Joran van der Sloot: Aruban Authorities Speak with those in Peru


Yesterday, Aruban authorities spoke with Peruvian authorities about meeting with Joran van der Sloot. Joran claims he is willing to divulge now where Natalee Holloway is buried and exactly what happened that night 5 years ago.

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Why should anyone believe what Joran has to say now? Dave Holloway and Tim Miller are in Aruba right now ready to search any area Joran suggests.

At the same time there are rumors that Joran’s attorney has resigned (see translation here).

Aruban authorites will be on their way to Peru soon:


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    65 Responses to “Joran van der Sloot: Aruban Authorities Speak with those in Peru”

    1. meemee on June 16th, 2010 11:18 am

      why would aruba believe him now. they did nothing, NOTHING. This is urines way of being in control.
      do not let him go to aruba, they will set him free, he will murder again. I hope if aruba comes to talk to him, the peru authorities will be present and will understand everything being said. Urine LIES
      but he couldnt lie in Peru because of the evidence.
      In aurba , DADDY took care of the evidence and Aruba helped Him. URINE NEEDS TO DO HIS TIME IN PERU, THEN LET THE U.S.A. HAVE HIM.

    2. MiMi on June 16th, 2010 11:20 am

      Van der Sloot questioning not likely until August, Aruba says

    3. Da Woods on June 16th, 2010 11:32 am

      I did in fact read that his Lawyer dropped the case yesterday in The Post(NY)

    4. woods on June 16th, 2010 12:10 pm

      “Aruba also will have to wait to see what information may be contained in a laptop computer Peruvian authorities confiscated when they arrested van der Sloot, Blanken said. The FBI will obtain that information from Peru and then share it with Aruban investigators, Blanken said.”

      The Peruvian officials are definitely not stupid. They are partnering and sharing info with the FBI first for one very good reason. They clearly know Aruba officials covered up Natalee’s murder for their good friend PAULUS. This is not going to happen again! Stephany’s blood is on their hands!

    5. Sam on June 16th, 2010 1:17 pm

      No questioning until August? That’s good news! That will give him a little time to settle into and enjoy his new digs.
      Wonder why Aruba’s not dropping all immediately to rescue the scum from himself again. Maybe Peru LE and/or inmates will have him softened up by then. Maybe they’ll find so much info on his computer they won’t need him to tell them anything. Can’t believe a word he says, anyway.
      Those holes in the floor for toilets? Does the inmate have to empty them once a week or are they hooked up to a water system?

    6. wolfgang on June 16th, 2010 1:23 pm

      #4 woods..I hope you are right. I heard Stephany’s brother say on NG yesterday that the family doesn’t care if he does his time in Aruba jail and I sort of think Peru wouldn’t mind not having to baby sit him to keep him from being “killed” as he fears. I just hope he does have to stay in Peru where there are no special comforts for him so he can think about what he has done.

    7. Ed H on June 16th, 2010 1:39 pm

      Aruba must 1st answer to the world why they let this murderer go free to do it again. Then they can talk to Peruvian officials.

    8. Katerina on June 16th, 2010 1:44 pm

      I heard on one of the morning programs that Anita VDS wont be going to Peru because she has had death threats. I wonder how she feels to be in fear for her life. Maybe it will give her one little smidgen of and idea of what it felt like to Natalee and Stephany as they took their last breaths at the hands of that pig that she raised.

    9. Katerina on June 16th, 2010 1:46 pm

      Keep meaning to mention that Geraldo mentioned very briefly the other night that another son of Paulus (not with Anita) is a big time drug trafficker in the Netherlands. Haven’t ever seen this mentioned anywhere else though, has anyone here heard it?

    10. Kevin on June 16th, 2010 1:57 pm

      Aruban officials are doing nothing but trying to “save face”. All of those corrupt politicians are running scared just thinking about what Urine might have on his computer or might say (lie about). Good riddance. They covered it up from day 1 !! And don’t feel sorry for Urine’s mother…..she was an enabler. She needs to worry about raising her other 2 sons who ARE NOT killers.

