FBI Arrest 4 Home Grown Terrorist in Plot to Bomb Bronx Synagogues & Shoot Down Plane

 

NYC TERROR PLOT BUSTED …

The FBI and NYC police have arrested a 4 man home grown terror cell who were plotting to bomb two Bronx synagogues and planning to shoot a plane out of the sky. According to reports, the four had been the subjects of a year long investigation in which FBI agents posed as terrorist supporters linked to Al Qaeda willing to provide C-4 explosives and a Stinger missile. Their mission was to create a “fireball that would make the country gasp.” As The Weekly Standard states, The good news is they were snitched on and caught. The bad news is they’re all U.S.-born:

So much for there being no being a war on terror. Would the current White House have  considered this a “Not-Overseas Contingency Operation.”

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James Cromitie (also known as Abdul Rahman) is the alleged leader of the plot

From the Jawa Report, the men arrested were four African Americans, three of the men are reported jail house converts to Islam and all are residents of Newburgh, about 60 miles north of NYC.

The four men have reported aliases: James Cromitie, also known as Abdul Rahman; Onta Williams, also known as Hamza; David Williams, also known as Daoud; and Laguerre Payen, also known as Amin.

It would appear that this was not just a random, wanna be terrorist effort on the part of these four men in their efforts to harm America. Instead as referenced by Macsmind, this home grown terror cell was a product of jailhouse terror recruiting efforts of which Homeland Security has a study.

Not likely just wannabes, more than likely of the jailhouse recruiting efforts terrorist abroad. Homeland Security study here.

“Research suggests that many prisoners began their incarceration with little or no religious calling, but converted during their imprisonment. According to the FBI, some of these prisoners may be vulnerable to terrorist recruitment. The purpose of this research is three-fold: (1) to collect baseline information on non-traditional religions in United States correctional institutions; (2) to identify the personal and social motivations for prisoners’ conversions to these faith groups; and (3) to assess the prisoners’ potential for terrorist recruitment.”

Thankfully the FBI thwarted this terrorist attack before it began. Exit Question: Would HLS Secretary Janet Napolitano like to make another apology for her comments regarding right-wing ex-military Vets being a threat to the United States?

UPDATE I: The FBI said the Muslim suspects were angry and full of hate for America

“Hatred of the West. The leader of the group, James Cromitie was concerned about deaths at the hands of the U.S. military in Afghanistan,” and also expressed anti-Jewish sentiment, Joseph Demarest the head of the New York FBI said.

Read the full complaint

According to the criminal complaint, Cromitie said “I hate those f-ing Jewish bastards.” He bragged that it would be a “piece of cake” to bomb a Jewish Center in Riverdale, according to the complaint.

He said his father lives in Afghanistan and he was upset about U.S. military presence there.

UPDATE II: After seeing the terror plot just twarted after it appears that the terror cell formed via a jailhouse, would you want A top al-Qaida suspect held at Guantanamo Bay will be sent to New York for trial?



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  • Comments

    52 Responses to “FBI Arrest 4 Home Grown Terrorist in Plot to Bomb Bronx Synagogues & Shoot Down Plane”

    1. SUPER DAVE on May 21st, 2009 7:06 am

      so much for loving the terrorists barry !

    2. Carpe on May 21st, 2009 7:55 am

      You know what I think it was that tipped them off?

      They were driving around in a car with a Vote
      For Ron Paul bumpersticker on it. ;)

    3. SUPER DAVE on May 21st, 2009 11:11 am

      obama is already crying about guantanamo. he didn’t get his way and like the spoiled brat, criticizes the previous administration.
      how do you feel about the terrorists being turned loose in the prison population and your neighborhood ?
      a disaster waiting to happen

    4. dennisintn on May 21st, 2009 11:14 am

      and barry just concluded his speech on how safe it will be to bring more terrorists into this country and jailing them here. guess he didn’t see the news this morning.
      dennisintn

    5. Carpe on May 21st, 2009 1:22 pm

      Let’s import some more terrorists to give the FBI some more work to do, Obama?

      Yeah, that’s the ticket! Let’s add to our problems.

