MEP: 2008 Successful Tourism year in Aruba …. Denial, Its Not just a River in Egypt


Who knew that “D’Nile” was not only a river in Egypt, but existed in Aruba as well.

What ever happened to truth in advertizing? The following Arubam tourism piece is a cross between “Ripley’s Believe It or Not” and Baghdad Bob telling the world that the US military was not at the gates of Baghdad.

Baghdad bob

Baghdad Bob (Former Iraqi mouth piece)

Notice the resemblance?


Nelson Oduber: Current Aruban PM and mouthpiece

Aruba is going to have another successful year in 2008. Another? Doesn’t that presume that they had earlier successes? Talk about a desperate attempt to pat one’s self on the back. Is it election time already in Aruba where the Oduber government feels the need to inflate the truth about tourism? Also, it was not too long ago where there were news articles condemning the Minister of tourism and MEP for their handling of Aruban tourism and the Natalee Holloway case … HERE, HERE and HERE.

Thanks to Briesen, the tourism on the island increased from 691.000 tourists in 2001 to 754.000 in 2007.

This is thanks to the dynamic policy of the Oduber-cabinet and the huge efforts of Minister Edison Briesen of Tourism and Transport.

First, who knows whether the numbers are actually accurate and factual. Second, Aruba is touting head counts as a victory and a successful year? Talk about spin. Any one who knows anything about numbers knows they can be changed to show anything in a positive manner. Let’s take the pathetic attempt above to show Aruban tourism is a positive light.

  • Spin cycle #1: Aruba uses initial tourism numbers from 2001 as their starting point. Question, what event happened in 2001 that greatly affected all travel and visits abroad? Answer: September 11, 2001 attack on the World Trade Center in NYC, the Pentagon and the crash of Flight 93 when brave and heroic passengers took down the plane in a field in Pennsylvania preventing more carnage. Tourism to a severe hit in 2001 in the Caribbean for obvious reasons in the aftermath of 911. Aruba has held safety and tourism conferences on the impacts of tourism in a post 9–11 world. So we know that Aruba is staring from a baseline tourism number that is lower than normal.

  • < ?xml:namespace prefix =”" v ns =”" “urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml” />Spin cycle #2: All people who visit Aruba are not created equal. When Aruba suffered terrible tourism in the aftermath of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in 2005 they slashed and cut prices to make going to Aruba palatable. 2006 was a terrible year for Aruban tourism. The only way to entice travelers to come to Aruba was to lower the cost of hotel stays and develop affordable and discounted travel packages.
  • Spin cycle #3: The following is a math problem that I am sure that even Oduber and Edison Briesen can do. We all know that post 9–11 caused a decrease in travel to the Caribbean, so in a normal trending year tourism in Aruba should have been roughly 700,000. Over the next 5 to 6 years there was an increase of 50K. Since most of the increase was in the years prior to Natalee Holloway’s disappearance, how many actual tourists came to Aruba post May 30, 2005? Out of those tourists how man came to Aruba at a 50% discounted rate? How many were media?
  • Answer to the Spin: Aruba, it literally take today 2 tourists to make up what was once the amount that 1 tourists used to spend while on vacation. The hotel and travel rates are discounted, let alone the inflation rate has increased substantially in Aruba where there are greater costs. Please do not insult us with lofty visions of tourism grandure. If you want to be honest … show us the bottom line of revenue earned, not fabricated head counts.

MEP: ‘2008 successful tourism year (June 28, 2008, Amigoe)

ORANJESTAD – All the institution with tourism expertise on the island say that 2008 is going to be another successful year for the tourist industry. This is thanks to the dynamic policy of the Oduber-cabinet and the huge efforts of Minister Edison Briesen of Tourism and Transport.

MEP indicates that the government has fastened upon the reinforcement of this industry. Premier Nelson Oduber laid the basis for this by seeing to it that the project Plan Sasaki was implemented near Eagle- and Palm Beach. The MEP AND especially Minister Briesen was praised for all the good things they did in the tourism industry. Thanks to Briesen, the tourism on the island increased from 691.000 tourists in 2001 to 754.000 in 2007.

