Aruba’s Standard of Living is Going Down … Aruba Hit Harder than Many Countries Because Nothing is Produced There

 

Aruba is suffering the same economic slow down that is affecting many countries these days. Their standard of living is decreasing. However, in Aruba its worse due to the fact that nothing is actually produced in Aruba. Since Aruba is limited to the manner in how to deal with price shifting, Aruba may have to increase its hotel rates. If they make these increases, Aruba may not be able to compete with other islands in the region. Talk about a catch 22.

Mehran concluded that just like the rest of the world, our country is coping with ‘a fundamental shifting’ in the prices of oil, food, and metals.  He compares the current situation with the oil crisis in 1973.  He says that the price shifting is fundamental, because the prices will never go back to the old level.  This hits Aruba harder, because nothing is being produced here.  To maintain the same quality of life and pay for it, Aruba will have to increasing the rates of the hotel rooms; that’s the only way.  But this is at the same time a risk, because the island must also be able to continue competing in the region.  

Standard of living is going down (Amigoe: 6/1/2008)

Parliamentarians have listened very attentively to the explanation of the Central Bank on the financial future of Aruba last Wednesday.  

ORANJESTAD – The standards of living will drop within the foreseeable future, now that the inflation remains unprecedentedly high and there are no solutions.  Even the Central Bank of Aruba (CBA), whose main duty is watching the stability of the prices, can not do much.

That’s the message that the president of the Central Bank, Hassanali Mehran delivered to the Finance Standing Committee last Wednesday.  Mehran emphasized that several factors are impelling the inflation up and the monetary policy – the package of measures that a Central Bank can take to keep the florin stable – is of little use.  That can also be noticed in the trailing credit growth, which was only 4 percent in 2007.

Mehran concluded that just like the rest of the world, our country is coping with ‘a fundamental shifting’ in the prices of oil, food, and metals.  He compares the current situation with the oil crisis in 1973.  He says that the price shifting is fundamental, because the prices will never go back to the old level.  This hits Aruba harder, because nothing is being produced here.  To maintain the same quality of life and pay for it, Aruba will have to increasing the rates of the hotel rooms; that’s the only way.  But this is at the same time a risk, because the island must also be able to continue competing in the region.  

Mehran anticipates that it won’t be long before the population will have to settle for a lower standard of life.  That development is ‘irreversible’. 

Another development we are going to cope with is the effect on the crisis on the international financial market.  “Several financial institutions have lost a lot of money and are now extra careful with the granting of loans.”

Aruba will also experience this when she wants to take out a loan abroad.  Another important development that “fortunately had no effect yet”, is the threatening recession in the United States and its effect on our tourism.  “From the figures of the past high season it appears that there are no differences yet, but we must be very watchful of what the rest of the year may bring.”

ALTERNATIVE

Due to these developments, CBA expects the inflation to structurally stay high and now that monetary intervention has no effect, we must look for long term out of the box solutions.  Indexing the salaries to keep the standard of life up to level is just a temporary solution, emphasizes the Bank, all the more because it jacks up the prices and our country gets in a price-wage spiral.  Mehran is of the opinion that the time has come for the government and utility companies to seriously start thinking about alternative energy sources, like wind and sun and be less dependent of petroleum.

“A lot of investments make sense with the current prices.  Some utility companies said in the past that they will do something about it when one barrel of oil starts costing 30 dollars.  One barrel costs 135 dollars now and nothing is done yet.”

Mehran emphasizes that we do not need to totally abandon the petroleum as source of energy, but set off when the demand for oil becomes too big.  He is at the same time of the opinion that something needs to be done to stimulate people to use less energy.  “I see those huge cars that consume a lot of fuel.  How many hills do we actually have here in Aruba that we need SUV’s for climbing them”, said Mehran jokingly and then added seriously: “If they want to do that, fine, then they must pay.  There must be incentives for those that want to be environment-conscious.  There are currently several hybrid cars on the market and consumers must be stimulated to buy these.”



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  • Comments

    66 Responses to “Aruba’s Standard of Living is Going Down … Aruba Hit Harder than Many Countries Because Nothing is Produced There”

    1. MissKatie on June 3rd, 2008 2:25 pm

      aruba is sinking
      sinking
      sinking

      Sunk!!!!

      no hope for resolve until they do right by natalees family

    2. Carpe on June 3rd, 2008 3:32 pm

      Yupppp…

      Lies, Aloe, and lizard boops.

      It just don’t get no better than this!

      Wahoo Aruba

      (Boycott Dat Suckaaaa!)

