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September 16, 2005

Dr. Phil; Kalpoe Brother’s Mom Nadira Says, “Come on, we all lie”.

Posted in: Natalee Holloway

More stunning revelations from Nadira Ramirez on the Dr. Phil show that aired yesterday discussing the case of missing teen, Natalee Holloway. When confronted with the fabricated story that her sons concocted of the events that transpired the evening that Natalee Holloway went missing

Once Deepak and Satish got back, they had been arrested. They told you about not telling the truth about the Holiday Inn.

Nadira Ramirez made the following troubling comment:

Come on, we all lie. We all lie as big people. I know that I lie sometimes“.

With this being the mindset and foundation from which Nadira bases opinion and fact and sees no issue with Deepak and Satish from telling the truth from lie, how can anyone believe anything these people say? Nadira even goes on to still say that her sons in no way touched Natalee Holloway and even had the audacity to bring race into the issue.

There’s now pretty strong sexual assault charges being leveled against the boys.

Nadira: No. They say that they even didn’t touch her. I think that she had hard feelings for them also because they were black.

Remember back to the exclusive Greta Van Susteren interview with Nadira Ramirez on June 24, 2005 ‘Jailed Brothers’ Mom Speaks Out’, when Nadira stated the following:

“As they drove, the two brothers sat in the front seat while Holloway and Joran kissed in the back. “[Deepak] said he was getting a little upset” that they were doing that in his car”

She makes this comment while her own son Deepak says the the following during the Dr. Phil interview with investigator Jamie Skeeter, a retired chief of police and former commander, currently president of the California Association of Polygraph Examiners.

Skeeters: If it was an accident, I can help all of you. If you guys were partying, even if someone had given her a date drug. I’m sure she had sex with all of you.

Deepak: She did. You’d be surprised how simple it was.

To make the trail of lies even worse from the Kalpoe brother’s mother, Nadira even managed to destroy the time line and alibi that the brothers had concocted to the Aruban investigators. Nadira stated the following when being questioned by Skeeters:

I want to bring you up to the night that Natalee Holloway disappeared. What time did you get home that night?

Nadira: Twelve. After twelve.

What time do you think they got in?

Nadira: I assess that it was not four in the morning. It’s like, before three or maybe three o’clock. How I know they were home? Because I leave my door always … open when they step out, so when they come, they just close my door. And that’s the sign that they are home.

Once Deepak and Satish got back, they had been arrested. They told you about not telling the truth about the Holiday Inn.

I guess we all do lie? Or maybe just they do? As noted by Dr. Phil, Beth Twitty and Skeeter that Nadrira completely contradicted the alibi that had always been stated by the Kalpoe’s and her that they were home at 2:00am.

And then also she’s destroying their alibi herself. She’s saying that they were not home at 3 am.”

“I mean the whole position that they’ve taken and they’ve lied about this before they’ve said, ‘OK, it was 2:00 in the morning’ that they were home everything was done. They had dropped her back at the hotel and gone. Then later they said, ‘well, no that’s not right. We dropped her with Joran at the beach.’”

Somehow this seems a bit different from the original interviews that were done by Greta Van Susteren with Nadira Ramirez, ‘Jailed Brothers’ Mom Speaks Out. One really needs to go back and watch the video interview and notice the contradiction of the fact that her sons did in fact lie to her as she says during the interview “why did you lie to your mother,” even though she states the following:

Ramirez said she didn’t doubt that her boys were now telling the truth: “They always come clean with me.”

Deepak and Satish Kalpoe first told police that they dropped off Holloway at the Holiday Inn where she was staying because they had agreed on that version of events with Joran van der Sloot, said Nadira Ramirez, the Kalpoes’ mother, in an exclusive interview with FOX News’ Greta Van Susteren.

The question becomes why did they ever even lie as to dropping someone off at the Holiday Inn or the beach near the Marriott? Everyone knew they had left Carlos & Charlie’s together. We all know now how Deepak feels about Natalee getting into the car with three men. The only real reason for any such lie would have been to alter the time line of events and their eventual alibi.

No wonder the following occurred by the Kalpoe brother’s mom when she learned what she inadvertantly did on camera. So much for confirming that her sons were home at 2:00am?

“Clearly, their own mother could not confirm their lies and that’s why she wanted this interview back after the fact she realized what she had done. Correct?”

“That’s correct,” Jamie confirms. “She’s tried everything that she could do with advice on her attorney, Angelina and others trying to get the tapes back.”

One would think that the Aruban authorities would be bringing mom and her sons back in for some questioning as to why they may have been “truth challenged” and if they were following Nadira’s advice of, “we all lie”.

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