The Insanity Continues … Deepak and Satish Kalpoe Let Out of Jail in Aruba in the Natalee Holloway Case


When will Aruba stop embarrassing themselves?

Why would any tourist island ever want to be forever known as the place where Natalee Holloway disappeared and the place where they did nothing to provide justice?


More insanity out of Aruba, two of the three suspects released from jail in the case of the disappearance of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway. Why would Aruban officials and prosecutors continue to make a mockery of this case? With the eyes of not only the United Stated but the world on Aruba, they continue to embarrass themselves in a manner that is beyond ridiculous. How could anyone be so cruel to continually do this to both Beth and Dave Holloway? What are Aruban officials thinking?

Was there new evidence or not!!! If that is considered a difficult question then we are all in trouble. How can telling the truth be this difficult? Is anyone capable?

Aruba NH Vanderbilt

The manner in how Aruba has and continues to handle this case defies all logic. Either you have the evidence or you do not. This is not a matter of legal terminology. After over 2 1/2 years and dragging the family of Natalee Holloway through this roller coaster ride, its finally time to make a decision. Either bring a case against the suspects who were last seen with Natalee Holloway like any normal country would do, or deal with the fact forever that individuals will always refer to Aruba as that place where Natalee went missing and they did nothing to provide justice.



It really is that simple. Either prosecute the case or don’t and live with the consequences. Either provide “Justice for Natalee” or deal with the fact that many who have come to Aruba will never do so again. Honestly, if this is how an investigation and prosecution is handled in a place where people spend 1000’s of dollars to vacation, why would anyone go there? Heaven forbid that it happen to you?


ORANJESTAD, Aruba  —  One of two brothers charged in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway was seen leaving the prison Saturday afternoon after a judge ruled the evidence wasn’t strong enough to keep holding them.

Sateesh Kalpoe walked out and was accompanied by his attorney and an unidentified woman, according to an Associated Press photographer who observed them leave.

His brother, Deepak Kalpoe, was expected to be released shortly, his attorney, Hose Figaroa, said. Both have denied having any role in Holloway’s disappearance. (FOX News)

UPDATE I: Brothers in Holloway case walk away from jails — again

Hans Mos, Aruba’s chief public prosecutor, has three days to appeal and will decide Monday whether or not to do so.

Meanwhile, Holloway’s parents met with Mos for about an hour Saturday, and with interrogators for three hours. Neither spoke to reporters afterward.

The brothers’ release was “a bit of a setback,” Mos said Friday. But it does not change his plan to decide by the end of the year whether to prosecute anyone in Holloway’s disappearance.


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  • Comments

    104 Responses to “The Insanity Continues … Deepak and Satish Kalpoe Let Out of Jail in Aruba in the Natalee Holloway Case”

    1. Maggie on December 1st, 2007 7:32 pm

      I can hear his comments now. There goes another year in 12th grade..

    2. anne on December 1st, 2007 7:47 pm

      As a mom, I want to let Natalee’s parents know that she is not forgotten … I have been following this story from day one and hoping for justice for Natalee and her family. I hope this is just another twist in a strange and unjust story of many twists and turns. This cannot be over yet.

    3. buster on December 1st, 2007 7:51 pm

      aruba blows

    4. martini on December 1st, 2007 8:32 pm

      A badly informed lawyer

      By: Jossy M. Mansur

      Once again this man, who thinks himself a star lawyer, has given various televised interviews in which he unfortunately proves that he has no control over his emotions, and uttered one nonsense after the other in angry tone he could not camouflage! What is he looking for really? Popularity? This certainly is not the way to achieve his goal!

      I have an immense regard for Greta, but I can’t understand why she gives this man the last word and doesn’t let us confront him. Neither does she with the facts of the case, which Greta is fully aware of, I’m sure. Maybe in the US, there might be some people that are afraid of his tongue and temper, but with me, he is climbing the wrong tree!

      How does a lawyer who pretends to have any class, say that what I’ve quoted from Joran’s deposition isn’t true? I again publish this document in the original Dutch, with a translation in English. This should put duct tape on Tacopina’s mouth.

      In the referred document, Joran said to four Aruban police officers that he thinks he might know where Natalee’s body is buried, and that he thinks that Deepak went back to the beach where the girl was lying on the sand, raped and killed Natalee, and afterward buried her close to the first fishermen’s hut! And he also wants to ignore a taped conversation in a police car, where the three suspects (Joran, Deepak and Satish were sitting in the back seat), trying to make his client, Joran, come out “innocent” in his confrontation with Deepak. Does this lawyer know how to read? Or is he simply dumb? Deepak said directly to Joran (and the police have this tape!): “if they find the girl, you are looking at 15 years in prison! What did he mean by that? That Joran is “innocent” or “guilty” of something that will send him behind bars for so many years? Can this big-mouthed lawyer understand this? Or does he only want to impose his street style here too? Attacking my evidence based on real facts won’t help his client, and if he doesn’t stop painting Joran like an angel, I’ll find myself forced to publish everything we have found out about him since he was 8 years old! He is certainly no “angel”, believe me!

      Let Tacopina understand once and for all that I have 33 years of journalism in Aruba behind me, and that if the American media ask for my comments, it is because they are aware that I know more than Tacopina thinks! Could he possibly be trying to break my credibility with the American People, by his clownish acts on TV? I’ve always spoken the truth to them! I have nothing to hide from anyone. My relationship with David Kock and Ronny Wix, the defense lawyers for the Kalpoe brothers is excellent! They have the professional ethics that Tacopina lacks and a good sense in the practice of law, of that I’m sure!

