RSSBill Kristol to John McCain … Fire the Campaign, You Have Nothing to Lose
Let McCain be McCain and let the Maverick win or lose on his own terms but please 
take the restrictions off and let him talk to the people as a person, not a politician. There should be nothing to hold back and at the end of the day one should never have any regrets.
It has become increasingly obvious in the poles that the John McCain campaign needs a jump start. Due to the drag of GWB, an economic crisis and a media that is forever in the tank for his opponent, McCain needs to do something to shake up his run for the Presidency. Why are they running a conventional campaign when “We the People” are crying out for leadership, accountability and character. Fire the campaign, so says Bill Kristol.
It’s time for John McCain to fire his campaign.
He has nothing to lose. His campaign is totally overmatched by Obama’s. The Obama team is well organized, flush with resources, and the candidate and the campaign are in sync. The McCain campaign, once merely problematic, is now close to being out-and-out dysfunctional. Its combination of strategic incoherence and operational incompetence has become toxic. If the race continues over the next three weeks to be a conventional one, McCain is doomed.
Many of the same assertions that Kristol puts forth in his NY Times Oped I have been wondering myself. Why has the campaign not made John McCain and Sarah Palin more accessible? There is media that McCain and Palin could get their message out to that does not include The View or David Letterman. At the end of McCain’s speech at the Republican National Convention he asked Americans to fight, to fight on with him. I might ask what happened to that person, that vigor and that fight. Is John McCain ready for a comeback?
Provide total media accessibility on their campaign planes and buses. Kick most of the aides off and send them out to swing states to work for the state coordinators on getting voters to the polls. Keep just a minimal staff to help organize the press conferences McCain and Palin should have at every stop and the TV interviews they should do at every location. Do town halls, do the Sunday TV shows, do talk radio — and invite Obama and Biden to join them in some of these venues, on the ground that more joint appearances might restore civility and substance to the contest.
It is obvious that America needs a President who will lead and can some what be able to cross the aisle in some effort of bipartisanship in order to do the work of the people. Americans crave leadership in uncertain times. If the campaign would just let McCain be McCain maybe that would resonate with People as what they are presently doing is not.
John McCain has always been able to speak straight with the American people. This is a moment in time when “We the People” are so sick and tired of typical Washington, DC Insider double talk and CYA answers. John McCain, talk to the People as a person. Tell us emphatically what happened, who is to blame and how you are going to fix it without selling out Democracy and capitalism.
You have one more chance during the upcoming debate and then 20+ days prior to the election. I would beg you to fight, fight, fight …
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the problem with mccain/palin giving interviews with obamedia, their words are always twisted to make them sound like nutcases. the only place their words aren’t twisted or clipped is fox news.
dennisintn
Yep, with only 23 days left–McCain’s campaign needs another shot in the arm for sure.
I am a little worried now about a victory for him.
Lord, help us. I am moving to Canada if Obama gets in.
**McCain/Palin ’08 **
Please surf the web for
Pictures from London Muslims marching
through the streets of London during
their recent “Religion of Peace”
demonstration- Beyond Scary
Why would anyone think that we should be at war with such nice, peaceful Muslims?
Americans need to know – You need to forward this one to everyone! These Pictures tell it all! (some one sent me pic’s I cannot download
them here…drats).
Muslims have stated that England will be the first country they take over!
These are pictures not shown on American TV or in American Newspapers (as they might help Bush’s war on terror), but were forwarded to someone by a Canadian Friend who thought Americans ought to know!
And Americans are actually considering electing the democrat presidential candidate, Barack Obama, who said in his book, Audacity Of Hope: ‘I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’
#3- Hi, Sharon—Do you know what also troubles my soul? It is astounding to me how many Americans are going to vote for Barack Obama WITHOUT even reading his 2 books.
To me, and as you quoted above—his own words speak volumes. Frightening, really if you think about it.
***McCain/Palin ’08***
Click on the link for pictures/story of the Islamic uprise in London Friday – their so called peace march.
O’Bama wants to embrace them…
http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/muslimprotest.asp
Last night I woke up and switched tv on and there was FOX news doing a whole biography
story on O’Bama. It was so good, step by step
showing how O’Bama has been connected to the
Anti American Terrorist groups. I hope they
keep playing this documentary over and over
again..
It’s like painting a picture….the puzzle parts
on what O’Bamas connections are. Once would have
to wonder after watching this (democrats etc) about O’Bama’s loyalty to the American traitors of this world.
I applaude FOX news for a job well done!
As a Barack Obama supporter and a former John McCain admirer, I too am saddened by what has happened to John McCain.
He is not the same person he was 8 years ago. If he was, this race would be very close instead of a widening gap.
John McCain refuses to engage on the issues that are so important to American voters right now, the economy. Why is that? He chose to pull the stunt before the first debate that now looks foolish and cheap.
He chose a VP that is certainly not ready to be President if needed, one that scares intelligent, rational people, Democrat and Republican alike.
He is doing what the Republicans have been doing for the last 8 years running on fear;
Obama’s a terrorist, he’s a Muslim, etc….
Well, no new facts have come out about this since it was first brought up and I think that most peoples fears have been satisfied by now. McCain himself said you should not be afraid and he is an honorable man.
Both he and Sarah Palin have ethics problems.
McCain is surrounded by lobbyst and several of his campaign managers have left because of their affiliations. Carly Fioria received a multi- million dollar severance package after she did a not so great job a HP.
I look at Jon McCain and I see and honorable man that has sold his soul to the far right in the Republican party. He has surrounded himself with the same people he purports to “get rid of in Washington”. Sarah Palin abused her power a la Bush/Cheney. McCain team tried to stop that investigation even though Palin herself said she had nothing to hide. Well she was wrong.
He looks tired, ill at times and does not inspire confidence.
I feel sorry for John McCain. He has served this country so well in so many ways and the advice he is getting and the campaign he is running will ruin his place in history if he loses.
If he wins, he will have divided this country with fear and loathing and that is never a good way to start a presidency.
Just ask Bush and Cheney. And then ask yourself if we can afford 4 more years of the same.
I am feeling hope filled…the polls the polls the polls…O’Bama ahead of cain!
The polls are not accurate EVER… Republicans have won before when it showed the Democrats
in the lead!
No one has ever polled me or my other vote McCain
friends.
I think last weeks Acorn OBama dirty laundry helped to turn some heads around to think twice
about voting for O’Bama….
With the time left and the exposure to O’Bama’s
true hidden “agenda” being exposed, those who
don’t wantt o see an Islamic/Muslim nation ruling
and riegning on our soil will not vote for him!
Wake up Democrats… admit you choose the wrong
liberal Anti-American horse to back.
Diane…Which John McCain are you talking about??? Not the one running for Presidency!
The guy you painted from your distorted
depressed perspective is not the John MCCain
I know and am voting for!
So take your sales pitch back to O’Bama’s camp.
You need to look at O’Bama’s anti-American record
and not vote for him because you are a democrat!
Given the current economic problems, many scared Americans are going to vote for Obama, on the belief that the Democrats will do better at looking after the ‘little guy.’ No question about that.
