Joran Van der Sloot Now Says his Confession a Lie, Little Dutch Boy Says was Tricked by Police




And if you bet in Las Vegas that Joran Van der Sloot was going to come back and say that he is innocent and that the Peru police tricked him into a confession, YOU ARE A WINNER. However, it was an even money bet and so predictable from this sociopath liar that it was hardly worth the time.


Joran Van der Sloot takes his “I was scared” game to Peru

That is now Joran Van der Sloot’s latest story … Joran Van der Sloot has retracted his confession to the murder of Stephany Flores in Peru and has stated that the police tricked him into the confession. Sound familair, it should. Welcome to the Joran Van der Sloot game playing “lieapalooza”.

Joran Van der Sloot, who is spending time in a Peru prison for allegedly murdering a 21-year-old woman, now reportedly claims he didn’t kill her.

In an interview with the Dutch newspaper, De Telegraaf, the poker playing playboy says he was intimidated by police and was told he could go home to the Netherlands if he confessed.

“I was tricked,” the paper quoted him as saying. “I’ll explain later how it all happened.”

Spare us the BS Sporter, your ass is grass and Peruvian police are the lawn mower. The narcisst games you played in Aruba with the aid of your father Paulas Van der Sloot and his connections in politics and LE are not going top get you out of this one. There is a body,  there is a crime and you are on tape. What a shock that this pathetic coward would retract his confession. What’s the matter Joran, were there no two black security guards to try and pin it on this time? 

Van der Sloot claims he was “scared” when police questioned him. “In my blind panic, I signed everything, but didn’t even know what it said,” he reportedly told the newspaper.

Changing stories is nothing new with the 22-year-old. He has repeatedly offered admissions to knowing the fate of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway, only to retract his statements later.

Scared, PLUEZE! The only “scared” that exists is that there has been a “Scared Monkeys” on your back for five plus years. I am sure your fellow inmates in general population would like to know how scared you were when talking to the police, Joran or should we say fresh fish. The “I was scared” is not going to work like it did in Aruba pal, man this punk is a one trick pony.

Who are you kidding “Little Sporter,” you have been through this before. Your lies are not going to get you out of this one. There is a thing called evidence that has you dead to rights. It is five years to the day that you went through all this in the Natalee Holloway case and were interrogated by LE. How many times have you been arrested for crimes you did not commit? It is not like this is your first time and you are hardly a teenager any more.

You can lie all you want Joran Van der Sloot … this time you are going to pay for the murder of an innocent girl.  Kick and scream all you want, you spoiled wrotten little SOB, if you can’t do the time then don’t do the crime. Take your medicine like a man, then again … you’re just a pampered “Little Dutch Boy”.

As just an afterthought, maybe it is best he does retract his confession, then more years can be added to his sentence for his not cooperating with police. EXIT QUESTION: How fast is the Peruvian police going to grow wearing of Joran’s games?


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  • Comments

    111 Responses to “Joran Van der Sloot Now Says his Confession a Lie, Little Dutch Boy Says was Tricked by Police”

    1. ThEhApPsTeR on June 21st, 2010 8:29 am

      I just spewed my coffee all over the computer screen laughing so hard! I figured he would say that and I was right-although there is no way with all the evidence will Peru second-guess his guilt. I bet Aruba just covered everything for Paulus, but Joran being such a little twerp took it as his little lies actually worked. Now he is trying the same nonsense with Peru. Sorry, Joran, that’s why they call it EVIDENCE.

    2. wolfgang on June 21st, 2010 8:39 am

      Looks like enough physical evidence to throw out his confession and still give him 35 years!

    3. Lisa in Maryland on June 21st, 2010 8:47 am

      Different Day – Same Game – Big Difference, It’s called EVIDENCE!!!!!

      Joran Van der Sloot is not as sick in the head as he would like us to believe but He plays a masterfully cunning game in search of a lighter sentence! Naturally enabled by his mother!

      The story that never changes!

      What do they do with the criminally insane in Peru? Does anyone know?

      Nice try Joran – You’re not in Aruba Anymore!!

    4. Brenda on June 21st, 2010 8:49 am

      “I’ll explain later how it all happened.”

      Yup, just like he’ll explain where Natalee is.

      Guess he really hasn’t learned much yet. He is in PERU, not Aruba. In Peru I’ve seen mentioned numerous times that a CONFESSION HELPS a person. Not sure why, but acceptance or taking responsibility seems to be a positive when you are being sentenced as opposed to trying to get out of the crime. He’ll get the max for this.

      Physical evidence speaks for itself…and doesn’t lie like the boy. He is only digging his own hole deeper by this charade.

    5. A Texas Grandfather on June 21st, 2010 8:51 am

      This POS is up to his usual way of trying to get himself out of trouble.

      It is time to put on the chains and cut off his nice food. The only way you can control these types is to give them no options regarding what happens to them. It has to be like locking him in a closet until he is so weak that he can hardly move. Then question him for hours until he gradually gives up the information about the two known murder cases. There may be other major crimes as well such as rape and human trafficing.


    6. on June 21st, 2010 8:53 am

      “I was tricked,” the paper quoted him as saying. “I’ll explain later how it all happened.”

      Translation: Need time to make up the next story.

      This ought to be a good story.

      The facts we know: Joran enters room with Stephany. Joran leaves room without Stephany in a ruse to get coffee, holding empty coffee cups in hand. Joran reenters room, leaves again with baggage, Stephany’s money, credit cards and national ID. Joran takes Stephany’s car. Joran runs for border. Stephany found with broken neck, eye out of socket and Joran’s shirt wrapped around her.

      I’m betting someone broken in to Joran’s room, killed Stephany and framed Joran. NOT!

    7. Frederic Nitz on June 21st, 2010 9:07 am

      So what else is new? Joran says he lied again. I say good. No confession means more jail time.

      “Gee, every time in the past that I retracted my confession, it worked. What’s wrong now? Oh yeah, there is the physical evidence. Darn. I wish I had broken those surveliance cameras and disposed of the body. Wait, I also lied to the taxi drivers and I didn’t really steal her money, her credit cards and her car and escape to Chile. I was just fooling around. It was those two invisible guys that killed her but chose to let me live.”

    8. Lisa in Maryland on June 21st, 2010 9:10 am

      Joran, Joran, dutchboy pie

      Kills the girls then tell’s a lie!

      But Nobody Gives a Hoot

      For the Lies of Van der Sloot!

    9. Frederic Nitz on June 21st, 2010 9:23 am

      If he is really “sick in the head” like his mother claims, perhaps amputation would help.

    10. Reno on June 21st, 2010 9:44 am
    11. Mike on June 21st, 2010 9:47 am

      This is hopefully good news. Now maybe they will not cut down his sentence and send his sorry ass to the tougher prison. The only bad part is that he will never tell anything of any use about Natalee before his throat is slit. I do not believe he knows where her body is anyway, if it has not been put in the ocean. Even if he knew where it was you have to think anybody else that was involved in aruba would have moved the body after paulas died to keep urine from telling anybody.

    12. Miss-Underestimated on June 21st, 2010 10:03 am

      Dumbarss he is not messing with Aruba, Peru will not play games with the player. He is messing with a whole different group of people. They don’t owe Joran or Paulus any favors.

    13. Miss-Underestimated on June 21st, 2010 10:07 am

      Oops clicked too fast.
      Let’s not forget. Joran admitted to killing a politicans daughter. I think Joran just realized the levity of that to Peruvians.

    14. Roxy on June 21st, 2010 10:25 am

      His evil twin did it…did it all!

    15. LynneinMd. on June 21st, 2010 10:33 am

      If his lips are moving…..he’s lying.

    16. Lisa in Maryland on June 21st, 2010 11:35 am

      He’s beyond Criminal – He is a true Demon!

      This confirms for me that hope is lost to ever find out what happened to Natalee! UNCLE!

      Peru should remove him from protective custody and put him in with the general population for non-cooperation.

      He deserves no special attention. He’s trying to make a mockery of the Peruvian judicial system!

