RSSGreyhound Bus Beheading in Canada, Vince Weiguang Li Accused of Second Degree Murder (Victim: Tim McLean)
Bizarre does not even begin to describe the following story where 40 year old Vince Weiguang Li beheaded a fellow passenger aboard a Greyhound bus in Canada. The stabbing and beheading took place Wednesday night aboard a Greyhound bus as it traveled a desolate stretch of the TransCanada Highway about 12 miles from Portage La Prairie.The 40 year old suspect was arrested in the beheading. Authorities have not named the victim in this sick and bizarre murder; however, friends have said that the victims name was Tim McLean.
Canadian police near Portage La Prairie, Manitoba, on Thursday inspect the Greyhound bus on which a passenger was beheaded.
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Authorities have not released the victim’s name but friends identified him as Tim McLean and said he was headed to Winnipeg after working with the carnival in Edmonton.
William Caron, 23, said McLean was quiet, though he liked to socialize with friends. He was small _ about 5-foot-4 and 130 pounds and tended to stay away from a fight, Caron said.
“All the time I’ve known Tim, he’s never been the type of guy to get into a fight with. He always kept to himself when there’s strangers around,” Caron said.
Friends started a Facebook group called “R.I.P. Tim” after news of the attack. (Washington Post)
Murder suspect, 40 year old Vince Weiguang Li of Edmonton, Alberta
Vince Weiguang Li, the suspect in the bus beheading was in court in Manitoba, Canada and charged with second degree murder. His motive was not known for this heinous act committed. It continually astounds just how dark come peoples souls truly are.
Vince Weiguang Li, 40, is accused of second-degree murder. The motive for the attack is not known.
Mr Li said nothing in court but nodded when asked if he was exercising his right to remain silent.
Police have not yet formally identified the victim but friends have named him as 22-year old Tim McLean.
Tim McLean is seen in this undated handout photo with the daughter of his friend William Caron. THE CANADIAN PRESS/HO – William Caron
Bus security under microscope after grisly slaying
Decapitation suspect appears in court
McLean was repeatedly stabbed and then decapitated by the man sitting next to him on a Greyhound Canada bus Thursday west of Portage la Prairie in Manitoba.
Garnet Caton, who was sitting in front of McLean, talked of a “bloodcurdling scream” when the attack began.
“It was like something between a dog howling and a baby crying, I guess you could say,” Caton said. “I don’t think it will leave me for a while.”
Passengers exited the bus, and a trucker who stopped provided wrenches and crowbars to several of them so they could keep the suspect on the bus until police came, witnesses told Canadian TV.
- Tim McLean, Rest in peace.
- Family, friends mourn bus murder victim
- Tributes for slain Tim McClean, RIP
UPDATE I: Vince Weiguang Li Lost Walmart Job over Conflict with a fellow worker
UPDATE II: Grisly details emerge in Canadian bus murder … Cannibalism
THE family of a 22-year-old Canadian man who was beheaded by a fellow passenger on a bus made a plea for privacy as more gruesome details of the crime were revealed.
A policeman reported seeing the attacker hacking off pieces of the victim and eating them, according to a tape leaked on the internet.
In the leaked tape of police radio transmissions, a Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer refers to the attacker as “Badger” and says he is armed with a knife and a pair of scissors and “is defiling the body at the front of the bus as we speak.
“OK, Badger’s at the back of the bus, hacking off pieces and eating it,” he says at the end of the recording of about 80 seconds.
Police issued a statement saying they were aware portions of the tape had been leaked.
UPDATE IV: PLEAE KILL ME … What are we waiting for … a Public Stoning May be in order.
UPDATE V: Don’t Miss the Dana Pretzer Show Tonight, 8/6/08, 9PM. Dana Inteviews Mike McIntyre, Canadian Crime Reporter on the bizarre murder of Tim McLean by Vince Weiguang Li. Podcast will be available afterwards.
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Sounds like something out of a horror movie,, I couldn’t even listen to it when they were telling it on the news.