      Change a flaming doo-dangle punk azz chump can believe in. IDIOT

    6. Michelle Smith on May 21st, 2009 1:26 pm

      The previous administration kept us safe for 8 years, they did not bring the terrorists to this country, they kept them in prison at Gitmo where they should have been.

      Thanks Obama for weakening our country’s defense by bringing the terrorists to us.

      Real smart move.

    7. GOP r Cowards on May 21st, 2009 3:30 pm

      SUPER DAVE on May 21st, 2009 11:11 am
      obama is already crying about guantanamo. he didn’t get his way and like the spoiled brat, criticizes the previous administration.
      how do you feel about the terrorists being turned loose in the prison population and your neighborhood ? a disaster waiting to happen

      You really beleive this? In our neighborhoods, Dave? Frankly, beside the cowards on the right, America is brave and strong enough to handle these small time desert dwellers. I guess you are afraid of the boogey man too? Just a bunch of cowards. What a waste of skin you all are. Just a bunch of cowards…..

    8. SUPER DAVE on May 21st, 2009 3:53 pm

      KEYWORD HERE IS MUSLIM !

    9. yoyo muffintop on May 21st, 2009 4:25 pm

      #6 – Did you forget about 9/11?
      More Americans were killed by terrorists on Bush/Cheney’s watch than on any other leader’s watch in US history.

      The job was 8yrs, not 7 1/2…or didn’t you know? Don’t forget GWB sat there for 5 minutes and read “The Pet Goat” after he was told the second World Trade Center tower had been hit and that America was under attack. There’s a leader for ya – lol.

      Now Michelle, let’s compare:
      Bush – 500 ‘actual’ Gitmo detainees released free into the public.
      Obama – ‘proposing’ 240 transferred to US prisons.

      #6 – maybe you can explain why it was OK for Bush to release 500 Gitmo detainees but it’s not OK for Obama to relocate 240 of them.

    10. HOPE on May 21st, 2009 4:36 pm

      You’re right Yo-Yo…

      And I would like to add that these men were prone to violence, long, before they were taught about the Muslim religion. Where better to promote violence and hatred than within a prison population?

      Hang ‘em out to dry… all of them!

    11. BUN on May 21st, 2009 7:19 pm

      Please send your money to help the defense of these poor men who have been persecuted here in the USA…NOT!!!! If they hate us, why not get away from this horrible place? Why not move to a country where there is love for people who hate others, now where is that country? I keep forgetting?

    12. Michelle Smith on May 21st, 2009 9:19 pm

      YoYo

      I did not forget about 9/11 (planned under Clinton’s nose). Have we had another attack since 9/11/01? NO

      These detainee’s were being held because they are terrorists or did you forget that? The one’s that were let go were not guilty. No, I do not think that gitmo should be closed and have the terrorists transferred to prisons here in the U.S.A. Why would anyone want terrorists in this country?

      Well Mr. Big Shot YoYo what did you want him to do, start a panic? He handled really well, I think, no need to frighten the children.

      He was a very good leader and didn’t need a teleprompter to do his talking for him, AND he kept us safe.

      You seem to forget that Bush was in office less than a year when the attacks occurred (planned under the nose of Bill Clinton) and HAVE NOT been attacked since that day. That was almost 8 years ago.

      There’s a good leader for ya. But, your hatred seems to have clouded your mind. You think it’s okay to release these detainee’s into the country they hate and want to destroy. Yea, that makes good sense. Why don’t you invite them over for tea.

      I can’t believe that you really think that Bush is responsible for the terrorist attacks. You really believe that this was planned out in just a few short months? Those terrorists were here in this country training long before Bush was President but of course you refuse to believe the facts, you want to believe the lies fed to you by the MSM that it was Bush’s fault.

    13. yoyo muffintop on May 21st, 2009 10:36 pm

      It’s an 8 year job Michelle – what don’t you understand about that?

      More Americans were killed by terrorists on George Bush’s watch than on any other leader’s watch in US history. That is a fact that you cannot dispute. That’s your definition of keeping us safe? Lol.