    11. meemee on June 16th, 2010 2:07 pm

      #4 woods, lets hope this is the case. I dont think the peruvian officials are dumb, they have been very careful with urine. Lets just hope he goes into general poplulation before august. he will sing like a canary. Now the Kalpoes actually have a chance to come clean. But i dont think there is one honest person in aruba. I dont think Mr. Flores is one to be messed with, he seems quiet but i bet underneath he would like a few minutes alone with mr. sloot.

    12. ThEhApPsTeR on June 16th, 2010 2:39 pm

      Hasn’t Joran heard of the story “The Boy Who Cried Wolf?” Pretty kindergarten-esque story for a 22 year old not to get.

    13. Miss-Underestimated on June 16th, 2010 2:44 pm

      Aruba is on the friggin hot seat. Let’s remember that Peru immediately called Joran a “serial killer” Aruban pigs stinking to the high heavens. Aruba is waiting to see who Joran implicates from the Fat Five….Dompig, Vanderstraaten, Ms.. K. Jaansen, Judge Witt. and of course the Jorans Daddy. Aruba is posturing so when Jr. squeals, they can tuck tails and RUN>>>>>>hopefully to Peru

    14. on June 16th, 2010 2:58 pm

      Katerina on June 16th, 2010 1:46 pm: Scared Monkeys covered this long ago. Can’t remember the drug trafficker’s name but he was allegedly Paulus’ son before Paulus married Anita.

      As far as Aruba: they know what happened and have known for 5 years. Whether they actually know the location of Natalee’s body, who knows. They certainly didn’t run around painting desert rocks for their health.

      I have little confidence that Aruba will do anything but bury any information they gain regarding Natalee Holloway. They simply don’t care.
      SM: Lorenzo van Rijn is the one he was referring to. There has never been proof he was PVDS illegitimate son but that was the accusation. We did see a photo of Joran in April of this year where Lorenzo’s van was in an accident and Joran was at the scene. (klaasend)

    15. wolfgang on June 16th, 2010 3:52 pm

      #5, Sam: I’ve been wondering the same thing about those holes in the floor. I hope that doesn’t mean we are at the 3rd grade obsession with poop! Seems like a fair question, what happens there…

    16. ThEhApPsTeR on June 16th, 2010 4:10 pm

      In my experience with the “squatter”, you have to pour water into it to wash it down a little, but it does not really “flush”..just kinda gurgles..lots of coutries have these as their standard toilets..Maybe some of the fancier ones flush, but let’s hope his doesn’t. (I am feeling pretty angry toward Joran and all people who literally get away with murder? Why do some families seemingly BREED and cultivate these little mosters? )

    17. Roxy on June 16th, 2010 4:11 pm
      Sandra K is his mother.
      He was the accomplice with the boat.
      Believed to be ‘Daury’ by Native Arubans
      He is a known underworld figure on Aruba.

      SM: That website was full of errors. SandraK is not his mother and the photo they have on their website is not Lorenzo. (klaasend)

    18. Roxy on June 16th, 2010 4:11 pm
    19. Roxy on June 16th, 2010 4:31 pm

      Mama Sloot wants the boy to be tried in the Netherlands because she fears he won’t get a fair trial (TRANSLATION: He will not get off scott free as he did for his first KNOWN murder)

      Good luck with that one. The Flores family appears calm and nonchalant, but I bet there is a fierce response below the surface there….they can’t wait for the cameras to go away and the boy to wind up in the general population where they will be sure that the boy feels their wrath.
      …they have HUGE connections in Peru, HUGE! They are the equal to like say…Ted Turner….if Ted were likable enough to have a family around him (sorry Ted)but minus the dumb remarks (sorry again Ted)

      Dont’s know what it says (anyone?) but here is Mama Sloot 4 days ago…is that a large hankie she is hanging on to? She looks like she is at Bingo…wish I could read it.
      SM: That photo was taken either June 10th or 11th, 2010 at the end of the Aruba International Film Festival. See Anita and Valentijn thought it was more important to be partying with Richard Gere and the rest of the “stars” than it was to go to Peru for their murdering son. (klaasend)

    20. Sam on June 16th, 2010 4:40 pm

      #8 – Thx for the info. Was wondering about her going there. Not surprised about the death threats. Wonder how she feels not being about to see her offspring? At least she has a chance – he’s still alive (at this point, anyway).