This is SUCH an isolated incident, nothing could have been done to stop it, and this is just human nature – dark, insipid – but humasn nature.
1. It was not preventable – no amount of checking could have been done (hello, it’s Manitoba, with stops along country highways – nothing but as sign.. where are you supposed to plug in the metal detector?)
2.A gun wouldn’t have saved T.M.’s life – only maybe killed the man, who is clearly “F!cked” – and maybe if things got really out of hand, would have misfired into some of the other people on the bus – maybe one of the handful of children riding.
3. Canada doesn’t have the death penalty because we are above that – and no one wants it back, only pockets of radicalists. We don’t want guns in our country either.
4. Guy had NO criminal record before – ‘model employee’ etc. Sometimes these things are triggered by one thing, other times something else; sometimes these people have records, signs of illness….and sometimes they don’t.
5. Are you all worried about your next bus ride =) ? At least Tim McLean will live on in some way, maybe this was his fate… his way of becoming indellible in the Canadian psyche.
Yet another example that you CAN NOT trust mongrel sub humans around good white folk. Just another mud on white attack. What’s sad are the pathetic sheep on the bus that allowed it to happen. 1 or 2 guys could have knocked the sh*t out of that mongrel dog before he was able to get a dozen or more stab wounds to the victim.
Why only second degree murder?
This nut must have decided to do this making it premeditary. He choose a victim…the victim didn’t provoke him.
Wanna bet this nut will get a slap on the wrist….a stupid 10 year sentence or the like.
TO Larry
“Good White Folk?” You pathetic trash. It appears color is the only thing you can be proud of yourself. Truthfully white people stinks.
I bet you shit will be scared out of your miserable body if you were at the scene.
Commenter Alyssa = typical retarded liberal. Oh my God…the gun could have misfired…innocent children might have been shot!! You are too stupid to post comments and I’m confident in saying likely borderline retarded!! Oh no…mustn’t try to take out the headchopper with a bullet…innocent peeps might die. What is Mr. Mclean guilty of?? Alyssa, you are just breathing the air the rest of us need to live! No wonder Americans look at our northern neighbors as freakin’ sheeple being led to the slaughter.
Can’t believe some of these comments.
1) I can’t see the guy’s race/ethnicity as a factor in this attack. Frankly, most serial killers and deranged violent lunatics are not Chinese but in fact probably white. This is obviously a very isolated case, the color of the perpetrator could have been any, I can’t see any connection at all between his racial ethnicity/culture and this action. These comments are just plain racist/xenophobic/ignorant.
2) Obviously a gun wouldn’t have saved McLean. Neither a knife, a firerm, or any other offensive weapson would have, a defensive one such as a bulletproof vest might have helped. This guy made a suprise, pre-meditated attack from the seat beside the victim in a normally peace environment. How would the victim pull out the gun while being stabbed repeatedly in the chest and body. To make the point further, if guns were legal in Canada to the same degree as in the USA, the attacker would doubtless account for the chance of gun possession and modify the attack accordingly if necessary. Sorry, no change of gun laws would prevent this kind of thing from happening again.
I make these two observations to the right-wing racists out there.
violence has been on the rise and in greater numbers
every each day, also this time it is more brutal and
unimaginable. may be a massive floodgate surge of evil has been unleash. just reading some other peoples post you can really sense anger have consumed the majority if not all and this is also scary.
This is so bizarre….something you would expect in Aruba….but not on a Greyhound in Canada.
md
this ticks me off, you wanna know why. if there’s a guy getting attacked, you dont just watch, especially if its a stabbing. any smart person would have gotten up and defended him, not just watch his death. now he’s dead, and the family is ruined. this really makes me mad that no one did anything about this. how much worse could society get?
Dare we speak its name? That this was standard Muslim fare, carried out on the bucolic plains of disarmed, defenseless Canadians.
Bare thy neck, Oh Canada, the bell now tolls for thee.