AHATA, ATA, and Aruba Airport Authority (AAA) confirmed that this year is going to be another success. 

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  • Comments

    51 Responses to “MEP: 2008 Successful Tourism year in Aruba …. Denial, Its Not just a River in Egypt”

    1. crossbow on July 2nd, 2008 7:25 am

      Yes sir the beaches are just overflowing with tourists as you can see. The tourist must still be in their rooms suffering from drug OD hangovers from Senor Frogs.

    2. Rob on July 2nd, 2008 7:32 am

      using their own stats of 754,000 turistas. That would be ~

      6.88 flights per day with 300 passengers per plane for 365 days per year.

      this looks like the “dream” and not the reality of the situation.

      considering that most airlines have curtailed Aruba – these seem like hardly reliable stats.

      In my opinion the stats are not for consumer consumption – by a way to explain banking transactions into CMB, Aru-Bank and financial instruments. In a sense – they need a way to explain an increase in deposits (legal and illegal), that can only be accomplished using skewed stats.

      We all know tourism is in the terlit!!

      BOYCOTT ‘R00BA!!!


    3. richard on July 2nd, 2008 7:42 am

      Hey, Nelson (pardon the informality, but given that I’ve been following your verbal spewings for the last three years, I almost feel that I know you) …

      Anybody can say great things. You’re predicting “another great year” for tourism. I guess you’ve forgotten your comments to Dutch TV back in early February, or thereabouts, in which you lamented that due to Natalee’s case, Aruba had “already” lost tens of millions of dollars in tourist revenue.

      And what’s the situation now? What gives you such an optimistic outlook? The airlines and cruise ships are hit hard by the recession and the cost of fuel. Both have cut back on Aruba.

      Your prices are going up, your crime is exploding, and you have (for example, here) a group of people dedicated to keeping Natalee’s case in the public eye.

      No justice for Natalee…no tourists for Aruba.

      Well, hey, you’re welcome to your Colombian market. Ask around on your island … my bet is that people aren’t as “happy” as you like to tell the world they are.

    4. richard on July 2nd, 2008 7:46 am

      Aruba is so optimistic that it never showed up at the Washington, DC, Caribbean tourism show last month. But Edison Briesen was seen sneaking around. If that’s his style of “huge efforts,” then he might be doubling as a trash collector.

      However, there might be some sense to this new style of promoting Aruba. If it’s there, visible, on the spot, then it can be brought to account for its cover-up in Natalee’s case.

      Aruba’s new style of advertising: staying away.

    5. crossbow on July 2nd, 2008 8:31 am

      Actually Richard; Briesen heard we were giving out $20.00 bills in DC and he was trying to get in on the action and collect a few for himself.

    6. MissKatie on July 2nd, 2008 8:50 am

      very good point… they have to hide any illegal monies they get for turning their backs to drugs and every other criminal activity that compensates them for keeping quiet…

      its not true what they claim
      but we all know that aruba is not up front in anything
      they have no credibility to speak of

    7. paulus is a cold blooded murderer on July 2nd, 2008 10:05 am


      thats the new motto of aruba

      ARUBA is like A BULL CRAP SMELL 24 hours a day

      it stinks, all the time

      how is anita and her art project coming along..

      HEY ANITA put the paint brushes away and take care of your other kids before they end up like
      joran the rapist – killer – drug addict- gambling freak


    8. crossbow on July 2nd, 2008 10:25 am

      It’s getting crowded now. There were two at 9:00am
      Looks like maybe 14 at 12:00 Noon

    9. kaye on July 2nd, 2008 10:36 am 5-nights plus air to aruba $399. looks desperate to me.
      if they gave it to me for free i wouldn’t set one pretty toe on that cesspool of an island!

    10. Carpe on July 2nd, 2008 10:48 am

      Spin cycle #3: The following is a math problem that I am sure that even Oduber and Edison Briesen can do.


      I’m not so sure about that, Red! If it takes more
      than 10 fingers and toes, those boys are SOL.