I think that McCain has a historic opportunity to tell the American people why it is necessary to cut the size of government … give more power back to the states, and let those states that wish to be a high-service, high-tax realm be that, and those states that will offer fewer services and lower taxes be that.
(Within limits, of course. There are indeed true needs that only the federal government can provide; our tragedy is that we have gone too far in that direction.)
Will there be problems, and will sacrifices be needed? Certainly. But if, without skating over these (as politicians of all stripes tend to do), McCain can show how a smaller government is likely to change our national spirit, and how local control (again, within limits) is likely to cut down on ‘politics as usual,’ that is his best chance.
That’s how I see it, anyway.
From The Wall Street Journal:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122360618747721991.html
#02 A New Girl- If you’re going to cry and move to another country if Obama wins…Go AHEAD and move…that is more anti-american than what you claim Obama is. If someone else wins..pout and go home. Way to support democracy!!
#3 Sharon- Nice try to stoke the fear of the right again with those muslim shots. This is OLD news..it was 2 years ago, and did you read what it was about? It says “These” pictures were not shown in the news. I didn’t see them..but I do remember the story..and yes..Those people are FREAKS. But don’t try and say Obama is a muslim..or make him seem so..as you know McCain already said he is a christian.
McCain had to fire his people because it’s his last chance of hope. He didn’t fire them because they were not making him talk about the issues. He’s a maverick remember? He can talk about what he wants to…and he’s not talking about the right issues…economy..because his plans sucks, and it will put us in a worse place than were we are now.
#3,
You need to do some research and get your facts right. Obama doesn’t state that in his book. Go to snopes.com and find out the truth. It’s one of those scaremonger emails that the religious right put out. Totally false.
Obama is a decent person and a person you don’t have to be scared of as president of the United States,” McCain said as the crowd booed and shouted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lEyrk5ZsQw
Let McCain be McCain and let the Maverick win or lose on his own terms but please take the restrictions off and let him talk to the people as a person, not a politician. There should be nothing to hold back and at the end of the day one should never have any regrets.
12/13/14 Yeah Dems!! I have two very good friends who have been Reps for years. Now that it is so easy to actually check the facts and see what the Reps have done and will do to us and main street, they’re voting Obama/Biden.
Do you McCain lovers not see how we have been lied to and stolen from? Do you not see the war crimes our own government has committed? Read the facts and stop spouting off soundbites from Sean Hannity and the rest of the Fox idiots.
Barack Obama is an American Hero and we will see true change for the better when he is sworn into office.
Great speech By Sen McCain in Virginia Beach today!
Let Sen McCain be himself and his popularity will grow as I felt the resurgence in his confidence. I think Crystal is right.
There is nothing wrong with the man that being himself to the voters can’t cure. Good show!
By the way, I think the ignorant person at McCain’s rally who yelled “kill him” about Obama should be investigated by the FBI. What kind of crap is that? I can’t stand McCain or his bossom buddy Bush, but I wouuld never say something like that or support someone who did. That’s the reason McCain made his comment about how we shouldn’t be afraid of Obama…to cover his ass. But at the same time, I think he is doing everything in his power to make people afraid of him. The outrageous lies are unforgivable. This is the dirtiest campaign ever. Not from the Dem side. Barack is running a very clean and respectful campaign. McCain/Palin know they can’t win on the issues so they’re grasping for straws.
I can’t wait for the election. It’s going to be a landslide and then the reps are going to cry foul immediately. You watch.
16….The comentators from CNN, MSN who say that McCain should not talk about “Ayers” as if he
is “trying” to smear O’Bama is totally wrong
to say that.
The facts are facts O’Bama left a big paper
trail right to Rev. Wright who damns America
and to the other Anti American terrorists.
Folks it is what it is…you can’t put lipstick
on that one and call it patriotic! O’Bama can say
that America is a great country but all of his undercurrent decisions and support come from the
enemies that want this country to be run by islamic terrorists.
Wake up America…
Hey #13… Scaremonger emails the right puts out…facts are facts and IF O’Bama ever got
in as president, which I totally belive he will not…
If what happened in London Friday, the Islamics
spewing hate and murder ever happens
here…I believe your average American would
take to the streets and crush our enemies,
regardless if O’Bama wanted to let them have
their say.
O’Bama…Who is he? Scary…..
#12 … watch FOX unbiased bio documentary on O’Bama tosee the facts laid out in black and white…
Is it just a coincidence that he surrounds
himself with people who hate America?
Is THAT the type of President you want to lead
our country?
If so, are you Anti American too?
It’s going to be a landslide. I believe the predictions about Obama winning 344 electoral votes. He’s going to take Ohio and Florida.
Sharon Chicago sez…
“Wake up America…”
She obviously has her own agenda and nothing Sen McCain can say will detract her. Doubtful that she actually supports the man. Doesn’t show it at any rate.
#2 – Canada is what the Obama crew wants the United States to turn into.
#20 Sharon
What do you mean FOX unbiased? Come ON! FOX is SO McCain! Are you blind by that fact? So the answer to your question is NO…I have not see the show from the republican based Fox network. So if he is so Anti-American why is McCain running around calling him a good christian man? Do you people really think he is going to turn this country into an islamic state? This must be the same people that yell “kill him” from the McCain campain trail. If McCain should win…I will support him..I might not like it, but it is what it is. So if Obama makes it in…are you going to join A NEW GIRL and run to Canada?
If Obama wins just take it…like the rest of us have taken it for the last 8 years with the worst president in the U.S.
Sharon,
If you believe that Fox news is unbiased then there is no hope for you at all.
Tony Martin has a very unsavory past that Shawn Hannity forgot to mention
(READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE HERE ~http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/10/08/fox_news/index.html)
About Tony Martin
In a New York bankruptcy case, he referred to a judge as a “crooked, slimy Jew.” During the bankruptcy dispute, he filed a civil-rights lawsuit claiming Jewish bankruptcy judges and lawyers were conspiring to steal his property. He asked a court to bar “any Jew from having anything to do with plaintiff’s property.”
In another motion in the case, he wrote: “I am able to understand how the Holocaust took place, and with every passing day feel less and less sorry that it did, when Jew survivors are operating as a wolf pack to steal my property.”
He was actually barred from filing lawsuits with out prior authorization because of his numerous and contentious suits.
This is the man credited with starting the Obama is a Muslim and terrorist baloney.
If I saw a documentary about McCain done by this guy with his history would I believe it?
NO WAY
If you want to fling stories, supposed “facts” I’ve read that Track Palin is not in Iraq because he loves his country or because he’s fighting for our freedom, I’ve read he’s there because he was involved in vandalism and was told JAIL OR SERVICE.
I don’t credit this story because I don’t have the “FACTS”.
Just because Obama knew Ayers doesn’t mean that he shares or condones his views.
It was an educational board started by a Republican conservative philanthropist, how sneaky and subversive can you get?
#16…would that be the same McCain that screwed off during his years at Annapolis? The one who bragged about his chances of getting laid in Rio while he was married? Would that be the McCain who left his disabled wife for a multi-millionaire? The same McCain who gave up information about his own military family members while he was a prisoner of war? That’s right, McCain gave a helluva lot more information to the enemy than his name, rank and serial number.