    3. Carpe on June 3rd, 2008 4:01 pm

      “Mehran is of the opinion that the time has come for the government and utility companies to seriously start thinking about alternative energy sources, like wind.”

      Hey, they have an endless resource of wind sittin’ high atop 19 Montanja. Just contract that Anita Van der sloot to paint you a “3 Dogs Playin’ Poker” oil on canvas.

      Sneak up behind that ol’ stanky scudder, and
      throw a string around her!

      Oil & Electricity, just say NO.

      -justice for natalee!

    4. katablog.com on June 3rd, 2008 5:03 pm

      There’s one thing that Aruba should have produced that they didn’t: the truth!

    5. Patti on June 3rd, 2008 5:39 pm

      Yep, they would have been alot better off,

      explaining the fact that they have this little problem…

      ANYTHING would have been better than what they did…

      and

      We caught them, red handed…

      Thanks to the Chicago Videos.

      .

      LOL!!!!

      Oil and Electricity…

      Just SAY NO!

      and MEAN it!

      .

      Definately,

      Stay out of Aruba!

      .

    6. caesu on June 3rd, 2008 5:50 pm

      aruba should have unpegged their currency with the dollar while the dollar was falling.

      now the are getting dollars in, but have to pay back the loans and interest in euro’s.
      only way out is to take out a new loan from the netherlands.
      but that’s a temporary measure.

      it was such a bad move to base their economy entirely on one sector: tourism.
      maybe the other sector, the drugs trade is going to fill in.

    7. joran and paulus are killers on June 3rd, 2008 6:16 pm

      i hate aruba

      let it die – just like joran and every other piece of crap that sits on their fat asses and does nothing about justice for Natalee.

      let the island slip into the night. I DONT CARE

      but see, its an island
      Natalee was a person.

      let it sink slowly into the ocean never to be seen again. who cares what happens to that evil disgusting wretched hell hole of an island.

      and as far as the innocent people of aruba
      yes, there are some there of course. and yes
      its a shame but you know what ? you can move, go somewhere else, or take action. see, here is the thing, you have choices. UNLIKE the murder of Natalee, she had no choice she was KILLED bu paulus and joran and the other MORONS that have helped them escape their day in court.

      got it ?

      good. now go put that in your crack pipe you wretched pigs.

    8. joran and paulus are killers on June 3rd, 2008 6:18 pm

      k2 brothers are in trouble

      its coming – -

      you heard it here first

    9. A New Girl on June 3rd, 2008 6:19 pm

      But, hey—something IS actually produced in Aruba…

      Young, Dutch & Suriname Rapists and Murderers who prey on young female American tourists ! Let’s not forget they also produce plenty of CORRUPT LEGAL OFFICIALS. Guess every Country does have it’s share of those, however. Can’t get around it.

      And, I AGREE with #6, Caesu and your last paragraph….really was such a bad move to base Aruban economy on primarily on tourisim, isn’t it? As the old saying goes—then to bite the hand that feeds you—even bigger mistake.

    10. dennisintn on June 3rd, 2008 6:26 pm

      it was a really bad move to count on lies to protect their precious tourism. being honest and up front with what happened to natalee and who was involved instead of trying to blame the victim and her family and friends just didn’t work out for them. they still haven’t learned that lesson. briesen and rudy croes are fools for following that road. it worked for max devries and bud larsen but that was before the the internet blogs gave people with memories that the lies told yesterday weren’t the lies they told today.
      dennisintn

    11. Carpe on June 3rd, 2008 6:27 pm

      “Mehran emphasizes that we do not need to totally abandon the petroleum as source of energy, but set off when the demand for oil becomes too big. He is at the same time of the opinion that something needs to be done to stimulate people to use less energy.”

      Yo Mehran,

      Here’s a suggestion. Get Angela Muzzlebutt & Julia Renfro off their electricity using computers for a few hours a day.

      Lots of benefits to that…

      They will no longer be able to slander our
      Natalee Ann, and her dear friends & family anymore…

      This will stop people from thinking Aruba
      is such a knee-high pile of sh.

      …and maybe you can send them two ol’ hoe bags out to go rake a yard, or plant some daisies or sumpin’… ya know, add some beauty back
      to that Aruban he– hole in which you live?

      Just a few ideas. Elmo B
      an endless well of them!