      In my opinion, Paulus committed a critical error when he hired Tacopina to defend Joran, because he doesn’t know our environment, he is not up-to-date directly on what happened to Natalee, and all his “knowledge” seems to come from what he has read about the case. I’m sure he doesn’t have half of the documents that DIARIO has. Furthermore, we have additional documents that no other media can even dream of having, and that’s because we are serious journalists that respect authorities and cooperate with them when asked to do so.

      I’ve said on Greta’s show that the three suspects know very well what happened to Natalee, because they were the last ones that were with her on the night of her disappearance. Forget about the tales that from Carlos and Charlies they left her at the Holiday Inn or at the beach close to the Marriott! The story about going behind the Lighthouse to see sharks also leaves lots of doubts. There are contradicting testimonies from Joran, Deepak and Satish! Joran said that they went to his apartment from Carlos and Charlies; the Kalpoe brothers have completely denied that statement. They have declared to the police that they didn’t go to that apartment! Which party is telling the truth? And Joran declared that Deepak picked him up at the beach, but Deepak denied that allegation. And then Joran said it was Satish that picked him up! But Satish also denied that he picked him up! The big question Tacopina has to answer is: How did Joran get back home that night? Did he walk? Did Paulus pick him up? Or was there someone else?

      And can Tacopina explain to us how his client did the miracle of letting his shoes grow from size 11 to size 14 in one night?

      These are some of the discrepancies that authorities have been investigating again, because they don’t make any sense! For instance, what was the real relationship between Joran and Koen? Why did he leave the island one or two days after Natalee disappeared? Why, when Art Wood and Dave, Natalee’s father, asked authorities to interrogate him, it wasn’t done? Why hasn’t he been interrogated so far? My reliable sources tell me that Koen knows exactly what happened that night!

      If Tacopina thinks that we’re not aware of ALL the details of this case, he is badly mistaken! The truth is that we honor our word and will not reveal what we know from our police and judicial sources when asked not to do so! What is said to us in trust will never be betrayed, because then we would be betraying our principles!

      I hope this case goes to Court as soon as possible, and if Joran, Deepak and Satish are innocent, they will be cleared by the judge. And if one or more are guilty, this also will be determined by the evidence presented to the presiding Judge. My advice to Tacopina? Stay in the US! Your presence in Aruba will only cause more harm to Joran! Believe me!

    5. martini on December 1st, 2007 8:40 pm

      How did Joran get back home that night? Did he walk? Did Paulus pick him up? Or was there someone else?

      And can Tacopina explain to us how his client did the miracle of letting his shoes grow from size 11 to size 14 in one night?

      These are some of the discrepancies that authorities have been investigating again, because they don’t make any sense! For instance, what was the real relationship between Joran and Koen? Why did he leave the island one or two days after Natalee disappeared?

      Help me out here…Who is Koen?
      SM: Koen Gottenbos, one of Joran’s friends along with Koen’s brother Sander. Koen’s family owned a boat. There is some speculation that the Gottenbos boat could have been used to take Natalee out to sea. (klaasend)

    6. martini on December 1st, 2007 8:42 pm


    7. Richard on December 1st, 2007 8:46 pm

      And don’t forget … when Beth and Dave hired TJ Ward, a private investigator, the Arubans decided that he had no license to “practice his craft” on Aruba.

      I guess the laws are different if your client is an Aruban. They’ll probably send Julia Renfro or some other whore out to interview Tacopino.

      Any word on how the meeting of Beth and Dave with the prosecutor went … or did he suddenly find that he was too busy to meet with them?

      Boycott Aruba. It’s only common sense.
      SM: You are correct Richard.

      Some how for TJ Ward it was a different set of circumstances than for Joey T. If Tacopina is getting any $’s including having flight and expenses paid for that constitutes payment. Does Joey T have a license to practice business in Aruba? He is far from doing anything for pro bono.

    8. Kat_Gram on December 1st, 2007 8:58 pm

      I did listen to Dana’s show last night.
      The way this case has been handled baffles me.
      Why doesn’t Greta act like the lawyer she is ?
      Why does Joe always get the last word ?
      .. I hope that Beth had a good meeting with Mr. Mos, but somehow I doubt it.It’s seems to be some sort of insane justice system down there. Perhaps one of the suspects will sicken of living like this too and just come clean and damn the consequences. They are in limbo and will always be the ” Suspects ” until they do.
      Just spill your guts and let this be over and for the sake of God or whatever you want to call our maker, let this be over for everyone. It might feel good to be considered a ” man ” instead of cowardly frightened boys. The Kalpoe family should just make a decision together to come clean and get ‘er over and done with. Might be time served, might be a really short sentence for them instead of the lifelong sentence they are serving. How can either one of them even function ? How can they even have futures? How can they even go out in public without feeling awful ? Dates ? Forget it, no one will let their daughers date either one of these two.

    9. Carpe Noctem on December 1st, 2007 9:01 pm

      ROFL Maggie – Re: Satish. Deepak is starting to look like some demented 70′s porn producer!

      Yo Dirt-pock-us… a few more pizzas,
      bro bro!!!