      #10 – yes, I bet ALE wants that computer real bad. I look forward to hearing what they find on it. Run of the mill porn will probably be the least of it. Who’s sweating bullets in Arubia over it?

      #15 – LOL! Glad to hear it. Now I don’t feel so strange being curious about it. I’m hoping he has to clean it out himself.

      He must think he’s died and gone to hell – or wishes he could be in hell instead. His dad will be there to greet him when his time comes.

      He’s still in shock, I imagine. His situation hasn’t sunk in fully. If he does sleep, the screams and cries of the other inmates wake him. When he wakes up, he wishes he was having a nightmare.

      He thought he was too smart to be caught. He probably blames Stephany for where he is.

    21. meemee on June 16th, 2010 4:56 pm

      he deserves hell

    22. Lisa in Maryland on June 16th, 2010 4:59 pm

      No – Not Poop Again!

      Kevin – you meant “Save ARSS” right!

      Miss-Understood, I like that “The FAT Five”

      Woods, you are so right -

      Peru is not stupid and if what you posted is correct about them sharing info with the FBI and then the FBI can share info with ARUBA then that just proves how really smart they are.

      I don’t think we need to worry about Peru turning him over to Aruba. I think Peru might just dangle that in front of him to get some evidence but I don’t think they will follow through.

      Once Joran is convicted of Stephany’s death and they turn him over to general population to serve his sentence I really doubt that they are going to care less about what happens to him or what he tries to negotiate. And if he is murdered at Castro, Castro they will just say oh well it happens! Don’t Do the Crime if you can’t do the time, especially in Peru

      It’s funny becaus it looks like ARUBA is chomping at the bitt to get to him while at the same time trying to appear non interested. It’s like one of those old cartoon’s where the villian quickly tip-toes and stops while trying to sneak up on the victim.


    23. Urine Deep Now! on June 16th, 2010 5:54 pm

      “Those holes in the floor for toilets? Does the inmate have to empty them once a week or are they hooked up to a water system?”

      Urine will be given a straw for whenever he gets thirsty.

    24. Urine Deep Now! on June 16th, 2010 6:02 pm

      “See Anita and Valentijn thought it was more important to be partying with Richard Gere and the rest of the “stars” than it was to go to Peru for their murdering son.”

      I wonder if Gere introduced Anita to his “leetle friend”, the gerbil?

    25. Urine Deep Now! on June 16th, 2010 6:12 pm

      One thing I find unsettling is when I see shots of Urine with Peruvian police, he looks way too calm and in control, and the people around him look so passive. Hopefully it’s a MUCH different look for all, off-camera.

      I do take comfort in seeing the shots of Urine being transported from a vehicle to the courthouse, where onlookers seem to want to drag the POS Urine through the streets and pummel him to the next life.

      I wonder which mindset will prevail? Hopefully the latter, while in Castro Castro.

    26. Lisa in Maryland on June 16th, 2010 6:19 pm

      Fair Trial! Fair! Fair? There’s that word again. What ever does it mean?? I don’t think the Holloway’s or the Romirez’s know what it means. Is it something you can buy? Anita and Joran seem to think so but guess what??

      Their Broke! Too Bad – Game Over!

    27. USS Yorktown on June 16th, 2010 7:08 pm

      You can’t trust Joran van der Snake. Why should we believe this scumbag. He may as well call himself Osama bin Laden while he is at it. They deserve each other.

    28. Sam on June 16th, 2010 7:29 pm

      #23 UDN – Good one! LOL

      BTW, looks like sloot’s gonna get a lawyer; maybe not a good one, tho. His last client, the ex-president, is in jail.