This just reminds me of the incident in Wisconsin. Where Chai Soua Vang shot and killed 6 other hunters. News article: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/17/national/17hunters.html for those who haven’t heard of it.
For all we know this could have been racially motivated, but then again maybe it wasn’t.
In my opinion in a civilized world this shouldn’t have happened. Maybe we aren’t as civilized as we thought.
Little incidents like these will only be inciting the government to step into our lives more and continue restricting us. This is more prominent in the United States then Canada, but it still applies. “Police states” (read totalitarian governments) are coming under the guise of protecting you, and even under that, in the guise of democracy.
to ticked off guy: we are not a giant community of bees or ants, there is no difference between the attacker/victim, they are both human, both your brothers (distant or whatever), so how do you know who to help?
oh not the serial killer, god forbid you commit a crime or behead anybody in your miserable life. so in summary, shut the f*** up, not everyone has a peaceful ordinary quiet life.
ewww what a rude comment… a lil hostility there dude?
There is certainly alot of hostility in these comments, but thats understandable in circumstances like this. Especially when the crime is so violent and unforseen!
But I think the main question should be this…
What happened to this man (Li)? He has had no known criminal record, no history of any violence, so what happened? What triggered this rage?
If you think about it…It’s very scary! Because it could happen to anyone! Something just snaps inside the mind and your left standing there and in a brief instantance your life is forever changed from an event you could not control! Crimes happen all the time by the most normal people…and when asked why they did it…they have no idea…
Lets put our anger and hatred for a moment…
this is a sorrowful situation for both families.
And pray that maybe one day science will be able to prevent these unfortunate events.
I was just browsing the internet in order to obtain further info on both victim and murderer, and I came across this website.
There are some disturbing comments on this site, and unnessary hostility towards fellow bloggers that is completely unappropriate and classless in this context.
The murder was obviously senseless and brutal, and no one is in a position to judge the passangers on that bus in regards to defending the victim. Those that speculate that the passengers should have intervened or jumped in to protect the victim having been watching to many action movies and tv. The fact that the passengers armed themselves outside of the bus and prevented the murderer from leaving the bus is already act of courage.
Sincere and deep heartfelt condolences to family and friends of Tim Mclean.
Recognize it for what it is–Demonic Possession!
Don’t think I could’ve sat in my seat and watched this.. I would be ready to hit him with anything I could find.. Busdriver should have floored it and then hit the brakes. and then everyone jump on him.. What a nutcase.. It’s amazing there are human’s walking around with so much evil inside.
Y’all are some angry mother f**kers.
This is where “eye for an eye” punishment should be administered.
I read an article on the net (I’ll look for it and post the link when I find it) that stated when some of the passengers tried to get close to Li he would swipe at them with the hunting knife. So in that being said, I think the passengers shouldn’t be judged too harshly because NONE of us were there to see what they did or did not do. Let’s keep the blame where the blame belongs and that’s with Li. He was the one that brutally murdered Tim. He was the one that gave the passengers a life sentence of the brutal sounds and brutal memories of such a horrifying ordeal.
I also would like to add, it’s easy for most of us to say what we would have done AFTER the fact. I’m sure some if not all of the passengers are saying the same thing to themselves AFTER the fact. I think it’s fair to say that none of us would know for sure what we’d do in a situation like that and god forbid none of us ever have to be put in a situation like that.
Now this is why Canada should bring back the death sentence. This sick murdering F*#cker needs the lethal injection. Made me sick to my stomach when I heard this terrible news. This Phsyco will probably get 10 years in the hole and be back out on the street doing this gruesome shit all over again. THey shouldn’t even waste time in court with this animal, snuff him now.
I came across this site looking for details and read these comments. Its depressing and disgusting what humans can do to each other. That and how pathetic and ignorant some of these comments are. Alyssa stated this is human nature and maybe his fate. This is not human nature and his fate was being beheaded and gutted on a bus? I hate being negative but, you are an idiot as is amanofhell.