      My prayers go out to Nat’s mom and dad. They always take it in stride, and just keep on

      However, just on human level…

      I know I would be coming



      It has to hit them hard each time these
      ARUBAN L-O-S-E-R-S do something like this.
      They have been through so much. -j4n

    10. LilPuma on December 1st, 2007 9:37 pm

      If Joe Tacopina continues to throw out blatant lies and insult Jossy Mansur because he wants the truth about Joran van der Sloot and Natalee’s disappearance told, we need to let Fox News, CNN and Court TV know how we feel about this unethical man who uses veiled threats to intimidate those who oppose him or his clients.

    11. martini on December 1st, 2007 9:48 pm

      The Dutch are very strict about the journalists in the Netherlands Antilles.

      I want to Thank Amigoe and Jossy for having the guts to speak out. Freedom of the press is something that is so important to the people of the NA and Holland.

      I am a fan of Jossy and know how hard it was for him to speak out.

      News about the media, free speech, journalists and anything related to Local and international media. Newspapers, Radio and Internet.

    12. Tazman on December 1st, 2007 10:04 pm

      Let’s hope the 2 brothers finally told the truth which would have been verified by whatever “new” evidence the prosecutor has. The total callousness of Joe Taco leaves a sour taste in my mouth. He and Joran sound like a real pair!!

    13. SL-Gloria on December 1st, 2007 10:04 pm

      Free airtime is conditio sine qua non for Joe Tacopina representing Joran. So in the strict sense of the word, his work is not pro bono publico.

    14. Tazman on December 1st, 2007 10:05 pm

      Are there any updates on the ocean search?

    15. SL-Gloria on December 1st, 2007 10:53 pm


      Do you know if the Aruban Prosecutor can continue interrogating the Kalpoes, even if the judge didn’t prolong their detention?


      SM: I don’t think they can interrogate them unless they are detained unless they do so voluntary. Even if detained, they can choose not to talk. I have heard that the prosecutor is appealing their release. (klaasend)

    16. columbo on December 1st, 2007 10:54 pm

      maybe it is the judges who are being investigated

    17. MF on December 1st, 2007 11:08 pm

      I too have followed this case from day one, as I have children. I find it apalling that this “little island paradise” can continue to cover up what happened to Natalee. I will NEVER set foot on this island, and our family and friends take annual trips to warm destinations each spring. My husband knows better than to ever suggest Aruba as a vacation spot. I hope someone can crack this case so this family can bring home their daughter. I know I will continue to pray for resolution and justice for this beautiful girl.

    18. TJ on December 1st, 2007 11:22 pm

      We all need to pray each day that Justice will be served soon. I hope that they will not release Joran next week. We all know how we are feeling with each arrest and release, imagine how Beth and Dave must feel. It’s torture.
      If they do not prosecute these murders soon we need to step up the Boycott Aruba campaign to the max.

    19. Guest on December 1st, 2007 11:51 pm

      “…a bit of a setback?” Geesh, this entire case has been nothing but a giant setback to the family!

      I only hope that the rumors of this stolen crab/lobster trap is not skewing folks to only search in the ocean. I think they need to also search on land – find the ‘hole’ that others are perhaps burried in – cuz as per Joran to Deepak and Satish in the back of the paddywagon “…if they find the girl, they will see the sh*t’!!!” What sh*t is that Joran, the sneakers? Sander’s lost cell phone? Freddy’s film?

    20. kitty on December 2nd, 2007 12:21 am

      Okay, why can’t a Judge from the Netherlands, be brought in on this particular case?

      HOw could any Judge on Aruban soil that is associated by their proffessional relationship with PVDS remain impartial? One would think they would all automaticaly be dismissed from this case ~ due to their relationship with PVDS….

      Bring in someone from The Hague, with no connection, no ties to PVDS, Joran, or the Kapole’s and have some justice for once! ~ come on, Netherlands???

      Can this be done??? Anyone explain this please?

    21. Sahara on December 2nd, 2007 12:54 am

      What is the judges name?

    22. Patti on December 2nd, 2007 1:10 am

      What a wonderful editorial written by Jossy!

      My thoughts and prayers are with him. But, I must say, I sure wish he’d share some of those stories about Joran and the trouble he’s been in since he was 8 years old.

      We’re behind you, Jossy… and don’t forget that American T.V., in some cases, is no more than a pool of misinformation… especially the news shows that interview guests, it’s all for sensationalism… playing to an audience. You have more class in your little finger than Taco has in his whole body and it comes through loud and clear on the tube… Keep the faith.

      Do you know of any way to either have the trial moved to an independent country or have the Aruban judges replaced by those from other countries? I’d suggest the Netherlands, but am a little gun shy of the Dutch, especially, after this latest fiasco.

      I know that you read here all the time. Can you please address my questions as I think Kitty has a good point and most of us don’t think that there will ever be justice in Aruba. Everybody knows everybody, Paulus has too many friends who dress in black robes and there has been too much publicity about the case.



    23. Rammstein on December 2nd, 2007 1:25 am

      Since Natalee has gone missing more than 20 new Dutch judges have been added to the Court of the Dutch Antilles and Aruba.

    24. Patti on December 2nd, 2007 1:27 am


      They need to be…

    25. Patti on December 2nd, 2007 1:37 am


      Are you saying that we are to trust the Dutch?!?!

      I fell for that one already, once. Others, more

      than that. I think we need someone independent

      who doesn’t care about the reputation of 97,000

      people or the tourism that they are dependent

      upon. Aruba’s financial dependence on the Dutch,

      would rule them out.




      P.S. Good to see ya around…

    26. Miss-Underestimated on December 2nd, 2007 2:19 am

      Does Aruba have street sweepers? They got more trash on the streets today.