Check the facts.
#8 Yes, I recall specifically when the polls showed the Dems were ahead and then Bush ended up in the white house anyway? Can we all say voter fraud? Who owns the polling machines in Florida???? Of course when Obama wins 344 electoral votes on November 4th, you can bet the Reps will be crying foul, even when we take Ohio and Florida.
15 da wench … There is nothing patriotic
about a man who is mentored by a pastor who
sprews nothing but hate propaganda for America
and who ties himself into a political arena
of terrorists like Ayers and the other terrorists
29 Diana…. My hope is in God not a smooth talking Lawyer by the name of HUESIEN O’BOMBA…
WATCH…McCain will win…there is too much out about O’Bama’s bad character! People are getting wise to what he really believes in and it ain’t apple pie!
25# Diane…da…re read what I wrote…I said it was an unbiased bio documentary on O’Bama and it was…just the facts were stated and he is what he is, his record shows it!
There you go again…you’re a racist! Let me guess…you’re over the age of 40…white..and scared shitle** if a half black man bedcomes president. So it will be you that will be Anti-American if he whom you call “Huesien O’Bomba becomes the next president.
Ok Sharon.
It’s time to show the facts.
What other terrorists? Name the ‘other” terrorists that Obama hags around with.
Because I bet GW Bush and his dad know many more!!! They know most of the Bin Laden family, did you know that. Does that make them terrorists?
Rev. Wright has spewed “nothing but hate” prove it.
Give me examples where Senator Obama has used his terrorist ties to harm the US while he was in the Sen. in Illinois and a US Senator.
Give me examples where Rev. Wright speeches have impacted on Sen. Obama to the point that he has harmed the people he was sent to Congress to represent.
What besides “meeting with countries without preconditions” which he already explained his views, else has Senator Obama done to make you think he was a terrorist?
He can’t help his name, that was given to him, way before Osama Bin Laden.
Should all Timothy’s be considered terrorist suspects? That even sounds ridiculous!
Let’s see…Hillary says Obama hangs out with his slumlord buddy Rezko and has a speech he gave in 2004,,no experience. Obama gives Hillary the finger during a speech to children.. Bill says give me a break , this is the biggest fairy tale ever.saw.talking about Obama.. The press treated Hillary awful..Hillary said they were bias. Bill goes out and says Dems voted for deregulation too and that the dems fought him and the Republicans on any kind of tightening of regulations of these places. Joe Biden says he would be honored to run with or against John McCain.He said Obama has no experience. Hillary praises John McCain and trashes Obama..John is a good man with experience. Democrats bragged about how John McCain would work across both aisles on things.
Now all at once we are suppose to believe John McCain is the anti Christ.. Joe Biden just said this year John McCain is a good man and he would be honored to run WITH him. Hillary had nothing but praise for John McCain and nothing good to say about Obama. And they thing John McCain is nuts? lol… better look at themselves.
Personally I don’t give a damn what John McCain did over 25 years ago in his marriage.. It was all legal. He moved on and married someone else. That happens many times a day in the US. You have never been held as a POW for 5 years and tortured and had your bones broken. I’m quite sure most would’ve broken before him. It’s remarkable he came back alive at all. Many people(dems) didn’t have a problem with a president having all kinds of affairs back in the 60s in the White House and they didn’t have a problem with one getting bj’s and exposing himself or being accused of rape in the 90s. Do you propose he spend his entire life with someone that he don’t love for political reasons? They tried for 7 years after he came home. People come back from war much different than when they leave. I have 2 family members who have been to Iraq. I have friends who won’t even talk about to this day what they witnessed in VietNam.
He talks candid about that time of his life.
They have worked out their differences and John supports her for the rest of her life..
After the divorce, Shepp went on to work as the press assistant to soon-to-be First Lady Nancy Reagan. Today, Shepp supports McCain’s presidential bid and was recently quoted by the Philadelphia Daily News as saying of her former husband: “He’s a good guy. We are still friends. He is the best man for president.”
Tell me, those of you who are planning on voting for O’Bama….
How do you reason/justify within your self that you should vote for O’Bama when he sat under the
mentorship of Rev. Wright for 20 years and
constantly was indoctrined to the “Anti-American
Racist” propaganda teachings??
Then when it is brought public…and he is now a candidate…he renounces Rev. Wright!
Why would he do that? He listened faithfully to Rev Wright for 20 years and also as CEO of Acorn and other racist organizations, gave money to Rev. Wrights church.
So why would he want to disasociate from Rev. Wright….?
Because he has to “smooth” it over with the voters from both parties as not to loose the votes.
This is a habit of his disasociating from people that have supported him but are either bomber like Ayers (FACT) and other anti Americans.
Wake up… Please just don’t vote for him because he is a democrat.
btw the way I do find it unreal someone would believe a person could sit in a church for 20 years and say they are like an uncle to me..they married us and baptised my kids..and not hear the anti white american garbage coming from his mouth.
or that after 9/11 Ayres says he wasn’t sorry for what he did, he wished they had done more.. that Obama would continue to work with him. Their group even killed some cops.
Joe Biden said this on Sunday.. maybe he should think hard on it first.. It was him that traveled around saying a drunk man hit his family on Christmas and killed his wife and daughter. The man was cleared of any fault..and wasn’t drinking at all.. His daughter was on tv on Inside Edition and they also talked to the police about it and the police said it was false. He don’t think that is an unbecoming personal attack?
SCRANTON, Pa. – Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden on Sunday accused the McCain campaign of trying to distract Americans from their economic woes by launching “unbecoming personal attacks” at Barack Obama.
#28 Trinity Church: For years, Barack Obama attended Trinity United, a mainstream church in Chicago. The church is open to all people, just as the national United Church of Christ is. It has a large congregation and a variety of social programs. Barack Obama credits the church as the place that brought him to Jesus. Due to the intense scrutiny of the church, however, and a controversy over the words of various speakers, Barack Obama resigned membership of the church, saying it would allow everyone concerned more space to worship away from the glare of the national spotlight.
Ayers: Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.
What other terrorists do you and Sarah Palin think Obama pals around with????
So Senator Obama’s name is offensive to you, huh? So a name tells you everything you need to know about his character, huh? He was given that name long before Sadam Huesien attacked Americans and one has nothing to do with the other. Very ignorant to vote based on someone’s name.
There is nothing about Obama’s bad character. Read about the republican candidate for crying out loud. He is no hero. Being tortured and not giving up information to the enemy would be heroic.
Is it possible that some of the folks in the McCain crowd yelling “Kill him” and other inflammatory things were Obama plants? From what I’ve seen on the blogs I would not put it past some of those folks. It kind of looks like their style. Of course the MSN wouldn’t investigate that. They got the job done and accomplished their goals if that’s the case. It’s getting really crazy out there!
Candidates differ on female draft
Monday, October 13, 2008
By Jerome L. Sherman, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Even as the U.S. confronts two long wars, neither Sen. John McCain nor Sen. Barack Obama believes the country should take the politically perilous step of reviving the military draft.
