Aruba: Coast Guard Apprehends 12 Illegals … Boat in the Water with a Blue Drum, Hmm …


Isn’t this picture priceless, a boat in the waters of Aruba with a blue drum. Imagine the number of boats that are not caught.


Coastguard apprehends 12 illegal persons near Aruba

ORANJESTAD – Around 03:00 in the night of December 1, the cutter Panter of the Coastguard for the Neth.Antilles and Aruba noticed an unlit motorboat that had motor problems and was drifting.  When the Panter approached the boat, it turned out that the boat didn’t have valid registration papers.

There were 12 illegal persons with the Colombian nationality on board and two crew members from Venezuela.  The boat is towed to Barcadera.  The illegal persons were apprehended and handed over to IASA.  The two crew members were handed over to the Police Corps of Aruba.  (Amigoe, 12/3/07)

Posted December 5, 2007 by
Aruba, Crime, Illegal Immigration | 86 comments

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    86 Responses to “Aruba: Coast Guard Apprehends 12 Illegals … Boat in the Water with a Blue Drum, Hmm …”

    1. brie on December 5th, 2007 10:38 am

      What’s in the blue drum—taking someone back to Venezuela?

    2. Vicki on December 5th, 2007 10:45 am

      What the blank was in that blue drum????
      EVERYONE ATTN go back to last thread on Natalee… I listed quite a few ppl to contact….
      Prayers for Beth especially, she is hurting so bad right now. Please ask God to give her her baby back with TES being out there…

    3. Pat in Alabama on December 5th, 2007 10:52 am

      This is probably a show to prove that nothing goes in or out of Aruba waters unnoticed – er – except drugs, but certainly not a boat dumping a body. I heard someone from Aruba say radar would catch any boat going out…

      I don’t trust anything these people say or do. I will never go there whether Natalee’s case is solved or not, and I will do all I can to influence others this way for their own safety. It will make me very happy if none of them ever to the US either.

    4. brie on December 5th, 2007 10:53 am

      How many boats have gotten through…probably plenty

      And Dompig issues them illegal driver licenses when they get there!!!!

      Not only are they illegal but could be bringing alot of infectious diseases with them

      Must be something most attractive in Aruba to those that are illegal

    5. brie on December 5th, 2007 11:17 am

      Looks like the same blue drum that sits in the Kalpoes front yard

      I guess blue drum’s are not hard to come by

    6. Scott on December 5th, 2007 11:36 am

      A friend of mine works for the Office of Naval Intelligence and he told me for every one of those boats they catch, 10 more get through.

    7. brie on December 5th, 2007 12:09 pm

      So I wonder how many illegal’s are on that island

      I know the amount of immigrants is approximately 30,000, that’s alot of people

      There’s an increase in crime in Aruba-strolling downtown or any other tourist area after dark USED to be generally safe

      Also diseases:

      Dengue Fever
      Hepatitis A
      Hepatitis B
      Typhoid Fever
      Rabies and Plague-animal bites
      Fungal and Parasitic Infections
      Insect born diseases
      And there are more*******

      Vaccinations recommeded

      Hepatitis A
      Hepatitis B
      Typhoid Fever
      Booster Tetanus and Diphtheria

      Recommended points of travel:
      DON’T GO !!!!!!!!



    8. brie on December 5th, 2007 12:29 pm

      High rate of motor vehicle trauma

      Illegal immigrants and immigrants without valid driver licenses…issued by the person responsible…Dompig!

      Avoid driving on the roads

      Avoid walking on the sidewalks-street shootings

      Car bombings

      Street shootings

      Known drug dealers

      Crack houses

      Freed criminals






      Stalking of young American girls

      Dismembered bodies

      Dead bodies floating in the water

      Human bones on the beach

      Do not drink the water-contaminated

      Do not eat uncooked food

      Do not walk barefooted-fungal & parasitic infections

      Do not drink beverages with ice

      Do not eat fruits or vegetables that you have not washed in bottled water and peeled yourself

      Do not handle the animals-bites resulting in plague and rabies

      DO NOT GO TO ARUBA!!!!!

    9. da_wench on December 5th, 2007 12:39 pm

      Is that Drew Peterson’s blue drum?