      Deepak better watch Joran is gonna turn on you.

    27. Jon on December 2nd, 2007 2:37 am

      #4 I concur but would like to add ‘keep Greta OUT of Aruba…..that’s as bad as sending Gloria Alread to Los Angeles! Enough.

    28. Jon on December 2nd, 2007 2:39 am

      #4 I concur but would like to add “keep Greta OUT of Aruba….that’s as bad as sending Gloria Alread TO Aruba. Enough

    29. Mike on December 2nd, 2007 2:58 am

      What about detaining them for kidnapping. It WAS their car and she did not return to the hotel as she told her friends. How about littering? They are such big pieces of trash it should as least be littering for them to be walking the streets. I also hope they are not allowed to leave the island.

    30. LilPuma on December 2nd, 2007 6:53 am

      23. Rammstein: Is it true that the Judge who released the Kalpoes is the same Judge who released Joran in 2005? Is he a friend of the Van der Sloots as many have said?

    31. Michael on December 2nd, 2007 7:46 am

      In the media in The Netherlands it was clear when Joran was rearrested that there is no new (technical)evidence. They only wanted to confront the suspects again because after December 31 of this year they can’t be brought to court anymore because of Aruban law.

      So in case of no new evidence and the suspects keep quit they probably walk. The investigation was messed up 2 1/2 years ago when they didn’t collect the evidence. That first investigation team is to blame.

      I don’t no how it is in the US but in Aruba and the rest of the World you can’t keep someone in jail just because of suspicions without evidence even if you are sure he did it. Clearly there is not enough evidence and you can’t blame the judge for that.

      The Netherlands have nothing to with it and can’t do nothing about it. The Netherlands can only interfere when Aruba asks for it. Like they did with the investigation team.

    32. Blakerin on December 2nd, 2007 9:06 am

      My heart breaks for Beth and Dave! Joe T has no soul he belongs in the gutter with the 3 amigos, Paulus and Aruba! I think he SHOULD go to Aruba and NEVER leave!

    33. Vicki on December 2nd, 2007 9:39 am

      Maybe as others have said the 2k told what happened and thats why they were let out..they are just keeping it quiet..I doubt it though…

    34. Richard on December 2nd, 2007 10:16 am

      If the Dutch have added more than 20 new judges to the Netherlands Antilles in the last few years, as Mr. Rammstein indicates … why is it that THE SAME JUDGE WITH PERSONAL TIES TO PAULUS VAN DER SCUM is STILL the one who is making decisions in this case?

      This travesty would not be allowed in the U.S.
      Pure and simple.

      And he is based in Curacao? That’s where Amy Bradley vanished from the cruise ship in 1998, after crew members wanted to take her to … you guessed it … Carlos ‘n’ Charlies in Aruba. She wanted nothing to do with them.

      She vanished the very next day, in the early morning when the ship had just docked in Curacao.

      There must be some honest judges in the Netherlands. Get one of them to rule.

      MF (#17) … you’re entirely right, don’t go there. But don’t leave it at that: let the Arubans know why, and spread the word to everyone that you can. That’s how we can best serve the cause of justice.

    35. buster on December 2nd, 2007 10:38 am

      If aruba was a garbage dump and I found out my trash was being taken there I would boycott the trash service

    36. brie on December 2nd, 2007 10:50 am

      Article in Katablog:

      Ah! Learning who the judge was who ruled the Kalpoes brothers are once again free and that the prosecution doesn’t have enough evidence to hold them. The same judge that released the three thugs in August 2005 and is rumored to have worked with Paulus in the Dutch judiciary.(anyone smell conflict of interest?)Rick stayed at the home of Paulus. He ruled that the three thugs could continue to be held. Then faxed a reversal of that decision when he returned to Curacao. Speculation was this after he received a bank transfer from Paulus?

    37. benh on December 2nd, 2007 10:51 am

      Aruba stuck on STUPID.After this fiasco there should be no doubt that a cover up took place and continues to this day.Its the we tried our best but did not have enough evidence routine,BOYCOTT ARUBA.

    38. resolution on December 2nd, 2007 10:56 am

      I don’t suppose anyone knows how the meeting went yesterday..?

      I am going out on a limb here, but I had a thought that the bros were released, at least for now, after agreeing to testify against Joran & daddy. I know far fetched, and they are CERTAINLY GUILTY of heinous crimes, but I think Joran actually committed the murder. And I still say pvds was the “spotter” at the casino.

    39. A New Girl on December 2nd, 2007 11:03 am

      Kalpoes RE-RELEASED ??? If Joran gets bounced again, I don’t ever see this case coming to a close through the legal system in Aruba. While I give Mos credit for trying to bring closure to a badly messed up investigation from the beginning- now it is just too little too late.

      In a sad way, I also do hope the new search provides a body or some DNA evidence—but then what—all 3 of these suspects will still continue to deny what they did to contribute to Natalee’s Death and it does not appear as if the Aruban prosecutors will ever be successful at proving anything other than their entire legal system needs a complete overhaul.

      Very sad for the Holloway family, very disturbing and aggravating for the American public.

      Thank you SM and Jossy Mansur of Dario for always reporting the facts on this tragedy.

    40. EURobert on December 2nd, 2007 11:09 am

      I still don’t know exactly what the supposed relationship between this judge and PvdS or this case is. But if there is an obscure relationship Mos should file a complaint at the head of the Antillian Justice-system.
      Does Mos know about this supposed relationship?