    29. Sam on June 16th, 2010 7:37 pm

      Apparently, they judge on the Bumps on the Head theory – phreneology? His “beady eyes” have done him in. I also like how they referred to a coerced confession as hardly a “novel concern.” The picture in this article shows a police woman (I think that’s who she is) in a skirt 2-3″ above her knees and high-heels…shades of Honey West! Babes on the Force.

      And the hits just keep on coming!

    30. cattys on June 16th, 2010 8:02 pm

      I wonder how he feels when people want to kill him instead of hug and kiss him like they did in Aruba!!

    31. cattys on June 16th, 2010 8:13 pm

      He is going to blackmail Aruba saying “get me out of here or I will tell I’ll all I know about the corruption”….

    32. Pat in Alabama on June 16th, 2010 8:24 pm

      Hey Joran!

      Wolf! Wolf! There’s a wolf in my cell!

    33. Susan on June 16th, 2010 8:48 pm

      Well, let’s just hope and pray that Peruvian authorities will not be gullible or swayed or stupid enough to allow Urine van der Slut to go back to Aruba to serve his time in an Aruban prison. If that is one of the subjects the two countries are going to discuss, Peru best stand up and say HELL no!! Please Peru, don’t let ALE and the Netherlands take Urine back to Aruba!! Urine van der Slut MUST STAY in the PERUVIAN prison for what he did to Stephany. If Urine survives his time in Peru, his next step should be in the USA. If the cold blooded murder goes back to Aruba, he will be set free again, never having to pay for what he did to Natalee and Stephany.

    34. ayfit on June 16th, 2010 8:52 pm

      Leave jr. where he is! Where the soap gets dropped daily. To send him to aruba would be to turn him loose again. Things have come around. Let the process play through.

    35. the best on June 16th, 2010 9:45 pm

      VDS is running that prison. no doubt about it. he is El Rey!

    36. Ray on June 17th, 2010 2:49 am

      If you give some people enough rope they will HANG themself. Looks like it has happened.

    37. Ray on June 17th, 2010 2:58 am

      I wonder how the people who risk their jobs to protect Joran are feeling now.

    38. wolfgang on June 17th, 2010 8:15 am

      37, Ray…Risk their SOULS as well. They are scared out of their minds that he will tell the truth about who covered his tracks!! That group may be the one that has him “offed” in jail.

    39. Lisa in Maryland on June 17th, 2010 9:45 am

      Catty’s #31 – I sure hope so! Expose those B..tards!

      I hear conflicting story’s
      1) Is Anita in Peru via the media?

      2) Did they send Aruban Officials to speak to Joran or will they have to wait until August?

      Does anyone know the truth on these??

    40. Sven on June 17th, 2010 1:03 pm

      Catty’s #31: Anita still not in Peru (but if and when trip will be financed and taped by Dutch TV. Aruba says maybe they will drop by in August – maybe, maybe not.

      Anita and Valentijn with Richard Gere – sure that was recent and not last year?

    41. Sven on June 17th, 2010 1:05 pm

      Roxy: Are you sure that film festival pic was this year?

      To All: Full written confession in English translation is at:

    42. NGBoston on June 17th, 2010 1:28 pm

      Lisa in MD—Re: Anita Van Der Sloots location:

      Yes, there have been conflicting reports that she is going to/or already in Peru.

      Haven’t a clue but I could venture a guess she is a COWARD and would never step foot there until some of this hostility towards her special little Sporter dissipates.

      She is reportedly “broke” as well. Don’t believe that at all. Yet, since she is such a damn liar, she will go around crying that she is or hiding her money is Swiss Bank Accounts so that she doesn’t have to pay the upcoming hefty legal bill for Joran’s Attornies fees.

      They all like, and they all make me wanna’ puke. Like Katablog said earlier- I think much of America really wants Joran to just go away and stay away but not until Justice is served first for Natalee Holloway & her family.

    43. NGBoston on June 17th, 2010 1:29 pm

      The spam Monster has struck again. Oh, well.