      So Michelle – what did Commander in Chief Bush do with the knowledge that the United States was under attack? He did nothing. Bush did not say one word. He didn’t ask Chief of Staff Card (who told him we were under attack) any questions. He didn’t give any orders. He didn’t know who (or which country) was attacking, whether there would be more attacks, what military plans had been taken, what military actions should be taken — he knew virtually nothing about what was going on outside the room. He just sat there.
      That’s you definition of a great leader? Lol.

      On August 6th, Bush received a PDB titled, “Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US.” What did your great leader Bush did with this info Michelle? A great leader and serious-minded president might have poked and prodded all his agencies to act on the basis of this news don’t you think Michelle?
      Your great leader Michelle did nothing…he was probably thinking about clearing brush at the ranch in crawford.

      Read the bi-partisan 9/11 report Michelle.

      You are so partisan it’s laughable…yet pathetic at the same time.

      “no need to frighten the children” – That might be the stupidest thing I’ve heard in years…
      “Mr President, America is under attack.”
      “Shhh, no need to frighten the children, let’s sit and read for 7 minutes.”

      Oh my lord.

    14. HOPE on May 21st, 2009 11:04 pm

      I don’t want to argue with anyone, but I believe it is common knowledge the terrorist groups had a burning hate for George W. Bush, Sr. Especially, those from Afghanistan, Iraq and from Palestine. They had threatened his life several times as he had refused to address their concerns and give them an open forum from which they could express their views. In my opinion, the planning began during the election. If George Bush, Jr. had of lost the election {as he truly did} who knows? Maybe there would never have been an attack on the Twin Towers.

      We are a nation that believes in free religion. We don’t prevent Muslims, Jews or any other religion from worshiping in the form they wish. And, yet, we bend the rules that we hold sacred when it comes to countries that are in objection to Israel’s actions and call them terrorists, Taliban and insurgents. In my opinion, any act of war is terrorism. If you don’t believe me, look at what is going on in Pakistan… and, please, put your political views aside when considering the terror they must be experiencing to move them to leave their homes for fear of their lives and the future of their children. We cry and pray everyday for the victims of violence in this country and ask ourselves why… but, if you can; imagine what it must be like to be asking ‘why’ while being faced down by tanks and missile launchers.

      I’m not excusing the terrorists that rammed those jets into buildings, but, two wrongs don’t make a right. Under the Bush administration, we have committed our own kind of terrorism through which more hatred has been spawned. Afghanistan used to be an ally. One that we supported in their war against Russia… and one that we ignored once the cold war was over. We dropped the ball, pure and simple and have spent enough money to rebuild Afghanistan many times over. It was careless and under-handed the way we treated Afghanistan and to use its’ religion as a way to paint them into our enemy is blasphemous to the principals THIS country was founded on.

      You let me know when you come up with a solution because, obviously, we are heading down a very self destructive path that will continue to be a scar on our reputation unless we can find an answer.

    15. Carpe on May 21st, 2009 11:16 pm

      #13

      More Americans were killed by terrorists on George Bush’s watch than on any other leader’s watch in US history. That is a fact that you cannot dispute. That’s your definition of keeping us safe? Lol.

      Yes, it is called a WAR, Einstein.

      Try the History Channel for more information!

      There are times in life when only a frothy can
      of whoop a$$ will do the trick. Not that you would know nuffin’ about that.

      That will be $250, thank you and drive around
      to the next window, please.

    16. HOPE on May 21st, 2009 11:23 pm

      Michelle:

      Have we had any attacks since 9/11/01?

      What?

      Do you feel immune to attacks because
      they happen over there and not here?

      Our men are tired. Our forces are turning upon themselves and you act like its’ a field day on the last day of school.

      :)

    17. HOPE on May 21st, 2009 11:26 pm

      By the way, that was one of those laughs to keep from crying.

      Nite…

    18. yoyo muffintop on May 21st, 2009 11:32 pm

      Michelle says: “These detainee’s were being held because they are terrorists or did you forget that? The one’s that were let go were not guilty. No, I do not think that gitmo should be closed and have the terrorists transferred to prisons here in the U.S.A. Why would anyone want terrorists in this country?”