    41. brie on December 2nd, 2007 11:09 am

      ..continuation of #36:

      Just goes to show that even if there is a clean prosecutor and head of the investigation, there are still many dirty politicians with direct ties to the suspects that are most interested in seeing them walk.

      End of article.

      I think the prosecutor has every right to call this a conflict of interest. Throw out the judges decision. He turned around and did a complete reversal again. That stinks!!! He in no way should be affiliated with the case.

    42. Allan K on December 2nd, 2007 11:17 am

      Do the kids in Georgia know they are going to school with an accomplish to murderer. Do the other kids parents know that Koen trash is going to school with them.

    43. brie on December 2nd, 2007 11:26 am

      Joran complaining about jail conditions, hmmmm, then take him out to the back 40, tie him to a tree and he can lay there and look at the stars. Just like he said Natalee wanted to do. Liar, liar, liar!!!!

    44. Lala'sMom on December 2nd, 2007 11:45 am

      Hey Simian! Who is the 5th suspect? I am giving you an opportunity to tell us. Time for games is over! Is it Paulus? Lorenzo? Freddy? Steve? You can do this…tell us.

      Attention Shango! Who is the real Dirty Hand? Time to ‘fess up now…let’s stop the riddling and have the guts to tell us what is the truth. I am waiting.

    45. mommytraveler on December 2nd, 2007 12:06 pm

      It’s time to investigate all the Judges who have made rulings in this case. I suspect that the same Judge or the same group have made all the rulings and all know Paulus personally. Paulus is connected to this “good ole boy” network – much like may be happening in Illnois and the “dirty cops” there. Our FBI is now stepping in. Time for the Aruban Prosecutor to do something, too. It’s time to FOLLOW THE MONEY trail.

      Jossy – How about an article on the the Judges?

    46. Susan on December 2nd, 2007 12:11 pm

      The judge is probably another friend of Paulass van der Slut, just like the first judge or is one in the same :-(

      Damn the Aruban/Dutch judicial system and those appointed to carry out their BS laws to hell and back!! They have no intentions of seeing that justice for Natalee is finally served and bringing closure to her family :-(

      Pee-pee boy Urine (Joran) will be the next to be released and there’s not a thing anyone can do stop it :-(



    47. brie on December 2nd, 2007 12:13 pm

      Also, remember Ben King and judge Bob Witt, prevented the search of the Sloot’s home. Even though the prosecution wanted this done.

      So what is the prosecution allowed to do. All the road blocks are because of the judges.

    48. brie on December 2nd, 2007 12:30 pm

      Why did Ben Vocking change his name to Ben King? Came acrossed an article in JUl 1 2005, interesting. It talks about Rudy Croes, Paulus, Ben King and gov’t officials tampering with evidence. Alexander Matthew has somethings to say. The article is titled Is Aruba’s government covering up again?

    49. Pearl on December 2nd, 2007 12:38 pm

      Let’s be honest.

      Natalee was never “missing”.

      Natalee was kidnapped.
      Natalee was drugged.
      Natalee was gang raped by Joran Van der Sloot and his thug friends, and Joran admitted to sexually assaulting Natalee while she was drifting in and out of consciousness. THAT CONSTITUTES RAPE.

      They decided with intent that they couldn’t allow Natalee’s drugged, battered body to speak about the horrific suffering they ganged up together to inflict on her.

      SO they murdered her, and hid her tortured body from her loving beautiful family, so that the DNA and drugs inflicted on Natalee by the murderers would not be discovered.

      Tell us, Mr. Mos, how you can with any sense of ethics claim that USING THE STATEMENTS OF LIARS, you are now going to claim that Natalee Holloway was “accidentally” killed.
      What kind of a man can make such an outrageous claim after the egregious criminal acts these monsters inflicted upon Natalee and her family?

      As Paulus says: “No corpse, no case.”

      They had a police chief and a prosecutor aide them in destroying evidence by allowing innocent black men to be arrested based on the lies they knew Joran, Deepak and Satish were delivering in their “statements”, after the “editor” of the statements finished removing all the self-incriminating things being said, and left the outrageous language that was used to then frame Mickey John and Abraham Jones.

      Tell us, Mr. Mos: will PAULUS, JORAN, DEEPAK and SATISH be tried for their obstructions of justice and framing two innocent black men?

      Then, after the lie statements were carefully edited, they took these statements which were shifted from Dutch – to Papimiento, to God only knows how many other languages…just so they could then claim “Translation errors and misunderstandings”, kind of like how they had a committee formed by June 2, to address “the damaging affects” of Natalee Holloway being “missing” – while police were claiming that she was “partying it up”.

      The multi-languaged statements then became part of the “interpretation issues” angle, built into the cover-up, along with the other disgraceful conduct displayed, that is so blatantly corrupt and dishonest, it casts a shroud of evil and darkness over Aruba for the depths of depravity they have allowed themselves to sink to through this depraved conduct being displayed.

      They allowed these murderers to eliminate a human being, a sacred human life, a child’s life – in order to protect themselves from being exposed to the world for the bunch of criminal savages they are.

      And those entrusted with enforcing the law allowed this travesty to continue, because some got paid off for selling their conscience to the devil, while others trampled on Natalee’s human rights, in order to exculpate murderers in their depraved concerns with protecting their tourism industry to the island. Others with very long arms, and very extensive connections got a free ride while Beth, Dave and their family were placed on the merry go round ride from hell, over and over again. And still it continues.
      They apparently have not quite tormented and tortured them enough.