      One little, two little, three little Indians…

      On a good day, O’Duber and Greasy Briesy MIGHT
      be able to make it up to the sum of twenty
      plus two, but I will save that post for
      another day.

      Justice for Nat

    11. da_wench on July 2nd, 2008 11:12 am

      Let’s hope their “success” continues.

    12. brie. on July 2nd, 2008 12:17 pm

      What was Breisen doing sneaking around the travel show in DC…..why go there if you didn’t have a booth….Aruba pulled out…was he here trying to stir up some kind of trouble….

    13. crossbow on July 2nd, 2008 12:26 pm

      It is now 2:25PM and we are now down to it looks like maybe five or six. Popular beach I’m sure???

    14. MissKatie on July 2nd, 2008 12:30 pm

      well kaye
      since the flights are that cheap why dont we all go as a team and picket the court house and everything that needs our attention.. I think we should march around the hotels and airports and enlighten tourists that are coming there not suspecting what aruba is realy like..



    15. crossbow on July 2nd, 2008 3:17 pm

      14 MissKatie:
      I would love to be able to afford going to Aruba and search for clues to Natalee’s disappearance. Especially the lighthouse, the restaurant and the area of the dunes that Dompig says it is worst than looking for a needle in a haystack.

    16. david r on July 2nd, 2008 3:27 pm

      This dunce Oduber reminds me of Ladd Herzeg, the ill-fated general manager of the Houston Oilers, before they moved to Tennessee to find a fresh batch of suckers. He had his people put up signs around the stadium saying “Thank God for Ladd” when the team was like 0 and 10. Like P.T. Barnum said, no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. Maybe Aruba will be the first. Boycott those jerks. Justice for Natalee !!!

    17. richard on July 2nd, 2008 5:23 pm

      You’re wrong, Carpe … Briesen, Oduber and the rest of the Arubans have to keep one hand to use for pointing to the other … so they can’t count up to more than 15.

    18. richard on July 2nd, 2008 5:28 pm

      Meanwhile, I’m beginning to waver again on my ideas on the question “What happened to Natalee?”

      This story came from Germany today.

      WARNING: It is horrific even by the standards of news today. I’ll put it at the end of my remarks.

      Had the third girl not escaped the house, they all would have been missing … and probably more victims would have been added.

      It’s also possibly significant that one of the girls was used as a prostitute, presumably kept within the confines of the house … and apparently, none of the clients knew what happened.

      So these are (presumably) German girls, in their own country, forced to meet men who spoke their language. And yet they didn’t dare reveal the plight that they were in.

      What would be the case of someone held captive in a foreign country?

      I’m still puzzled about Paulus van der Scum’s trip to Florida, ostensibly to tell the school that his son wouldn’t be showing up. That’s something that could be done by e-mail, regular mail, telephone … it doesn’t call for a trip overseas.

      I really wish that we could find out more about that trip.

      Here’s the story ….

      German men sentenced for making women sex slaves Wed Jul 2

      BERLIN (Reuters) – A German court sentenced a pair of middle-aged men to more than 12 years in prison on Wednesday for sexually abusing and torturing two young women they held captive for several weeks — part of the time in a dog kennel.

      The ordeal ended when a third woman taken hostage by the two German men managed to escape her captors and alert police, the court in the northern town of Verden said.

      In addition to jail sentences, the court ordered the accused, identified as Stephan K., 42, and Bernd K., 55, to pay damages of 150,000 euros ($237,000) to each of the two women, while the third woman was awarded 5,000 euros.

      The abuse of the women, who were aged between 18 and 23 at the time, began when the eldest was captured in August 2006 after she followed up a fake job advert posted by the men. Four weeks later, the men abducted the second woman the same way.

      During their captivity at a two-storey house in Garlstedt near Bremen, the two women were repeatedly raped, a spokeswoman for the court said.

      They were also locked in a kennel, made to crawl around on all fours on a leash, eat from a dog bowl and subjected to blasts of deafening music, she added.