    10. brie on December 5th, 2007 12:56 pm

      Engine trouble huh! What’d they over a body

    11. Achilles on December 5th, 2007 1:17 pm

      A dozen aliens and drum full of drugs.
      one Happy CORUPT Paradise!!
      They can find a tiny boat in a huge ocean, but they can`t find one girl!!

    12. Vicki on December 5th, 2007 1:24 pm

      #9- wouldnt surprise me…hahahahahahaha

    13. brie on December 5th, 2007 1:50 pm

      Two crew men handed over to the police of Aruba….that’s the same thing as doing nothing…

    14. Deetch on December 5th, 2007 2:07 pm

      It’s nothing, just Denis Jacobs arm floatie.

    15. Miss-Underestimated on December 5th, 2007 2:51 pm

      This is just propaganda for the dog and pony shows Aruba has been putting on since Natalee disappeared. .
      Aruba wants ppl to think they fight crime.

      Yeah, they fight crime. And I am Petra….

    16. Richard on December 5th, 2007 3:13 pm

      Remember that Gerald Dompig said they knew the whereabouts of EVERY boat in the waters the night that Natalee vanished … and so it was impossible that she could have been taken to Venezuela or elsewhere?

      There’s only ONE impossibility in this case … that Aruba would tell the truth or be honest.

    17. JusticeforNatalee on December 5th, 2007 3:24 pm

      No surprise here:
      JUST IN!!
      by Greta Van Susteren


    18. JusticeforNatalee on December 5th, 2007 3:26 pm

      Let’s hope Joran stays in jail.

      Aruba, are you serious about truth and justice?

      Or, is this just another fake out? We are neither fooled nor amused.

    19. Vicki on December 5th, 2007 3:30 pm

      BRIE- thanks for listing all of these things…Ive spent all morning tracking down the travel advisory person in charge of this diseased place and finally found him. Hes out today,but I will call him tomorrow…depending on what he says I just may hand out his number…they transferred the last guy who I was in contact with, probobly cause he had to much compassion…

    20. Vicki on December 5th, 2007 3:33 pm

      word from GRETA…KALPUKES are FREE….

    21. brie on December 5th, 2007 3:42 pm

      We’ll never hear another about this from Aruba

      We already know you have boats coming and going from Venezuela all the time….and not necessarily at night. But if your trying to tell us how carefully your watching…forget it!

      Probably another one of your stunts…how convenient for you, the boat just happened to have engine trouble and was drifting. So now tell us…what if a boat didn’t have engine trouble and wasn’t drifting, then I guess you wouldn’t know. What a pile!!! That’s like saying…”see mommy I’m reading the Bible…”. “Look at what a good job we doing patrolling…so who’d you borrow the boat from.

    22. Richard on December 5th, 2007 3:56 pm

      Well, if Greta is right … let’s just hope there’s something on Joran Scum of the Ditch.

    23. Richard on December 5th, 2007 4:06 pm

      I just read the transcript of JQ Kelly’s interview on the Greta show. His belief seems to be that there never was any “new evidence” to begin with.

      I’m still hoping that the Dutch have something that they haven’t disclosed, but it’s increasingly hard to be optimistic.

      So there are two things ahead: Joran’s hearing on Friday, and the decision by Dec. 31 whether anyone at all will be prosecuted.

      Meanwhile, the water search is to start soon. If Natalee is in the water and can be found, let’s pray that she WILL be found.

      That will give Aruba no alternative but to do something … at least, as far as I can see.
      Even our own politicians will be forced by the wave of public fury to demand action.

      If no body is found ….

    24. Melissa on December 5th, 2007 4:08 pm

      To #8 – Do not forget to mention that one cannot walk down the streets of Aruba without getting bitten by a dog because there is SO SO much crime that everyone has to protect themselves with attack dogs, high walls and fences and alarm systems.

      And when you get bitten – you will be blamed because you should not have been walking there????

    25. Rombo on December 5th, 2007 4:16 pm

      They will get the white boy, islanders loathe Anglo-Saxon people there. The protection is gone now, nothing to keep from attacking.

    26. ayfit on December 5th, 2007 5:05 pm

      #116 previous post, careful what you say about jqk, Justice will scalp you. I,myself agree with you. You know, when I hear the word Aruba,I think of Natalee. I believe everyone all over the world does the same. You just can’t help but think of Natalee when Aruba is mentioned. Therefore the boycott will work.

