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October 15, 2005

Dompig: “That is why we were kind of disappointed when the judge didn’t accept that. That is basically a felony in Aruba.” (Natalee Holloway)

Posted in: Aruba,Crime,Dave Holloway,Deepak Kalpoe,Gerold Dompig,Jamie Skeeters,Joran Van der Sloot,Missing Persons,Natalee Holloway

A must read for all in a Rita Cosby “Live & Direct’ interview with Gerold Dompig, Dave Holloway and Jamie Skeeters. A revealing interview from the man who made the Deepak Kalpoe tape (Jaime Skeeters) what may turn out to be a smoking gun in this investigation. The lead investigator, Gerold Dompig, where if this tape is authentic had some serious decisions to make on potential rearrests in the Natalee Holloway investigation and also Dave Holloway’s opinions on the recent events. Some very interesting comments from this interview: (Hat Tip: SMS)

Rita: Is it possible chief, if these tapes can be authenticated that we could even see search warrants? Maybe even arrests in a few weeks, if they are authentic?

Dompig: Absolutely! I talked to the prosecutor today as a matter of fact and we discussed that possibility.

Rita: Did any of these three ever admit to having sex with Natalee at any point chief?

Dompig: No, they did not. They keep denying it, they only went as far as to say that they fondled sexually, at least Joran did that. The others denied everything.

Rita: We have heard from the family chief that Joran stated that she was going in and out of consciousness, did you see that anywhere?

Dompig: Yes, that is definitely in the statements. That is why we were kind of disappointed when the judge didn’t accept that. That is basically a felony in Aruba.

In their first live television interview together joining me now is Gerold Dompig, Dave Holloway and Jamie Skeeters from the October 14, 2005 show.

Playing Deepaks tape

Rita: Dave, when you hear those comments that are verified in the tape, are you praying this is going to be the big break Dave?

Dave: Well, hopefully the police will be able to do something with it, Rita. I spoke to Jamie several days ago and he told me basically the full content of the tape. I am hopeful Gerold and his people will be able to analyze it and make a decision if it is valid.

Rita: Chief, walk us through the stages you need to do right now to verify the tape. How long do you think it is going to take?

Dompig: Well, basically I personally see three steps.
The first step will be to get the tapes as soon as possible so that we can take a look at them.
Secondly, once we are satisfied with what we see and hear to try and get the tapes verified for their authenticity.
Maybe the FBI can assist us with that, maybe we have to send them to Holland, maybe both.
Third, once these tapes are proven to be authentic which is very important for our court case. We definitely we will move ahead and I assure you that this will be a complete turn around in the case. As I said earlier, if these guys are guilty, I want them behind bars.


Rita: Is it possible chief, if these tapes can be authenticated that we could even see search warrants? Maybe even arrests in a few weeks, if they are authentic?

Dompig: Absolutely! I talked to the prosecutor today as a matter of fact and we discussed that possibility. She doesn’t exclude it, she did say to keep in mind that we will have to go to the judge again. I am sure that if we can determine the tapes are authentic then we have a strong case to make before a judge to get new warrants for searches and eventually rearrests.

Plays tape where Deepak says he has no friends, everything is empty.

Rita: Dave are you hoping that if the squeeze is on and if they are not such good friends like Deepak is saying maybe one will crack?

Dave: Well, I am hopeful that if the tape is authentic and the authorities in Aruba feel like they have something maybe we will get them back behind bars. As you recall we had all three behind bars prior to the hurricane we had. Then all of a sudden, hopes were dashed and all three were released. So maybe we will get some better hopes now.

Rita: Dave if you are confronted with this…if Deepak Kalpoe maybe has some information you have a big reward out there. Would you or someone in the family be willing to pay him some money to tell where Natalee is if he has that information.

Dave: That would be something we would have to discuss with Beth. I think that she is agreeable that if there is some information out there that can show Natalee’s whereabouts, the reward is payable.

Rita: Did any of these three ever admit to having sex with Natalee at any point chief?

Dompig: No, they did not. They keep denying it, they only went as far as to say that they fondled sexually, at least Joran did that. The others denied everything.

Rita: We have heard from the family chief that Joran stated that she was going in and out of consciousness, did you see that anywhere?

Dompig: Yes, that is definitely in the statements. That is why we were kind of disappointed when the judge didn’t accept that. That is basically a felony in Aruba.We think that what happened was the judge just didn’t buy it because Joran went back and forth with his statements. He withdrew two statements he had already given to us. Basically, none of his statements were really trustworthy.

Rita: But what you are saying chief is that Joran did say was that at some point, she was in and out of consciousness. You are saying that is a felony in Aruba, where did he say that happened. In the back seat of the car?

