Scared Monkeys Radio Daily Commentary – Monday, February 11, 2008 – Convicted Criminal Asks For More Lengthy Sentence
- Dana comments on the curious case of a Michigan man who requested a longer jail sentence in hopes that it would be more effective in his rehabilitation.
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Joran Van der Sloot/Peter R. De Vries Tapes: Why Some Pundits in the Natalee Holloway Case Should be Seen and Not Heard
Spare us the spin that Joran Van der Sloot made a “false confession”. Joran’s attorney Joe Tacopina floated that concept early after the Peter De Vries tapes were released and it was shot down immediately. Tacopina referenced the concept that “false confession” exists and then in the next breathe said, but not in this case. However, it would appear that his fellow partners in crime, defense attorney, have followed his lead.
Here is a helpful hint to pundits who discuss the Natalee Holloway case … know the topic that you are pretending to be an expert on. This message especially goes on to Defense attorney Ann Bremner from the Nancy Grace show.
There is nothing more pathetic than to hear an attorney on a cable show pretend to know what they are talking about just because they are an attorney. There is also nothing more hideous than defense attorney forwarding an agenda of one of their own. The comments seem to be even worse when one listens to a defense attorney ramble with some on the most ridiculous excuses for suspects. In this case its using the theory of “false confession”.
How could anyone compare two cases that were more different in how the suspects handled themselves with regards to confessing to a crime?
(Go to minute 5:25 to hear the comments in question)
GRACE: OK. Out to the lawyers, Randi Karmel, Richard Herman, Ann Bremner.
Ann Bremner, you`ve got a guy that says I hope you don`t find her body because my semen will be in, on, and about the body. You`ve got him describing her underwear and he`s accurate according to her mother. This is not just caressing on the beach. Now he says she died of a convulsion and he disposed of her body?
ANN BREMNER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, Nancy, either this is another iteration of statements he`s given before, which there have been scores of different statements, or in terms of the confession and proving this case, remember John Mark Carr. I killed JonBenet, coming home with the shrimp and a champagne. And, in fact, he didn`t. They tried every which way to show that he did it, but in this case, there is corpus delecti, no evidence.
GRACE: But the big difference – Ann, Ann, I appreciate that. Thank you.
BREMNER: Yes.
GRACE: Randi Karmel, the difference is that Joran Van der Sloot was seen by witnesses with her the last known person to be with her when she was alive. He confesses that he had sex with her. I can`t imagine that that was voluntary. And then disposes of his – of the body. Now, if it had been an innocent death, an accidental death, why not call 911, Randy?
Actually, the difference is that not only was Joran Van der Sloot one of the last known people ever to be seen with Natalee Holloway before she disappeared forever. Joran Van der Sloot had denied any involvement in Natalee’s disappearance or death from the outset. Joran has never admitted in an interview or in statements to police that he had involvement in the crime. (That is statements that we know of unless any were destroyed from 5/30/05). Until the Peter R. De Vries tape was released, Joran had denied all. Now, when he thought there was no camera or public audience … he made the admission and confession.
Let’s compare that to the situation with John Mark Karr’s “false confession as defense attorney and so called pundit Anne Bremner wants to do. From the outset John Mark Karr stated that he had involvement in the crime against Jon Benet Ramsey. Karr never said he did not do it, then he did, then he didn’t. He admitted that he killed Jon Benet and stuck to the story. Even after it was determined through DNA that John Mark Karr had no involvement in the Jon Benet murder case, he still insisted he did. John Mark Karr wanted to be found guilty.
The two cases have absolutely nothing in common when it comes to the “false confession” defense. To say that “false confession” is what Joran Van der Sloot did is just plain lazy punditry. Joran Van der Sloot has denied all involvement from day one and has lied along the way in his denials. Maybe it’s time that cable shows get pundits on that know the subject matter and are familiar with the cases, rather than the only criteria being that they are a lawyer.
Posted February 10, 2008 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Bizarre, Crime, John Mark Karr, Joran Van der Sloot, Media, Missing Persons, Murder, Natalee Holloway, WTF, You Tube - VIDEO | 19 comments |
Barack Obama on a Roll and with the Momentum … Hillary Clinton Left Scratching her Head and Making Campaign Changes
Think Hillary Clinton and her campaign are not worried … think again.
After this Saturday’s clean Democratic primary sweep in Nebraska, Louisiana and Washington state, Barack Obama finds himself with a narrow pledged delegate lead and all the momentum. Full delegate count can be found HERE.
Sen. Barack Obama swept Saturday’s Democratic contests, giving him considerable momentum heading into Sunday’s Maine caucuses and three primaries Tuesday.