But the two presidential candidates disagree on a key foundation of any future draft: Mr. Obama supports a requirement for both men and women to register with the Selective Service, while Mr. McCain doesn’t think women should have to register.
Also, Mr. Obama would consider officially opening combat positions to women. Mr. McCain would not.
At least three of McCain’s GOP colleagues have gone on record to say that they consider him temperamentally unsuited to be commander in chief. Smith, the former senator from New Hampshire, has said that McCain’s “temper would place this country at risk in international affairs, and the world perhaps in danger. In my mind, it should disqualify him.” Sen. Domenici of New Mexico has said he doesn’t “want this guy anywhere near a trigger.” And Sen. Thad Cochran of Mississippi weighed in that “the thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He is erratic. He is hotheaded.”
If this RS piece is full of lies, why haven’t they been sued? Not lies…McCain cannot claim damages. He did it to himself.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/05/emrolling-stoneem-mccain_n_132093.html
That’s ok the one Obama is running with and has campaigning for him said the same things about Obama..
I betcha…. Hillary and Bill will NOT vote
for O’Bama…even IF O’Bama is a democrat!
You all should have let her run on your ticket!
Too late now!
28 da wench..
#28 Trinity Church: For years, Barack Obama attended Trinity United, a mainstream church in Chicago. The church is open to all people, just as the national United Church of Christ is. It has a large congregation and a variety of social programs. Barack Obama credits the church as the place that brought him to Jesus. Due to the intense scrutiny of the church, however, and a controversy over the words of various speakers, Barack Obama resigned membership of the church, saying it would allow everyone concerned more space to worship away from the glare of the national spotlight.
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SELL HERE…CONTROVERSY OVER THE WORDS OF VARIOUS SPEAKERS…JUST GO TO UTUBE AND SEE/LISTEN TO THE ANTI AMERICAN RACIST SPEACHES OF REV WRIGHT. YOUR BOY O’BAMA’S TEACHER! WONDERING WHAT PART OF JESUS DID O’BAMA REALLY LEARN? HATE THE WHITIES?
I look at the whole picture when it comes to O’Bama and he is not the right person to be president of the USA. I know that I cannot trust him he does not tell the truth to us Americans only what he thinks we want to hear…another smooth talking attorney, thats all he is!
# 36 Marion- Why would Obama stoop to that level when he is ahead in the polls? Maybe more I should ask was it McCain who planted them so he could swoop down in and act like he was saving Obama just like he did the bailout package?
#37 Maggie-So are you for or against it? I don’t have a problem with it. Remember it was McCain who voted against the Ledbetter Fair Pay Act which would give you equal pay rights as your male counterparts.
So to the women on this blog I ask..why would you vote for a man who woudln’t give you an equal chance for equal pay for something you wanted to do?
ha ha ha Mr. Bridge: There you go again…you’re a racist! Let me guess…you’re over the age of 40…white..and scared shitle** if a half black man bedcomes president. So it will be you that will be Anti-American if he whom you call “Huesien O’Bomba becomes the next president.
WRONG WRONG AND ONCE AGAIN WRONG :O)… I definately would vote for the right black man or women for president regardless of what party affiliation. Now are you feeling better????
I just cannot justify having a president that covered himself with so many anti-american ties.
I find this appauling!
From The Wall Street Journal:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122360618747721991.html
good post Tinker.
Marian on October 13th, 2008 2:37 pm
Is it possible that some of the folks in the McCain crowd yelling “Kill him” and other inflammatory things were Obama plants? From what I’ve seen on the blogs I would not put it past some of those folks. It kind of looks like their style. Of course the MSN wouldn’t investigate that. They got the job done and accomplished their goals if that’s the case. It’s getting really crazy out there!
Marian…. A former Hillary supporter on tv tonight..that is supporting McCain..said when she was working on the left.they would plant people in the audience like that and then go out and complain later about what they said..so you are right. She also talked about Obama’s dirty campaign. not just now but against Hillary. She said when he was running against her..People had shirts on that said “Bros not Ho’s” and she talked about how they treated women. How they treat Sarah..and Hillary. She said his campaign has set a bad tone in the country. That is why she is voting McCain.
They also showed top CEO executives..vote 80% for McCain..and say Obama’s plan would be disasterous.
#37 Maggie-So are you for or against it? I don’t have a problem with it. Remember it was McCain who voted against the Ledbetter Fair Pay Act which would give you equal pay rights as your male counterparts.
So to the women on this blog I ask..why would you vote for a man who woudln’t give you an equal chance for equal pay for something you wanted to do.
First of all John McCain had the guts to put a woman on his ticket. We’ve seen how they treated her. I seen how the dems treated Hillary.and Sarah. Sickening and yet they claim to be the party for women? Equal rights if you become our clones.? Sarah Palin gave her speech..she said Equal pay for women. I had even heard that John McCain talked about giving up the presidential salary.working for lower payments or none, don’t know if that’s true or not..Imagine if McCain’s camp did the same things to Michelle Obama that has been done to Hillary and Sarah..what’s sickening is Hillary is back out campaigning even after he gave her the finger.
Sharon Sharon Sharon…..I’m feeling fine reguardless of how you vote, in Nov. or whenever you vote. I hope this is true…that you would vote for right person..black…white..or gray. Just do me a favor…stop watching Fox…and actually read what McCain and Obama stand for, instead of just hearing the anti this…or he was this..or did that from this..and other republican sites. If you actually LOOK at what each has to offer to you the American that is voting….I think you would change your mind. Race aside..I think you would change your vote.
Hysterically, da_wench would make better progress reasoning with a deaf and dumb(and blind) lemming than this bevy of malcontents. Snickers abound on this thread, as the haters here don’t give a rat’s a$$ about Sen. McCain or his platform, just “scared” about Obama. McCain ain’t scared and calls him decent to boot, much to the agony of some(not all) here.
I still feel that Sen. McCain let loose and was finally himself today, much to the relief of honest and true American conservatives. Should he maintain that stature Wednesday evening, look for a good recovery and momentum turning his way. For him, this is vital.
October 13th, 2008 4:57 PM Eastern
From the campaign trail …
by Greta Van Susteren
From our embed producer Shush — traveling with Gov Palin:
From: Walshe, Shushannah
To:
Sent: Mon Oct 13 16:02:49 2008
Subject: Palin in Richmond
LIVE
RICHMOND, VA
Palin addressed a crowd of over 10,000 (possibly thousands more -efforting crowd estimate) at a very hot outside rally in the parking lot of the Richmond International Speedway. Palin introduced Hank Williams, Jr who sang the national anthem and then a song condemning the “liberal media elite.” Palin then got back on the microphone and launched into a racing analogy which the crowd loved, “Well John McCain and I are nearing the finish line here too of another close race and you know it is looking a lot like that Rock and Roll 400. Our race is gonna be close. It’s gonna be a real sprint to the finish line and it is a long way from being decided.”
She did not vary much from her standard stump and it was very hard to hear Palin and the thousands of supporters in the back could not hear her. In an awkward moment the crowd started to chant, “LOUDER!” But, she thought they were protestors and said,
“I would hope at least that those protestors have the courage and the honor of thanking our veterans for giving them the right to protest” until Todd leaned over and whispered in her ear. A colleague checked the tape and confirmed that Todd said, “They just can’t hear you back there. That’s it.” Palin look flustered but kept going.