The death penalty shouldn’t be brought back. What, and let him get off that easily? He does something disgusting like this and he gets the easy way out without having to live with what he did, or without having to face other inmates who will for sure treat him violently? He gets the comfort of death?!
F*ck that. He should rot in hell for the rest of his life. THAT is what’s fair.
What is going on here people. Have you noticed that the media has all but silenced this story. Why has the “religion” of this man not been stated? Why is “nice language” being used to describe this man? People………There’s a much bigger story going on here. This should have been all over the front pages of every news bulletin around the world, especially because it hits so close to home, instead it has been swept to the back. We have a huge insurgence of Radical Muslims pushing there way into the U.S. and this my friends……….is the start. Get ready for more of this and with more frequency, all I can say is I hope more and more people are packing there right to protection and drop these nuts on site.
Thankyou,
Extremely concerned citizen!
Listen, if the man used a knife and scissors to eat this guy, no duh it was premeditated. If guns were legal what would he do? use each bullett to blow of some pieces of flesh to eat them. This guy was sick. Some of you liberal people on here, need to wake up. “No guns, too dangerous no.” Yeah see what that helps. If someone had a gun, they should have been able to shoot him. Even if the TM was dead. He did it, no one needs to know why. That will not bring the victim back. Someone should have shot him while he was doing this. I can see if the people on the bus had no weapons, and doing what they did. The guy died. No one could have helped. But for the sake of the man being defiled, I know I would have tried to stop him. Even if it meant my own life were to be taken. No one deserves to be mutilated like that. Shame on the “witnesses”. Yeah 3 men could have subdued him and stopped him from stabbing him anymore. Those 60 stabs were because of inaction. I am glad I live in America, where I can protect myself.
Sorry I did not finish. I am glad I live in America where I can protect myself and other innocent people. There was a story in America, I believe Texas, where a man was beating his 2 year old to death, and everyone was just passing by. Shame on them too. Thankfully a police officer came. Unfortunately the toddler still died, but the cop shot and killed him after 2 times saying to not touch the baby again. Unfortunately again, it was too late.”Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men.”
That is a quote from the movie “THE BOONDOCK SAINTS” everyone should watch it. It touches base on these types of stories. Trust me watch it.
As I sit down for lunch I decide to check on the comments on this again – and find the couple updates on the article. Disgusting really, eating him as well? How could someone who worked at wal mart with a quiet demeanor all of a sudden snap? Because he was fired from wal mart? To be fired from wal mart and to behead someone and then eat pieces of his corpse doesn’t even seem like there should be a caption.
Maybe he wanted attention… and now he has it. From what the articles say, it’s unlikely that he’ll talk even when the law tries to force him to.
Jared……
You contradicted yourself. First you said:
“I can see if the people on the bus had no weapons, and doing what they did. The guy died. No one could have helped.”
And then you said:
“No one deserves to be mutilated like that. Shame on the “witnesses”. Yeah 3 men could have subdued him and stopped him from stabbing him anymore. Those 60 stabs were because of inaction. I am glad I live in America, where I can protect myself.”
How do you know what the witnesses did and did not do before you cast blame?
There are so many stories out there regarding this ghastly act of murder. From what I read Li was a newspaper carrier. Perhaps he worked at Walmart at one point in his life but from what I’ve read in the Edmonton Sun paper, he was quoted as being a newspaper Carrier for the Edmonton Journal.
This is a good reason to carry mace or pepper spray with you.. This reminds me of the elderly man recently struck by a car as he crossed the street, surveillance camera going, people standing on the sidewalk, the car just drives on and noone got the license number or went out to help and cars just driving by the man in the street.. The person who hit him, fled the scene. The guy is in a home now for life on a ventilator.
I can’t imagine if this were my son. Don’t know what I would do, but would be hard for me to sit by, watch and do nothing. My condolences to Tim Mclean’s family, this is just horrific. I imagine most were in shock watching.
I remember Todd Beamer and others on Flight 93 during 9-11, they stormed the cockpit to try and get the plane back, before it crashed.