      —-

      FOR OUR NAT!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZF8O0BjcJg

      JUST FOR PAT.

      http://tinyurl.com/58k34s

    12. misskatie on June 3rd, 2008 6:29 pm

      THEY SURE BIT THE VERY HAND THAT FED THEM!!!
      ARUBA HATES AMERICANS … WHY? BECAUSE WE ARE A PROSPEROUS COUNTRY…

      WHY WOULD ARUBA HARBOR TWO OR SIAMESE AND A COUPLE DUTCH TREATS…

    13. misskatie on June 3rd, 2008 6:30 pm

      TWO SIAMESE KALPOOPS

      AND A FEW DUTCH TURDS

    14. Patti on June 3rd, 2008 6:57 pm

      Speaking of the Dutch…

      Have we heard anything more from

      our dearest, Dear, Queen Bea?

      .

      Hey, Dutch Queen Bea…

      I know there was something I was going to ask you,

      but, I, simply can’t remember what…

      So, I’ll ask you THIS, instead:

      How are those immagration numbers going?

      In America, we say:

      ‘Houston, we got a problem’

      So…….

      .

      Remember, you did say,

      if they screwed up one more time…

      .

      I do say…

      ’tis looking mighty bad

      for your vacation

      hide-a-way.

      .

      Sooooo…….

      Are you part of the solution

      or

      part of the problem?

      .

      I can’t figure these Dutch people out!

    15. Patti on June 3rd, 2008 7:14 pm

      Wouldn’t it be ironic if the Dutch,

      who were sooooo famous for protecting

      those fleeing Communism,

      lost Aruba to an arrogant,

      Arawak King!

      .

      At this point, it would be prudent

      to get out of Aruba…

      and

      stay out!

      .

      Trust me, it’s not going to be pretty!

      .

      Powder your Nose…. Dear.

    16. joran and paulus are killers on June 3rd, 2008 7:16 pm

      when people dont stop evil.

      they become it

      well, well, let me introduce MR EVIL which includes that numbskull HANS MOS and JOE TACOPINHEAD.
      both contributing to satan’s work

      go to hell both of you. where you belong

    17. Patti on June 3rd, 2008 7:18 pm

      Ohhhh…

      Then we say:

      Over and Out!

      .

    18. brie. on June 3rd, 2008 7:38 pm

      “I cannot let this happen to my friends son”, meaning Joran and Paulus…I believe he had everything to do with with Natalee’s disappearance…Stratten is a pig and looks one too…he gave the orders…Oduber would of had the power to oversee all of this but choose not too…why do criminals take up residency on this island…Aruba the island of heat as now become the island of ice cake….

    19. joran and paulus are killers on June 3rd, 2008 7:54 pm

      kalpoes cleaning their car, but they dont know anything………ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

      right………..

    20. Patti on June 3rd, 2008 10:40 pm

      Aruba is all a facade.

      Carefull now…

      Don’t let anybody know!

      .

      They kill good people

      and

      protect the bad.

      .

      Like Deepak, himself, said:

      ‘Your own Father… Unbelievable!!!

      ‘Just tell the Truth…

      .

      And, Satish:

      ‘Yeah, Yeah, Yeah…

      .

      And, Joran:

      ‘I should have killed you, when I had the chance’

      .

      Justice for Natalee
      and ALL the Others!

    21. Ray on June 3rd, 2008 11:53 pm

      Being that Aruba is part of the Dutch kingdom, why are there no windmills producing electricity,clean water,Air Conditioning..It should look like a little Holland. They dont even need Oil for fuel. They have a very good supply of wind. The wind off their LIES should power a few windmills.
      BOYCOTT ARUBA JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
      SUPPORT FOR BETH AND DAVE

    22. Ray on June 4th, 2008 12:16 am

      Aruba you will see no tears from me no matter low your economy sinks. If you get hungry to bad.
      If I want to help someone it will be to help the Holloways find NATALEE.

      BOYCOTT ARUBA JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
      SUPPORT FOR BETH AND DAVE.

    23. joran and paulus are killers on June 4th, 2008 5:33 am

      im so old, when i was growing up there was no drinking age, i was done drinking at age 19. i never walked home from anywhere without my shoes and i dont know anyone that has ever done something like that…. steaming pant load of lies from the gambling, drug addicted, drunken killer.

      when paulus picked up joran in the family death machine at 4:00 am paulus made sure that the shoes disappeared forever, buried them after he finished burying Natalee..

      She is not in the water.

      they were never at the beach.

      all lies

    24. Bearlyhere on June 4th, 2008 6:14 am

      They shouldn’t be so negative. They do produce something there. What about Anita’s delicious paintings?