    27. Rombo on December 5th, 2007 6:13 pm

      @Richard on December 5th, 2007 4:06 pm
      Dutch have very little to say there. Its nqas dealing the cards.

    28. mayan_moons on December 5th, 2007 6:34 pm

      Hey Rombo,

      Where did the *white boy*(s) protection go?

    29. Jerry from Ohio on December 5th, 2007 7:25 pm

      I Am sorry but I am not PC on this but, I believe that the only way justice will ever be served in the NH case will have to be outside of the law . JMO
      Two shots one to the heads and one to the hearts
      and am also sorry to say this but if it is Joran, Paulus and the Kalpos it wouldn’t bother me a lot.

    30. Allan K on December 5th, 2007 7:29 pm

      More smoke and mirrors. Aruba sealed their fate 2 years ago. They also put a mother and father in agonizing pain for which there is no escape. Hell with Aruba and their lowlife.

    31. Richard on December 5th, 2007 7:34 pm

      Here’s something that I don’t quite get ….

      In the early days (i.e., when news of the arrests and the “new evidence” had just come out), JQ Kelly said he thought that he knew what said “new evidence” was, and that it had something to do with information clearing jurisdictional boundaries. So, at least, is how I read him.

      But in his interview with Greta vS, he seemed to say he thought that there was no new evidence, at all, or very little.

      So what happened to his idea that he knew what the new info was, and his apparent belief that it was indeed important?

      I’m not totally convinced that a media battle isn’t being waged here … with JQK talking DOWN the prospects for his client even as Tacapino talks UP the prospects for HIS client … that’s what lawyers do, isn’t it?

      But it may well be a fading hope.

      Let’s wait to see what happens Friday. It doesn’t look good, but I don’t know what may or may not be going on behind the scenes.

    32. Richard on December 5th, 2007 7:37 pm

      Jerry from Ohio (#29) — It would be even better if, first, they (hell, bring the witch Anita too) could all be somehow lured or gotten off Aruba.

      Interrogated (and not Dutch style) for what they know. Given a choice, perhaps, between cooperating 100%, with possible mercy, or not cooperating, and certain … well ….

    33. Richard on December 5th, 2007 7:38 pm

      Is Greta von Susteren another Dutchie?

    34. Richard on December 5th, 2007 7:40 pm

      OK, here’s a question. Is there anyone reading here who honestly thinks that there is NOT a conspiracy among elements of the Aruban government and law enforcement … who thinks that the investigation was derailed early because of sheer, unbridled INCOMPETENCE and nothing else?

      It would be interesting to know this. I don’t see how anyone can doubt the existence of a cover-up, but what do I know?

    35. brie on December 5th, 2007 7:57 pm

      ….#19.. Vicki your welcome..I have more to post but I keep loosing them….they’re going somewhere

      Posner was unavailable for any comments…excuse me….He met Natalee…and you and Paulus met Natalee the night before at the Excelsoir.. Criminal that your are and your friend Paulus. Giving such rights as to Joran, underaged. Any penalty there..I would think so! So again Aruba turn your heads.

      There’s much to say, Aruba is an unsafe island…parents alike thought because of all the advertisements they children were safe. I would call that false advertisement…and I would think every parent has the right to sue. Joran got into numerous fights with Mountain Brook boys of Alabama….enraged his temper…Joran gets into fights all the time..he had no rights being in Carlos and Charlies that night. He was on a perverted trail of seduction….which he has done 20 times before..’ Rape and Escasty!!!

    36. Carpe Noctem on December 5th, 2007 8:13 pm

      Is that the picture of the runner’s boat… or

      am I looking at the Arubian Coast Guard Vessel?

      We could attach a righteous air horn to that

      thing, and terrorize some friggin’neighborhood



    37. brie on December 5th, 2007 8:20 pm

      They’re are way too many reasons to avoid the island of Aruba…..way to much danger to our Americans. We need to protect ourselves….TRAVELLERS ADVISORY…DO NOT GO TO ARUBA….Denuge Fever previliant…known drug dealers…spiking of your drinks, infestation of dangerous diseases, don’t go anywhere without your shoes..that means the beach…infectious fungus…by all means don’t drink the water…watch what you no trust those have not washed and cleaned your food…no fruits or vegetables unless you cleaned and washed them yourselve..