From Previous Thread:
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# Fire Fox on October 13th, 2008 12:24 pm
New Girl:
I’m not sure that you’re being sarcastic or paying me a complement. But I can tell you this:
I have the utmost respect for anyone, like Katablog, that pours her heart and soul into research in an attempt to save people. I have done it, as have countless other people on this site. For a long time the main focus on Scared Monkeys was attaining justice for Natalee and coming to an understanding of the corruption that lies within a nation that would hide the body of a murder victim. That’s what I focused on; and, in spite of all the criticism that I took, I stood by my conviction. There is no justice to be attained in Aruba, but it is the heartfelt compassion that we felt for the family of Natalee Holloway that kept the boycott, not only alive; but endeared to, practically, all Americans. We were all a part of probably the most powerful boycott to ever be charged against a country, without the support or backing of a government.
There is power in knowledge and Katablog, as well as countless others know how powerful a hand-full of people can be with the right conviction. The problem with trying to turn this election around and turning the people against Obama, at this juncture, is that many of the crimes that have been committed against this country have been used for alot longer than they were ever backed by government. Just as in the Arawak nation, if people get caught up in finger-pointing, there is not an innocent one in the WHOLE lot. That’s why the scene at the rocks was so important to cover over. And, that is why it is so important for Katablog to be very careful. One has to ask oneself, and she asks it well…
Can we point the finger of corruption toward ourselves; and, if we do, what shall become of us… the most POWERFUL nation in the world?
Besides, I’ve been candid with Katablog and she knows me well. I am kind. I want health and education, peace and tranquility and the right to become the VERY best you can be in a society that embraces one another, not tears us apart.
McCain would rather forfeit his election than to bring down the house. For he, just like all the other men in Washington know… there IS life after the election.
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Funny…
Eight years after the crime, they come up with a name of a company… that Obama and Michele were told was backed by government to help register voters.
EVERYONE is back peddling…
as they should!!!!!!
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But, tell me this…
If you were black and you knew that many of them are not registered, would you not want them to be?
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I would!
AND I DO!!!
Because, if there is anyone that can stop the bloodshed, in the Middle East, it is him. And, if there is a man that can help us deal with poverty in this nation, I would hope it would be him. For he has walked the walk and he can talk the talk. Besides, it takes a WHOLE TEAM of people to make things happen in this nation…
not just one.
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# Fire Fox on October 13th, 2008 12:39 pm
I’ll look into her research, and I thank her for doing it; because I know, from experience, the amount of time and effort it takes to put the puzzle together, like she has done… and I also know that Katablog is not a hater, but rather, a concerned citizen interested in helping people; and I, just like the rest of you, have a WHOLE lot of respect for her.
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But, I agree with those of you that think that there is a small minority of people who won’t listen to a candidate that is of color. The rhetoric and the hateful things said about people of color, specifically, has effected their ability to reason. There has been a ‘hate-based’ campaign that started, here, long before Obama carried the Democratic nomination… and that, alone, is the one thing that makes your arguments suspect. In fact, those that say, “Give us Hillary” are the same ones that blasted her to pieces during the time she was campaigning.
There is no honor in being pro or con when it comes to putting credence into facts that are gathered, if the facts are based, solely, on one’s opinion of who would be become president. It is a choice that we all make, not based on the color of skin, the shape of ones ears or the one-sided fact gathering.
I told you we were headed into the biggest depression in history… and I, already, told you who would win the election… Obama. The points the democrats make on this site, are good ones. Obama is not a monster. He is not a Muslim, nor is he a terrorist. Winning an election that is based on fear and insecurity is not winning, at all. Besides, I believe that it was because of our fear of terrorists that Bush was elected the second time. Third time is not a charm; but, rather, a shame. The Republicans are dealing with a smarter America with their backs against a wall, but, inspite of all the problems that we have faced over the past eight years… the biggest one was the Administration that we had in the White House. America is not going to vote out of fear, this time around; but, rather, from the heart.
… and THAT is why Obama will make a fine President.
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I’m wondering why Sharon is ignoring my questions for specific facts.
Again generalities.
I wonder why you would base your vote on hearsay.
I prefer facts
Fire Fox, I applaud you! Very well said.
Assuming that Obama is elected in his own words what will be the result.
He has stated that his first priority is unlimited abortion funded by Federal money. Partial birth, ok, no parental consent required, no father consent required this including the 3rd trimester. By this HE should have been aborted.
His new proposal for $3000 credit for the creation of a “new job” is pure BS. Please define “new job” and what Federal agency will police this? Talk about open for abuse and government control!!
He attacks the Republican medical proposal with a completely false presentation. Medical from employer will be taxed, true but the $5000 annual is a direct tax credit, ie. directly against taxes. For most Americans, the actual Federal tax burden would be reduced due to the effect based upon their marginal tax rate. Of course it would go directly to the insurance purchased as this would eliminate the normal Democratic supported fraud associated with the current system.
Freedom of speech will be effectively eliminated by laws covering “offensive speech” and communication licenses. The internet will likewise be restricted by the government.
There will be effective Nationalization of major industries, including Energy and Ethical Drug. There will be price controls, government direction covering capital investment and the government dictating compensation, hiring and employee rights such as the elimination of a secret ballot for union membership.
Huge amounts of US taxpayer money will go to Africa to prop up the most corrupt governments on the planet. North Korea and Iran will be given the status of respected allowing them to increase their evil deeds in the world.
The list goes one and on..JS
And… please, don’t pretend that if I don’t agree with Katablog on a political matter, that I don’t agree with her on other issues… because I do. Just like America, Scared Monkeys is made up of all kinds of people from all walks of life and, in the future, there will be other issues upon which we can all stand in agreement… and Katablog, above anyone else, should be commended for being the one person that will take the time to explain things to people, enter into civil conversation and maintain her dignity in the face of conflict.
Respectfully,
Patti
da_wench: Could you expound on the “outrageous lies” McCain has supposedly told about Obama? Inquiring minds want to know.
Do you mean the one where here he presented Hillary Clinton’s plan for a 90 day moratorium on housing foreclosures but earlier said it was a disastrous, dangerous plan? OOps – no, that was Obama.
Do you mean Obama’s denial that he ever heard Rev. Wright’s sermons in 20 years?
Do you mean Obama’s lies about his relationship with William Ayers and his terrorist wife?
“I would hope at least that those protestors have the courage and the honor of thanking our veterans for giving them the right to protest”
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Maggie:
What does the conflict in the Middle East have to do with our rights to protest? It is not the military, whose place it is to give us our rights… only to protect them. But, wouldn’t you agree that to send our boys to fight a war, that is based on false information, is a bit of a scam?
By all means,
let Liberty ring,
but, let it ring for all!
The real problems this nation is facing cannot be won by military force; and I, for one, am tired of hearing her and McCain jump on the back of our veterans in hopes of riding them over the finish line!