    44. wiccadoll on June 17th, 2010 2:26 pm

      Momma Sloot complained about the Holloway’s following Joran everywhere he went.She was angry about it in 2005.How dare they wanting their daughter’s body back.She is just like her son Joran. No one should do things like that to her goood son. How dare she say I’m scared for my sons life in Peru. What about the two young ladies he killed,And if anyone out there thinks that she didn’t know that he killed Natalee you’re wrong. The call Joran made to a friend the night Natalee went missing to help dispose of the body,was not a friend it was to his father and mother. His father was a piece of sh.. too. and so is she. Pops rotting in hell and is waiting for the rest of the family.Let the chips fall, he’s a big boy, he killed those girls so let him be killed in the Peruvian prison.Oh and by the way, does anyone see him smiling now like he was in Aruba.Aruban officials has there day coming. There will be death threats flying all over Aruba. Those people made All Arubans look like Sh.t.

    45. wiccadoll on June 17th, 2010 2:43 pm

      You know some people are still saying poor Anita, she lost her husband, and now her eldest son.SO….! Now she has to find money for a defence lawyer.But that won’t help Joran. There is to much evidence againist him. What she needs to do is get his buial plot ready. God dosen’t have to come down to punish.She needs to save that defence money for his funeral. I hope they show that on the news.I’ll be watching that event.

    46. Lisa in Maryland on June 17th, 2010 3:01 pm
    47. brie. on June 17th, 2010 3:55 pm

      I doubt if Stephanie was even on the computer…everyone wants it because they think there is something on it due to what Joran said…but then he killed her before he went out for coffee…so she wasn’t on it while he was gone…

      Just what does Anita think she is going to accomplish going to Peru…????

    48. wolfgang on June 17th, 2010 4:06 pm

      #39 Lisa…I heard Anita is coming to Peru tomorrow; and Aruban Officials must file all types of paperwork and it will be late August or early Sept. before they can come and talk to Joran in Peru. This was on TV program.

    49. Maggie on June 17th, 2010 4:24 pm

      In Exclusive ’20/20′ Interview, Melody Granadillo Says She’s Now Scared Looking Into First Love’s Eyes

      Before the world knew him as a notorious alleged killer of young women, Melody Granadillo knew Joran van der Sloot as a personal prince charming.
      “He was amazing. … He was romantic,” the 23-year-old said of her former boyfriend and first love, in an exclusive interview to air on “20/20″ Friday. “It was very playful, very honest. We could sit and talk for hours. We liked looking into each other’s eyes.”

      The couple met at a mutual friend’s birthday party in Aruba in October 2003 and dated for seven months. The 16-year-old quickly fell head over heels in love with 17-year-old van der Sloot — the man she calls “Chi Chi” or “Mr. Wiggles.”

      In the “20/20″ interview, Granadillo describes van der Sloot as sweet and charming. She recalls how for her 17th birthday, he surprised her with her favorite candy. “I told him I liked red Skittles … and what he did was he made this vase at school, went and bought a lot of Skittles packets, he took all the red ones out … and as a present I got a vase full of red Skittles,” Granadillo said. “He did things like that … he was real thoughtful.”

      The teen saved everything from her dashing Dutch suitor, including a diary they shared, filled with pages upon pages of pictures, cards, emails and love poems.

      In the diary, Granadillo, who said they discussed marriage and kids, writes of one of their first sexual encounters: “We fooled around a lot. He wanted a lap dance. I barely gave it. It was an awesome night. Romantic and fun. Also, I gave him a hickey.”

      Van der Sloot’s Web of Lies
      But while van der Sloot was playing Romeo, Granadillo says she learned that their romance was built on a web of lies.

      “He would lie for no apparent reason at all … and if you caught him at it … he would double down and be even more serious about the story,” she said.

      Granadillo claims he told her that he was also a virgin, but was really a promiscuous playboy who cheated on her with multiple women.

      Despite their break-up, Granadillo never lost contact with van der Sloot — staying in touch through the disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway and up until his now-infamous trip to Peru.