      Lynne in MD – Well Said
      Reno – Nice Game!
      Fredrick – I’m with you “OFF WITH HIS HEAD”!

    17. Lisa in Maryland on June 21st, 2010 11:37 am

      I wonder if we could pay Peru to clear their dockets and expedite the trial?

    18. super dave on June 21st, 2010 11:41 am

      he’s trying to pull the same tricks on the peruvian police as he so easily did with the arubans.

    19. Jack Hammer on June 21st, 2010 11:51 am

      Thanks for the link Reno. That was so much fun.

    20. Brenda on June 21st, 2010 12:08 pm

      Dear Kat,

      Don’t you mean this is going to be a good STORIES? There will be more than one ;>)

    21. Brenda on June 21st, 2010 12:10 pm


      You mean Anita?

    22. byebyejoran on June 21st, 2010 12:15 pm

      #6 – you left out another incredibly incriminating piece of evidence: Joran goes into room after getting coffees and bread, then exits room with coffees and bread, closes door behind him and makes sure it locks, then gets a maid to unlock the door for him–so that the maid will witness him bringing back the coffees. Too bad the videotape reveals it all!

    23. nurturer69 on June 21st, 2010 12:45 pm

      I don’t think the Peruvian LE cares about his tactics, past or present. What they care about is that he killed one of their citizens, and he’s going to be made an example of, for all the world to see. They’re going to serve it up cold.

    24. kiltie on June 21st, 2010 12:49 pm

      Heard on CNN this morning that the Judge is going to Joran’s cell to pass sentence (for security reasons, rather than open court) and that sentence is imminent. And that Joran will have to be formally sentenced and serving his time, before any appeals to get him transferred to the Netherlands or the U.S. Also, that once sentence is passed, he goes shortly thereafter into general population.

    25. Greg the Mongoose on June 21st, 2010 12:58 pm

      Put him in genral population. Since Joran murdered and robbed Stephany Flores, go for a life sentence.
      Bad ass thinks he can survive general population…

    26. Waterboy on June 21st, 2010 12:59 pm

      The little Dutchman (in reference to his nude picture) has gotten in, and won’t be getting out this time.


    27. john alonso on June 21st, 2010 1:03 pm

      Very bad news for all of us…..”JVDS his lawyer is absolutely sure that he will get him free on procedure mistakes” he say that plenty of mistakes are made in the rush and pressure justice needed to perform under.Well the good news is in that case the U.S will ask his extradiction so maybe all by all it was good thing he fell for the trap the F.B.I made for him or better JVDS trapped himself.

    28. john alonso on June 21st, 2010 1:11 pm

      @ Brenda in many 3rd world country’s a confession will give you a huge advantage where i live its normaly 50% reduction on your sentence if you do.murder rape whatever it is i know its a weird thing and its not really honnest…some people do comfess even they not guilty because of this,knowing that if the prosecuter find your guilty the judge will folow no mather the evidence or it have to be overwhelming evidence that you are not guilty but its rare to have that evidence.I hope his lawyer is wrong and after his time in peru can spend some time in the U.S as well.

    29. mayan_moons on June 21st, 2010 1:15 pm

      So now anita is conceding sporter is guilty of killing Stephany coz he’s sick in the head?

      Jurine chooses small young women that he can beat to a pulp & kill when he wants something but you best believe he Will be kicking, screaming & crying when his trial is over & it hits him that nobody is coming to his rescue. I really hope Peru grants live coverage of Jipshit’s sentencing day.

    30. maryl on June 21st, 2010 1:49 pm

      Drudge Report has the story…titled
      Van der Slut retracts murder confession…

      ‘I was tricked’…
      too funny. Joran won’t worm out of this one.

    31. NoseyRosey on June 21st, 2010 1:54 pm

      I expected this, but I wonder if Joran’s mother’s statement to the press had anything to do with the timing- she says she’ll disown him “if he killed her” and now he says he was “tricked” into a confession. I just don’t trust anyone in this family.

    32. Brenda on June 21st, 2010 2:10 pm

      #22. Thank you for pointing that out. The truth can be so incriminating :>)

      As for ‘How fast Peruvian police will grow wearing of Joran’s games?’ I say they ain’t playing….and IMO are NOT amused to be called liars and thugs by the Dutch boy. In a round-about way he is doing just that as Peruvian LE insisted early on the interrogating was done fairly with proper persons present for both Peru and Dutch interests.

      I say let the boy talk away. It will only be for so much longer anyway that he’ll be alive enough to do so ;>)

    33. Ladylobo on June 21st, 2010 2:11 pm

      There is not a ounce of truth in anything Joran says. I believe his confession was honey coated
      even if he was admitting the murder. It was much more violent that he explained.
      He needs to be removed from this earth. He can’t be rehabilitated or helped. He is a monster. He will only make up more lies.
      There’s more crimes that he has committed that he will probably ever be charged with.
      He needs a taste of his own medicine!!!!!!

    34. Tamikosmom on June 21st, 2010 3:20 pm


      NO BODY – NO CASE?

      On June 10, 2005, a spokesperson for the office of the Aruban Minister of Justice reported that authorities confirmed the death of Natalee Holloway and the location of her body was known.

      The Aruban chief of police reported that one of the suspects had provided a confession but … the chief refused to reveal which suspect.

      Prior to the Aruban Justice Minister’s denial and his spokesperson’s retraction, Natalee Holloway’s parents had been notified of their daughter’s demise.

      ‘Fox News’
      David Cruz, a spokesman for the Aruban Minister of Justice (search) told FOX News Natalee Holloway (search), who was on vacation with friends with a graduation trip when she disappeared, was confirmed dead and that authorities knew the location of her body.,2933,159252,00.html

      ‘Fox News’
      RICK LEVENTHAL: We reconfirmed the information with Croues before going on-air with it.,2933,159664,00.html
      ‘CBS News’
      Holloway’s family rushed late Friday to an old stone lighthouse beside Arisha beach after Deputy Police Commissioner Gerold Dompig told The Associated Press that one of three young men in custody admitted that “something bad happened” to Holloway and was leading police to the scene of the alleged crime.

      ‘Meridian Star’
      DAVE HOLLOWAY: At some point into this investigation, as time goes on and you don’t find her, you start realizing that things are not looking good. We got that confirmation pretty much from the FBI on June 10. They came to us and said the investigation appears to be heading toward a homicide case.

      ‘Scarborough Country’
      BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: And that was the day that the FBI came in, Doug Shipley (ph) came in and said that the way the interrogations are unfolding, there‘s a strong possibility that Natalee may not be alive. That was huge. That was the day that—I think, Joe, everyone buried Natalee that day, on June 10. And then it just—from there, the night went on. There were body sightings, countless. They were knocking on my door. They thought they found her. Oh, no, they didn‘t. It went on from 2:00 a.m. to 3:00 a.m. to 4:00 a.m. It was horrific.

      Then Justice Minister Rudy Croes told reporters early Saturday morning that the rumor that one of the students had confessed was a lie, throwing the media on the island into confusion and prompting conflicting news alerts from the Caribbean. Croes emphatically denied that any confession had been made.

      ‘Fox News’
      Cruz later retracted the statement, saying he was a victim of a “misinformation campaign.”,2933,159252,00.html


      Natalee Holloway’s Uncle: I believe is that the boys buried her by the fishermans hut, and Paulus and Co moved her without the boys knowledge because of Joran’s confession and the fact the boys recorded conversation indicate they don’t know where she is now.;topicseen#msg331268

    35. Frederic Nitz on June 21st, 2010 3:51 pm

      Peru: Throw out Joran’s confession and schedule his next hearing for the first available date. That should be sometime after the other prisoners already waiting trial and will probably be in 2013. Until then turn him out to the general population in Castro Castro. Problem solved.

    36. Mike on June 21st, 2010 4:04 pm

      I read where Urine refused to speak with the judge claiming his rights were violated. That stupid SOB does not know the meaning of violation YET!! I hope the judge has had enough of his shit and puts him in the general population of the other prison. Urine will be like the pony rides at the circus with people standing in line to ride him. He will be “rode hard and put up wet” every day. I can’t wait.