I agree with you jB. The death penalty is too lenient a punishment for Li. From news reports today, Li still isn’t talking BUT he did make one statement saying that “he wants to die” so that is giving him exactly what he wants.
You’re right Maggie. If it were either of my sons I’d give my life to save theirs in a minute. No thoughts behind that. A mother protects. I have no idea how I’d respond in a situation like this tho. I could sit here and type that I’d give up my life to save another life BUT I don’t know if I would go into shock and just freeze, or take on the murderer? It’s easy to sit here and type what we’d all do and it’s so very easy to sit here and find someone to blame but why are you people blaming the passengers on the bus? Did you forget who did the actual stabbing, beheading and cannobolism?
I remember the heroism on United 93 but they were able to make a plan and get whatever so called weapons they could find to take on the terrorists. Their plan wasn’t to stop the plane from reaching it’s target. The plan was to take the plane back from the terrorist so they could live. One of the passengers was a pilot on board who was to land the plane. God bless them all
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Let’s find out if he killed any others. I don’t think that you can be a nice guy and, all of a sudden snap (!) You don’t go from playing with model airplanes to dining out in a bus, without some bloodguilt in-between.
Canada had better check their missing persons list.
peace, love, and happiness… let’s send possitive vibes out to the family : )
This is a severe case of demonic possession. We’re living in the last days and the devil is on a rampage to get whoever he can. Look at how sick our whole world is. The most important thing is to be ready for the coming of the Lord.
Notice how this psychopath chose the smallest and most meek man on the bus. An example of how premeditated this murder truly was. Why not the 6ft2 guy up front or the big burly guy? No he “chose” the 5ft3 21 yr old kid with a quiet unassuming demeanor. This scumbag deserves to be roasted alive over an open flame like BBQ. Slow cooked…Worthless animal.
Wendigo
It is just a remote event made famous because it was so public. This kind of stuff takes place all over the world all the time and the USA is full of such events DAILY! I find the USA people to make such a fuss over the event and rage is a joke and insult when we look on the US of a violence ways.
It is not our fault the USA has this evil slant on all things. We have not a problem with out laws and justice… Americans might want to look at its own crime rates in the similar category… or just watch the nightly news you are all so used to seeing it in that you do not notice it.
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SM: This was a hideous crime and no matter what spin you want to put on it. Dude, people are not usually beheaded and eaten .. ok.
Make a fuss? You seem to be making a fuss defending a cannibal. BTW, the individual who has covered the story on SM radio … is Canadian!!!
R
RACE SHOULDN’T EVEN BE INJECTED INTO THIS HORRIBLE CRIME.AND I AGREE WITH ONE OF THE FIRST COMMENTS THAT I READ ABOUT THIS CHARGE JUST BEING SECOND DEGREE INSTEAD OF FIRST DEGREE MURDER.WHATS UP WITH THAT? PEOPLE OF ALL RACES COMMIT CRIMES AS WE ALL KNOW SO,PLEASE DON’T LOOK AT THIS AS IF IT WAS A CRIME COMMITTED AGAINST THIE GUY JUST BECAUSE HE WAS WHITE.WHAT I DON’T UNDERSTAND IS THIS,WHY DIDN’T SOME OF THE MEN FOLK IN THAT BUS TRY TO STOP THIS MAN? FOR THEM TO JUST SIT THERE AND WATCH AND NOT HELP THE VICTIM,SAYS A LOT ABOUT THEM.THERE IS NO REASON FOR THIS MAN TO BE DECEASED IN THAT MANNER IF SOMEONE HAD HELPED HIM. R.I.P.TIM AND TO HIS FAMILY YOU HAVE BY SYMPATHY.
I am so sorry to hear what happened to Tim, I think it is just insane that somebody could do that to a nother person. My prayers are with you and your family’s. To all his friends he was lucky to have such good friends and hope that god is with you and helps you to remember him. God bless and take care.
From Samantha Sanders