      Granadillo talks to Cuomo about the Holloway’s disappearance and her contact with van der Sloot during his trip to Peru where he met and allegedly killed 21-year-old Stephany Flores.

      With van der Sloot now awaiting trial in a Peruvian prison, Granadillo says while she doesn’t regret their experience together, the man whose eyes she loved looking into is long gone.
      “It’s not connectable. You can’t connect that. It’s not the same person,” she said. “You see he’s hurt. You see he’s in trouble.”

      Watch the exclusive interview on “20/20″ Friday at 10 p.m. ET

      One of the dumb comments on the site..

      He was NOT born a killer is what my post should have read. He’s not a monster either. Natalie accidentally died and he didn’t want to be blamed for her death so he covered it up and lied about it. That doesn’t make you a monster or a killer, but a scared 17-year-old. Stephany he killed out of desperation because he felt he had no choice. He killed her to save himself. Self preservation doesn’t make you a monster either.
      Posted by:
      A Minute Flate 1:48 PM

    50. Roxy on June 17th, 2010 4:24 pm

      Thank you SM!
      Sheesh what a Mother. no wonder the boy had issues.

    51. Maggie on June 17th, 2010 4:38 pm

      I heard Dave went home from Aruba.. They wanted to search the bird sanctuary, but Aruban authorities told them.. not right now. Wait until they go speak to Joran.. Reminds me of when Dompig went out on tv from January until March saying they had a good solid lead that Natalee was buried near the lighthouse..finally middle of March people came to search near the lighthouse.. 2 months…… One clown short of a circus.

      Also seen Jean Casarez showing Joran’s cell on tv.. She was in it.. had his bed with books on it..and a sink at the end of his cell. She said he had 2 visitors, a minister from the Netherlands who visits the Dutch prisoners about twice a year..and his attorney that was suppose to have quit..

    52. Lisa in Maryland on June 17th, 2010 5:28 pm


      concerning that comment on the post – Can you believe it that anyone would say he didn’t have a choice? What is wrong with these people? There is always a choice – To Murder or Not To Murder? Shouldn’t even be a question. Oh I forgot poor little Stepheny hit him in the head so he had to Murder her!

      Lies, Lies and More Lies! and like our good friend NGBoston pointed out – Stephany couldn’t have hit him in the left side of his head if he was sitting on her right and smashed her face in with his right elbow!

      Lies! Lies and More Lies!

    53. Susan on June 17th, 2010 7:17 pm

      #51 – Maggie, I hope you heard wrong in reference to Dave Holloway leaving Aruba again because ALE would not give him and Tim permission to search the bird sanctuary :-( How could Aruba turn Dave and Tim Miller away again???? Those Arubans are so cold and cruel!! No decency, no compassion, no sense of doing what is right, so on and so on!! ARUBA SUCKS!! NO MORE TOURISM FOR ARUBA OR THE NETHERLANDS!!



    54. david r on June 17th, 2010 8:30 pm

      We’ll never know. Even if the Kalpoes came clean, could you believe them? Joran you surely can’t believe. I’ll always believe Joran went after Natalee with rape and robbery as his motive. He learned from his dad that American girls were inferior to the Dutch, and were fair game. Worst parents ever.

    55. Sam on June 17th, 2010 8:31 pm

      #47 Brie – Anita wants to see her boy, kiss him on the lips again, and hold him. BARFOLA
      In his mind, it was all Stephany’s fault because she dissed him.

      Maggie, Granadillo sounds like a sicko. Some whacks are attracted to to murdering scum.