    38. diverboy on December 5th, 2007 8:36 pm

      …and by all means…stay away from the sloots..

    39. brie on December 5th, 2007 9:10 pm not a safe travel destination….unsafe to
      American’s…but we need to get the message out…Protect our unknowing American’s…The island is infested with disease and corruption….DO NOT GO

      Alert to the travel agencies…notify your travel people to the hazards of Aruba….this would be a violation if they are notified in advance. And you could well be held responsible for not. Notifying the public of the necessary precautions needed to visit this island….Failure to do this would result in law suits..And you would be responsible!

    40. Carpe Noctem on December 5th, 2007 9:17 pm

      This will be over WHEN…

      The Holloways fire up a warning flare,

      saying they’d like to call it a day.


      Natalees Ann’s body is recovered


      Other than that, you can keep gettin’

      my free complimentary boot in your arse,

      ARUBA. -j4n

    41. brie on December 5th, 2007 9:47 pm

      Lawsuits could prevail for all the damage done to the The Mountain Brook students … they’re lives obviously affected ..and their vacation ended in tragedy….infected by Joran…an unage person that caused violence with visitors and paying guests…their were previous fights with the Mountain Brooke boys..he was obviously a menace.

    42. JusticeforNatalee on December 5th, 2007 10:02 pm

      #26 Hi, Ayfit. LOL

      I don’t think JQK was giving up; I think he was calling out Aruba.

      I bet he also had to witness first-hand the emotional trauma it caused Beth and Dave to be jerked around yet one more time.

      If Mos proves JQK wrong, so be it! I’m sure JQK would be

    43. JusticeforNatalee on December 5th, 2007 10:10 pm

      Message to Hans Mos:

      This is a SIMPLE case of three punks taking one young woman named Natalee away on a car ride from which she never returned

      Stop blaming the family
      Stop blaming DEA agent
      Stop blaming media

      Blame the notorious ALE for giving the suspects a 10-day pass
      and for not collecting forensic evidence right away.

      Now why don’t you prove JQK wrong and prosecute and convict these goons?

    44. brie on December 5th, 2007 10:16 pm

      Criminal Posner gave Joran the priviledges…if not Natalee would still be here!

    45. katablog on December 5th, 2007 10:53 pm

      What’s in the blue barrel? That’s easy, special “frosting” for the Frosted Flakes a certain investigator is so fond of.

      Hans Mos better at least take the Kalpukes to trial on the information he says he has regarding cleaning up a crime scene and disposing of a body. I think once Kalpukes realize they are on the hook, someone will start screaming.

    46. Jerry from Ohio on December 5th, 2007 10:55 pm

      #32 Richard, that would also suit me if they ALL were made to confess but about that mercy thing I am not so sure, Yanno ??

    47. Susan on December 5th, 2007 11:03 pm

      Natalee Holloway Case: Judge Denies Release Appeal

      Last Edited: Wednesday, 05 Dec 2007, 2:56 PM CST
      Created: Wednesday, 05 Dec 2007, 2:55 PM CST

      ORANJESTAD, Aruba — A judge on Wednesday refused to overrule the release of two suspects in the 2005 disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, the prosecutors’ office said.

      The suspects, Surinamese brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, were released from jail on Saturday after a judge ruled the evidence was not strong enough to continue holding them on suspicion of involvement in Holloway’s death.

      Prosecutors challenged the decision at a closed session Tuesday, but were rebuffed by the court, said John Pauly, communications consultant for Aruba’s prosecutors’ office.

      The Kalpoe brothers — Deepak is 24, Satish is 21 — were arrested for a third time in the case on Nov. 21 along with a third suspect, Joran van der Sloot, who remains in jail. Prosecutors said the latest arrests were justified by new evidence.

      Holloway, of Mountain Brook, Ala., was last seen leaving a bar with the three suspects on May 30, 2005, hours before she was scheduled to return home with fellow high school classmates celebrating their graduation on this Caribbean island. She was 18 at the time.

      All three have denied any role in the disappearance.