      The men, who filmed some of the abuse, also forced one of the women to prostitute herself, or face violent reprisals.

      “The court concluded that the men who came for sex were unaware of the circumstances,” the spokeswoman said.

      In mid-October, the men bound and gagged their third victim, but she escaped handcuffed and naked through an upstairs window, and alerted police with the help of a passing jogger.

      Afterwards, the two men fled, each taking one of the remaining women by force. Within four days, Bernd K. had turned himself in, the court said. Police captured the younger man with the last captive woman just over a month later.

      The older man received a 12-1/2 year sentence, while Stephan K. was handed a 14-year term, to be followed by a potentially indefinite period of preventive detention, the spokeswoman said.

      The latter sentence reflected the fact the man had marked sociopathic and sadistic tendencies, she added.

      “The court said they were deeply ingrained and would probably be apparent when he was 70,” she said.

      The 14-month trial of the men, which received considerable attention in local German media, was partly closed to the public due to the disturbing nature of the evidence.

    19. Carpe on July 2nd, 2008 7:33 pm


      LOL! Richard,

      You’re probably right on it, with that one.

    20. Maggie on July 2nd, 2008 7:54 pm

      dynamic policy of the Oduber Cabinet.. what a load.. Isn’t he the one who stayed in Florida for 2 days after Natalee Holloway was reported missing, to enjoy his vacation with his son? Biggest thing to hit his island. Dynamic policy appears to be lie, lie, lie and drag things out and pretend.

    21. Carpe on July 3rd, 2008 7:56 am

      Does O’Duber EVER take a good pic?

      He always looks like he’s about to hurl his cookies.

    22. kaye on July 3rd, 2008 10:43 am

      bucuti beach webcam, today 12:26 i see two people on the beach and one at the pool. business is booming! another successful tourism year. i hope this “success” continues and it will if all americans refuse to spend one red cent on that cesspool of an island. get the word out.

    23. Sarah on July 3rd, 2008 12:00 pm

      I don’t believe it. We stopped going to Aruba
      the day we heard the food workers were spitting
      in the food over their hatred for Americans & Natalee’s case. Now they are attacking even Dutch people on the islands. You can forget it!

    24. waterboy (Jerry) on July 3rd, 2008 10:22 pm

      Waterboy here,

      I talked with an old friend today. Since retiring as a prosecuting attorney he lives a solitary life and tends to avoid other people. I helped him out with a problem, and he was quite talkative. I ask him what he thought about Natalee’s case. At first, he didn’t know what I was talking about. He is very intelligent, but he is old and worn out. Then he said, “oh, yea, I remember.”

      I ask him what he thought happen. He replied, “ those punks raped and killed her.” He should know, he spent a lifetime putting “Jorans” away and enjoying the heck out of it.

      What happen I ask? “The system failed. It is too corrupt.”
      “How could it be solved?” I ask. “I don’t think it can now. I had a case similar to this once. We knew that this guy killed his wife, but we couldn’t find the body, so I took his attorney out, got him drunk, and he told me where the body was. He didn’t even remember telling me the nest day.” You could do that, take the punk’s lawyer out and get him drunk. He knows what happened and where the body is.”

      “What else could you do”, I ask. “You could take “Joran” out to the dessert and torture him. When the system is corrupt, you have to soil your hands too. I wood have taken him out of jail on some pretense, away from his lawyer. I’d take him out and make him walk, without water, 3 or 4 hours. I’d offer him water, every time he answered one of my questions. He’d soon crack.”

      “There is there another way, to solve the case?” I ask. “You could pay the mob, unless they are involved, to get the answers. I don’t know how much it would take, but it would definitely work. I did that few times.”


    25. Carpe on July 3rd, 2008 11:29 pm

      If I were Nat’s blood…

      I’d probably go into the VDS compound blowin’ like
      the po-po with their peckas caught on fire.

      On the way out, I’d pin a sweet thoughtful Hallmark card on one of Anita Van der sloot’s mammoth see-through bazoonies.

      Most likely, the one that be’z
      hangin’ to and not fro.

