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	<title>Comments on: Barack Obama Speech at West Point on Afghanistan &#8230; Wow, that was Underwhelming &#8230; Krauthammer and Hayes Dumbfounded by Obama Speech</title>
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		<title>By: super dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>super dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE OLD WORLD: sounds like a cheap soap opera with an ugly leading lady named yoyo.
you two don&#039;t get it. he let many die before he decided to make a decision. (on purpose). because he doesn&#039;t have the mental capability to make a correct decision, pelosi and reid are his brain and he does what they tell him to do and he reads it from his teleprompter. you see, a foriegner isn&#039;t capable of making a decision for America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE OLD WORLD: sounds like a cheap soap opera with an ugly leading lady named yoyo.<br />
you two don&#8217;t get it. he let many die before he decided to make a decision. (on purpose). because he doesn&#8217;t have the mental capability to make a correct decision, pelosi and reid are his brain and he does what they tell him to do and he reads it from his teleprompter. you see, a foriegner isn&#8217;t capable of making a decision for America.</p>
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		<title>By: PlatinumSkye</title>
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		<dc:creator>PlatinumSkye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only reason Obama did this was to get &quot;some&quot; Republican support for his healthcare bill.</description>
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		<title>By: TheOldWorld</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheOldWorld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yoyo - I couldn&#039;t agree more.
This is obviously a decision he didn&#039;t like to make.
What is weak about it? He basicly said: Ok we&#039;ll quell all the current fires, help you stand up, and then we&#039;ll leave you to it.
This sends exactly the right message. It says: The country is yours, we are no oppressors. We will be gone in a few months. If you don&#039;t want a civil war and find yourself strung up by the taliban, you better get your affairs in order. Thats what it tells the Afghans. I have to agree that supporting people who could turn out to be bigger thugs than the people you fight against is a bit troublesome. But not one of us can make that distinction. This must be entrusted to the government.

And seriously! What the hell did you expect?
Just going home and saying fuck you? Leaving the region to civil unrest that might explode and take pakistan right up with it?
Or going: Well you guys, I hope you like sand and lead, because you&#039;re gonna eat a lot of it over the next 20 years of unresolved bloody conflict.
Or send 100thousand over? Would you be able to pay them?
Or even better invade pakistan?

Be reasonable, it helps understanding your president. 
This speech was so uninspiring because he personally didn&#039;t want to send more soldiers. It is the right thing to do and he has to do it, but he doesn&#039;t like it and has problems with saber rattling, military inspiring talks. He is honest.
Every day a new quality discovered.

I guess everytime he wakes up he thinks about sueing Bush&#039;s ass to oblivion.
Bush might have managed to f*** up not only his own charade of a presidency.

Before this gets the length of a health care bill, I better stop...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yoyo &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t agree more.<br />
This is obviously a decision he didn&#8217;t like to make.<br />
What is weak about it? He basicly said: Ok we&#8217;ll quell all the current fires, help you stand up, and then we&#8217;ll leave you to it.<br />
This sends exactly the right message. It says: The country is yours, we are no oppressors. We will be gone in a few months. If you don&#8217;t want a civil war and find yourself strung up by the taliban, you better get your affairs in order. Thats what it tells the Afghans. I have to agree that supporting people who could turn out to be bigger thugs than the people you fight against is a bit troublesome. But not one of us can make that distinction. This must be entrusted to the government.</p>
<p>And seriously! What the hell did you expect?<br />
Just going home and saying fuck you? Leaving the region to civil unrest that might explode and take pakistan right up with it?<br />
Or going: Well you guys, I hope you like sand and lead, because you&#8217;re gonna eat a lot of it over the next 20 years of unresolved bloody conflict.<br />
Or send 100thousand over? Would you be able to pay them?<br />
Or even better invade pakistan?</p>
<p>Be reasonable, it helps understanding your president.<br />
This speech was so uninspiring because he personally didn&#8217;t want to send more soldiers. It is the right thing to do and he has to do it, but he doesn&#8217;t like it and has problems with saber rattling, military inspiring talks. He is honest.<br />
Every day a new quality discovered.</p>
<p>I guess everytime he wakes up he thinks about sueing Bush&#8217;s ass to oblivion.<br />
Bush might have managed to f*** up not only his own charade of a presidency.</p>
<p>Before this gets the length of a health care bill, I better stop&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another fyi:

the Dutch troops should have been home in 2008.
They were supposed to be relieved by other NATO countries (Not US or UK).