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DaWench:
Thank you, but politics is not my forte so I shall avoid the subject, if at all possible.
Good Luck to You All!
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May the Best Man Win…
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New Girl:
Hang in there…
Stand up for what you believe…
But, please, don’t move to Canada;
America needs more people like you.
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Nite…
Hundreds of Economists Sign Letter Opposing Obama’s Tax Plan
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2008/10/hundres-of-econ.html
A comment from one of the people who signed it..
Well, Shag, as one of the signers of that statement I will tell you what nearly every professional economist would tell you about tax policy.
First, businesses are not the ultimate payers of taxes–the taxes collected from them come out of the pockets of actual people. The only interesting tax questions are, which people should pay taxes and on what basis should those taxes be assessed? Barack Obama thinks that owners of shares of stock–and ultimately all other savers–should pay more taxes regardless of whether those owners are very high-income earners or not. Economists who’ve studied this issue closely have concluded that this tax strategy serves in the long run mostly to reduce the amount of capital provided to workers, thereby reducing their wages. The general consensus is that it makes more sense to tax people on the basis of their consumption rather than their income; Bush’s tax cuts were a step in that direction. Consumption taxes can be made to be progressive, and that would not be opposed by a huge majority of economists, but the more progressive those taxes are made to be the more incentives the well-to-do have to avoid those taxes.
This leads me to another principal criticism of Obama’s tax plan: such a dramatic increase in the top marginal tax rates would certainly revive the tax-shelter industry. While this may be welcome news to the Tax Prof and his students, it is bad news for economic activity and the fairness of the tax code.
Finally, Obama’s claim that he’s going to reduce the taxes paid by 95% of Americans is preposterous on its face. About half of U.S. households pay no income taxes already. That’s not even “fuzzy math,” that’s just plain lying.
Oh, and by the way, I–and most academic economists–earn far less than $250,000 per year. Is it so very difficult for you to comprehend the idea that we just might be speaking out on the basis of objective analysis? If so, that speaks volumes about the basis for your own views
28 da wench..copying from Obama’s web site doesn’t make it true. BTW, the “other” terrorist is Bernadine Dorhn, Ayers wife. two terrorists = “terrorists”.
As I said to FireFox, If you know who the man is and still want to vote for him, good luck – one person, one vote. Please don’t deny who he is though. We know without a doubt that Obama was / is involved with: Ayers, Dorhn Wright, Johnson, Raines, the New Party (an admitted socialistic party) and ACORN. It’s a matter of record with a fair amount of proof.
If that’s okay by you, fine. Oh, and speaking of the depression, are you aware of Barack Obama’s interest in redistributing the wealth? You Tube: Taking from the wealthy and giving to the not so wealthy? Even though of course, the wealthy earned it and the others did not. Now if you are one of those “not so wealthy” maybe you like that plan – I’m NOT wealthy, but I sure don’t like the plan. I think if you earn it, you keep it. If you choose not to work so hard, then you get less.
The American dream never was about sharing others’ hard work and wealth. It was about earning one’s own wealth based on hard work.
McCain is not a wonderful choice, but in my mind he’s the only choice. Talk about predictions, here’s one for you: If you are not black and not poor, you will live to rue the day that you voted for Barack Obama. Obama has already said that he doesn’t believe in “reparations” but he does believe that black people should get “a bigger piece of the pie” because of history. (Which is reparations in my book). Sounds like a pretty racist statement to me – reverse racism.
See…
Katablog, gotta love her!
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Thank you katablog for pointing out your racism.
It always comes out…haha.
I knew it was just a matter of time with you katablog.
… and I do.
If there’s anyone that can turn the tide,
it’s her.
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Katablog:
I commend you.
http://patriotroom.com/
Obama describes his redistribution of wealth scheme to hard-working plumber:
video:
http://patriotroom.com/
Yo Yo:
I don’t mean to stir the pot, but from your comment; I ascertain that what you mean to say is that you REALLY want to ‘reverse’ racism… Personally, I think it should be abolished!
But, kill the message, not the messenger…
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Katablog:
Certainly, you’re not suggesting that black Americans have been given a fair shake, are you? Even the most rigorous supporters of capitalism admit that there is something, drastically, wrong with the distribution of wealth in this country and are astounded by the numbers of black families that live well below the poverty level. Anyone with a heart would want to break the cycle, strengthen their economic status and see that they’re given the same opportunities as everyone else. It seems to me that at one time, or another, there was actually a war against poverty… Isn’t that the American dream, as well?
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How does McCain address the problem of poverty in this country? We’ve had two hurricanes that, certainly, will take it’s toll. Some have lost everything. Given the state of the union, so to speak, isn’t it obvious that there will be an increase in the number of impoverished, homeless people in this country, black and white.
What about them?
I viewed the U-Tube…
Is that what you base your fear of socialism?
A five second blurb?
Now, you know I’m out of here.
Back to the REAL world…
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Nite…
“I have always been committed to the principle that it is not the duty of government to bail out and reward those who act irresponsibly, whether they are big banks or small borrowers.”
John McCain 3/26
“I would order the Secretary of the Treasury to immediately buy up the bad home-loan mortgages in America and renegotiate at the new value of those homes — at the diminished values of those homes — and let people be able to make those payments and stay in their homes.”
John McCain 10/7
$300 Billion Hail Mary.
Care to give us the staunch GOP line on this one Maggie? Got any Economists that support this one Maggie? When you are checking to see if you have enough “credits” for that McCain blender and then getting the daily talking points for cut-and-paste, maybe you can check.
TIA.
#12-Bridge—My comment was pure sarcasm, you fool. For real, people like you need to get a life. I am very proud of my Country and proud to be an American, so stick it where the sun doesn’t shine, Buddy.
Here’s another perspective, Bridge (since you seem so consumed with what a real Monkey thinks….)
Better get a grip, in 55 years of life, neither the Democrats or Republicans have done anything of substance but further their own cause.
Government by the people for the people, but it has become Government by the politicians for the politicians and as usual the people are left holding the bag. In another day and time they would be held as traitors and hung for selling out this nation …..
So there you go! Put that in your corn pipe and smoke it.
PS- I am not moving to Canada either, you Moron. I’ll keep living in the Boston area and watch all these liberal Democrats whine when the sh** hits the fan after our taxes increase x2 and we end up paying for every new Gov’t funded program which will probably be adopted if your boy Obama gets in. Save your lectures for someone else, please and keep drinking that Kool-Aide. Remember what happened to J Jones when they were done? That’s how you are going to wind up. DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
***McCain/Palin -08 ***
#15-Da Wench- You are in dire need of a reality check. The day Barack Obama becomes a true American Hero is the day I wake up in the morning and I’m Angelina Jolie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Puhleeze.
**McCain/Palin ’08**
#23-Nurturer—Hmnnnn…you have a point there….Okay, okay….how does the Greek Island of Mikinos sound? Is that far enough away? lol
Read the following email I received about
O’Bama’s ties with his militant socialist cousin in Kenya…
Family/Friends
> Interesting and disturbing news from seeming reliable
> sources.
> Hope your life is going well.