      What University did you attend so I can recommend people not go there.

      - Zacarias Moussaoui is in a prison in the US
      - Ramzi Yousef is in a prison in the US
      - Jose Padilla is in a prison in the US
      - Ted Kaczynski is in a prison in the US
      - Terry Nichols is in a prison in the US

      We have hundreds of terrorists being held in US prisons right now – we have for years. What planet do you live on? Your fearmongering is completely unjustified.

      And let me understand your partisan warped logic:
      - The detainee’s Bush let go free and clear…good.
      - The detainee’s Obama wants to continue to incarcerate until it’s determined that they are guilty or not…bad.

      - Terrorists in US jails put there by George Bush…good.
      - Terrorists in US jails put there by Obama…bad.

      Logic only from a hypocritical partisan freak. Lol.

    19. HOPE on May 21st, 2009 11:34 pm

      Yo Yo:

      It was a sixteen-year blow job that we’re still paying for. LOL! The Bush’s policies when it came to dealing with terrorists (the silent treatment) killed us and still is… and we’re the ones that exercise ‘freedom’ of speech?

      Hypocrisy at it’s finest!

    20. yoyo muffintop on May 22nd, 2009 12:45 am

      #12 – Michelle, your post is just too precious to not continue to post about.

      According to the Pentagon on 1/13/09, 61 of the 500+ detainee’s released by the Bush Administration returned to terrorism. 18 confirmed, 43 suspected.

      Any thoughts on that Ms Big Shot? Was your great leader Bush wrong?

      Any thoughts on George Bush releasing, free and clear without trial or judicial review, Al-Shihri from Gitmo in 2007 and who is now the No. 2 of Yemen’s al-Qaida branch? Obama will not be releasing anyone without trial or judicial review.
      Any thoughts on your great leader Bush’s release of this terrorist?

      Michelle says: “The one’s that were let go were not guilty.”
      So Michelle, under Bush we abducted people and held them for years in a prison getting relentlessly interrogated/waterboarded/deprived of sleep/denied the use of their senses/periodically shackled to the floor of a room blaring with death metal music…only to wind up being released because it was somehow later determined that they were innocent or of no tactical value.

      Question for you Michelle – If you had been arrested with no charges, held indefinitely with no contact with your family, no legal representation, probably tortured, would you most likely join a group that understood your anger? Could George Bush have created more terrorists the past 7 years?
      After all, it was you Michelle that stated that the 500+ detainee’s Bush let free were not guilty of anything. (“The one’s that were let go were not guilty.”)

    21. yoyo muffintop on May 22nd, 2009 12:54 am

      Cap’t I –

      - I’ll take 9/11 for $1000 Alex
      - 2741
      - What is the number of Americans killed by terrorists on US soil in 2001 while George Bush was President
      - That is correct
      ______
      SM: To borrow a phrase from Barack Obama … a terrorist situation that GWB inherited from the previous 8 years old William Clinton where he did nothing to deal with terrorism except to bomb aspirin factories to defelct attention from the Lewinsky affair.

      I think if one is to have an honest discussion that GWB is partially responsible for the economic situation, one must also put blame on Clinton and his cronies for 9-11. They thought terrorism was to be treated like a criminal act.

      The 9-11 plot was hatched long before GWB took office.
      R

    22. Scott on May 22nd, 2009 7:29 am

      #7…big bad man hiding behind a computer screen….you are the coward! You are probably in some far off place in North Dakota and have no idea what is was like when 9/11 happened.

      Yeah, the GOP are cowards…go ask Qadafi if Reagan was a coward. go ask Saddam, or that’s right he was caught and beheaded.

      DOPE – you are so clueless…still singing that boring liberal talking point list you have handy in your wallet!?! LOL!

      You just can’t help the morons. Clinton was pu$$ified wimp when it came to dealing with terrorists. He let the first WTC bombing happen. He did nothing, they laughed at him and then bombed the Cole and a couple US Embassies in which he knew Bin Laden was involved. Had TWO chances to “DRONE” him out and didn’t do it; then he let 9/11 get planned right under his nose! He should be held culpable for accessory to MURDER of Americans!