      This child’s story is not going to go away.
      Her voice cannot be silenced.
      Her cries cannot be drowned out by their perverted conduct.

      How did prosecutor Mos end up with an “accident” that began as a “Murder”?

      How did prosecutor Mos end up with an “accident” that began with drugging and kidnapping an innocent and targeted child?

      Better yet: How does Mr. Mos explain Deepak’s “backyard” issues at his home, and Joran’s having sat at the black jack table playing “ALONE”?

      Gosh! Who was that balding man that sat right there across from Joran, whose face by the way – IS HIS FATHER,PAULUS, because it was as clear as ALL OF NATALEE’S TRUTH, that Paulus Van der Sloot sat right next to Natalee Holloway at the casino black jack table that Joran sat “ALONE” at on May 29, 2005.

      This begs the question:





      Better yet, Mr. Mos, perhaps you can explain what your lying suspects meant by all of this as well as the innocent black man they framed, Mickey John:

      – the references to the gun

      – “what would police say if they know you hit A GIRL or THE GIRL with your car?”


      – You’ll get 15 years



      – Joran: “I was at the black jack table ALONE”.


      Maybe you can explain, Mr. Mos how Paulus managed to hold a HOLIDAY INN LIE CORRUPTION MEETING that took place BEFORE 3 AM on May 31, 2005 – when, according to Paulus, he only just learned of Natalee being “missing” from BETH, when she arrived at his home at 3 AM in the morning?


      It’s corrupt enough to base police and prosecutorial actions on lies that are known by police and the prosecutor as being lies – which then get used to arrest innocent black men.

      But to now suggest that Natalee became the victim of “AN ACCIDENT” is a sham, and a disgrace!



      WHO NEEDS FOR NATALEE’S SUFFERING TO BECOME AN ACCIDENT? Is it the same people who also needed for her to be “WILD”, along with all the other shameful, disgraceful slanderous things that Aruba allowed her to be called while her murderers walked away free from the savagery they inflicted on her?

      Find a conscience, Mr. Mos!
      Find a sense of integrity that is sorely lacking in this disgraceful display of human indifference to the brutality inflicted upon a defenseless child.




      Set this child free, Aruba.
      Contain your murderers; not the victim.

      Natalee needs to come home to her family.

      Honor Natalee, and all that she and her family have suffered, Mr. Mos by claiming her RIGHT to have her voice heard, her truth told, her right to justice served!




    50. Susan on December 2nd, 2007 12:38 pm

      Why doesn’t the judge, if he/she is a friend of Paulass van der Slut, remove themselves from the case? That is what should happen due to a conflict of interest and the fact it would be unethical. The Aruban/Dutch judicial/law enforcement officials have not displayed the first ounce of “ethics” period!



    51. 10061906 on December 2nd, 2007 1:35 pm

      Class the title of my essay for today is
      “WHY BOTHER”.
      What I can’t understand is why pay for a judicial system on Aruba? Why have a prison? Why have a police force? Why is the VCB Beach Security needed when they are supposed to be downtown at the stores looking for shoplifters or catching American Tourist trying to prepare fraudulent insurance claims? Why do you need Rudy Croes? Drugs run rampant so why the need for Dennis Jocaobs the “CRACK” narcotics agent? Obviously he is not doing his job or too busy trying to find someone’s debit card and eating frosted flakes while on duty. Or is that white powder on the flakes something else??
      If the Aruban judicial system is based on the Dutch judicial system it looks as if I’ll be boycotting Holland as well. I would not feel safe bringing my family there either.
      Ninety percent of the ALE are used for auto accidents caused by drivers shot up on drugs. Hey Deepak, you better stop for the next green light, someone may be running the red light and bang., no more Deepak. No one ever gets convicted of a crime. In the example of Robert Wayne Bensen blatant murders are ruled suicides. In the case of “Pitbull”; his arms and legs were cut off, he was nailed to a cross and set on fire, yet his death was attributed to a drug overdose. In the case of Father Montoya, who was gagged and had his arms tied behind his back was ruled he died in his sleep. So why is a coroner needed? You don’t need funeral homes, because the person handling the cremations was murdered. Just dump the bodies down the gold mine air shafts. Once they fill up, dig more shafts or feed the bodies to the sharks at the north east end of the island and hope body parts don’t wash up on the north west side beaches. But there will be no tourist there to find these body parts.
      And last but not least; why is a govenor appointed by the queen necessary?
      It is nothing but a six year all expenses paid vacation. Notice he doesn’t bring his family.
      In conclusion about any trip to Aruba or the Netherlands; “Why Bother”?

    52. Rombo on December 2nd, 2007 2:42 pm

      Amazing, that’s what it all is, amazing. No reapect for US at that island!
      SM: Has nothing to do with respecting the US. (klaasend)

    53. kayjay on December 2nd, 2007 2:50 pm

      I totally agree that the judge should recuse himself, but probably with Aruba’s “screw the victim” legal system they probably don’t know what recusal means. Well judge it means —- off back Curacao because your rulings aren’t worth the paper they are written on (probably on the back of a thank you card to PVDS for his kind consideration of services rendered).

    54. Carpe Noctem on December 2nd, 2007 2:54 pm

      Well… yeah, but 1006…

      He OD’d on coke, right? I hear that
      stuff can make one very hyper!

      He perhaps removed his limbs, & nailed himself to a
      cross with the final remaining moments?
      I’m still workin’ on the “on fire” bit,
      but it’ll come to me, give me some time.