>
> > Subject: FW: Missionaries in Kenya know Obama
> >
> Christians, wake up! We’re heading for some real
> trouble in this country.
>
> —————————————-
>
> Missionaries in Kenya know Obama
>
> Thought you’d find this interesting. Celeste and Loren
> Davis are
> Missionaries in Africa and can shed some firsthand light on
> one of our
> Presidential candidates.
>
>
> Thanks for sending out an alert about Obama. We are living
> and working in
> Kenya for almost twelve years now and know his family
> (tribe) well. They are
> the ones who were behind the recent Presidential election
> chaos here.
> Thousands of people have been displaced by election
> violence (over 350,000)
> and I don’t know the last count of the dead.
> Obama, under ‘friends of Obama’ gave almost a
> million dollars to the
> opposition campaign who just happened to be his cousin,
> Raila Odinga, who is
> a socialist trained in east Germany … He has been trying
> to bring Kenya
> down for years and the last president threw him in prison
> for trying to
> subvert this country!
>
> December 27th elections brought cries from ODM (Odinga
> Camp) of rigged
> election. Obama and Raila speak daily As we watch Obama
> rise in the US we
> are sure that whatever happens, he will use the same
> tactic, crying rigged
> election if he doesn’t win, and possibly cause a race
> war in America
> .
> What we would like you to know is what the American press
> has been keeping a
> dirty little secret. Obama IS a Muslim and he IS a racist
> and this is a
> fulfillment of the 9-11 threat that was just the beginning.
> Jihad is the
> only true Muslim way. We have been working with them for 20
> years this July!
> He is not an American as we know it. Please encourage your
> friends and
> associates not to be taken in by those that are promoting
> him. It is world
> wide jihad. All our friends in Europe are very disturbed by
> the Muslim
> infiltration into their countries. By the way, his true
> name is Barak
> Hussein Mu hammed Obama. Won’t that sound sweet to our
> enemies as they swear
> him in on the Koran!?
>
>
> God Bless you.
>
> Pray for us here in Kenya . We are still fighting for our
> nation to
> withstand the same kind of assault that every nation,
> including America , is
> fighting. Takeover from the outside to fit the new world
> order. As
> believers, this means we will be the first targets. Here in
> Kenya, not one
> mosque was burned down, but hundreds of churches were
> burned down, some with
> people in them, burned alive.
>
> Jesus Christ is our peace, but the new world order of
> Globalism has
> infiltrated the church and confused believers into thinking
> that they can
> compromise and survive. It won’t be so. I will send you
> a newsletter we sent
> out in February documenting in a more cohesive manner what
> I’ve tried to say
> in a few paragraphs.
>
> Love,
>
> Celeste and Loren About our Father’s business!
> Luke 2:49
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
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> destination. Dining,
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Sharon in Chicago:
There’s that word again… race war.
Keep it up as I can tell by the idiotic stuff that you post that you are, truly, out of touch and it makes the Republican party look like a bunch of idiots to have people like you supporting them. You’d better hide because the last organized group that tried to start a race war ended up being investigated by the CIA and FBI and many of them ended up in jail.
How far are you willing to go?
comment: Certainly, you’re not suggesting that black Americans have been given a fair shake, are you? Even the most rigorous supporters of capitalism admit that there is something, drastically, wrong with the distribution of wealth in this country and are astounded by the numbers of black families that live well below the poverty level. Anyone with a heart would want to break the cycle, strengthen their economic status and see that they’re given the same opportunities as everyone else. It seems to me that at one time, or another, there was actually a war against poverty… Isn’t that the American dream, as well?
Response:
I think that the black people of America have all the freedom that the whites have. Yes they were under oppression many years ago but have been given freedom for the last 45 years. They can get education and powerful positions within the state and government and enjoy the good life,
many already have it.
Since too many have taken advantage of the welfare system and decided it was an easier
ride to receive a check than to get a job and
grow and learn more, I see that the system has
failed them and has allowed them to stay immobilized.
I know many people who have come to this country from other countries and have worked very hard
to finally purchase a home and nice things.
They went for the American dream and have succeeded. The blacks have every opportunity
to do the same. I am so tired of hearing how
they do not. That is not true. years ago they did not.
The folks that came here from other countries resent the fact that so many balck people are taking advantage of the welfare system and are not going forward with their lives to get their
American piece of pie.
They have the opportunities and the gifts to do this. Why have they not done this to a greater degree. O’Bama just wants to give them more handouts and keep them where they are at.
I am totally not racist I would vote for any black women or man running for presidency. I look
at their accomplishments and what they stand for.
I just don’t want a socialist militant in like O’Bomb-a.
Fire Fox…with your comments to me you sound
Out of touch and out of control. You have gone
“too far”… take a deep breath … stop and
smell the roses…. there ya go… feeling better?
For the record…my x-brother in law married a black gal in 1965…yes in the heat of the “let my people go” speech. I gladly attended this wedding since I am NOT prejudice at all! My x-husband and I were the only “white” people there so don’t get on your race card bandwagon and point your finger at me!!!
I also have wonderful loving black friends that I have over to my home and co workers…so don’t tell me where I stand when it comes to the race card!
I WOULD vote for a black person for presidency if I felt he or she was qualified (same goes for white person)…. O’Bama is a socialist with terrorist ties who sat under a pastor who spewed hatred towards America and the white people.
You are wrong Fire Fox!
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Obama’s plan of permission to withdrawl their support from the Stock Market would extend the trouble with the Market. You don’t lose unless to take out. Obama’s plan encourages people with financial trouble to take out at a loss.
Not good for the Markets, not good for Americans.
Obama’s plan to spread the wealth would weigh on the average worker. I heard a good explanation of wealth distribution:
You work hard, have some property, have some investments; but the guy with less . . . picks your pocket. The guy who picks your pocket gets his pocket picked by the person with less than the pickpocket.
This way, you get down to the drunken bum under the billboard. He hasn’t worked, except to get booze money, but he is in on the “trickle.”
Work hard and keep most of your money! Smaller government means less takeaway from your paycheck. Smaller government means less interference by government into the worker’s daily life–for which government has to have its cut of the pie.
Obama wants to have “trickle up economics” and he will, if elected. Water won’t flow uphill; Obama’s ideas defy gravity. He’ll have to perform magic; or break promises. Guess which!
Besides, how many jobs will a poor man (newly rich) create? I doubt any new jobs will be created this way.
# 68 A New Girl
I will agree with you 100% on one thing…
“Government by the people for the people, but it has become Government by the politicians for the politicians and as usual the people are left holding the bag.”
Here is where you’re wrong….”Democrats whine when the sh** hits the fan after our taxes increase x2 and we end up paying for every new Gov’t funded program which will probably be adopted if your boy Obama gets in.”
You’re right…we are going to pay…but we’re going to be paying for what this current Moron president has put us through. A war that will NEVER end…and that’s one thing I don’t like about McSame.
Actually I’m not 100% for either Obama or McSame…it’s sad to say that they are the best this country has to offer? I like some of what both offer, and represent…but I’m not voting for another 4 years of Bush..and that’s what I feel I’m getting with McSame.