      Since when to TERRORISTS have the same equality as Americans?

      Go ask the Gov of VA when the 20th highjacker was tried and the circus that ensued…the shutting down of roads and the such…cost to taxpayers, such as housing more prisoners. Most prisons are OVER-CROWDED…

      Why don’t you just let the not so bad terrorists live with you? I doubt it. You are full of a bunch of hot air just like Pelosi and the such. All of you liberals are so predictable its not even funny. Blah Blah Blah …Bush this Bush that..blah blah blah…

      FACT – GITMO kept us safe
      FACT – Bush kept us safe as FIXED the fiasco of national security policies set under Clinton that led to 9/11…7 years safe….NUMEROUS plots uncovered!

      Obama blamed Bush 28 times! What a joke! He has yet to figure out that he IS President. Cheney has Obama on the defense. His own party has him on the defense. They won’t fund his policy.

      When we capture terrorists in Afghanistan, because you know he is commiting more troops there, although in his campaign he promised to bring ALL the troops home…LIE! WHAT IS GOING TO DO WITH THEM?

      People like yoyo and DOPE, who live in fantasy land and weren’t subject to the FEAR and devastation that 9/11 brought to NY and DC. I had a kid I coached in basketball die in the Pentagon. I DESPISE you liberal jacka$$es who sit in your dark dungeons in Hawaii or Florida or Indiana or wherever and sit back and act like you have a clue! Of course what would you expect from the scum of the earth….

    23. Waterboy on May 22nd, 2009 7:32 am

      I’ve done prison ministry (Kairos) many times over the years, and I can tell you that there is a strong recruitment program going on in the Muslim community.

      They recruit mostly blacks, and the hate of whites is a strong recruiting tool. I have seen at least one white Muslim, however. He came from a Pentecostal background. I would have thought he would have been resistant. He was also a lawyer (which explains why he might have been highly sought after).

      The Muslim movement in the prisons is what I would describe as cultic. Most of their recruits come from Christian backgrounds. Guess which denomination.

      Once on a Kiaros, we had no chapel to meet in, so we meet in the library. The only books that showed any sign of wear and tear were the copies of the Koran. The Bibles were in pristine condition.

      Kairos allows Muslims to attend (which I think personally is a mistake), but they try to get the gang leaders, and hard heads to attend, in hopes of changing their lives. We especially try to get Arian brotherhood type guys. The meaner, the better.

      As a member of a Kairos team, you pay for inmates to attend, and you are called their sponsor. I’ve sponsored 2 Muslims over the years. They always greet you in the same way. They always say, “There is but one God, and his name is Allah.”

      Jerry

      The Muslim movement in the prisons is what I would describe as cultic.
      Most of their recruits come from Christian backgrounds. Guess which denomination.

      Once on a Kiaros, we had no chapel to meet in, so we meet in the library. The only books that showed any sign of wear and tear were the copies of the Koran. The Bibles were in pristine condition.

      Kairos allows Muslims to attend (which I think personally is a mistake), but they try to get the gang leaders, and hard heads to attend, in hopes of changing their lives. We especially try to get Arian brotherhood type guys. The meaner, the better.

      As a member of a Kairos team, you pay for inmates to attend, and you are called their sponsor. I’ve sponsored 2 Muslims over the years. They always greet you in the same way. They always say, “There is but one God, and his name is Allah.”

      Jerry

    24. Scott on May 22nd, 2009 7:32 am

      DOPE – you have no clue….here’s one for you…the extreme Muslims hated us way before George Bush Sr. Try right around the Jimmy Carter era when they were kidnapping our soldiers then. You liberals are so bent on blaming Republicans that you distort the truth.

    25. Waterboy on May 22nd, 2009 7:35 am

      Cut and copy did me in. Sorry for the repeat.

      Jerry

    26. Waterboy on May 22nd, 2009 7:40 am

      Yoyo #20,

      The Lord works in mysterious ways, doesn’t He?