    37. Sven on June 21st, 2010 4:13 pm

      my 2 cents: Why Anita went from “The bitch set me up” to “maybe he has a mental disorder?” in less than three days: She finally saw the video tapes, her other two sons begged her, and NO-one would support her insane theories. She didn’t have an epiphany (sp?); her back was against the wall – like Joran’s is now. My feeble theory is she has always stood by Joran because she always blamed Paulus for his bad behavior from taking him to the casinos with him in high school, plying him with liquor and and allowing him to go crazy and “tutoring him to act like a man”. She believed Joran would have admitted to Natalee’s “accidental death” but Paulus intervened and disposed of the body and paid off people, etc. and Joran was trapped and influenced by his dad. Fast forward, her denial of early psycho behavior (killing the family dog years ago) she blames all on Paulus now. She plays well the “I’m just a simple school teacher”. She pretends to be innocent of all – yea, right!

    38. Brenda in Virginia on June 21st, 2010 4:21 pm

      John Alonso, thank you for the explaination. I can see why this reducing of sentence can be a 2 edged sword.

      Dutch boy learned young to manipulate his father, a judge (in training, but no less going to be). He never had to answer for punishment to that man so why would he conclude he should show respect (MUCH deserved respect) to the judge about the sentence you? Oh my.

      I do believe mother’s statement is an excuse for her and Paulus poor parenting. The Dutch boy is simply doing what he does and will do from now until he draws last breath.

    39. YukonMax on June 21st, 2010 4:34 pm

      The little Duch Boy is also from the Gay Capital of Europe. Anyone here that think he will hate being rammed by other prisoners are wrong. When you are a chameleon like him, everything is allowed and anything goes. As long as he profits from the situation. That fat ass has been stuffed before. Death penalty is the only way to deal with this monster.
      They ca then ask him questions later with the same results.

    40. Maggie on June 21st, 2010 4:35 pm

      Figured Anita was setting his defense up..Anita says while talking to him on the phone, Joran was paranoid and thought he was being followed in Peru..before Stephany’s murder and after Stephany’s murder, he was paranoid and thought he was being followed. We can almost guest who is behind the scenes of his defense.. if you know who I mean.. Paranoid and mentally deranged.. The ALIENS that got Natalee, showed up in Peru to frame Joran..

      I don’t call that Paranoid.. He had good reason to think someone was following him, after all, he had just extorted 25 grand from Beth Holloway for false information in the location of Natalee’s burial place. I call it , he knew he done wrong and was afraid the FBI would catch up to him.

      I don’t believe, the Joran was 2 days away from going into psychiatric treatment bs.. yeah and the dog ate my homework.

      Now that Anita and Paulus allowed Joran to hang out in bars half the night underage, gamble underage.. have little sleep overs in his own apartment underage, lie to the police, taunt and tortue Natalee’s family, try to implicate Natalee’s friends and family in what happen to her, engage in putting false stories about Natalee and her family to trash them, she wants to blame Natalee and her family.. for Joran’s problems. They don’t seem to have an ounce of class about them.

    41. NGBoston on June 21st, 2010 4:42 pm

      How true, how true—-the Bottom Line is:

      The delicious Little Sporter is not in Aruba anymore…. Another attempt where Joran alleges a “false” confession was given or coerced doesn’t mean diddly.

      JVDS = DeAD MaN WalKinG

      * Justice 4 Natalee & Stephany *

      Viva Peru!

    42. meemee on June 21st, 2010 5:12 pm

      its funny how we all saw a video of joran reading the material for quite sometime before he signed his name, the peru police have video taped almost everystep he has made in their custody, trapped no joran, CAUGHT, just put him in general pop. no special cell, take away all his belongings, let him eat shit food for a few days, the rat he claims crawling in his solitary cell will be nothing, dont play his games peru.JUSTICE FOR STEPAHNY AND NATALIE

    43. Mike on June 21st, 2010 5:24 pm

      Urine thought all he had to do was confess and they would ship his sorry ass back to aruba or the netherlands. SUPRISE!! Now that he has figured out that ain’t gonna happen he has started claiming all of his usual crap. This is good!! The judge is not going to take kindly to this and maybe put him back at the other prison in general population waiting for his trial date. I would like to see the vegas odds of him making it to the court date. Even if,, and that is a BIG IF, he did get off do you really think he would make it out of peru alive. He has screwed his best chance of survival by bucking the judge and retracting his confession. I believe his lawyer is doing us a favor.

    44. Susan on June 21st, 2010 5:28 pm


      I bet Castro Castro has a big dark, nasty, cold dungeon in it with plenty of torture devices :-) Throw Urine down there, throw away the key, never let him see the light of day again, ever, and let the rats eat him alive!!

      CNN just reporting Urine says his rights have been violated… What about Natalee’s and Stephany’s rights???

    45. Lisa in Maryland on June 21st, 2010 5:32 pm

      My husband says, maybe they had a convention of “Night of a 1000 Van der Sloots” and one of them killed her!

    46. david r on June 21st, 2010 5:37 pm

      Joran has a “date” with a broom handle coming up before long.

    47. mayan_moons on June 21st, 2010 6:11 pm

      If he doesn’t know the truth from a lie it’s coz Anita & Paules fostered his lies & his bad behaviour & covered up what happened to Natalee.

      Let Anita & Jurine spin & spin but i don’t think the good people of Peru nor the judge’s are having any of it.

    48. Greg the Mongoose on June 21st, 2010 6:25 pm


      When IN SESSION “Jean Casarez” went into CASTRO CASTRO on her tour, and caught Joran leaving his cell on tape.

      YES, that was a civil rights violation. Just like prisoners of war your not allowed to film them in jail. Yes, they screwed up the case!

      His confession might make this an exception?

      Just release Joran into general population I can not take anymore of this guy.

    49. Lisa in Maryland on June 21st, 2010 6:55 pm


      The little Dutchman (in reference to his nude picture) has gotten in, and won’t be getting out this time.

      I hear the other inmates can’t see him and are interested in his celebrity.

      We should take that photo, blow it up to poster size with the following Caption and distribute it to them.


      Bio: Doesn’t Kill and Tell!

    50. Lisa in Maryland on June 21st, 2010 6:59 pm

      Speaking of that picture …

      Anita must have told Joran if you lie your penis will shrink!

    51. NGBoston on June 21st, 2010 7:32 pm

      John Alonso & Greg the Mongoose….Gentlemen, relax about Civil Rights violations and Joran’s Attorney saying mistakes have been made. Who cares, it’s all irrelevant at this point, I say.

      This is South America we are talking about where Joran murdered a young woman whose family holds some political clout in the Western Republic of Peru!

      Joran VDS will not make it out of Castro Castro alive. Even if by some remote chance he does walk away from those walls, he will then be killed. Have either of you ever been to Peru? If so, you can rest assured that what other legal experts are saying (same as above) is true. He is legitimately a dead man walking, regardless of security or isolation.

      They WILL get to him. And he knows it. Maybe that is why #48 agrees that he just needs to be released into general pop. That is all it is going to take, IMO. Even with this case remaining in International Headlines, the delicious Little Sporter is going to get “Dahmer-ized”. It may take some time, but it will happen & when it does, it’s not going to be pretty.

      **** Justice for Natalee & Stephany *****

      Viva Peru!

    52. nychic on June 21st, 2010 8:32 pm

      Here is another news item out of Castro Castro today from the Pig’s very own lawyer:

      The Pig and his new buddy the Colombian Hit Man have been kicking back and watching World Cup Soccer in their private “leisure” area

    53. Maggie on June 21st, 2010 9:07 pm

      I think they are doing that so everyone watching can’t say he was mistreated.. It’s all for show n tell, just like the trip through the prison. I don’t think it’s anything like they are showing. When the trial is over all bets are off. I in no way believe, he is gonna beat this. No matter how nuts his mom claims he is.

      My fear is Natalee’s family will never get answers. There are others in Aruba who know the truth.. but they are as gutless as him..