They extended to 2010 because of lack of relieve......not 1 single other NATO country stepped up (not counting the ones that are active (except the French, f*** them)).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another fyi:</p>
<p>the Dutch troops should have been home in 2008.<br />
They were supposed to be relieved by other NATO countries (Not US or UK).</p>
<p>They extended to 2010 because of lack of relieve&#8230;&#8230;not 1 single other NATO country stepped up (not counting the ones that are active (except the French, f*** them)).</p>
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		<title>By: Dolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol@8


for the rest, we here in the NL can expect several more weeks media coverage on this..should we stay or go....

and fyi: he said we BEGIN getting out in june.

Dutch army expects to leave next year and thinks they need 6 months to complete the extraction.

well...there are a whole lot less Dutchies there then yanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol@8</p>
<p>for the rest, we here in the NL can expect several more weeks media coverage on this..should we stay or go&#8230;.</p>
<p>and fyi: he said we BEGIN getting out in june.</p>
<p>Dutch army expects to leave next year and thinks they need 6 months to complete the extraction.</p>
<p>well&#8230;there are a whole lot less Dutchies there then yanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Snoopy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snoopy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there anything this guy does without televising it.  He could have come on at 7 pm.  I follow everything he does on Fox and other websites I don&#039;t need to see him when Charlie Brown comes on.  What a Grinch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there anything this guy does without televising it.  He could have come on at 7 pm.  I follow everything he does on Fox and other websites I don&#8217;t need to see him when Charlie Brown comes on.  What a Grinch!</p>
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		<title>By: super dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>super dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep, planning for a war with no military knowledge and no experience except for community service. not to mention that the enemy now knows his plans inside and out and his weakness for muslims and terrorists.
he&#039;s grasping at straws no doubt and with the administration he has,only has their minds on the silly healthcare reform scam that will bankrupt our children for years to come and be the death of many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep, planning for a war with no military knowledge and no experience except for community service. not to mention that the enemy now knows his plans inside and out and his weakness for muslims and terrorists.<br />
he&#8217;s grasping at straws no doubt and with the administration he has,only has their minds on the silly healthcare reform scam that will bankrupt our children for years to come and be the death of many.</p>
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		<title>By: yoyo muffintop</title>
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		<dc:creator>yoyo muffintop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 20:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tuny - Monday moring quarterbacks are a dime a dozen. &quot;This time&quot;, we put some thought into it - before going in half-cocked, guns blazing, with unrealistic expectations. Imagine that - planning before going to war. What a novel concept.  It&#039;s a good thing to think through a strategy, establish attainable goals, work through your execution, and finish what you started. As a former contractor I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tuny &#8211; Monday moring quarterbacks are a dime a dozen. &#8220;This time&#8221;, we put some thought into it &#8211; before going in half-cocked, guns blazing, with unrealistic expectations. Imagine that &#8211; planning before going to war. What a novel concept.  It&#8217;s a good thing to think through a strategy, establish attainable goals, work through your execution, and finish what you started. As a former contractor I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama &quot;The common security of the world is at stake, and we will get out in July of 2011&quot;?

I&#039;ll tell you who the real enemy of our country is........

OBAMA in a nutshell.

He opens mouth and nothing comes out.......
Between those BIG EARS is nothing but AIR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama &#8220;The common security of the world is at stake, and we will get out in July of 2011&#8243;?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll tell you who the real enemy of our country is&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>OBAMA in a nutshell.</p>
<p>He opens mouth and nothing comes out&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
Between those BIG EARS is nothing but AIR.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Bearly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just Bearly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what bugs me... that his campaign promise was to just get us out these wars and fix our problems here and BO he&#039;s fudged on that rhetoric. If you are going to just leave anyway why not just give up now... I hope the real plan is to Bunker Bust some caves and hide outs with Al Qaeda soldiers and weapons. This training of Afghan troops and Police idea, is not that how we spawned Bin Laden to begin with?

Now in the back of my mind the reason for troop build up is that its good for the economy, and the companies and workers that manufacture all the products used by the military. There is also other hidden revenues and agendas in it all.