      Jerry

    27. nurturer on May 22nd, 2009 8:23 am

      All you Monkeys need to get along, or there’ll be no more banana bread.

      There have been mistakes made, and are going to be made, by both administrations. If you haven’t yet read “Marching Toward Hell” by Michael Scheuer, do yourselves a favor. He states that NO politician has a CLUE on how to deal with the terrorist issue, due to their own self-serving agendas.

      For myself, I think anybody identified as Taliban or Al-queda should be killed on sight.

      But hey, I’m nice like that.

    28. Dolf on May 22nd, 2009 8:39 am

      scott,

      the Iran thing may had to do with the the backing of the Irian shaw by the US

      down side was that he was a money stealing ppl killing dictator

      Saddam would be thankfull to Reagan, with his support he came to power.

      Gitmo was choosen because it was a mil. base not on US soil so US laws didn’t apply
      That doesn’t strike you as…”out there”

      but I understand you, everything repls. do is good, what dems say is bad

      btw. we in Europe call the US a liberal country and thats a compliment.

    29. yoyo muffintop on May 22nd, 2009 9:53 am

      SM: “I think if one is to have an honest discussion that GWB is partially responsible for the economic situation, one must also put blame on Clinton and his cronies for 9-11. They thought terrorism was to be treated like a criminal act.”

      True, but to have an honest discussion about 9/11 one would have to put blame on GWB as well as Clinton. There were massive breakdowns in both administrations.

    30. yoyo muffintop on May 22nd, 2009 9:56 am

      SM: “The 9-11 plot was hatched long before GWB took office.”

      And the plot continued and was honed under George Bush.

    31. Michelle Smith on May 22nd, 2009 10:36 am

      @HOPE & YOYO

      You two keep posting the same crap over & over, I suppose you think if you keep saying it, it will make it true. Bush is not president anymore, so you can stop with the blaming Bush for everything. It’s all on Obama’s hands now. Tell me what has Obama changed for the better? Tell me why, if he was so against the war and during his campaign said he was going to bring our troops home, then why aren’t they home? Why are we in afganistan now? Why is war okay now, that Obama is Commander in Chief but when Bush was Commander in Chief it was bad, and it was a personal vendetta with him? You think we can play nice with the terrorists? You think that just because Bush is no longer President they don’t still hate us? It’s people like you that make this a dangerous world to live in. you care more about the enemy than you do about your own country. You care too much about what others think of you than protecting the people of this country.

      Personally, I think we were too damn soft on those bastards but I guess you guys want to invite them over for lunch.

      You think that these terrorists want to play nice?

      You do realize that there are terrorist training camps right here in the U.S.A, right? They are getting bigger & stronger everyday. Why do you think that is? Do you think it’s because they love us so much?

      WAKE UP! It has nothing to do with Bush or Obama, Republican or Democrat and has everything to do with Islam.

    32. Michelle Smith on May 22nd, 2009 10:37 am

      YOYO & HOPE

      You two are perfect for each other, neither of you have a clue.

    33. yoyo muffintop on May 22nd, 2009 12:17 pm

      Blind hypocritical partisan drivel is all you type Michelle….yawn. It’s boring.

      Now let me follow your partisan logic Michelle:
      - 100 days into an Obama presidency…all on Obama
      - 200 days into a Bush presidency…still on Clinton

      Lol.

      Have a good weekend Michelle…at the end of the day it’s just politics :)

      btw – for the record, I was the first to say hope/whateverhernameistoday was nuts. just wanted to set the record straight.

    34. Michelle Smith on May 22nd, 2009 1:06 pm

      YoYo Actually Bush did create SOME of the deficit in his 8 years in office but Obama has tripled that amount in just a few months, so where is the change? Yes, Clinton was responsible for some of this mess then add to it the overspending by Bush, two wars and a numerous number of other tragedies and we have a big ole mess. I did not expect Obama to come in a fix the situation in the first one hundred days or even in the first year but I also didn’t expect him to triple the deficit either. You can’t keep spending money you don’t have. I’m not disagreeing that Bush spent too much money and I’m not disagreeing that he didn’t do everything right either. I’m not war happy either but sometimes it’s necessary. As you said, it’s all politics and nobody will get it right all the time and the dems & repubs will always be in disagreement on most issues, that’s why there is more than one party.