    25. Carpe on June 4th, 2008 8:10 am

      Morning Bearly!

      er uh…

      I hear those Nit’r-buggy Van der sloot original

      paintings fetch a hefty sum! Some of the higher

      end ones have been rumored to keep Joran in the

      same pair of tennis shoes for up to a week!

    26. Vicki on June 4th, 2008 8:19 am

      They just dont get it….What FOOLS… they would rather talk about tourism than a human being…what a shame…They say most of the ppl on the Island are good???If you were a good person, you would tell what happened to another human being…on another note where was that 12 year old for a week???what gives with this place???They have no brains anymore from all the inbreding that is going on there…Im sick of this EVIL place. They will all rot in hell from the secrets they keep. HEY NADIRA…EVEN BIG PPL LIE….STOP THE LYING PPL…

    27. Smartguy on June 4th, 2008 8:23 am

      You guys are so funny….

    28. brie. on June 4th, 2008 9:07 am

      Delicious sporter walked home without his shoes….my foot!!!!

      No body, no case…there was a body!!!

      A mental institution or prison….neither took place with Straaten….Oh, I can’t let this happen to my friends son….

      Dompig, this is the final phase, Natalee is buried in the sand dunes…tip from a drug addict

      That stupid letter Paulus wrote about Natalee running away….

    29. joran and paulus are killers on June 4th, 2008 9:32 am

      paulus is the devil

    30. joran is a devil worshiper on June 4th, 2008 9:36 am

      dont you just want to knock the teeth out of these punks, just knock em out.

    31. brie. on June 4th, 2008 10:18 am

      Nadira says everybody lies…no not everybody lies just your sons and everyone else involved with Natalee’s disappearance…

      Only a looney bin or a criminal would wash their car at 3 AM…so what are the Kalpoes doing for a living….washing cars…

      Deepak says Natalee fell getting out of car and hit her head….what you really mean is she hit head trying to get out of the moving car because of what was happening to her…

      And Anita says, it’s only one girl….

      Straaten, Joran you can go to a mental institution, I can arrange it, or jail….he didn’t do either one…

      Dompig, this is the final phase, Natalee is in the sand dunes….a tip from a drug addict relative..

      Premedation, kidnapping, rape, all these things the boys could of been convicted for…but nothing…and every time I see the picture of Ric Smid he looks like he ate something that disagreed with him….a servant of crime…that sour puss maybe looks that way when justice needs to be served and appears in the limelight…

    32. kaye on June 4th, 2008 11:03 am

      agree ray #22…….no tears for aruba. from day one they knew right from wrong. they had a choice. more than natalee had. they chose wrong. they chose to lie, coverup, destroy evidence, lie some more, torture beth and dave, lie some more. hey aruba, sorry about your luck. actually, a cat 5 hurricane would be too much to hope for right now :) but i’m ever hopeful!

    33. da_wench on June 4th, 2008 11:09 am

      I wish Ben would make that friggin island disappear!!!

    34. MissKatie on June 4th, 2008 11:10 am

      brie

      how terribly brutal they ALL treated her..including pauulus…all of them with no concious .. heart or care…for someone elses feelings…

      brie

      this makes me wonder what else pauulus…anita joran… and kalpoes have done prior to natalee … that we are not aware of ..

      theres more to this story….

      they all will have to stand accountable someday somewhere for their actions…if not here.. before the presence of god…

      what realy irks me is that the kalpoes are suing dr phil… can you believe that .. they helped kill natalee and want to profit from it.

      .bazaar

      joran and pauulus would have done the same and were in the process when the tape came out…. there went that down the tube..

      money hungry savages!!!

      PAUULUS GOING TO THE BANK TO DRAW MONEY OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TO PAY SOMEONE OFF…ITS JUST DISHEARTENING… JUSTICE FOR NATALEE

      pauulus couldnt even cut it as a judge thank god… he makes a better criminal..

      how sickening that all those officials. prosecutors judges… and were paid off to look the other way

      no integrity.. corruption at its worst….
      these idiots involved arent even from aruba

    35. brie. on June 4th, 2008 11:11 am

      Standard of living going down the tubes, so is the number of tourists going to Aruba….September of this year AA is canceling direct flights to Aruba on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays to and from New York, making it hard for business men to travel through the week and no new tourists for 3 week days, also American Eagle flights from San Juan to Aruba and St Maarten will be canceled….

      I’m sure we will see even a larger decline of cruise ships heading for Aruba….this means higher prices on everything for the island…more people out of job…more crime…vacation in the US…support our country…lots of things to do and see, North, South, East and West…Aruba can’t even find their own missing persons…of course, they didn’t look to hard….