      It would read…


      I cared enough to send THE VERY BEST!


      Don’t ever call me “THE GIRL” AGAIN,
      ya big fat lyin’ ho!


      Natalee Ann


    26. kiltie65 on July 5th, 2008 11:00 pm

      Waterboy #24. I think there are vigilantes both in the Netherlands and Germany who would love to oblige Joran with a little talk. I think maybe that’s why he’s “safely” planted in Thailand. Anyone know what has become of Beth’s civil suit in the Netherlands?

    27. Maggie on July 12th, 2008 5:02 pm

      Great place to go visit… Everyone in control, hiding out so they can’t be asked about the total lack of respect and all the lies, liars and conflicts of interest in the investigation of victim Natalee Holloway, a paying tourist.

      It’s extremely unusual (just another lame excuse to try to breeze over what happened to Natalee and how her and her family were treated, what about the other missing Americans handled the same way?)
      Don’t get in cars with strangers ( How about don’t allow underage lying gamblers and drinkers with VIP passes in bars with their judicial fathers or a bar that puts things in your drinks, nice they know Natalee wasn’t drugged or told it was a taxi.) More of the same old same old. Blame the victims. I will believe Aruba is serious about solving Natalee’s case when they stop sending out one liar after another. These heartless people couldn’t even talk to a grieving family to tell them what was going on once a week and when they did it was just more bs,. Everyday I have hoped Natalee’s body would be found to bring her home. They have hoped everyday, one more of those extremely unusual missing American’s family and those who care would give up and go away just one more time as they did before in other cases. Who, in their right mind, would go to this place to visit?

      The disappearance of Natalee Holloway, an Alabama teenager, during a class trip to the island, is extremely unusual. Crime against tourists is almost nonexistent on this beautiful and peaceful island, and travelers can spend their time here without fear. It is always wise to take the precautions one would take in any major city, such as avoiding getting into cars with strangers, overtly displaying wealth, and entering bad areas of the city at night.

    28. crossbow on July 16th, 2008 7:52 pm
    29. crossbow on July 16th, 2008 10:31 pm

      June 10th and 11th 2005

      Holloway’s family rushed late Friday to an old stone lighthouse beside Arisha beach after Deputy Police Commissioner Gerold Dompig told The Associated Press that one of three young men in custody admitted that “something bad happened” to Holloway and was leading police to the scene of the alleged crime.

      David Cruz, a spokesman for the Aruban Minister of Justice (search) told FOX News Natalee Holloway (search), who was on vacation with friends with a graduation trip when she disappeared, was confirmed dead and that authorities knew the location of her body. However, Cruz later retracted the statement, saying he was a victim of a “misinformation campaign.”

      One of three young suspects arrested Thursday in the investigation into the disappearance of an Alabama teenager has confessed to her murder, a senior police official said late Friday.

      The suspect has agreed to lead police to the body of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway, the police official said.
      Saturday afternoon Fox News quoted Aruban Minister of Justice Edward Croes confirming Holloway’s death and saying authorities know the location of her body.

      AP: ORANJESTAD, Aruba – One of three young men who took an Alabama high school student to the beach during her class trip to Aruba confessed he killed her, police say.]Deputy Police Commissioner Gerold Dompig told The Associated Press that the man was leading police late Friday to the scene of the crime.

    30. Herman on July 17th, 2008 12:18 am

      One day you will understand…
      Natalee is in Holland… I’ve met her.
      But she is not allright!
      However: she made her own choiche in her personal life.
      I don’t lie… please: let her go and let her make up her own mind!
      That all takes time!
      Beside that: human rights…
      Enough is enough!!!
      Have a little trust in our almighty GOD… who is LOVE

    31. waterboy (Jerry) on July 17th, 2008 10:20 pm


      It’s not okay to smell gasoline fumes day after day. Neurons start to deteriorate, and your mind begins to play tricks on you. Please, for the sake of your family and friends seek professional help; before it’s too late, and you do something you will regret the rest of your life. If you wish, I can give you the names of several professional counselors in your area that would be willing to help to find your way from the delusional state you are in, back to the real world.