      It looks like we do agree on something and that is HOPE is nuts but she’s also on your side of the fence ….lol

      Have a pleasant Memorial Day Weekend and be safe

    35. BIG SUR on May 22nd, 2009 2:07 pm

      Seems More fuel for the fire, Keep blaming Israel, now it has spilt over as an Anti Semetic Hate crime.

    36. katablog.com on May 22nd, 2009 2:45 pm

      Hope and YoYo – you guys are hysterical! First we are in a war we don’t belong in and you want to crucify Bush for holding detainees at Gitmo and NOW you want to fillet him for releasing detainees at Gitmo that your donkeys insisted on releasing!

      But your lord and master takes Bush’s same policies, which he swore to you he would reverse because he was so adamantly against them, and implements them with a little twist (including proposing to allow these terrorists – or are they “man made disasters waiting to happen” – on US soil and you defend him! Lordy, Lordy! Talk about having it both ways! I’m convinced you both don’t use your brain!

    37. katablog.com on May 22nd, 2009 2:46 pm

      correction Michelle: “but Obama has tripled that amount in just a few months,” – nope, that is quadrupled!

    38. katablog.com on May 22nd, 2009 2:48 pm

      I’m not disagreeing that Bush spent too much money and I’m not disagreeing that he didn’t do everything right either.

      Let’s not forget that it is Congress that appropriates money and the Donkeys were in power for most of Bush’s spending binge.

    39. katablog.com on May 22nd, 2009 2:53 pm

      Oh and while you continue the drum beat about Bush continuing to read a book to first graders when he got the news about 9/11 – instead of jumping out of his chair and scaring the pants off them, running around like a mad man instead of keeping kids calm while he took a few minutes to think – let’s review 1. the Air Farce One disaster over NYC for a photo op and the 2. Lock the kids out of the White House because their bus was 10 minutes late so O could meet with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

      BTW, you might write O and a letter and tell him that the name of his Secretary of Defense is Robert Gates, not William.

    40. katablog.com on May 22nd, 2009 3:03 pm

      - I’ll take terrorists for $3500 Alex

      - What is the number of Americans killed by terrorists while Bill Clinton was President.

      - Let see, there was the Beirut Barracks 241, Yeman USS Cole: 17 American Sailors, World Trade Center #1 killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others, Oklahoma City: 168, Waco, Tex, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia outside Khobar Towers: 19 Americans and hundreds of others,Nairobi, Kenya near US Embassy: 224 killed and injuring about 4,500 plus (and no one but you denies this) the plot for 9/11 took place.

    41. katablog.com on May 22nd, 2009 3:13 pm

      - Alex, I’ll take Al-Shihri for $500

      - Why was Al-Shihri released from Gitmo in 2007

      - Democrat pressure to release detainees from Gitmo cause Al-Shihri to be released from Gitmo in 2007

    42. yoyo muffintop on May 22nd, 2009 6:34 pm

      #41 – so there was no plotting of 9/11 while GWB was in office? Nobody but you believes that.

      FYI – the Beirut barracks were bombed in 1983 during Reagan (But I’m sure you’d like to blame that on Clinton like you just did). btw – only 12 americans were killed in kenya embassy bombing.

      So katablog, let’s review –
      Bill Clinton was President from Jan 1993 – Jan 2001 therefore Bill Clinton was not President in 1983 and Bill Clinton was not President in Sept 2001.

      Yet you, katablog, believe he was President on 9/11/01 and 4/18/83.

      Wow – the lengths a right winger will go to to blame a democrat. Amazing – you’ll actually time travel back to 1983 blame Clinton. Lol.

      katablog – I’m convinced you don’t use your brain! Lol.