    36. Sharon Chicago on June 4th, 2008 11:15 am

      I still do not understand how Joran, Deepak and Satesh got away with murder. All the evidence adds up and who washes their car at 2 in the morning..only killers do that.

      I really don’t believe they will get away with murder. They will pay the piper in the end and he will be wearing a red suit, have a tail and a pitchfork when he comes to get them!

      What is the sporter doing these days???? Any updates/sightings???? What about the Siamese twins Deepak and Satish???

    37. brie. on June 4th, 2008 11:22 am

      Aruba does produce some things there….like pimps, perverts and prostitutes…!!!! And paint by number artists like Anita….

    38. brie. on June 4th, 2008 12:23 pm

      Just read on the internet that gas prices in Aruba is $12.03 per gallon…say an average tank can hold maybe 18 gallons of gas, that is over $216.00 to fill up a tank….by, by car rentals…horse and buggy time…but even at that horses can’t be pulling buggy’s around all day long in that heat…and taxi drivers have to pay for their gas plus try to make a living…

      Aruba is way too expensive, too far to travel and way to unsafe….I guess it will become a full blown island for shipping and transporting drugs…

    39. Carpe on June 4th, 2008 1:08 pm

      DOH!

      Oh man… more bad news!

      More American Airlines
      flights leaving Aruba.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkyxTx6gY-4

    40. joran is a devil worshiper on June 4th, 2008 1:50 pm

      as aruba continues to sink.

      all i can do is smile, because i hate the (*^#@&$^*&#^$^#&$^*#&$^&#^ place

    41. brie. on June 4th, 2008 2:43 pm

      MissKatie…I’m sure many of us have had many sleepless nights over what happened to Natalee and the brutal and cruel way Natalee’s family was treated….over and over again…and Tim telling Dave to stop digging in the garbage dump looking for his daughter on her birthday…I can only imagine how sick he and Tim were after the overwhelming smell in all that heat….and then Aruba came along and dumped even more garbage…

      Sharon Chicago…they got away with it all…before you even add up all the things that happened that night, they were guilty from the very beginning…premedation, kidnapping and rape…and then… no body no case…Paulus and Straaten…a series of things happened all through that early morning point to murder….even Get Smart would of figured that out….

      Hey Satish, you had bad dreams in your cell about Natalee, just wait until the demons from the movie Ghost come and carry you off….

    42. Patti on June 4th, 2008 3:34 pm

      I’m glad to see that people are seperating themselves from the island. Although, it is troubling to me that the Netherlands always seems to leave a bloody trail behind, everytime they pull thier ‘colonial’ occupation out of a country.

      Look what happened to India…

      Thank God we had Ghandi to teach us his peaceful ways, but even with that, there was an enormous amount of blood spilt in South Africa, racial upset and, eventually, an underground of militants that would cut off your ears, poke out your eyes and remove your tongue and lips for speaking against the oppressors. It wasn’t long before they were killing one another. By then, Ghandi had died and was replaced… finally, we have made a little progress, only to be faced with a diamond frenzy. Now, it is for the diamonds that people are suffering.

      There is no doubt those that think that Human Slavery should never be abolished… the Arawak Nation, being one of them. So there continues to be human trafficking, human suffering and the exploitation of waaaaaay too many children. And the Netherlands is a big player in all of this, because of all the other countries in Europe, it has the loosest laws prohibiting the trafficking of women and children AND the worst track record for inforcing a ‘human slave’ condition through their colonialization. They live as kings among paupers… lusting after the prohibited, pleasures of the flesh.

      True Arubans need to think about THEIR futures. They outnumber the forces that are in Aruba, yet look upon themselves as being unworthy, powerless; many of them falling into the trap of illegal drug use, alcoholism, gambling and womanizing to try to solve the problem, thus being caught up in the ‘life’ that will soon mean their deaths.

      AIDS, HIV, Hepatitus B and C, prison time and general poor health that accompanies the results of years and years of drug abuse which leaves broken families living in sub-human conditions; are all concerns we have for Aruba, but; like I said before… these are the same things that left India and South Africa in a stage of unrest for decades.