    56. blue bird on June 17th, 2010 9:16 pm

      Spotting and Dumping the Criminal Mind of the Netherlands.
      The Netherlands in its entirety is often referred to as Holland, although North and South Holland are actually only two of its twelve provinces. The word Dutch is used to refer to the people, the language, and anything pertaining to the Netherlands. This lexical difference between the noun and the adjective is an attribute of the English language that does not exist in the Dutch language.
      “…Consider Dostoevsky’s analysis of the criminal mind in his masterwork `Crime and Punishment’: The criminal assumption is that one has the right and authority to take or confiscate values earned by others so long as someone else has a need for those values.”
      The Criminal Mind is a mode of thinking that lays the responsibility for taking care of oneself onto others. A person with a criminal mind constantly projects that others owe him something — be it money, a job, happiness, love, or anything else of value.
      You Dutch, Joran Van der Sloot, and his entire family pretend that didn’t do anything wrong:
      You didn’t humiliated nobody, you didn’t steal nobody, you didn’t tortured nobody, you didn’t raped nobody, you didn’t killed nobody, you didn’t kidnapped nobody, and if all that wasn’t enough for more than 5 long years, you cynically sadistically, persistently are playing and torturing the family of your victim, and kidnapping in your soil the remains of Natalee. Aruba is your PROTECTORAT…
      This is the way a Criminal Mind can think. Even the worse criminal tries to justify his self before committing the crime. The same way you are thinking too.
      Joran, the mama boy, was spoiled and transformed in a monster by his family, Dutch Judiciary System and the Government. He thinks that is very smart, and is in full disregard for others. The Dutch Government covered up the Joran’s crime, protected and still is protecting him. They are as guilty as him for the Natalee disappearance in Aruba, and the murder of Stephany Flores in Peru. Netherlands and Dutch people are not able to enforce a SAFE and PREDICTABLE environment in Aruba.
      For me, a US citizen born and Raised in Europe, and for all American People, the Joran Van der Sloot will be the (ICON) THAT WILL REPRESENT NETHERLAND, AND MANY OF THE DUTCH PEOPLE WHO THINK LIKE HIM, for a long time.

    57. NGBoston on June 18th, 2010 5:45 am

      SM: Can you confirm that Tim Miller & DH have been sent away from Aruba again?

      If that is true, any details? How frustrating! The thing I always found odd was the pics and video of Arubans out washing rocks, then spray painting/marking some rocks on the Island (near Lighthouse? can’t remember location) in the beginning of the case. There is digital evidence of them doing this. Question is….why? That was so odd.

      Thus, the confusion of where Natalee’s remains might ever be…. At Sea, or somewhere on that stinking, corrupt hell hole of an Island. There have been many theories as to where on that Island she could be. Since the vast majority of it has been searched, who knows. She also could have been moved several times. Something still tells me that about one of the only things Joran was ever truthful about was putting our dear Nat in the Ocean. Gives me the chills every time still thinking about his undercover interviews with Patrick Van Der Eem. Now 20/20 or someone is having an interview with one of VDS’s first gf’s? Are you kidding me, people? What the *&%#!!! Who the hell wants to see footage of how “lovely” and “thoughtful” the Sporter was when dating some girl when he was 17? Refuse to watch that BS.

      Either way—-it appears as if now that Aruban LE’s involvement with Peruvian Authorities will now be postponed.

      Does Joran have new legal representation yet?


    58. ThEhApPsTeR on June 18th, 2010 7:52 am

      It seems like the ocean scenario makes the most sense since it takes time and effort to dig, and I don’t know for sure on Aruba, but it seems like it is mostly rock. The dirt would not go down that deep, in places where there is dirt. I am thinking of the landscape at the lighthouse and in general how caribbean islands I have been to are. Most trees are the type with shallow roots or roots that sit on top of the ground. What about the well at his house? I just heard about that..don’t know if it’s true.

    59. ThEhApPsTeR on June 18th, 2010 7:52 am

      But I think if they are looking int he light blue, shallower water they are not going nearly far enough.

    60. Lisa in Maryland on June 18th, 2010 8:33 am

      NG Boston.

      The medida 20/20 tonight is airing the story.
      I haven’t seen it yet but the girl says the break up occured due to Joran’s lies at 16 this just goes to show you he was at it even at an early age. I have been reading interviews with Anita and I’ve come to believe that she is such a liar herself. I also thought if Jorans brother is such a big drug dealer wouldn’t she go to him for money? Also Paulus just died in Feb. Didn’t he have life insurance? I don’t believe they are broke. I think it is yet another lie.