    54. USS Yorktown on June 21st, 2010 9:17 pm

      You can’t believe anything from Joran. He keeps changing his story. He is a pathological liar.

    55. Waterboy on June 21st, 2010 9:40 pm

      Has anyone ever noticed how Joran looks like a monkey?
      I think we should tag him “monkey boy” , or “the little “Dutch Monkey Boy”, or just simply “Mon’ Key.”

    56. Lisa in Maryland on June 21st, 2010 10:08 pm

      test – fighting spam folder!

    57. Lisa in Maryland on June 21st, 2010 10:09 pm

      #51 NGBoston,

      You’re right it’s all irrelevant at this point.

      Peru’s leagal system is totally different from ours and what they consider “Civil Rights” are different too. Due to the world wide attention this case is gathering, Peru is affording him every reasonable amenity. Of course that will change as soon as he is convicted.

      I don’t think he can comprehend the stew he’s gotten himself into. As a sociopath he cannot accept the responsibility for his actions. It will always be her fault for getting in his way during his rage or upsetting him to the point that he oops! Had to kill her!

      As Maggie Stated, “My fear is Natalee’s family will never get answers.” I tearfully, threw in the towel on that one this morning!

      What I am really concerned with is Joran coping some type of insanity plea. I fear that is something he could possibly pull off.

      My biggest Question….Does anyone here know what Peru does with the Criminally Insane?

    58. Ding on June 21st, 2010 10:10 pm

      i think he looks really hot in his booking foto. really hot. seriously.

    59. john alonso on June 21st, 2010 11:04 pm

      @NGBoston..maybe its my english that make this confusing…i try again.I think he should be punished the hardst possible legal way.The statement about procedure failure isnt mine but its his lawyer who is from Peru who point out that numerous procedure failures are made!!!This guy have most prob. more experience in the Peruvuan lawsystem then al of us toghether(i dont have any)so i think he know what he say.Anyway IF it happen that he should be released for this murder we are lucky enough the F.B.I do have that extortion case and he wil have to face trial in the U.S for that case.So either way if he get lucky again then i am sure the U.S wil be happy to do the job Aruba and Peru failed in.

    60. USS Yorktown on June 21st, 2010 11:27 pm

      I don’t think we will ever know what happened to Holloway. Joran keeps changing his story.

    61. Jenny on June 22nd, 2010 12:37 am

      Well that is twice now right…poor little joran!!!

    62. Mellyrel on June 22nd, 2010 2:14 am

      your website doesn’t even link to wikipedia anymore- they think you are all cyberbullies- which you are :) innocent until proven guilty!
      SM: Wiki is nothing more than a subjective account by people with an aganda. Wiki is not what it used to be. It is subjective, nothing more.

      If you have not notices, SM is not a court of law, it is the court of public opinion.

      As I have said in the past, what will all the JVDS fool apologist do once he is convicted? Then they will make up another excuse for murder.

    63. brie. on June 22nd, 2010 2:19 am

      Joran, shut up…your mother told you to retract your confession and she thinks it’s OK to kill young women…your not innocent…and never has been…!!!!

    64. john alonso on June 22nd, 2010 4:33 am

      @Lisa Peru as many other country’s do provide”help”to insane criminals meaning that he would be placed in a mental institution BUT i dont think that gone happen its just one of the cards he try to play…he have to be insane in a level that he can not held responcible for the criminal acts he comitted and it seems clear he isnt that insane.

    65. Scott on June 22nd, 2010 6:07 am

      #62 – you’re an idiot. No other way around it.

      johnalonso – you are a Joran supporter and your posts have proven it. There were NO procedure mistakes PERIOD! I don’t care what his Peruvian lawyer has said. He is doing what defense attorneys do SIMPLE AS THAT.

      He is NOT getting out of prison anytime soon and he will be CONVICTED of this murder.

      I don’t understand dopes like you that think the police don’t have LOCKDOWN evidence to put this guy away for murder. THEY DO.

      As for the Columbian hit man, don’t be surprised if he’s an undercover Peruvian policeman looking for more information because we all know Joran has loose lips and those sink ships!

      Give me a break about all the procedural RHETORIC.

      Do you want to put money where you big mouth is that he does not get set free EVER?

    66. Jenny on June 22nd, 2010 6:22 am

      Didnt the FBI give JVDS $250.000 and that funded his trip to Peru? Guess the FBI is as guilty as Joran, his parents, Aruba. Joran fooled everyone… even the FBI that also has blood on there hands!
      SM: Actually did not come directly from the FBI.

      Actually, in the end only JVDS has blood on his hands. No one could have suspected he would have gone to Peru and killed. Although Aruba LE could have arrested him as well.

    67. Daily Commentary – Tuesday, June 22nd, 2010 – Joran Van der Sloot Claims He Was Tricked by Peruvian Police | Scared Monkeys on June 22nd, 2010 7:30 am

      [...] der Sloot continues to play games with the media. Joran Van der Sloot now claims that he was tricked into his confession.Wow, that’s creative. Like no criminal has ever said  that before. We need to protect the [...]

    68. Lisa in Maryland on June 22nd, 2010 7:31 am

      Smart one Scott!

      It never occured to me that Hugo the Columbian Hit man may be a plant!

      He is someone Joran would look up to being that he is the “Gangster” type. He’s not Peruvian so that makes him “Not one of them”, and the two are isloated togeter allowing a bonding of sorts. You may have something there.

      I agree with you about Joran’s Attorney and the “Procedural Mistakes”. I am sure the Peruvians went to great lengths to make sure that no procedural mistakes were made. Hell, it took them 3 days just to get the paperwork for Jorans transfer signed. Which by the way, would allow them time to install Hugo in to the next cell.

      Jorans attorney know’s he doesn’t have a fighting chance against the three judge panel. The only way he can defend him is by picking the investigation apart and trying to get the evidence recinded. However, I think all of the comments are coming from Joran and not his attorney.

    69. Brenda on June 22nd, 2010 7:35 am

      Scott, how much coffee you have this morning? Go to decaf man. Seriously, all I get from John is he understand life is much different in Peru. More cut and dry…not so much wiggle room for the criminal. Notice he also mentions Dutch-boy is NOT insane and won’t get away with that crap. Dutch-boy honestly believes he can outsmart the Peruvian LE who have dealt with harsh drug-runners and all types of crazy stuff neither Aruba or the US do within their boarders on a daily basis at that level. Those are tough folks down there and I have faith in justice in Peru, however it’s carried out.

      If mistakes were made, what’s that in the face of the blood and video evidence? Little IMO.

      As for the Wiki comment, that poster was simply stating she likes what she reads here and apparently Wiki doesn’t. If I am wrong on both…I’ll fix another pot of coffee myself as I must need it.

    70. Lisa in Maryland on June 22nd, 2010 8:21 am

      Good Morning Monkeys! Anyone have anything good in their bag of TRICKS today?

      John, my Smith & Wesson (You know, the one I got for my Birthday along with the metal detector) is loaded and cocked!

      Since I’m such a hard core villian, I cradle it right next to my mouse!

    71. JM on June 22nd, 2010 9:05 am


    72. Scott on June 22nd, 2010 9:06 am

      Brenda – this johnalonso is the same moron who was defending Joran and saying that he was set up. If you don’t believe me check for yourself. He was defending him to a tee, saying that all the forces somehow collaborated to set up Joran for murder, went as far to say that the Holloway’s may have set this up…..THAT MAKES ME SICK.

      It’s the same for the dopes that think OJ was innocent; let free because the jurors in that case couldn’t add 2+2 and couldn’t understand DNA; another case of people thinking the LAPD was somehow out to “get” him and collaborated this whole thing…Give me a break!

      I’m tired of these apologists.

      Lisa – I can not take full credit for that as my dad, a retired policeman who worked homicide mentioned that to me over the weekend.

    73. not surprised at all on June 22nd, 2010 9:37 am

      @#66 Jenny,

      Jenny, please tell us what jurisdiction the FBI had over Joran Van Der Sloot while he was living in Aruba and committed the extortion.