      Some people may think 1006 is joking,

      …while he is about a few things…
      He is very correct about the way
      “Pitbull” was murdered.

      “Pitbull” Djoegan’s death
      was ruled a cocaine overdose!

      HEY, VIVA
      UP ON SOME
      OF THIS?

      -Justice for Natalee

    55. Carpe Noctem on December 2nd, 2007 3:02 pm

      LIAR, LIAR,

      ARE ON FIRE!


    56. Sharon Chicago on December 2nd, 2007 3:34 pm

      Both attorneys for the Kalpoe brothers stated that neither one of them had anything to do with Natalee’s dissappearance…. I wonder if they ever asked them if they are responsible for raping and murdering Natalee…. Gee I bet they forgot to ask them that and I bet the procecutor and all of the ALE forgot too.

      Could Hans be part of that dirty island conspiracy?????? …. maybe this farce was payback to Beth because she is choking thier tourist industry and drying up their resources?

    57. Sharon Chicago on December 2nd, 2007 3:43 pm

      Notice that Deepak is sporting a mustache now to hide behind…I guess he could not bleach his hair blonde and pretend to be a surf boy on the island. You can hide beind a mustache but everyone sees the deception lieing in your heart.

      You can’t hide from God…He sees you and knows you for what you are

    58. Sharon Chicago on December 2nd, 2007 3:52 pm

      Gee all these inconsistancies, in statements and followup…there is no followup to any of the circumstantial evidence…

      Why can’t Kelly scream for justice… why are the guilty ones never challenged on all the lies they keep telling….Why are they not called on it???

      The only decent one I can find their is Jossy … I am grateful he speaks the truth.

    59. Sharon Chicago on December 2nd, 2007 4:36 pm

      Greta has shown the “Joran” interview yesterday, SAT and today, SUN. Two days in a row.

      This is the March 2006 interview…Joran had ten months to write his dialog again on what transpired. He’s so polished, knows exactly what to say …Mr. Nice guy no condom no sex….

      Left shoes on the beach so he would not get sand in them…he laughs and says same type shoes I am wearing now…

      He is such a liar… it will catch up with him…God will not let him get away with this.

      I think that Natalee died at Jorans apt. and then they loaded her in Deepaks car and buried her in the sand until they could arrange for a boat to use to transport her out five miles or further in the ocean.

    60. Maggie on December 2nd, 2007 4:46 pm

      They have all claimed they don’t know anything more and have told the truth.. They want us to believe, they went to the lighthouse, they didn’t, they went to JVDS house, they didn’t, Satish drove to CnC, Deepak did, Deepak who goes to Carlos n Charlies every week wants us to believe he got lost in Carlos n Charlies that night and went out to his car, I say it was to get the car and pull up to get away faster, Natalee was drunk, she wasn’t, noone got out of the car when they picked Joran up, yet we got in the car and took off, Deepak picked him up, no Satish since Deepak had a record of being on the net under his name, no he walked without no shoes a half hour home, he left his shoes by the hotel beach yet he didn’t want to go down by Natalee at the fisherman’s huts to get them, we let her out at the Holiday Inn she hit her head and shoved Joran. He went to the beach for sex and said let’s walk up where all those people are, no condom when he’s been planning this since 6:30, he had tests the next day and had to go home, he didn’t have tests, he went to school, he didn’t. He played tennis, he didn’t. He asked to go to the Wyndham, he wasn’t at the Wyndham according to guards. Kalpoes cleaned their car for ants, no it was sand from Joran’s shorts after they said he had on pants, in the middle of the night. Deepak is chatting Sun to Mon, so cops and investigators can see he was on the Internet, the same night Natalee went missing. How did he know Natalee was missing Sun. night when it wasn’t known until Monday night? and would know he would need chat traffic to prove he was home? If you read their statements, they are blaming each other for crimes, not saying there wasn’t one. Paulus is meeting with them, they’ve admitted, conveniently Deepak can’t remember what Paulus said. He can remember the no body, no case comment. Paulus saying he can’t recall over and over and contradicting his own statements. Who is that in the casino by Natalee? They have all trashed Natalee repeatedly. Tried to make her out to be crazy, with nothing to back it up but their hollow lies.

      Interviewer: The only thing you three really agree on 100% is that you were the last person to be with Natalee.

      Joran van der Sloot: Yes.

      Interviewer: Doesn’t put you in a good position.

      Joran van der Sloot: No, it doesn’t.

      When Joran heard a girl was missing on the beach, how did he know it was Natalee right away?
      Interviewer: When you heard that a girl had gone missing on the beach, what did you think?

      Joran van der Sloot: Well, the first thing that popped into my head was (censored). What if something happened to her? What if she went swimming? I was thinking after everything she told me, she probably might have gone back to her hotel, hooked up with – gone to someone else, hooked up with someone else, and wanted to stay another day on the island.

      As for Rudy Croes,, who cares what he thinks, he was the one who didn’t rule out shutting Beth up. Money, Money, it’s all about money. I wasn’t for the boycott at first, but I am now. Who would want to send a loved one there and see them and their family go through this joke. It wasn’t an inept investigation, it has went as planned. When you dont search and collect in the first few days and you let friends investigate their friends, it’s not inept, it’s corruption.