    48. yoyo muffintop on December 5th, 2007 11:05 pm

      To all media
      From the Public Prosecutor’s Office
      Date December 5, 2007
      Pages 1

      Denial of pretrial detention of S.K. and D.K. in the case of Natalee Holloway upheld by Court of Appeal

      Today, December 5th, 2007, the Court of Appeal for the Dutch Antilles and Aruba upheld the decision of the judge of instruction not to order pretrial detention of the brothers S.K. and D.K. Last Monday the Public Prosecutor had lodged an appeal against the judge’s decision of Friday, November 30th. Yesterday the appeal was heard by the Court in camera. The S.K. and D.K. brothers appeared at the hearing, assisted by a number of lawyers. The hearing took two hours. During the hearing the acting Attorney-General presented the objections of the Public Prosecutions office against the denial decision of the judge of instruction. The lawyers of the suspects presented their views. At the closing of the hearing the Court announced the Court’s decision for today.

      In its essence the reasoning of the Court reads as follows: notwithstanding an extensive and lengthy investigation the case file against the brothers S.K. and D.K. does not contain direct indications that Natalee Holloway has died as a result of a violent crime against her. Equally the case file does not contain direct indications of the suspects’ involvement in a violent crime against Natalee. Also taking into account the actual phase of the investigation – 2_ years after her being missing – the Court does not see sufficient facts and circumstances substantiating serious grounds for the suspicion of the suspects’ involvement in the crimes for which pre-trial detention has been requested by the Public Prosecutor (which is manslaughter or battery/assault causing death).

      This judgment of the Court is the final judgment on the pretrial detention issue of the brothers S.K. and D.K. : the law does not provide for further appeals. In itself the decision does not preclude further investigation and prosecution.

      The investigation is being continued by the police under the authority of the Public Prosecutor.

      The hearing for the pretrial detention of J.v.d.S. will be held Thursday December 6th..

    49. JusticeforNatalee on December 5th, 2007 11:46 pm

      Donations are needed to cover some expenses of the search team. If you wish to donate, please do so immediately.
      Here is the link to Debbie/BFN message posted by Klaas:
      (Scroll down)

    50. Richard on December 6th, 2007 12:19 am

      Jerry from Ohio (#46) … I’d be inclined to give mercy to the first ones who confessed. That’s the incentive to get confessions.

      But as far as I’m concerned, after reading what our good friend Yoyo posted in #48, my immediate inclination is to eliminate them all.

      Sorry, I’ve been drinking a bit … but the emotional impact of the prospect of the prolonged saga winding to an end with the scum of Aruba still free and not held to account is mounting.

      I wonder if Nelson Oduber will dare go overseas.

    51. Ray on December 6th, 2007 1:56 am

      IMO the only way Natalee will ever get justice is by Devine intervention, or the actions of a gang of vigilantes.
      I began to see a coverup after I learned that all the locals had the Same DNA.
      Yes Greta is acting like a Dutchie.

    52. yoyo muffintop on December 6th, 2007 2:13 am

      Pass the dutchie on the left hand side.

      whatever bad you gotta say about the dutch – just remember they are home to the most kick ass city in the world: Amsterdam. imo.

    53. Dolf on December 6th, 2007 3:56 am

      Greata van Susteren is a Dutch sounding name.

      passes to yoyomuffin

      =from Amsterdam

    54. brie on December 6th, 2007 9:19 am

      Seems like most everything we have been told by the perverts is generally related to Natalee hit her head. Except for the lie about about running away.

      We dropped her off at the Holiday Inn and she fell getting out of the car and hit her head.

      She fell in the water and hit her head and drowned
      And Joran says he feed her to the sharks. So he confessed this to his father while visiting friends in GA and they told someone who reported it to the FBI. And also told the headmaster at school the same story.

      She fell on the beach and hit her head on something.

      They could of easily injured Natalee’s head but say she fell in case she’s ever found.

      She was also robbed of her personal belongings. Her purse, money, credit cards, debit card, the jewelry she was wearing. This is trivial compared to loosing her life. But it is still another thing they did to her.

    55. brie on December 6th, 2007 9:32 am

      Kidnappers, rapists, murderers, liars and thieves.

    56. Libby on December 6th, 2007 9:35 am

      Richard and Jerry…amen! We can only hope that if justice isn’t served within the law that it will be served outside the law.

      As for the mercy thing, I would tell them mercy would be granted if they confess and tell what happened….after they did…I would say…ha I lied…no mercy loser(s). Everyone lies, remember?