      Those who follow the Natalee Holloway case recall that it was Paulus Van Der Sloot himself who filed with the Aruban courts an order to assure that the FBI had no jurisdiction in Aruba nor could they participate in independent investigation….essentially, they had to follow Aruban Law Enforcement. The FBI finally left in disgust.

      Why would Paulus Van Der Sloot have filed this if he and his spawn were innocent?….Mr.”No Body….No Crime”. Beautiful.

      Blaming the FBI (or even Beth Holloway as some have done) for the acts of a sociopath is ridiculous. Aruba could have locked this guy up several times for the evidence and confessions they received. All fingers point at Aruba and their corrupt Dutch system.

    74. john alonso on June 22nd, 2010 9:45 am

      @ Scott and the gang…Hugo is in that cell since end april 2010 but ya indeed they put him there undercover because the knew JVDS was coming soon to kill and they needed an undercover!! before you make statements like that maybe do a simple search instead of trying to play FBI!!

      @Scott again…..where did i post 1 positive thing about Joran…where?please post it instead of accusing me.

      All i did is give you people an update on an intervieuw with his laywer…it arent my words that he get him free for reasons of procedurefailure it are the lawyers words.

      By accident i can read dutch the dutch Telegraaf newspaper did an exclusive intervieuw with JVDS and his mother…and the lawyer is quoted to say those words not JVDS because he dont talk about the case anymore he isnt allowed on advice of his lawyer!!!!

      Tomorow you will prob. have a thread on this site that the lawyer clames to set him free on base of procedurefailures(that not mean it gone happen)but thats what he said….you gone shoot at the messeneger as well then if the messenger is called SM?

      @brenda thanks you got it right…what a reaction of that Scott guy.

      That i defended his mother yes i did.BUT PLEASE get the facts right all my posts state clearly that for my part JVDS can stay in jail as long as juridical possible.And that its more then clear he did kill Flores ofcourse he did even a blind man can see that.

      @ Lisa be carefull with that gun it could bring you in trouble…btw is that metal detector placed in the entrance of your house to check your visitors are arm-free?I cant imagine to live in a world where i would have the feeling i need to buy a metal detector even for free i would refuse it.I never said you a villain btw,its just funny to see a woman on the web posting(bragging) she got a gun and a metaldetector for her birthday.My house is open day and night never locked,doors wide open and i have nog guns or other weapons,dont be so paranoid Lisa its a wondefull world.when my wife is home alone the door is open as well so dont defend it on your gender.

      Before you start a new rant against me Scott first post a post where i defend JVDS otherwise i should suggest not to answer anymore,even Lisa who do have differnent opions about some things then me do have the class to point out your behaviour and namecalling is totaly out of line.

    75. Brenda on June 22nd, 2010 9:51 am

      Well Scott I admit I didn’t see that and if true, not sure why he’s waddling back and forth.

      I’d love to hear what your dad has to say about this. He had a VERY hard job for a long time and saw the best/worst of human nature.

      to Lisa…did you REALLY get the same stuff I did for my b’day this year? I got myself a Smith and Wesson and metal detector. Cripes, that’s kinda cool! (And I work at home IT sitting my my mouse 8 hrs per day too :) ..but don’t keep my weapon with me. Only thing I could shoot if angry was the computer !

    76. john alonso on June 22nd, 2010 9:53 am

      @ scott 72 are you out of your mind man? If you find that post i give SM the right to openly publish my details e-mail IP and allow you all to come lynch me. LOL man man are you drunk or on drugs?I do know what i write…I think you really own me a huge appology if you a real man but i doubt it you are.

    77. meemee on June 22nd, 2010 10:18 am

      scott is absolutely right john has over and over again defended joran. why who knows from his english is is either from the netherlands or aruba, maybe jorans younger brother . we all know joran killed stephany, and those covering this case for 5 years know he killed natalie. and we all know what a baby and liar he is. Peru is NOT GOING to let him go, they videotaped his everystep, video doesnt lie, joran does.

    78. Lisa in Maryland on June 22nd, 2010 12:08 pm

      I posted this on the daiyl commentary but it remains the only post so I’ll post it here.

      So they Tricked him he says! As if it were a Crime!

      Like the way he:

      Tricked his father by sneaking out May 30, 2005?
      Tricked Natalee by slipping drugs into her Drink?
      Tricked Aruban officals by telling them 2 Black guards took Natalee?
      Tricked the Holloway’s with all the different lies he’s told?
      Tricked Stephany into going to his Hotel Room?
      Tricked the Hotel staff into unlocking his door?
      Tricked the Peruvians by dying his hair?

      Jorans only problem is his bag of “Tricks” is Empty!

      If it were illegal to Trick someone Joran would be put away for far more than a possible 35 yrs!

      Joran join the real world “Tricks are for Kids”

      Scott – Tell your dad “Big Thanks” – That’s a really tough job he does! I appreciate reading your posts and yes, these Van der Sloot Groupies make me sick too!

    79. Scott on June 22nd, 2010 12:35 pm

      #77 Thank you for getting my back.

      Lisa Thanks!

      Brenda – Thanks (I think)

      Look loser alonso…I don’t have the time on my hands like you do to go back and search for all your posts where you CLEARLY stated that is was VERY possible Joran was set up. You even stated anybody would do anything for $50. You even claimed that all the evidence that has been “leaked” wasn’t relevant and probably untrue.

      You started changing your tune once you understood that they have enough evidence without his confession. If you knew anything about police work, you would have understood more quickly.

      I have a job, unlike you; probably living off Peruvian welfare.

      Dude, lynch? Really? You do know that word has a significant meaning for many Americans here in this great country called the USA? D**k!

      You are real big man talking about my manhood behind a computer screen…LOL.. I’ve got your manhood right here buddy.

      I wouldn’t travel to Peru if someone paid me a $1M dollars. Not a chance I’m going to some 3rd world country like Mexico to “lynch” some needle d*** pimpled face flip flopper such as you!

      Get bent loser!

    80. Lisa in Maryland on June 22nd, 2010 1:36 pm

      Get this:

      Joran Van der Sloot says he is SURVIVING in prison

      Accused Dutch Killer Suggests the FBI Lured Him to Peru!

      Aauhh Shucks! TRICKED AGAIN! Joran enjoy your luxury accomodations while they last your vacation is almost over!

    81. Lisa in Maryland on June 22nd, 2010 1:47 pm

      I imagine I could survive prison too if I was sitting around giving interviews all day!

      Where are these stories coming from are they really allowing him to give interviews all day???

      How is the media getting this information???

    82. Maggie on June 22nd, 2010 1:56 pm

      #74 john alonso on June 22nd, 2010 9:45 am

      I will defend you, just this onceeee:) I don’t see either of these pro Joran from you. Living in a country with the population over 306,108,000 (March 29, 2009), crime happens a lot.. Crazy world.. Greed..and clearly many don’t respect the female role, IE.. look at the number of women killed by husbands and bfs.. or acquaintances.. serial killers.. Don’t respect children either.. look at all the missing children. We can never be too careful anymore.

      john alonso on June 21st, 2010 1:03 pm

      Very bad news for all of us…..”JVDS his lawyer is absolutely sure that he will get him free on procedure mistakes” he say that plenty of mistakes are made in the rush and pressure justice needed to perform under.Well the good news is in that case the U.S will ask his extradiction so maybe all by all it was good thing he fell for the trap the F.B.I made for him or better JVDS trapped himself.

      john alonso on June 21st, 2010 11:04 pm

      @NGBoston..maybe its my english that make this confusing…i try again.I think he should be punished the hardst possible legal way.The statement about procedure failure isnt mine but its his lawyer who is from Peru who point out that numerous procedure failures are made!!!This guy have most prob. more experience in the Peruvuan lawsystem then al of us toghether(i dont have any)so i think he know what he say.Anyway IF it happen that he should be released for this murder we are lucky enough the F.B.I do have that extortion case and he wil have to face trial in the U.S for that case.So either way if he get lucky again then i am sure the U.S wil be happy to do the job Aruba and Peru failed in.