      - Alex, I’ll take Al-Shihri for $500

      - The Presidential Administration that released Al-Shihri from Gitmo in 2007

      - What is Republican George Bush’s Administration

    43. yoyo muffintop on May 22nd, 2009 7:01 pm

      #22 – Oh looky here. We have ourselves a 9/11 truther nutjob who believes Bill Clinton should “be held culpable for accessory to MURDER of Americans!”

      #22 Scott – you are no different that those that believe George W. Bush Should Be Tried For Mass Murder.

      As a matter of fact #22 Scott, when someone said that, just as you have said about Clinton, you said this: “Please tell me you believe this and it will explain all is needed to be explained about your mentally challenged brain and your existence in this life…WACKO!”

      So…by your own definition #22, you are mentally challenged and a WACKO!

      What do you think about that {edit)

    44. Scared Monkeys on May 22nd, 2009 8:43 pm

      Sorry Yoyo … but Clinton was more responsible for 9-11 than GWB. He created a culture of not taking terrorism seriously.

      It was all about keeping his approval rating up, looking the other way when it came to corporate corruption and treating terrorism as a crime.

      Like it or not, GWB did a good job on protecting the USA after 9-11. Everyone and their mother predicted another attack. They feared it would be like Israel. That never happened.

      GWB took the fight to the terrorists. Did he do a perfect job, no he did not.

      However, the touchy-feely nonsense that Obama is doing is downright frightening.

      Maybe he will invite our enemies to stay in the Lincoln bedroom. That would show good will.

      One can obviously see by Obama changing his positions (otherwise known as flip-flopping) with Tribunals, dealing with terror, etc … Obama either has realized that to be Prez you must deal with the enemy this way or he knew he was lying all along during the campaign and made false promises to the LEFT that was against GWB policy because it sounded nice.

      In any event, to allow GITMO prisoners into the US and US prison is insane.

      R

    45. yoyo muffintop on May 22nd, 2009 9:18 pm

      #22 says: “Had TWO chances to “DRONE” him out and didn’t do it”

      Hey idiot #22, Predator drones didn’t have any weapons installed on them until Feb 2001.
      So explain how Clinton was going to “DRONE” him out. Lol.

      Your lack of intelligence is astounding to say the least.

    46. yoyo muffintop on May 22nd, 2009 9:30 pm

      “to allow GITMO prisoners into the US and US prison is insane.”

      Why is that insane, as you say, when we currently have terrorists in prisons in the US and have for years?
      Explain the fear and show where that fear is justified.

      And what is your backup for your statement “Clinton was more responsible for 9-11 than GWB”.
      Just because you say so doesn’t mean it true.
      The bipartisan 9/11 Commission report says otherwise.
      Do you have a more comprehensive report than they do that we don’t know about?

      Again, the job is 8 years “R”, not 7 1/2.

    47. Carpe on May 23rd, 2009 12:47 am

      “When I take action, I’m not going to fire a $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It’s going to be decisive.”

      -George W. Bush

      Still the best line ever by a US President!

      Roscoe P. Coletrane could not have done it better
      himself, even if he put a coo coo coo after it.

      I am still wondering, just what part of that did them boys not understand?

    48. Carpe on May 23rd, 2009 7:55 am

      OBAMA: Upholding values will shield us from terror.

      Yep. Because that is what comes first for a rag head.

      VALUES

      These brothers only wash their johnsons when it is a special occasion. To heck with values, let’s send ‘em a bar of soap so they can do a little
      oochie coochie and work it all around!

      I shall call it a gleaming BAR OF FREEDOM.

    49. Michelle Smith on May 23rd, 2009 11:48 pm

      @#38 I stand corrected.

    50. Michelle Smith on May 23rd, 2009 11:50 pm

      @#39 Well, at least for the last two years when things really started going down hill in the housing market.

    51. HOPE on May 24th, 2009 5:05 pm

      You’re hysterical, especially, the voiceless one ~

      Scott:

      You’re ready for the ‘ward’
      or is it the ‘warden’?

      We USED to have allies in the Arab World, you f’in idiot!

      .

      Hey, Suck it up, George!!!

    52. Dolf on May 27th, 2009 1:45 am

      the US still has an allie in the middle east:

      Israel

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