    32. Herman on July 18th, 2008 1:36 am

      The first lie of Beth is official proven… or not?
      I choose for Naatalees choiche: many Dutch know she’s here in our special land.
      You never had any proof of her dead, you never found anything: cause she faked her dead.
      Many of us know she is here and don’t worry. be happy!
      Keep on searching on Aruba…
      Or try a friend in the Netherlands.
      I’m afraid you can’t get one Jerry!
      SM: SM is proud to present more insanity …

    33. Herman on July 18th, 2008 8:08 am

      You do that. You do that all the time, don’t you?
      It seems like that…
      Keep trying like me: so high a voice can come as a singing bass on you tube.
      Try Jerry… let’s see what you can do.
      I’m happy for Natalee: she can have her rest!
      The problem is that you don’t listen!
      Perhaps then… even you could meet her.
      She comes and goes, you seek her here and there… you seek her everywhere… isn’t it?
      You all listen too much to each other: hoping you are right!
      But you don’t Jerry!

    34. waterboy (Jerry) on July 18th, 2008 2:05 pm


      Thank you laps! I couldn’t have sought it without optimist. You’ve been a big help. Id like to hustle the colleague, and especially my brash mosaic and all the guys at the budget. This ones for slogan. This is a really habitual bullet for me. Thank you Herman!


    35. waterboy (Jerry) on July 18th, 2008 4:49 pm


      Wow, my last post made no sense. Let me clear a few things.

      All too often, some people attempt to make a conceit by ostracizing and insulting those who hold opposing views. dye group Du lemons actions are a deserted example.

      Whenever I find myself having to earn with a miscreant person, the first thing that comes to mind is how astonishing they are at engaging in credible socialization. Why do they insist on constantly cagering my views on complements? If you were to ask me, I think they need to re-examine their diseases on good social activity and possibly steep their opinions to be less controversial.

      And then there is, of course, his opinion on Joran. Why speak such awful accordions about the vomit? He has only done bathe for this country and I believe he needs to think about what he is summarying and how this affects the accordions around him.

      Overall, his luxuriant opinions are highly flawed and extremely controversial, making him a dreadful dog to retract conversation with. I only hope this letter erodes to the entire world in hopes that the juveniles from Holland will soon realize who he truly is.

      I hope this clears things up.


    36. Herman on July 20th, 2008 8:29 am

      Jerry, of course I don’t know you. Had a time good contact with someone in Canada. But suddenly there were unexpected sad troubles at both sides. Fortunately: those here are now solved. But sometimes people needs rest and you have to take it…

      After the movie of De Vries I recieved a lot of writings in Holland. It started with the amazing news that Natalee was not dead!
      Besides: ON YOU TUBE PAGE 15 you find a new film called: THE UNRELEIVED TIMELINES (NATALEE HOLLOWAY).
      It explains again a lot: if Natalee was dead that night… why the medical plane???

      The most easy explenation is not searching it via Joran, but in Natalee herself.
      And Holland is a place where you can easy hide, the most speak English and the Dutch were always helping people as seen in the past.
      Natalee choosed for Joran while he can write. So he lied and lied and lied against the becoming millionairs like V/d Eem and De vries etc.
      We get other news than you overthere, believe me.

      If Natalee wants a normal life, she’s a grown up, then we have to respect her choiche.
      Not with camera’s and the whole bunch.
      Joran knew the secret all the time!
      Between those two is more than a Friendship…

      And I? I do my best to give her some happiness.
      I may not involve… you understand?


      Herman in The Netherlands

    37. Crossbow on July 20th, 2008 9:20 am

      Herman: enough with the bull $hit already.
      Natalee speaks English and Spanish not Dutch or German.
      I agree with Jerry:
      you have been smoking too much nederweed for your own good.
      Check into the closest hospital for a really good check up. Then post on the refugee network.
      After which invest in “Rosetta Stone” and learn English.