This whole Asia &amp; Middle East thing is still just a ticking time bomb waiting to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what bugs me&#8230; that his campaign promise was to just get us out these wars and fix our problems here and BO he&#8217;s fudged on that rhetoric. If you are going to just leave anyway why not just give up now&#8230; I hope the real plan is to Bunker Bust some caves and hide outs with Al Qaeda soldiers and weapons. This training of Afghan troops and Police idea, is not that how we spawned Bin Laden to begin with?</p>
<p>Now in the back of my mind the reason for troop build up is that its good for the economy, and the companies and workers that manufacture all the products used by the military. There is also other hidden revenues and agendas in it all.</p>
<p>This whole Asia &amp; Middle East thing is still just a ticking time bomb waiting to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Jayne (on the left coast)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jayne (on the left coast)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t watch/listen.  By know I know what to expect from &quot;the fabulous won&quot;, which is not much.  Several very good friends of mine are in military, AF and Army,both Officers.  They have actually been at bases where the won has had speeches and it&#039;s very hard for the top brass to even give tickets away for these events.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t watch/listen.  By know I know what to expect from &#8220;the fabulous won&#8221;, which is not much.  Several very good friends of mine are in military, AF and Army,both Officers.  They have actually been at bases where the won has had speeches and it&#8217;s very hard for the top brass to even give tickets away for these events.</p>
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		<title>By: Vigilante</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vigilante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not buying this used war from this used-warsalesman any more than I bought new wars from the new-warsalesman eight years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not buying this used war from this used-warsalesman any more than I bought new wars from the new-warsalesman eight years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: super dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>super dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the enemy in America at present is the obama administration along with the whole liberal democrat agenda. obama is sure to telegraph his every move to the very terrorists that our brave military is fighting.
 makes you wonder whose side he is really on.his actions portray him as an enemy to our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the enemy in America at present is the obama administration along with the whole liberal democrat agenda. obama is sure to telegraph his every move to the very terrorists that our brave military is fighting.<br />
 makes you wonder whose side he is really on.his actions portray him as an enemy to our country.</p>
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		<title>By: tuyvnsurvivor</title>
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		<dc:creator>tuyvnsurvivor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had held out slight hope that Obama had ongoing negociations with Pakistan,   with other countries for added support,   or some need for a surprise deployment and logistics...as to his reason for such sad lengthy delay in providing 60 to 80k troops to Afganistan.   But no,    just more same ole over his head joke for a Commander in Chief Obama.

    As a retired contractor,   I ponder:   Had I told an owner he/she needed 80k I-beams in new shopping center.   &#039;NO&#039;!    And I am to make do,   covering the same grounds with 35k.   How well does that work?

    I felt this speech a tummy wrenching dark and humiliating comedy for history.    Often I feel speeches are unfairly picked apart,    using spare time to imply meaning not necessarily true.    No one can speek without leaving fractures.    Though this speech.    this one -- was &quot;dithering&quot; at speed.   For anyone to defend the selfishness,   denial,   blame games of this inept fellow,   right in the face of Westpoint cadets,   while still running for office to the cameras...defense of the immaturity shares in Obama&#039;s constant lack of responsibilty.   

    Do others ever wonder,     if Obama is a full timer of &#039;not responsible&#039;,    then who is?   Give me that download,    we payed more money for this one WHICH DOES NOT WORK.    &quot;WORK&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had held out slight hope that Obama had ongoing negociations with Pakistan,   with other countries for added support,   or some need for a surprise deployment and logistics&#8230;as to his reason for such sad lengthy delay in providing 60 to 80k troops to Afganistan.   But no,    just more same ole over his head joke for a Commander in Chief Obama.</p>
<p>    As a retired contractor,   I ponder:   Had I told an owner he/she needed 80k I-beams in new shopping center.   &#8216;NO&#8217;!    And I am to make do,   covering the same grounds with 35k.   How well does that work?</p>
<p>    I felt this speech a tummy wrenching dark and humiliating comedy for history.    Often I feel speeches are unfairly picked apart,    using spare time to imply meaning not necessarily true.    No one can speek without leaving fractures.    Though this speech.    this one &#8212; was &#8220;dithering&#8221; at speed.   For anyone to defend the selfishness,   denial,   blame games of this inept fellow,   right in the face of Westpoint cadets,   while still running for office to the cameras&#8230;defense of the immaturity shares in Obama&#8217;s constant lack of responsibilty.   </p>
<p>    Do others ever wonder,     if Obama is a full timer of &#8216;not responsible&#8217;,    then who is?   Give me that download,    we payed more money for this one WHICH DOES NOT WORK.    &#8220;WORK&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 15:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s because he is an empty suit.  Blah, blah, blah, you can&#039;t believe a word that comes out of the man&#039;s mouth. He does not know what in the hell he is doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s because he is an empty suit.  Blah, blah, blah, you can&#8217;t believe a word that comes out of the man&#8217;s mouth. He does not know what in the hell he is doing.</p>
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