    83. kiltie on June 22nd, 2010 3:06 pm

      If Joran gets to plead insanity, and succeeds, it will mean his sentence will only be 3 to 6 years according to the news this morning. If Peru’s insane asylums are as bad as their jails, it should be even more unpalatable for Joran, and the likelihood of him surviving that will be just as grim. Some of the pictures of Joran when detained, he really does have a whole different “madman” look. I have always suspected insanity, but most likely not to the degree to justify a lesser sentence.

    84. sven on June 22nd, 2010 3:32 pm

      “They tricked me” was a line he got from Anita. Anita said last week or before Joran wouldn’t have been in Peru but for Beth Holloway tricking him into extorting money, forgetting it was Joran who called Beth, not the opposite. And now we know why he was so desperate for money and to leave Aruba – Anita was having him committed to a psych ward. So, it was Anita’s fault he extorted and fled to Peru.

    85. crossbow on June 22nd, 2010 3:47 pm

      I’ve (we) have waited five years to see Joran behind bars.
      Too bad it was because another innocent young life was snuffed out by this compost material poor excuse for an oxygen to cabon dioxide generator.
      Remember at the time of Natalee’s disappearance Melody was not Joran’s girlfriend it was Stefany Cortes.
      Coincidence this young girl he murdered was Stephany.
      Rip Stephany Flores and Natalee Holloway.

    86. sven on June 22nd, 2010 4:01 pm

      2 Questions for anyone:

      Joran bought a sub shop in Thailand; owned it for a year or two and sold it last fall for pennies on the dollar cuz the books were in such disarray. General consensus by local Thais was he was using the receipts for his gambling addiction debts. Did he buy it with daddy’s money or is there any link to his supposed whore trade from Thailand to Amsterdam caught on a Dutch TV undercover sting? Where did he get the money to buy it?

      Was he extorting money from Paulus before his death? In a taped 2008(?) interview with Greta van Sustern, he provided a recording of a conversation with Paulus saying he wanted to tell the truth and was done running. He recorded and Greta aired Paulus saying you can’t do that because it would – (forget the exact words) hurt us, implicate us, = us = mom and dad, or dad and brothers or all? So, before he called Beth and asked for $250,000, could it be Paulus had been providing him money to keep quiet? And when he died, the money died.

    87. wolfgang on June 22nd, 2010 4:11 pm

      Lisa..neat! I think he just doesn’t get it that he is over; and all that he thought he could do with his classy shape shifter behavior no longer works. Time to learn new behaviors.

    88. Lisa in Maryland on June 22nd, 2010 7:02 pm

      Maggie #82 – I’ve read many of your posts and I’ve never had a problem with any of them in fact I support many if not all of them but you need to know who you are defending and i don’t think you do because his comment pretain to your postings just as much as ours…

      Just an FYI – these are the comments that many of us are upset about. They were made on Yesterdays posts and two or three days prior to this Red himself, had already warned John about his previous posts and that he is not a full member of SM and if he didn’t cut the CRAP he was going to ban him.

      He has lightened up a bit since then but he is still causing some trouble here. It is okay to have an opposing point of view it’s the way he puts it. Like trying to tell SM how to run the site and picking fights with other posters and so on. That is not the point of us posting here.

      Please do not enable this poster. Read what he has to say and form your own opinion. If you want to defend him after that it is you progative Just understand who you are defending.

      No. 37 john alonso on June 21st, 2010 1:57 am
      I read with disgust with the constant bashing of people with another opinion…I thought Mods where on a board to keep things in line on this site the Mod is the head of the “Hang them high clan”.Dare to have an opinion that not strokes with the purpose of the thread….the purpose of this thread is to blame Anita as a mother…its like everybody knows the VDS family personal….Really its silly.

      Note.i disgust JVDS for me he can rot in jail forever..newsflash**** he now say that he is framed and that he signed his confession because he was scared and peru told him if he sign he could do his time in holland,he couldent read the confession because it was spanish,he will later tell what really happend,same old BS******……Mods it should be better to put your energy in posting newsfacts instead of speculations and start hatecampaigns versus Anita.

      *Yes i wasnt gone post on this board anymore but maybe maybe by posting i can open somebody’s eyes,i doubt it but i try its worth the energy…lets copy paste this in case it hit the spamfolder..;)

      SM: Quit your whining and grow up. If you want to have an opposing point of view then do so and face the wrath of those who oppose you. Geez, how about some cheese with that whine.
      Get a spine.

      THEN ON….
      No. 54 john alonso on June 21st, 2010 12:17 pm
      Some of you can’t read? I no way i defend JVDS did he kill Flores?Yes of course he did thats clear.Did he kill Natalee?Maybe he killed her maybe it was an accident and he did indeed panick anyway whatever happend in Aruba he is aware of it and should be punished severly for it even if he didnt kill her he did a terrible thing by torturing the family with made up story’s and extortion just recently…..No sympathy no mercy for him(not that i want him to be killed or get the death penalty)but for me he can stay in jail forever and believe me this is something i not say about many people.Where i defend JVDS in any posts?Exactly not 1!!!

      Boycot Aruba and Holland!!! Realise how dumb that sounds???Ofcourse you all entitld to your opinion and yes the Mods can handle the site as they want i just point out that i am al over the net on discussion forums and i never never saw on a normal site what happen here….if this was an islamitic forum it would be listed as a potential danger to society……but in your naivity you dont realise that whatever extreme group your belong to istn better then an other…anyway i am glad i see only few reaction every thread..JVDS seems to be popular 50 reactions mostly the same hardcore group of Lisa(with the Smith&wesson for her birthday included a bargain methaldetector) and the likes of Texascowboygrandfather i pitty those grandchildren.Other political threads sometimes get 0 responces….Rasmussen poll LOL i wonder who made those polls….FOX news?
      Btw Larry as me is frightend by the reactions shouted here thats the truth.
      Justice will be done he is inside now maybe its time to look in a mirror and ask yourself if you are the perfect person on earth.I know i am not!

      THIS IS WHAT LARRY WROTE that John agreed with

      Larry on June 21st, 2010 8:47 am
      Lisa, you and a few others here are nearly as frightening as van der Sloot.
      I accept that he murdered Stefany and probably Natalee. I believe that his father and others were probably involved, and may have been traffickers in young girls – pimps, kidnappers and murderers.
      Having said that, Lisa, you sound both vicious and stupid.

    89. Sam on June 22nd, 2010 10:41 pm

      #80 – he’s “surviving in prison”? Good. that means he’s have a bad time.

      Dunno why, having to poop in a putrid hole below his putrid sink.

      He should be thankful for a sink and a waste hole. He doesn’t appreciate anything.

    90. Sam on June 22nd, 2010 10:47 pm

      #86 Sven Interesting. Didn’t know he sold it. Yea, how did he buy it?

      No answers for you, but u r making all of us think and……research.

    91. brie. on June 23rd, 2010 2:52 am

      I don’t believe Joran signed a confession that says anything about them returning him to the Netherlands…Anita shows up in Peru and brings her nonsense with her as usual,,,

    92. john alonso on June 23rd, 2010 4:29 am

      @Lisa….sry i mixes you up with Brenda for the birthday gifts….really honnest appology’s.

      @my friend Scott..if you accuse somebody you should back it up and not hide with “you dont have the time” thats a lame excuse its easy to do, everything i wrote you can find back easy not so many recent threads about JVDS…if you dont have the time i will ask the Mod myself to post my PRO yoran posts or the one i said he been framed by somebody!!!!I am sure every poster have a file with his post so not to big of a job.Unfortenly for you those post are not made by me.That i did defend Anita you can accuse me of,well defend is a big word all i wanted to say is that non of us know her and that i can place myself in the place of a parent with a child thats a monster..parents have the tendencie to defend there children even if its clear there is no defence possible thats what i said.But again NEVER did i defend JVDS or did i say that he even could be framed.

      BTW the lynch offer i made was to speak on your level i am sure thats something you would love to do…but i am so sure of myself that i do offer this but to talk in your words we can put money on it as well, well i geuss you not gone pay anyway but if you accept the bet lets do it the MOD can escrow the money i am ready to send now.Are you???