      I think the Netherlands needs to be more responsible. If pulling out of Aruba means placing the country into the hands of an Arawak tyrant who refuses to abide by the rules of the United Nations, the State Department and even the rules of the Netherlands, themselves, whom have invested, literally, millions and millions of dollars into the development of the island; I think they need to rethink their position. Simply to throw more good money after bad, knowing that the current government is not working with a budget, nor keeping books of their spending and who’s own Prime Minister is skimming from the top to assure a beautiful get-a-way of his own in Spain, overlooking the Mediteranian; is a very bad idea. Especially, when you consider the amount of development that needs to be done, just to take care of the homelessness. Their children walk about barefoot, while their Arawak King lines his pockets with the money that YOU give to him. He has created his own ‘Little Havana’ where only the crooked, criminal can get ahead.

      I find it AMAZING that in over two-hundred years of occupation, the Dutch never built, even one windmill. What does that tell you? Aruba was producing something and perhaps its’ location is a hint as to what that something is… It must be convenient to have Aruba so close to the other Arawak Nations, Venezuella and Columbia, where they think nothing of selling a child into a life of hard labor in the cocoa fields.

      .

      Queen Bea:

      Please open your window and smell the stench that has come to be carried in the wind because of YOUR Aruba!

      .

      Americans, get out, stay out and never go back!

      Boycott Aruba!

      .

    43. MissKatie on June 4th, 2008 3:50 pm

      brie
      you know how weird that you would mention the demons in the movie ghost
      because that is what I have often though too..
      I have seen the movie several times.. and it gave me the creeps at the end…

      satish if you happen to come in here which I doubt you and your brother could resist knowing what we are saying.in the room about you… here it is…………
      I SUGGEST you:
      go rent the movie !!!GHOST!! and watch the whole movie and wait till you see the ending ..

      where the black demons come to carry the evil guy away…

      well that is how I picture your ending will be when you take your last breath!!!you and anyone that commits murder…and live evil..

      YOU AND YOUR BROTHER AND AND ALL THOSE INVOLVED .NEED A REALITY CHECK BIGGTIME!!!.
      IT’S REAL.DUDE .

      IF YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD NIGHTMARES IN JAIL YOU AINT SEEN NOTHING YET!!!!

      WHEN THE WRATH OF GOD is upon you.. and the devil whom you so faithfuly served…

      takes you to the den fire

      you can socialize all you want with all your homies..

      its no joke… someday you will cry out for mercy like I am sure natalee did

      but there will be none for you….

      NATALEE IS WITH GOD

      SHE SERVED A GREAT MASTER..

      YOUR MASTER IS THE DEVIL!!!

      MARK MY WORDS!!!!

    44. MissKatie on June 4th, 2008 3:55 pm

      P.S THE DEVIL HAS HIS ELITE PIMPS HE USES ON EARTH THAN DISCARDS THEM LAUGHS IN THEIR FACES WHEN ITS ALL OVER AND HE HAS NO USE FOR THEM… LIKE THE KALPOES AND THE SLOOTS DID NATALEE WITH NO REGARD FOR HER LIFE…

      IM SERIOUS … GOD .. IS LOVE.. AND HE WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO TORMENT MUCH LONGER

    45. Carpe on June 4th, 2008 4:26 pm

      #42
      I find it AMAZING that in over two-hundred years of occupation, the Dutch never built, even one windmill. What does that tell you?

      Patti,

      Perhaps they simply felt they were somewhat overrated and a bit gauche… and when approached with the windmill erecting concept, they just threw up their arms, and were all like… Nahhhh mannn, f. it! We are so done with the windmill thing at this juncture, it’s really not even funny?

    46. yoyo muffintop on June 4th, 2008 8:07 pm

      “IM SERIOUS … GOD .. IS LOVE”

      #44 – If God is love, why did he make Natalee go through a brutal rape and murder (as you say).
      Lotta love there.

    47. misskatie on June 4th, 2008 8:17 pm

      yoyo
      I could spend my whole life trying to explain it to you
      but you would find criticism in anything I or anyone has said to you…
      will someone xplain to yoyo
      because I just dont feel like doing a debate on why god allows things to happen…he didnt make her go through it… dummy!!

    48. yoyo muffintop on June 4th, 2008 8:58 pm

      #47 – I gotta feeling you won’t explain because you cannot. You’re just not bright enough. imo.
      But, as you say in #44 (HE WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO TORMENT MUCH LONGER), I guess it’s good that God’s going to stop the torment soon. But I’m curious as to why he would allow such torment in the first place and does he have a time table. I mean, you claim they have been doing this kind of stuff for years. When will this loving God stop it?

      Good suggestion on the movie Ghost though – It’s torture for a guy to watch that movie front to back. Your right, that is hell…for a dude at least. Chicks (and maybe Satish)…heaven.
      That’s what you meant right?