      And if they are so broke then she should sell the house in Aruba. I know some people who would be willing to purchase it!

      Aruba has no interest in closure on the Natalie Holloway case. They are just as satisfied that Joran dies in a Peruvian prison for Stephany’s muder. The sooner the better for them for least exposure.

      I think Aruba believes that once Van Der Sloot is gone the story is over and they are so very wrong! They never did understand the continuity or willpower of the American people. They don’t understand UNITED WE STAND!

      They can send Dave away from that Island a million times he will keep coming back until Natalee is found!

      Pressure Aruba – Boycott Aruba!

    61. Maggie on June 18th, 2010 12:12 pm

      Arubans urge Holloway’s father to delay search during Peruvian probe
      By the CNN Wire Staff
      June 17, 2010 6:56 p.m. EDT

      (CNN) — Aruban authorities are urging Natalee Holloway’s father, Dave Holloway, to delay volunteer search efforts in her disappearance until police get better information on the case from Peruvian investigators who have spoken to Joran van der Sloot, prosecutor Peter Blanken said.

      Police do not want their investigation jeopardized or possible evidence contaminated in the Bubali Bird Sanctuary, a swamp area where Joran once said he dumped Holloway’s body, Blanken said. Aruban authorities wish to search a more focused area once they receive more information from van der Sloot and his laptop, which may include files linking him to the Holloway disappearance.

      Contaminate evidence..what a bunch of……….
      5 years and counting.. NO way do I believe Joran Van Der Sloot was able to carry off the “disappearance” all on his own.. Look at the sloppy job he did in Peru.. without any help.

      298 comments on the Cnn site above.. some interesting ones to read.

    62. Sven on June 18th, 2010 4:02 pm

      Lisa: I heard rumors (only that) on the internet that Joran’s first kill was the family pet some years ago. Would love to know the truth. As they say, most …. killers begin with animals.

    63. Sven on June 18th, 2010 4:12 pm

      Susan and Lisa: Boycotting is good – first we had North America due to Natalee and now perhaps South America due to Stephany. 2 Continents is alot of tourists. If boycotting works, citizens of Aruba and Netherlands would finally finally force Netherlands to do a full investigation on the cover-up by Aruban authorities 5 years ago and still on-going. Money Talks.

      Aruba lies when they say they must wait until August. Hello! The modern world has phones and faxes and e-mails and communications between Aruba and/or the Netherlands and Joran thru his lawyer and his mother and brothers. They don’t have to personally arrive in Peru to have discussions with him. Duh!!!! Such BS by Aruba! They don’t want any more searches cuz they’re still hoping Natalee’s remains will continue to deteriorate more.

    64. Sven on June 18th, 2010 4:20 pm

      P.S. and Joran did NOT say “I will only talk about Natalee to Aruba if they appear in person here.” He said “I will only talk about Natalee with the Aruban authorities.” He did not give limitations on how he communicated with them – i.e, thru his lawyer and/or his mom or by phone of fax. Again, Aruban authorities excuses about waiting until August! Joran is evidently willing to talk NOW. Only they are not!

    65. brie. on June 18th, 2010 5:32 pm

      I don’t believe that girl, no one has even heard of her before, she’s just looking for money to sell a story and 20/20 is going to give it to her. They said Joran was a big bully in school, always shoving everyone around. Use to beat up his brother. Would throw bricks through his parents windows. Threw a man off the bridge. I doubt if Joran was ever a good kid. Spoiled beyond rotten.
      SM: Melody Granadillo has been known to us since the beginning of the case. She was even one of Joran’s character witnesses. She has been posting on blogs about Joran since the beginning of the case (especially in the very beginning). She has been and continues to be very friendly with Anita. I agree she’s likely looking for money but I don’t doubt that most of what she is saying is true. Joran is a sociopath IMO and can sweet talk a girl then lose his temper and kill her. I have personally shared emails with Melody and I told her she was very LUCKY he didn’t kill HER (klaasend)

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