      @Sam i will answer your question….he did buy it with money he got from the journalist who made programs with him and btw open a business like this in thailand cost you maybe 10k so its not that we talking about big money.How i know this?Before i get another insult that i know him(no i dont) or even as far that i know wher natalee is or even helped him with…nice accusations(i never been in Aruba)Well maybe i do follow the JVDS case closer then you all might think.Not saying that i know it all….

      I did have to change my opinion about Anita because a poster here made me aware of something as a person she indeed made some harsh comments who been deeply insulting and totaly out of line for the Holloway family.(that she stand behind her son as a mother i can not blame her i am sorry)
      SM: Anita the enabler … thank you papa and mama Sloot for inflicting your sociopath son on the World.

    93. Lisa in Maryland on June 23rd, 2010 5:44 am


      He probably used his gambling habit to fund it. It was a coffee shop and the Euro would stretch far in Thialand.

      Paulus just died in Feb. (Only 4 months) his Estate may not be settled yet. Sometimes it takes months to years to settle an Estate. That may bewhy they are broke.

    94. Miss-Underestimated on June 23rd, 2010 7:22 am

      This is laughable…Joran is really in denial of Peru. This is another whole ball of wax for the Sporter, but he thinks he can use the same tactics he used in Aruba.

      Thought came to me. Anita, are you saying Joran is sick in head to ward off any implications he has about you with Natalee?

      In the words of Reverend White…..”the chickens has come home to roost”

    95. Scott on June 23rd, 2010 10:46 am

      #92 are you blind? Have you not read what others have done for me and posted the dribble that you type on your keyboard from past threads posted about this? Look up idiot!

      And it’s not an excuse…it’s called I don’t want to waste my time on some insignficant non-American when I know what you have posted in the past. My memory is like a steel trap and proof of your flip flopping has already been proved by others.

      You are a total tool with no friends who thinks he knows everything about this case going all the way back to 2005 when he KILLED Natalee. Where was your punk a$$ back then? Loser!

    96. crossbow on June 23rd, 2010 10:52 am

      Didn’t Joran tap someone’s debit card (Netherlands) for about $6,000.00 sometime last year before he bought the coffee shop?

      Inability to keep good records is also an indication of bi polarism.

      So he has an Oedipus Complex.
      He is a mysognist.
      Dave said Jorn was a male pimp.
      Homosexual tendencies.
      Now possibly Bi Polarism.
      Uses drugs.
      Joran is totally out of touch with reality.
      The prison population is going to have a field day with him; if he survives.
      He said he wanted to be a player and gangster; well he certainly does have the publicity and notariety.
      Anita give up on him; take care of Butch and Val least you unleashed a trio of monsters on this earth.
      I was on Aruba last October right outside the Sloots house. Apparently the Sloots were on vacation; anyone know where?

    97. Lisa in Maryland on June 23rd, 2010 12:36 pm

      Didn’t you know that John Alonso is the most SUPERIOR & INTELLIGENT poster here? Why because he says so!

      Didn’t you notice that he has all the answers and his facts are strait? (The rest of us have been sitting here frustrated for the past 5 yrs. with our worthless opinions until the “Light of John” flashed in our heads and gave us a new sense of understanding! Why because he speaks Dutch (God Given Power) where as we the meek and powerless know nothing!

      This is why he has to argued and put down Red, Maggie, Brenda, NGBoston, Mike, Texas Grandfather, You, your father, Myself and others because our opinions don’t count because only the “Light of John” can reveal true “FACTS” of the matter.

      Why? Because he has such God Given Powers and we about as dumb as a box of rocks!

      We should afford him every priviledge of comment like changing his mind ever other day. I mean For Crying out Loud he’s ENTITLED to that at least!

      Humm – Sense of Superiority, Intellegence, Priviledge & Entitlement and speaks Dutch!

      Who does that remind you of?

      (Don’t get offended John I’m simply asking a question.)oops! I’m being PERINOID again – I must move toward the LIGHT Only


    98. Lisa in Maryland on June 23rd, 2010 12:43 pm

      You can’t tell John to stick it where the Sun doesn’t shine because he’s a Beacon unto Himself!

    99. john alonso on June 23rd, 2010 1:02 pm

      @ scott ..i did read what others did post…i didnt see what you accused me of…i do see a new post of you that shows who you are…. “I don’t want to waste my time on some insignficant non-American” just WAW man you really should look in the mirror ans ask yourself who is stupid your just an ordinary racist!! “My memory is like a steel trap” WHere where did i Defend JVDS???Even in your “helpers”posts get me one sentence where i did……where is the post i did say he was framed by somebody???Where is it????

      You are a simple man Scott if you got some class you would back up your stuff or make an excuse to me but i am sure you feel to good to do that.

      Again WHERE did i defend JVDS and WHERE is my post about saying JVDS is framed?????

      YOUR lame excuses are not good enough to show who you really are…your last racist responce was the ulimate prove!!!!!

      To end with the bible….Mattheus5:3 read it it fitts you well.

      3 things you should keep in mind….

      1)Beati pauperes spiritu….
      2)Conscia mens recti, famae mendacia ridet…
      3)Errare humanum est. Perseverare diabolicum…

      I am sure latin is not your strongest but this dumb non U.S citizen did some study’s when he was young…. write me Scotty boy and lets meet…i am not a coward and openly give my e-mail if you want i even post my adress…and you???

    100. Lisa in Maryland on June 23rd, 2010 1:05 pm

      Yes, Miss-Underestimated #94

      I’ll bet you are right! She has reason to be scared, she knows her son – no telling what he will say next or when he will start to turn and then on who?

      He’s as trapped as his cell mate the rat with no escape and those walls are going to start closing in around him. When the reality of that hits him we’ll see where the finger points because he will never take the responsibility upon himself.

      The fault he find here is “his fault for allowing the FBI to trap him” and as we all know the Van der Sloot song and dance “Tomorrow will be another story”!

    101. john alonso on June 23rd, 2010 1:29 pm

      @lisa…where did i change my opion??? yes i did listen to a poster it even could be you i dont remember and did some more research on Anita’s reactions in Aruba…it are only the dumb who stay by an opinion even if its clear that it is wrong…..For the rest from my very first post i stated that i disgust JVDS…that i speak Dutch have nothing to do with the whole thing…i only told that i got the given info(about the lawyer saying he get him free) from a dutch paper that spoke with the lawyer.An no i am not Dutch so i am not the brother off like i read before.

      Indeed Lisa i did argue with some of you the reason for that is for the extreme nature of some of those people’s posts…And forgive me i have the weak and stupid tendencie to argue with extremists of all nature…Funny thing is that if you would read right i do agree on the big lines being “yes JVDS is a monster and he should be punished the hardst possible way legali”.And there it stops…for me no killings rapings in jail or tortures etc. for confessions.

      Where is the theory of Scotts father about ‘the hitman”? A simple search would keep nonsence like this from the net because next you know its taken for a fact.btw i dont think i said something about his father i am not sure tough maybe in my anger on Scott his accusations i did but i doubt it.

      I am happy this board is not a representation of the U.S citizen…i was lucky enough to meet alot of people of your country and most where really nice people..but ya like i said before its a bit extreme over here…

      @ Scott do you where a white cape in weekends the KKK one?Just a question something that came in my mind.

    102. Lisa in Maryland on June 23rd, 2010 5:07 pm

      John you fool that white cape comment is EXACTLY what pisses people off and then you are OFFENDED by their return remarks!

      Your A Hit and Run Artist!

      You can’t enter a room call people out on the carpet with insulting remarks and not expect them to pull the rug out from under your feet!

      No one can take you seriously because you keep calling us names or claiming that we are extreamists.

      For Crying out Loud you don’t have to attack every last person that doesn’t agree with you or that you don’t agree with.

      Some people say things on here not as pure fact but just as an example or just to relate feelings.

      You came in here sounding like a Joran supporter, backing Anita telling the Moderators how to run the show and bashing the general population.What do expect that we are going to welcome that with open arms this is a private forum and that is not the general concensis.