    49. Carpe on June 4th, 2008 9:12 pm

      Hey Yo,

      Maybe I’ll be surprised and God will
      answer my prayers and dispense some
      of that love in the Kalpoes, Joran,
      and his dad’s heads this weekend, eh?

      I always keep the faith.

    50. Patti on June 4th, 2008 9:32 pm

      Carpe:

      I wasn’t trying to be funny.

      I suppose that in the last few decades, we have found the need for alternative energy and turbo energy was introduced and erected in many areas of the U.S. But the original use of the windmill was to provide water to the farmer’s crops.

      My point being that the Dutch were never interested in any long-term benefit for Aruba or it’s people. Just as they have done in the past, their colonialization, simply means using another slave-class to serve the needs of their masters… in the case of Aruba, I believe the needs of their masters were women, children, drugs and a place to launder their money.

      So now, we have a class of people that are supposedly free, that cannot be liberated because of the continued ties to organized crime; mainly, human trafficking, drug manufacturing and distribution, drug trafficking and money laundering… those were the ONLY resources that were utilized by the Dutch. They never had their eye on the future of Aruba, but, rather took what they needed to support their own needs and left Aruba in a state of reliance. If you are totally reliant on everyone else for your real needs, food, water, clothing, housing, etc. then you will never prosper at being independent.

      Someone said they made a mistake by investing all their money into the travel and tourism industries, but even that industry was one that was built to fulfill the needs of their masters, the Dutch; and I must say, it has all the perks to go with it including sex tourism. Sometimes things just aren’t THAT funny… besides I think enough people have had their fun, and, now is the time to find a solution.

      .

      Yo Yo:

      Was it GOD that tied Natalee to that rock? Or was it in defiance of God that she was tied there. God is love, but he doesn’t live in the hearts of every man… only the ones that take the time to come to know him. It’s always been our choice.

      Good

      or

      Bad

      That’s what it boils down to.

      .

      Miss Katie:

      Like Steve said, it will be up to the Lord to exercise justice against these men. The sin they committed was as much against God as it was Natalee. In fact, it can be said that Natalee was persecuted because of her belief in Him. She died in the Lord, and none of their torturous ways could take THAT away from her. Perhaps, we will find a hero in Aruba… but, if not, we know that we always will have a hero in Jesus, the Prince of Peace.

      Vengence is mine, sayeth the Lord. Not a word from his mouth will ever come back unfulfilled, so we can rely on that!

      .

      Hang in there.

      Yo Yo is a troll.

      Take it as a complement that she seeks to discredit you. It can only mean one thing:

      You’re on the right track.

      .

    51. Patti on June 4th, 2008 9:47 pm

      Yo Yo:

      Leave Miss Katie alone, you tormenter!

      We’re not going to waste our time arguing with you about God. It’s not becoming. You’re not really interested in God; besides, knowing him doesn’t have anything to do with being bright, educated or even a scholar. It has to do with the heart. Another thing Aruba DOESN’t have.

      .

      Boycott Aruba
      Justice for Natalee
      and ALL the Others!

    52. Carpe on June 4th, 2008 9:48 pm

      I know you weren’t, Patti. I was just
      joshin’ around with u, being an azz.

    53. Patti on June 4th, 2008 10:00 pm

      Carpe on June 4th, 2008 9:12 pm

      Hey Yo,

      Maybe I’ll be surprised and God will
      answer my prayers and dispense some
      of that love in the Kalpoes, Joran,
      and his dad’s heads this weekend, eh?

      I always keep the faith.

      **************************************

      Is THAT your idea of being funny?

      HAR! HAR! HAR!

      I’ll bet Natalee’s family will have that

      comment framed to hang over the fireplace.

      ******************************************

      We want Justice for Natalee, not for us,

      but for her and HER family.

      I, hardly, think that making jokes about

      THEIR faith is what they had in mind.

    54. Carpe on June 4th, 2008 10:06 pm

      # joran is a devil worshiper on June 4th, 2008 1:50 pm

      as aruba continues to sink.

      all i can do is smile, because i hate the (*^#@&$^*&#^$^#&$^*#&$^&#^ place

      I most certainly hear – ed
      that, bro bro. The feeling is mutual.

      It is the toitiest of all toilets! (no puck)

    55. Patti on June 4th, 2008 10:16 pm

      Case in point:

      Maybe this isn’t the right Forum

      for this discussion.

      .

      Sorry, Carpe…

      I can take a joke.

      Didn’t mean to jump all over you.

      .

      I’m just growing impatient and am near

      the point of fully giving up on any

      chance that we, as men and women, are

      going to be able to solve anything.