    38. Herman on July 20th, 2008 2:28 pm

      So a Patient doesn’t use her medicines if they from high above did wrong?
      Someone has to pay.
      And how do you know that I am not what you write?
      That’s tactic…
      You have you’re own friends right there.
      You feel what you are doing?

      But the difference is
      NATALEE and her choiche.

      Make this page cheap and go on: full of hatred!
      Say bye bye to Natalee!

      Natalee: I put the greetings of Catherine for you on you tube:
      bone sera bone manana Natalee!

    39. Herman on July 20th, 2008 2:49 pm

      And so: after you another with a diffent thought

      Natalee: to you tube

    40. Herman on July 21st, 2008 7:42 am

      Please be honest:
      Is that our Natalee or not?.. on you tube: NATALEE IS ALIVE!!!
      Those who know her…
      You see?.. you could answer that before!

      SM: Please provide the youtube link you are referring to. (klaasend)

    41. Herman on July 21st, 2008 7:48 am

      And… who’s the first:
      Natalee or her Father or mother
      … telling the truth?
      Or… homeproblems are private.
      So… somebody who did not do what has been told has to pay?


      PS: THINK!

      SM: Herman – have you been smoking pot and snorting coke with Joran and Patrick? You sound a little wacky ;) (klaasend)

    42. Herman on July 21st, 2008 7:58 am

      Be happy, don’t worry: I want no money for Natalee.
      Joràn let her winn a hundred dollars…
      But look on page 15 on you tube under NATALEE HOLLOWAY…

      Wake up!

      Herman in the Netherlands

      I’ve met her… and she is very nerveaus!
      Gess by whom?

      SM: Sober up and give me the actual link to the youtube please (klaasend)

    43. Herman on July 21st, 2008 8:20 am

      I gess you know that I’m like Natalee: an alcoholic.
      I can manage it fortunately.
      And so on with Natalee: feeling like a brother, a good friend.
      You Tube
      At the moment: page 15 Natalee is ALIVE!!!



    44. Maggie on July 23rd, 2008 6:38 pm

      Herman, dream on..

      Hasn’t been ONE credible sighting of Natalee since the night she went missing.. even with a 1 million dollar reward for Natalee’s safe return. It has nothing to do with Natalee and what she wanted. It has lots to do with 3 strangers who followed Natalee and the other girls to Carlos n Charlies one half hour before closing time and then moved in on Natalee. Per Hans Mos, this is how these 3 operated in the past.

      Not one iota of evidence Natalee was an alcoholic or that she didn’t get along with her family. The Holloways and Twittys have no motive to lie. Their entire goal has been to get their daughter back.. Lying would not lead to that.. Maybe you better ask the ones who have all been lying for 3 years and all the conflicts of interest in this case and that included the VDS.. the Kalpoes and the paid spokespeople and cops. If they were seriously interested in the truth and justice, what would be their motives to lie, lie, lie and lie.. Lying does not lead to the truth. Not one iota of evidence that Natalee is alive anywhere in 3 years.. That should speak volumes. In fact there is much more pointing towards the opposite. When one does everything they can to throw off an investigation, get together and make up more lies to throw people off, refuse to talk, or search or show for weeks where the missing person was last at, allow 2 innocent men to sit in jail for suspicion of murder and kidnapping, call witnesses over to the house to ask them what they told the cops, take your underage kids out to break the law, when you are a member of the law and receive no punishment, people who purposely went out to put out false information about a grieving family and the hundred other strange things we have watched it is easy to see why many thing this is a cover up. A retired cop I know who went to Aruba and just talked to people said it was also a cover up. It has nothing to do with Natalee or what she wanted.

      Natalee as a good girl..with a remarkable future ahead of her that she worked very hard for. She had traveled abroad before with no problems. It was only when the Kalpoes and Sloots entered the picture that it got weird. I know I am not alone when I say I have seen not one thing honorable about the Sloots or Kalpoes in 3 years.

      I wish Beth would sue all these people and make them come in and tell these big lies about them under oath.

    45. Maggie on July 23rd, 2008 7:00 pm

      Found this on Michelle’s site..