Dompig: In the back of the car he mentioned a couple of times that she passed out a couple of times. Those were his words. But, in a way that is someone who is drunk, not really aware of what is happening. That to us was very interesting and very important. We thought as investigators that we had at least that. Again, what we were faced with, and I think Dave also had that experience was at a certain point and time the judge just didn’t buy it.

Rita: Dave, is there a question you have for the deputy chief?

Dave: No, not at this moment. I just want to thank Gerold for being forward with all of his comments. I look forward to meeting him. It sounds like to me he has some good words, and if we put some action with it maybe we will get some results. I appreciate him coming on and getting this going in the right direction.

Rita: Let’s bring Jamie Skeeters in because there is an inconsistency and I am sure you are all wanting this. Jamie, did Deepak Kalpoe say to you at any point when you met with him whether it is on tape or not that he believes that Joran killed Natalee?

Jamie: Yes

Rita: He did, tell me how?

Jamie: I talked to him, part of it is on the tape, but the main conversation I had with him, I asked him pointblank: Did you kill Natalee? He said no
Did Satish kill Natalee? He said no
Did Joran kill Natalee? Well, it wasn’t me, wasn’t my brother, so what do you think? And he nodded and said yes and shrugged his shoulders. That is when I asked him would he do a polygraph.

Rita: And he refused to take that polygraph, right Jamie?

Jamie: No he didn’t, he said he would take a polygraph. He didn’t think his attorney wanted him to but he did say I will do a polygraph with you. He was talking like the following day or two from that conversation.

Rita: But then it never happened, right?

Jamie: He was arrested.

Rita: That is what I thought, the timing didn’t work. But you are telling me Jamie again he looked at you and said take a guess who did.
Not as a question of maybe but strongly saying Joran did.

Jamie: Yes, he didn’t say take a guess. He said it wasn’t me or my brother but who does that leave? And I said Joran? And he said yes and then shrugged his shoulders.

Rita: Dave, what do you make of this when you hear this?

Dave: Well, you know, I just really couldn’t comment at this time. We know that all three are involved. We have heard statements from Joran through the press and leaks that he pointed the finger at Joran. So, you really don’t know.

Rita: Jamie, is this on tape?

Jamie: The statement that was made there was before the taping began. But, there is something on the tape that I just saw myself the other day.I asked him did he kill her and he said I didn’t. I said VDS and he said Yeah. That is on tape

Rita: Chief, if that’s on tape, what do you have now?

Dompig: Well, Jamie told me that already in a phone conversation.I told him Jamie, I really need your help on this. We need to have the tape in Aruba as soon as possible.To Dave, I want to stress to hang in there with us. Believe me, we are going to stick with it and anything.I also want to thank him for all the emails he has sent to us. We really look at all of the tips and leads he sends to us basically on a daily basis.So he really works for or with us

Clip of Deepak on if he knows where the body is

Rita: Dave, if you could be in that questioning room. I believe that the chief is going to verify these tapes, I believe he is going to call them in for questioning, maybe even arrest them. Dave, what do you want to ask Deepak if you could be there with the chief in that room?

Dave: Well, I would just like to ask him to tell the truth and let us have closure in this case. Whatever he knows, I would like for him to tell the truth. Stop all this pointing fingers at someone else or whatever. Tell what you know and lets get on.

Rita: Dave, what is the most troubling thing tonight when you hear these questions?

Dave:Well, just a pack of lies, that is all we have heard all along.
Just pointing fingers and outright lying.I think Deepak might have come to his end with Jamie interviewing him.He wanted to get it over with and it sounds like to me that he wants to talk. He wants to tell the truth, hopefully.

Rita:
Do you think you are going to be able to have some leverage over him chief? What Jamie just said I think is a bombshell. If indeed on the tape it says yes, Joran killed her.
You have it on tape, what are you going to be able to do with Deepak now chief?

Dompig: Well again, I agree with Dave. I also feel that if these tapes are what they sound like that these boys are now feeling the urge to talk. Look at the interview Joran gave in Holland. He didn’t give such an interview in Aruba. So, finally these boys start talking and maybe time is against them now. I think it starts haunting them, and they will finally start talking.

Rita: Dave, I have two quick questions for you. First, there is some buzz I have been hearing among law enforcement community that you may have gotten a call from someone saying that they were Natalee or acting like they were Natalee?
Is there anything that law enforcement is looking in to?

Dave:
There was a phone call that we have not verified yet. It’s like this, you don’t want to get your hopes up high because you end up getting them dashed. But there was a phone call made, I think it was a wrong number and someone hung up. Because they really didn’t say anything and I am just going to leave it at that.

Rita: Of course, we are all praying she is alive. If it is a prank, that is terrible.
What do you want to say to the chief? I know you are heading down there Dave.

Dave: Well, I just want to say to the chief and the people of Aruba that we still have this website open. I have been getting a lot of tips and leads and forwarding them to the police. Hopefully we will get to the bottom of this case someday.


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