      .

      One comment that Steve made, really touched me.

      It was the part about not wanting us to perish.

      I am fearful, that we spend too much time blogging

      and not enough time drawing closer to the Lord.

      .

      Again, I’m sorry…

    56. Carpe on June 4th, 2008 10:17 pm

      Patti,

      Stick a f-ing carrot in it, you poser,

      and give it a rest.

      I don’t talk about your daily

      squirrelly crap about whacking an Arawak

      in his nuts, and tying

      the Statue of Liberty to a rock.

      A GRIP > Get one.

      Look for it all this week ON SALE

      at WAL-MART.

    57. yoyo muffintop on June 4th, 2008 10:23 pm

      #50 Patti: But God let Natalee be eaten (according to you). Why would he do that? If God could not have stopped that event from happening, why do people pray to God to have certain “events(so to speak)” happen?
      Huh. Strange form of Love if you ask me. Wouldn’t you say so as well?

      carpe – maybe. got any pics of swayze makin’ a clay pot for hashish satish?

    58. Patti on June 4th, 2008 10:41 pm

      Yo Yo:

      To correct what I said…

      I said that the Arawak Indian practices human sacrificing and cannibalism. But, as to whether they ate Natalee, or anyone else for that matter, is not a part of my own personal knowledge. One can only speculate.

      But, one thing for sure,

      people, like you,

      will eat their words.

      .

      But, don’t worry, Yo Yo…

      Our God is merciful…

      He won’t take any pleasure

      in torturing you or having

      you watch as his priests

      drink your blood, before

      they rip your heart out.

      .

      Lucky YOU!

    59. Patti on June 4th, 2008 10:55 pm

      Carpe:

      I’m a POSER?!?!?

      Atleast, I base my theories on FACT…

      Not FANTASY!

      .

      Tying the Statue of Liberty to a rock?

      Is that REALLY what I said?

      .

      Maybe you need to get the midnight special

      edition of Hooked on Phonics,

      as it appears that you have a problem

      in reading comprehension.

      .

      Oh yeah, I forgot… we’re not allowed

      to disagree with the

      All-Knowing Carpe.

      Takes all the fun out of it.

      .

      Looks like someone has already put a carrot

      up your arse, as it is evident, for the past

      couple days; you’re ready to rip anybody apart.

      .

      Please yourself, have the last word.

      .

      Nite…

    60. Carpe on June 4th, 2008 11:34 pm

      G’night Patti.

    61. kaye on June 5th, 2008 2:59 pm

      dear monkeys…..don’t forget the reason we all come here. because we cared from day one and we still care. hope and pray for resolve. love ya :)

      j4n
      boycott aruba

    62. Patti on June 5th, 2008 5:53 pm

      Sometimes Carpe and I butt heads.

      Our hearts are in the right place.

      I think we have a love/hate relationship.

      but…

      I love him.

      .

      When I first came,

      I thought he was Natalee’s boyfriend.

      How could you help but love him?

      So don’t worry…

      We get over it.

      Atleast, I do.

      Do you, Carpe?

      .

      (waiting to exhale)

    63. Carpe on June 5th, 2008 7:49 pm

      Anybody who is all about the Natalee

      is alright with me, Patti!

      I ain’t mad atcha.

    64. kaye on June 6th, 2008 6:32 am

      carpe………you have a way with words, you’re too funny…..i’m forever LMAO :)

    65. misskatie on June 7th, 2008 2:24 pm

      aruba produces:

      murderer’s (LIKE VANDERSLOOTS.. KALPOES)

      rapist( SLOOTS .. KALPOES )

      human trafficking (SLOOT) and whoever assists him

      voyager films ( SLOOTS KALPOES AND THE PIMP GANG)

      drug labs( aruban officials?))

      prostitution houses ( aruban officials?)

      ARUBA ENABLES & HARBORS FUGITIVES

      THEIR SOURCE OF INCOME
      EVIL…..

    66. YOU'RE ALL FULL OF SHIT on October 17th, 2012 10:02 am

      If you haven’t been on Aruba you shouldn’t say anything about it, I’ve personally spent my vacations there for years and I love it, the people are even more friendly than the arrogant Americans in my own country, and besides how many people are kidnapped and raped in our own country and completely forgotten about?
      GROW PEOPLE THIS SHIT HAPPENS DAILY IN OUR COUNTRY SO STOP ATTACKING A SMALL ISLAND FOR ONE STUPID INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED YEARS AGO!!!!

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