      I start the torture between their legs though and work my way up.

    57. brie on December 6th, 2007 10:19 am

      There are car bombings, buildings burning down, street gangs, shootings, illegal immigrants coming from terrorist and gorilla locations. What are they going to do next…blow up the oil refinery?

    58. Vicki on December 6th, 2007 10:19 am

      Dutch Consulate office in Washington them.. I just did and gave them a piece of my mind…maybe we need to march in Washington..I bet the Kalpukes told on URINE and they will be the next suicide..or over dosing on drugs with their hands cut off and body burnt on a cross.

    59. Pat in Alabama on December 6th, 2007 10:24 am

      ” … does not contain direct indications that Natalee Holloway has died as a result of a violent crime against her. Equally the case file does not contain direct indications of the suspects’ involvement in a violent crime against Natalee. Also taking into account the actual phase of the investigation – 2_ years after her being missing – the Court does not see sufficient facts and circumstances substantiating serious grounds for the suspicion of the suspects’ involvement in the crimes …”

      If you look at the wording of this text as provided by Yoyo, it is pretty obvious they are lining up to finish this up once and for all and let them go for lack of evidence. They probably hope that after an initial backlash, tourists will forget about it and come back.I am praying for God to even the score with all these evil people.

    60. Vicki on December 6th, 2007 10:27 am

      You can also email…it wont do any good…the idiot Leonia said that OUR COUNTRY SHOULD DO SOMETHING…I say drop a freakin bomb on that VOLCANIC ASHE.I am so sick of this…

    61. brie on December 6th, 2007 10:37 am

      14 people in that little boat…if it even happened… the engine quit because of overload….surprised it didn’t sink, but I think it was all a farce…it took place way too conveniently…

    62. brie on December 6th, 2007 10:51 am

      #56…Yeah Libby, hang ‘em by their balls, that should make some noise…and when we’re done with that, put ‘em the blue drum and dump in the sea with weights.

    63. brie on December 6th, 2007 11:13 am

      You know….minutes before the cruise ship leaves Aruba with it’s next stop in Caracas, Venezuela….you see drums and containers being loaded onto the ship…there is no one else around, the dock is deserted except for those few putting these things on the ship. Wonder what was in them…what could they have needed from Aruba…just a thought!

    64. brie on December 6th, 2007 11:33 am

      Why the cruise ships go to Venezuela…I don’t know…it was completely frightening and very uncomfortable….garbage and trash hanging from above wiring of some type….people living in the side of a mountain with a back wall of mud and they work for bricks to build the sides of their cave. A piece of tin for the roof, if your lucky enough to have one, hundreds of people. There is no electricity, no running water and no toilets. Then as the tour bus moves down the hill the military is running with rifles shooting at someone. When we get into the town, the military is in full uniform with loaded rifles standing on top of the buildings. A few of the homes, those that have any money, have brick walls or fences with wiring enclosing their home full of electricity.

    65. brie on December 6th, 2007 11:36 am

      And besides that…there wasn’t a bathroom on the bus…which most of desperately needed…so my advice would be…do not take a cruise in the direction of Aruba or South America…you’ll be sorry!

    66. brie on December 6th, 2007 12:15 pm

      Vicki, thanks for all your efforts…Ok our country should do not something….you cannot re-enter the US from Aruba unless quarantined with complete testing, physicals and the assurance that known diseases are not brought back to the US.

      I also have more diseases and descriptions for our readers…I will post those a little later

      I am wound up this morning…so off to the gym…hope they don’t have to replace their equipment!!!

    67. Richard on December 6th, 2007 1:44 pm

      Brie, Amy Bradley was LAST seen in the company of a member of the ship’s crew in the disco, at a time when it was closed to the public. This happened just about as her cruise ship was docking at Curacao, one night after it was docked in Aruba. (Members of the crew tried to take her to Carlos ‘n’ Charlies, but she wasn’t interested.)

      A passenger in the bar below the disco saw the crew member and Amy go up the stairs to the DJ’s booth, which was secluded. The crew member came down the stairs for ONE drink, then went back up.

      Shortly thereafter, the lights up there were turned off and the music was turned up … very loud.

      From the DJ booth, a freight elevator went to all parts of the ship, including areas below decks where passengers don’t go.