      You need to apologise, especially to Scott and call a TRUCE! Then post but just be aware that no one here is going to put up with anymore s–t!

      So if you don’t want monkeys on your back don’t stir the barrel!

    103. john alonso on June 23rd, 2010 7:46 pm

      @Lisa quoting Scott” And it’s not an excuse…it’s called I don’t want to waste my time on some insignficant non-American ”

      How i have to feel about this remark???

      And altough i am human enough to give apologises online but as well IRL i will not against Scott i am sry…the remark is harsh true and most prob. he isnt that bad. But he was the one that give a racist remark or did i read that wrong?

      If i accuse somebody like he did i would back it up and not make lame excuses..but you fail to see the other side Lisa..i am sure you did look for posts where i did say that JVDS was framed…but you couldent find them and you dont remeber them as well.I am sure you would be glad to put them on the board…be honnest …you did post some other posts who are btw when you read them good arent pro VDS. so not sure what the purpose was…Maggie was honnest and classy enough to point the truth out.

    104. Scott on June 24th, 2010 6:44 am

      Calling you a non-American is not a racist remark you race baiting fool. I never said you were affiliated with any extreme racial group such as you did to me which proves beyond a doubt that you are the racist punk!

      I don’t have to back it up. Others here, those who support victim’s and their rights, have shed the light on your flip flopping and the fact that you are a FRAUD. My Maryland friend, Lisa, has posted some of your posts already which prove my claim about you. You are a blind tool. Like I told you before, I have a LIFE, unlike you who probably sits in his mommy’s basement on his laptop like the sissy boy Joran. I don’t have the time to go back and research your comments because you are insignificant to me, here and probably in your own little world.

      You just contradicted yourself idiot boy on a newer thread just yesterday…LOL…about him being tricked by police.

      Maggie went back a couple days and found some of your flip flopping. People here see through your ways and the way you operate.

      You did some study’s? LOL.. Yeah you sound “real” intelligent. Who cares if you know some archaic language? I studied Latin in high school as well… to know the roots of some of our American words. Whip di do. And now you are going to quote a bible? You must be Joran because prisoners usually read the bible. Don’t preach to me loser.

      So, my dad, a decorated retired police officer, who worked homicide and has more manhood in his pinky then you do in your whole being, who has EXPERIENCE in this kind of stuff (a decade and then some) had a theory which could be true but of course because it’s on the “internet” makes it true?!? LOL! You don’t know what is actually going on in that prison and who is around him and who this guy actually is…It’s not been proven as a fact that this guy is an actual hitman. And there have been other decorated and famous homicide detectives on other shows who have also said that could be possible. Keep believing what your internet searches come up with.

      BTW, how could we meet? I thought you were from Peru? Like I said before I wouldn’t come to your country if you paid me a $1M dollars. There are nicer places in the world visit; nicer places right here in the GREATEST country in the world; THE USA b*tch!

      Lisa, he’s a hit and run loser. And what parts of Maryland are you from? I live in Southern Maryland, ever heard of Calvert County? There’s a clue for you Johnny boy…don’t make threats you can’t back up fool. I have a whole cabinet full of artillery waiting for you in my home.

      You know it’s funny how race baiting losers such as yourself attack me as a KKK person when in fact, my family EVER owned slaves. They came here from Europe and worked in factories, the lowest level jobs at the time, having to change their last name in order to get jobs; and made something of themselves. In fact, my family existence here is only 4 generations old. So **** off!

      I tell you what, come on down and meet some of my country boy friends; named left and right fists. I’ll have you tap out in less than 5 minutes.

      You claim you support Joran’s jailing, but at the same time you make excuses for him and have feelings for his mommy (who helped cover up Natalee’s murder) and that he was tricked by police and you clearly said it’s possible he was set up. You even claimed because you said you were from Peru, that anybody would do anything for $50 here. You’re a FRAUD.

      BTW, like I said in your contradictory post from yesterday about how you were the first to say he was tricked by police, which any moron could know he was going to say, you’ve been labeled as a TROLL! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHAHAA. FRAUD! TROLL!

    105. Frederic Nitz on June 24th, 2010 6:50 am

      I think it is somewhat sad what Joran has taken from the rest of his family. If my last name was van der Sloot, I would change it to “Normal”.

    106. Frederic Nitz on June 24th, 2010 7:19 am

      John Alonso: Give it up. You are just making it worse.

    107. Lisa in Maryland on June 24th, 2010 8:11 am

      Hi Scott,

      Calvert County -WOW! My husband was born & raised in Pasadena! His Uncle is a retired PG County Cop. I was living in Ellicott City when I started posting on SM.

      We use to drive down to Calvert on the weekends to explore and eat steamed crabs! Chesapeake Beach, Cove Point, Solomon’s – My friend’s daughter goes to St. Mary’s College! I love that part of Maryland it’s beautiful! Small world!

      I was working for NASA in College Park on a contract but the contract ran out in 2009 right around the time the “Teflon Leprechaun” took over and raised the taxes so we decided to move out of state but, we still have family there and come home for vacation. Since I started posting on SM so long ago as Lisa in MD I just kept the ID but we live on Old Hickory Lake right outside of Nashville, TN now. My hearts still in MD though!

      I think we need to move on from John Alonso and just ignore him. It’s amazing that with his extensive skills in language he has missed the point of communication. He seems to think everything he reads from the media is fact and he doesn’t seem to understand that his tone or “writing style” and insults make him sound like a Joran supporter even though he claims to not be.

      Let’s just move to the newest post – read you there!

    108. john alonso on June 24th, 2010 12:56 pm

      @ Scott LOL quote” You even claimed because you said you were from Peru,”never said something about 50$ you really mixing people up with your strong happens its human so did i with the gun and metaldetector betwen Lisa and Brenda if i am right….at least i admit my mistake.

      Calling me a non american is OFCOURSE ok because you are right about that….but saying you dont want to waste time on a non american is a whole differnet sentence i think.And that after you accused that person of something that you should be able to prove black and silence me forever.

      WHERE DID I SAY THAT? LOL again nowhere you know why?because i am not living in Peru and i am not Peruvuan.So why would i say that i am?your imagination is really much better then your how did you call it?…”:My memory is like a steel trap” Yep thats how you said it….Your a joke Scott really you have no idea what you talking about and not man enough to admit you made a mistake…”again”.OOPS.

      About my job….I do have alot of time if i want true….as a hotelowner i am my own boss having about 20 people working as staff you right about that BUT i not run it from my moms basement tough.

      You solve discussion with weapons and right and left fists how surprising another intelligent remark Scott.
      btw i never made a thread to you ad contrary you did threaten me in your last post….I really have no intention to argue with people like you IRL i could easy end up like Natalee and Flores…at least if you welcome me like you stated “I have a whole cabinet full of artillery waiting for you in my home.”thats a tough boy….told you alredy my door is never locked its even wide open at night and dont have any weapons…the greatest country on earth mbn if you need to have a entire arsenal of weapons to feel safe.Maybe you never traveled in your life then its normal you think you living in the greatest country on earth….Well ya you dont wana go for 1 Milion $ to Peru or Mexico or any 3rd world country..maybe give it a try ones and open your eyes dont be scared.Did you ever travel outside your country? Just asking and so yes where?Not that i expect an honnest answer hidden after your safe keyboard at home nobody knows who you are anyway….your just Scott my name is John Alonso thats right….you get my e-mail and if you like my adress as well i am not hidding and not a liar….you?

    109. Frederic Nitz on June 26th, 2010 5:09 am
    110. Leah on July 2nd, 2010 1:30 pm

      Has anyone thought that this “Columbian Hitman” may actually be an undercover cop? They have jailhouse snitc hes in America, n there have been lots of cases here in America where cops have learned info by placing an undercover with a suspect. The “hitman” is young, good-looking, n would be a perfect person to put in isolation with Van Der Scuz. I think (n hope n pray) that he is!

    111. Yanky on January 26th, 2011 3:54 am


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