Mr. Bridge stated:
(…)
“You’re right…we are going to pay…but we’re going to be paying for what this current Moron president has put us through. A war that will NEVER end…and that’s one thing I don’t like about McSame.
***A war that will NEVER end…” Better than life under Al Qaeda. Remember, We’ve been in Germany for 60+ years, and it hasn’t been bad. Could even be considered helpful.
I didn’t vote for George until after 9/11. He did well; many Americans are grateful. Guess you didn’t notice. Blame George . . . the mantra for years. Nobody notices Congress!
“Actually I’m not 100% for either Obama or McSame…it’s sad to say that they are the best this country has to offer? I like some of what both offer, and represent…but I’m not voting for another 4 years of Bush..and that’s what I feel I’m getting with McSame.”
***We will (all) do the best with what we’re offered. For me, I’d rather another 4 of Bush, to 4 of OBabble. McCain isn’t like Bush, but you’d like to paint him with the Bush-brush. Lets paint Obama with the Pelosi/Frank/Dodd brush, spend . . . spend, and take . . . take. Power to the people (named Obama/Pelosi/Frank/Dodd.)
The “4-mosquitoes” (not Musketeers) will stick you and bleed you dry.
#77- Mr. Bridge…Well, now I can say I do agree with you….we certainly do NOT have the best choices at all this year!
What I guess gets my goat is why GWB and the Rep. party is blamed for everything?? I just want to point out as far as this current financial crisis is concerned—-it was a long time coming.
BARNEY FRANK= A COMPLETE BUFFOUN!! LUMMOX ! JACKASS! Do not even get me going on this man, his position, his ignorance, his knowledge and his inability to do anything about it for a Commission and Regulatory position HE OVERSEES AND IS IN CHARGE OF !!!!!!!!! What are you kidding me? I would also like to point out that our current Congress is run my more DEMOCRATS than REPUBLICANS—so they, as politicians are just as responsible for the current financial turmoil and crisis as anyone else.
I am tired of everyone blaming GWB for every damn thing that is wrong in this Country. Also, while he certainly has not been the best President in history—there have been worse—-Can you say JIMMY CARTER???
So, in closing- I do agree we do not have the cream of the crop to pick from this year…but I have to pick the lesser of both evils….To boot—so many people who are disgusted and fed up (News Flash- no matter what your party denomination we ALL ARE!)—so many folks are going to vote for Obama simply because they want a “change” ! Not because they even think he is qualified or experienced enough to do the job! Preposterous!
As a registered Independent—I have to vote for the individual I believe to be most capable of doing the job. So, I default to McCain—not because I love everything he is about- but because I know of the 2 candidates—he is the one that has the ability to run this Nation in our troubled times. Of course, we are all entitled to our own opinions…but I can’t idly sit by and watch people praise Obama as if it were the second coming of Christ.
READ THE FACTS! You seem intelligent enough to not paying attention to all the false rumours circulating out there on both candidates. Do some more research if you are still uncertian. Then, believe what you want to believe and vote for who you wish-but do it because you want to see your Country protected and return to it’s former state of glory.
Barrack HUSSIEN Obama is not the answer, I assure you!
Peace
dePlume…….
I guess you’re of the 23% of the people who think Barney is doing a good job as President? So are you actually saying another 50 + years in Iraq might actually turn out to be something good? I’m sorry..I don’t see another day in Iraq as doing anyone in the U.S any good. I don’t see why McSame says we’re going to stay there till we win…Bush already declared victory a long time ago. What are you really grateful about under Bush? So tell me kind sir of all the differences between McSame and Bush..I would really like to know.
If you haven’t noticed a lot of people have already bled to death under Bush….maybe you work for one the oil companies…or Haliburton..I hear they’re doing really well…and will even be doing better under McSame. Drill Baby Drill…
What gets me is that after 8 years of almost utter domination of the political and economic landscape, there isn’t sufficient honour or decency amongst Republicans to accept any responsibility for the consequences of their actions. How can you be so shameless as to deny the creation of a 10 trillion dollar deficit, 7 million fewer with health insurance, economic recession – it’s grotesque. Just take your licks, you messed up.
The same people that screeched and screamed down those that criticized GWB for being an inadequate, now preach the wisdom of McCain as president with Palin as VP. You’ll excuse me if I don’t trust your judgement, your last pick didn’t turn out too well.
Sorry YoYo..I will trust 533 economists first..
Hundreds of economists (including Nobel Prize winners Gary Becker, James Buchanan, Robert Mundell, Edward Prescott, and Vernon Smith) have signed letters opposing Barack Obama’s economic and tax plans (here, here, and here):
The 533 Signatories
George Bush isn’t the only one affecting the economy. A democratic led Congress’s approval rating a few days ago is 13.. This housing problem has been going on long before Bush took office..Sorry but I have seen a letter and a speech from John McCain..wanting it to be took care of it..and no Democrats signed it. Nafta and deregulation was passed under Clinton with 38 democrats signing it.. Why did they sign it if it was so bad? Why were democrats on tape..fighting tightening up regulation on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.. saying it was doing fine? Bill Clinton is even on tape saying, the democrats fought any kind of reform against him and the Republicans. Nafta has cost many jobs in the USA. That was Clinton and his additions to it.
I don’t support Obama period.. has nothing to do with race or religion..and kinda tired of the atmosphere everytime someone says something about him it’s a race issue.
As for the 300 billion..it was to come out of the 850 billion.
btw YoYo was that your daily talking points
I have always been committed to the principle that it is not the duty of government to bail out and reward those who act irresponsibly, whether they are big banks or small borrowers.”
John McCain 3/26
“I would order the Secretary of the Treasury to immediately buy up the bad home-loan mortgages in America and renegotiate at the new value of those homes — at the diminished values of those homes — and let people be able to make those payments and stay in their homes.”
John McCain 10/7
$300 Billion Hail Mary
btw I don’t want the govt. managing my healthcare ty.. More tons of redtape.and money in deep pockets.. Look how they run Social Security. Our insurance company..for years had a list of doctors on the list we could go to.. 1 in our town that we didn’t like.. Finally they took that off..thank God..and we could go to any we wanted.
Justice for Natalee..that plumber was on tv..by phone.. He wasn’t very happy..
Maggie…just one thing you forgot in your little quotes at the bottom…..
“I have always been committed to the principle that it is not the duty of government to bail out and reward those who act irresponsibly, whether they are big banks or small borrowers.”
John McCain 3/26
Maggie..did you not know that John McCain already had a bail out from his past? Look up Charles Keating..and failed savings and loan..and best friends…they will all come together to form a $125 billion bail with the help of McCain. Just one thing most people on here fail to mention.
Mr. Bridge..
I watched a show about Keating this weekend.. and Bill Clinton’s former attorney Bob Bennett..said he was the attorney in that case. He said John McCain did nothing wrong in that case..He said it was a political thing by democrats..and btw Bob Bennett said he himself is a democrat. He was reprimanded for poor judgement. Bob Bennet said that was a joke.
btw the quotes at the bottom were from YoYo..
To Maggie:
You are the bomb, so to speak.
Nite Monkeys!
=)
ditto ^New Girl!