      It’s known beyond dispute that cruise ships are often used to move drugs from one place to another. The belief is that Amy was drugged, perhaps bound and gagged, and put in some kind of box or other parcel that had to be moved ashore.

      When cruise ships make port, all sorts of stuff is offloaded and brought on. Trash has to be disposed of. Supplies have to be moved, etc.

      And nobody inspects these.

      If matters were pre-arranged, she could have been offloaded and handed over to someone.

      Of course, we know that human trafficking is a myth. Even so, the photographs unveiled on the Dr. Phil show are very probably those of Amy Bradley.

      I doubt that Natalee was put ON a cruise ship … but a private airplane, if not a boat, could have taken her off Aruba with no trouble at all, no matter what Dompig said.

      BTW, in my remarks about “mercy” above … what I meant was, those who cooperate might get it. Those who don’t, won’t. The incentive is to get the first rat to squeal.

    68. Carpe Noctem on December 6th, 2007 3:01 pm

      I start the torture between their legs though and work my way up.

      Vice-Grips… does a body good.

      Nutcracka Shweet, baby. -j4n

    69. Libby on December 6th, 2007 4:00 pm

      Carpe…you read my mind…I was thinking the same thing….vice grips or a nut cracker. Too funny.

      I really hope they get what they deserve…if not within the law…outside the law. If outside the law, I hope they have 10 times the pain and suffering Natalee had. I hope Anita and maybe even Nadira have to watch as morbid as that sounds. Then, perhaps they might comprehend the pain and suffering inflicted on Natalee, her family and her friends.

      I have so much respect for Dave and Beth.

    70. Richard on December 6th, 2007 5:38 pm

      I wonder if there is any possibility of the Dutch refusing to admit Joran vd Scum back into the country if he is released? Can’t imagine it … but who knows. Let the bastard spend the rest of his days on Aruba.

    71. Dolf on December 7th, 2007 4:01 am

      @70 Richard.

      Why would we not let him in if he is not convicted?
      (IF he is convicted he will be prob. shipped back any way to do his time in a Dutch jail).

      Would the US not let back a citizen who was accused abroad but not convicted?

      @Brie…all the diseases they you named are everywhere in the world..also in the US.

    72. Dolf on December 7th, 2007 7:20 am
    73. Richard on December 7th, 2007 9:57 am

      Dolf, I agree that there would seem to be scant grounds for barring a Dutch citizen from his own country without legal grounds to do so.

      But who knows?

      Anyway, you’re welcome to Joran van der Sloot if you want him … I’m sure he’ll fit right in with Dutch culture. Maybe he’ll be your citizen of the year.

    74. Dolf on December 7th, 2007 11:08 am

      ;p nice smear attempt.

      shows how much you about foreign culture (but from US ppl we do not expect that).

      But you can have him in a US jail, we Dutch ppl think our jails are to soft on our convicts anyway (no mass rapings, murders, gangs in our jails).

      But we hope that they find Natalees body (if she is dead) so she can get a decent burial and that they throw the perps in jail. Nobody here gives a sh*t about Joran and/or Aruba

      Maybe good for the US citizen of the year.

      Natalees friends who let her get in a car (drunk or not drunk) with strangers alone and didn’t even bother to check to see if she was back.

      Every1 who travels will tell you that is never a good idea.

      Now its almost weekend and I got my wedding to arrange (on 9/11/08) and no Aruba is not on my list, not because of what happened but more because its just a big rock with nothing to do except gamble and drink.

    75. micheal on December 9th, 2007 4:42 am

      what about the 12 dutch soldiers that have died in afganistan so far?should we boycot the usa for their deaths?after all it is your dare you even mention to boycott holland when you dont even remember the sacrifices our troops are making for YOUR STUPID AND POINTLESS WAR.
      SM , of yes … that stupid a$$ pointless war where Islamofascits kill people in “Old Europe” all the time. Where you people have turned a blind eye and thought it would just all go away. Be very careful what one deemd pointless.

    76. micheal on December 9th, 2007 4:48 am

      how can you drag arubas name in the mud with lies and hate when the main suspects arent even arubian???!!!! you can drink tap water not like you can do in the states …our water is distilled from the sea safest in the worls after dubai …so please chek out your fact stop making fools of yourselves ..
      SM: Where did the crime occur? DAH! If a similar crime occured in the US and the suspects were not from the US, the same conditions would take place.