Natalee Holloway: Joran Van der Sloot … “I was High on Drugs During De Vries Tape” … Yeah, Sure You Were
JORAN, YOU WERE NOT HIGH … YOU WERE CAUGHT!!!
Who are you kidding Joran, if you were high on pot the Range Rover you were riding in it would have looked like this “exclusive” photo below. It’s time to face the fact Joran, every one thinks you are guilty and are involved in Natalee’s disappearance. Its not just in America, but in the Netherlands and Aruba as well. As Jossy Mansur has previously stated,
“No one believes his story about being under the influence of marijuana because he never stuttered, never hesitated, his eyes didn’t become vague or unfocused, he was in complete command of himself all the time.”
(Pic Hat Tip: Klaas)
So first Joran Van der Sloot admits to the world that he had involvement in Natalee Holloway’s death and disappearance. Then, when the secretly reported tapes are released … Joran Van der Sloot states that he was only telling Patrick van der Eem what he wanted to hear as if he knew that he was a crime reporter. Then, we are given yet another excuse stating that Joran was high on pot when he made the admissions.
Joran Van der Sloot claims he was trying to impress Patrick, trying to be a thug life player. However, no where during any of the taped conversations does Patrick portray an individual who is impressed by what Joran is saying. If anything, Patrick is more appalled that Joran and his friend would have gotten rid of a body without knowing where Natalee was dead or not.
It is obvious that Joran Van der Sloot is a calculating liar. He tells just enough of the story to make himself sound tuff without divulging the details and exact names. Joran Van der Sloot is not stupid. However, just because a person has changed the names of certain people who had involvement in the crime, does not mean that there was not a crime committed.
(Dumpert.nl … Even the Dutch want no part of Joran)
It seems that many of our Dutch blogging “vriedens” at Dumpert.nl also agree that Joran Van der Sloot is responsible and complicit in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. They believe he is lying as well and are doing some great blogging on the story.
Posted February 10, 2008 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Bloggers, Crime, Joran Van der Sloot, Jossy Mansur, Missing Persons, Murder, Natalee Holloway, World, WTF | 59 comments |
Natalee Holloway: Aruba Justice Minister Rudy Croes Says Joran Van der Sloot is Persona non Grata’ …
What goes around comes around and its Joran Van der Sloots turn at the wheel.
The tide is turning against Joran Van der Sloot and his family as even those in Aruba who once ran cover for Joran Van der Sloot and his involvement in the disappearance and death of Natalee Holloway are jumping ship. The continued tourism issue in Aruba as well as the smug and rotten attitude has finally warn thin on Aruba. Justice Minister Rudy Croes has stated that Joran Van der Sloot is considered persona non grata and other than for judicial investigation, Joran van der Sloot is no longer welcome on the island. Rudy, you are a dollar short and nearly 2 years and 9 months late.
“Let Joran be the first example of a Dutchman that is not wanted in Aruba”, said the minister, who also knows that judicially, it’s going to be difficult to really deny him admission to the country. “I simply do not want him here.”
Rudy Croes, you are going to have to to do better than just not allowing Joran Van der Sloot back in Aruba. You are going to have to provide … Justice for Natalee.
As Jossy Mansur, Managing Editor of Diario stated, the Aruba people are fed up with Joran and his actions.
The people here are really fed-up with that character. The worst that could have happened to him is the video recording made by De Vries. Voices are now being raised to kick him and his family off the island. Others want the U.S. to extradite him.
What has been amazing during the case of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway is the path of destruction that Joran Van der Sloot has left in his wake. Obviously, there is Natalee Holloway and the pain he has and continues to cause Beth Holloway, Dave Holloway, Jug Twitty and the rest of Natalee;s family. Then there is the Aruban people and its tourism economy as we have stated from the outset … what is good for Joran Van der Sloot, is bad for Aruba. Now in Joran’s most recent saga of not being able to keep his mouth shut and need to gloat, Joran implicated his one time friend Daury in the disposal of Natalee’s body and got his father Paulas Van der Sloot in a world of trouble.
Also Joran’s father, lawyer Paul van der Sloot seems to fall into disfavour with the Justice-minister. The justice-department does not rule out the fact that the lawyer has smuggled in a cellular phone for his son, when he was in prison. Joran mentioned that when the Dutch crime journalist Peter R. de Vries was secretly recording him. Justice is now investigating whether Van der Sloot must be dismissed as member of the special committee on the prison system. The same applies to his participation in the LAR-committee.
Joran Van der Sloot is a walking menace who cares of nobody but himself. He has no respect for authority, including that of his own parents. As Beth Twitty stated in an interview with Nancy Grace:
Posted February 9, 2008 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Corruption, Crime, Joran Van der Sloot, Missing Persons, Natalee Holloway, Paul Van der Sloot | 104 comments |