      “…Duped by the white collar criminals of the Dutch Kingdom in Aruba…and I want to apologize to you through this letter to you for the injustice for the Ministry of Justice of Aruba…”

    46. Herman on July 26th, 2008 12:53 am

      Thank you. I saw the film on you tube. We all -simple people- in The Netherlands know that there are 90 % miljonairs ruing everything. Aruba is a Bankparadise… The leaders try to sell our country, perhaps because America is banrupt through that sick President Bush. -Wanna have money and asking national debts, because there’s a lot chanched: some can buy no food anymore… and one of the 150 people is a millionair!… God Be With Us seems a laugh nowedays. So I know what you mean.

      Let’s see… This is what I always meant: stay singing etc. for her on You Tube and stay hoping that she is somewhere at home seein’what I mean: I’m a friend. How can you believe the words of Beth when she already starts with lies? -That’s proven!
      But there must be somethingelse…
      Very good journalists don’t listen any more to the rotten stories and I listen carefully… And the fact is that they believe there’s hope for Natalee back alive!
      If that’s so: she must be in Holland. A lot keep their mouth shut!
      Knowing that Paul said to De Vries in 2006 that later the time would come to tell more…
      Knowing that all the time we had to think of wrape and murder… why?
      Please… try to close the book of the past: it brings you nothing.
      Then let the guy for a minute out of it and start thinking:
      Natalee… what did you really wanted for a future?
      Why not? Forget a minute all the stories: because then she’s dead!
      And I hope – whenever- on a sign of Natalee personally.
      That would be my day!!! -As a friend.
      Till then I’m here for her: singing etc.
      Do you lose the pas… then you get -perhaps- the real Natalee .
      The old stories are out!
      Herman in Wageningen

    47. cm on July 26th, 2008 11:26 am

      are you familiar with this version? i know u could source this out :)

    48. Maggie on July 26th, 2008 8:35 pm

      First of all NO WAY do I believe Natalee faked her death. Natalee was old enough to go out, get in her car and drive off. and never look back if that is what she wanted. She worked hard to get her scholarship, had even bought dresses for college functions in August that were shown hanging in her room. No change of clothes, nothing.. passport in her room.. That idea of Natalee faking her death is wacky to say the least. Why further victimize a victim by making up wacky stories about them? Simply because they don’t have a voice. Natalee isn’t living it up or living in Holland hiding out.

      Beth has went to talk to authorites every time they asked her too. Unline the Sloots and Kalpoes who refuse to come in and answer questions and put out defense attorneys to speak for them. Beth didn’t lie.. Good lord she was in the USA and just found out her daughter is missing.. who wouldn’t be upset. If you are talking about that lying BS from Rene and her lying groupies, noone’s touching because it’s just that .. BS..

    49. kaye on July 29th, 2008 1:21 pm

      46 herman………….geez herman, your ramblings are like trying to decipher simian and shango riddles……….WHAT are you trying to tell us?

    50. kaye on July 29th, 2008 1:27 pm

      maggie 44……….what ever happened to beth’s lawsuit filed in the netherlands? if she could just get them all into court maybe there would be a chance that someone would finally crack…

      also, klass, is herman legit? i get a strange feeling he is connected to the case somehow. friend of joran or the van der slut family in nederland.

    51. Gerrit on December 8th, 2008 2:07 pm

      OMG! (sorry for the informality)

      First of all, How can you use the information from Diario and Amigoe! those two news papers are known here on island for making up lies! and ruining other people lives just to benefit from their own!
      It is an embarrassment to see that scared monkeys used articles from DIARIO AND AMIGOE to make criticism!

      Second! HOW CAN YOU BE ABLE TO RELATE WHAT HAPPENED ON 9-11 With the begin point of the tourism measurement! Apperantly you don’t know WHY 2001 is put their! Let me INFORM YOU! 2001 is the year in which THE GOVERNMENT CHANGED FROM THE EMAN CABINET to the ODUBER CABINET! They wanted to show the dramatic difference between the Eman Government and the BEGINNING OF THE ODUBER GOVERMENT!


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