      You elect Aruban officials … this is on you.

    77. Carpe Noctem on December 9th, 2007 5:59 am

      Screw bringin’ his arse to the US. Who’d
      want to spend tax dollars on the three
      amigos, and the murder consultant, Paulus
      Van der sloot?

      Stick 3 in him, and bury him in Anita’s
      garden with a daffodil stickin’ out of his

      Read my lips, someone’s gonna SMOKE HIM.


    78. micheal on December 9th, 2007 11:24 pm

      this has nothing to do with the same conditions you people are just being racist …i share your same views on the war but you guys drag our name in the mud for 3 stupid people who for all i care should be executed for lying god i wonder how much worse you people would be smearing us if the island population was black like the rest of the caribean we woudnt hear the end of it …and carpe noctem no 1 is going to smoke them here …in the us maybe cuz of your rampant gun crime but not here doesnt happen if it did it would have happend the day she dissapeared

    79. micheal on December 9th, 2007 11:30 pm

      and i my uncle is in afganistan you know why i call it stupid and pointless war?!!cuz those islamist fight in civilian clothes if theyd be wearing uniform so our boys know who is who this war would have been over a long time ago ..of coarse they are saying that we are killing so many civilians if all the taliban wear civilian clothing..if we bombr a biulding and the next day we hear 10 villagers were killed we woudnt be able to tell the difrence now would we?i mean look how fast saddams army fell in dessert storm …if those terrorists fought like real soldiers they would have lost the war

    80. micheal on December 10th, 2007 12:24 am

      i respect all your opinions exept the ones that makes stuff up as they go along without even stepping a foot on the island…like the moderator said you may bash aruba as much as you want thats why theres this website dedicated to bashing such a small island but please do not make up lies …the reason why our local police havent figured this case yet out yet has nothing to do with a cover up ..weve never had this happen to the island before ..jossy was telling the truth about this being the first time if there was a cover up the dutch detectives invloved would have found out

    81. micheal on December 10th, 2007 12:28 am

      and lets say the dutch were involved in a cover up dont you think the fbi that was involved in this investigation would have raised a flag about that…why would the dutch cover it up and send 3 f16 s to the island with its dc10 for refueling?

    82. micheal on December 10th, 2007 12:34 am

      and for those illegals coming in to aruba you have the same problem and why do you think theyre all jumping ship from theyre country to ours?becuase we have the highest living standard in the carribean believe it or not…we have the same feelings you have over the mexicans jumping your border …so you really think we apreciate those people ?coming here and not wanting to learn a sinlge word of dutch or the local language that nearly similar to theirsdo you think its nice seeing a colombian getting a dutch passport without even knowing a word of the dutch language?

    83. micheal on December 10th, 2007 12:41 am

      now for those who critisize our laws we cant help it cuz we fall under the kingdom of the netherlands so go and spill our rage to them we obide by their laws
      …any of you ever been to singapore?ive lived in singapore for 8 years any of you know what the penalty for drug traficking is in singapore ? i wish the dutch could bring that law in effect..but they wont cuz holland itself is infested with drugs …

    84. micheal on December 10th, 2007 12:51 am

      i feel sad becuase i am joining the dutch marines next year and i want to be posted with my uncle in afganistan along with the rest of the dutch troops but after ive read on here has got me thinking…this is what the people that i call an ally think about my small island..and yet im willing to sacrifice my self so that the rest of our coalitoin troops woudnt have to die for shoudnt insult us like that without even havent talked to a local about the case…most of what ive read here is so wrong so bias and just plain racist ..

    85. micheal on December 10th, 2007 12:56 am

      joran and those kalpoe brothers arent event arubian not even local and you act as if those three idiots represent our entire island..nomater how much hate you have for aruba thats just wrong ..we hardly have an robberies and the ones that do happens are always by colombian imigrants that spread voilence like a disease like you have problems with the mexicans….i wish you people would understand our feelings towards these people before callinf us the criminals …

    86. ruud on January 27th, 2008 5:52 pm

      The a paradise everything is going right,only some little problems what’s happening every day,like killing,steeling,kidnapping and a lot of other ilegal things.I’m happy to live on Aruba.
      SM: Then live there. No one is stopping you.

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