestly thinks that emails are kept on your hard drive? They are collected and saved on an email server that has a redundancy of backups. Do they really think we are that stupid? If Lois Lerner’s emails really do not exist, then some one would have had to gone to the email servers and the back up tapes and purposely deleted them. There is a thing in corporate America and government called “DRE”. That is short for “Disaster Recovery Exercises”. All do it to prepare for catastrophic events like fires, floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, etc to ensure that there is no data lost in case of a disaster and that business can get back up and running ASAP. I should know, I have participated in them for the past 4 years to ensure such efforts are effective. Guess what … emails are apart of that to check list.

The Obama administration’s claim that the IRS has “lost” two years of Lois Lerner’s emails is implausible to anyone who understands how email systems work. This is what the administration said:

The IRS told congressional investigators Friday it cannot locate many of Lois Lerner’s emails prior to 2011 because her computer crashed that year.

This statement, on its face, is silly. Emails are collected on email servers. Each user (e.g., Lois Lerner) has an account on an email server, where that person’s emails are collected. It is common for emails to be deleted from the user’s own desktop or laptop computer, but no one worries about that. When it is time to collect emails–something I do all the time in my law practice–you go to the email server and pull out the user’s entire account. A crash of the user’s computer is irrelevant and will not cause emails to be “lost.”

Further, emails are universally backed up in some other medium, often electronic tape, for long-term storage. Thus, even if an email server is destroyed, or all emails are deleted from a server after a specified length of time, the emails are still recoverable from back-up storage media.

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These people are nothing but liars. The IRS would destroy you if you ever came back and said, you did not have the data they are looking for because it is lost. Now that’s what they are claiming … BS!!! This is simply a coverup because it is obviously that there are damning emails that connect the IRS’s Lois Lerner to the Obama White House. If this is the way that government agencies like the IRS are going to conduct themselves and act in a political manner against Americans, no matter if they are on the right or the left, then they must be dismantled and be ended permanently … if a government agency is going to act this rogue, they need to be abolished.

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