    61. Richard on December 2nd, 2007 4:57 pm

      I’m posting this here in hopes that Red or Klaasen might see fit to re-post it closer to the relevant date. Meanwhile, all Monkeys who are concerned with Natalee’s case might want to read:

      In a newspaper column this morning, the director of a group called The Compassionate Friends solicited attention for her Web site, which I believe can be found by doing a search under that name.

      At 7 pm local time every second Sunday in December (on Dec. 9 this year), a Worldwide Candle Lighting is held, “creating a 24-hour wave of light in rememberance of all children who have died, no matter their age or the cause of death. Also available that day at The Compassionate Friends website will be a remembrance book….”

      The persons to whom this e-mail is sent either have experienced a tragedy in their own family or are united in seeking justice for other families. I do not know about this group, but wish to bring to your attention the fact that this group exists and that it offers this service.

      Will lighting such candles bring justice for Natalee, or other missing persons? Nope; but I think it’s worthwhile for us to show in every possible way that we are not forgetting her case, and never will forget, and never will stop demanding that Aruba provide justice.

      Naturally, we would not want to “desecrate” this forum or in any way show disrespect for any other missing persons. Grief knows no boundaries.

      But we can light candles for one and all….

    62. Kat_Gram on December 2nd, 2007 5:05 pm

      The KLPD did an investigation and there must have been a report made to the Ministry in Aruba. That is what Mos has to take his cues from. How much woud we all pay to see that, as if we could, eh ? That is where our answers are. Can we all guess what was in there ? I think we have already. There was no will to solve the case, there was interference by high ranking justice officials, Ben Vocking for one and how can a case be solved when the cover up / destruction came from that high up ?

    63. nurturer on December 2nd, 2007 5:17 pm

      I just finished Andrew Hodges book, Into the Deep and as we can imagine, it ain’t pretty. Actually, it’s more brutal than has been theorized.

      Most of what Hodges says that Deepak “confesses” to, has already been theorized. It explains how Deepak and Satish stayed in the background at Carlos n’ Charlie’s, so as not to be identified by their next ‘target’ as anything other than taxi drivers.

      Ecstacy was placed into Natalee’s drink at Joran’s request, to lower Natalee’s inhibitions. Thereby, allowing Natalee to take risks she normally would not.

      She was escorted by Joran to a ‘taxi’, that being Deepak’s car, with Deepak driving and Satish in the passenger side.

      Deepak takes a detour to an islolated dirt road, whereupon, they stop the car to Natalee’s surprise and Joran orders Natalee to get out and strip. Deepak covers the backseat with a blanket. Natalee is startled and realizes that she has been set up.

      With Natalee resisting, they forcefully remove her clothes, being careful not to tear the clothing, and force her onto the backseat.

      Natalee is resisting and fighting the entire time, contrary to the belief that she was ‘in and out of consciousness’ (remember reports of Joran with a bruise around the eye the next day?).

      Joran rapes Natalee first, then Satish and lastly Deepak. Joran controls Natalee with either his forearm or a belt (remember the picture of Joran with the belt around a kid’s neck?) as Deepak is raping her.

      As Natalee is being raped by Deepak, she is drowning in her own vomit, unbeknownst to all three, due to her inability to breathe because of Joran’s chokehold coupled with her resisting.

      They try to resusitate Natalee, (references to Natalee hitting her head) as the body hits the ground as they remove her from the car. Realizing she is dead, they place the body in the trunk. It is at this point that Hodges believes all three were spotted by the witness.

      They take Natalee’s body to the Van Der Sloot house. Paulus devises the plan for Satish to go home and logon as Deepak and to exchange emails so as to concoct an alibi. During which, Paulus makes arrangements to have Deepak and Joran place Natalee’s body in a ‘container’ or ‘cage’, to weigh it down.

      They dump Natalee’s body out to sea FROM STRAIGHT OUT FROM THE HOLIDAY INN and on the WEST SIDE of the island “pointing to the USA’. According to Hodges, there was Deepak, Joran, and a third person on board.

      In Deepak’s thoughtprints, according to Hodges, Deepak feels that the body is completely discoverable. That in his conscious L-1 mind, he is scared beyond belief that the body will be discovered. But that his L-2 mind is all for the body being discovered, so as to rest his L-2 ‘conscience’.

      With the new search underway, we can only hope.

      As the body is being dumped at sea, Paulus is acting as Joran by emailing Satish at home. The End.

      This entire scenario seems plausible to me. I have always thought that this case is not all that complicated. There was no lighthouse, no lost shoes, no sightseeing for sharks, no leaving Natalee on the beach all by her lonesome. All of which are just diversions to purposely guide us away from the simple truth.

      That these three cowardly, scumbag punks duped an innocent American tourist into riding with them so they could rape her. That’s it. Nothing more. They counted on the humiliation of being raped to keep her quiet. Instead, she died. As for this new prosecutor, he needs to toss his pride and invite the FBI in on this one, once and for all. Inviting a couple of seasoned FBI interrogator’s down for a paid vacation and getting some pointers over lunch and dinner, would go a long way for this guy to come out smelling like a hero. Instead, I’m thinking he is just one of the same.

      And perhaps I’m wrong, but I think the Aruban’s still don’t understand who they’re playing headgames with. The people that pay their way.

    64. 10061906 on December 2nd, 2007 5:46 pm

      Richard; Is this the link?

    65. brie on December 2nd, 2007 6:00 pm

      It’s about friends representing power involved in corruption during favors for each other.

      I know there is a boycott, but maybe we need a marching band, a parade of people, loud music and vocals about America dressed in our red, white and blue. Carrying our flag, and banners that said
      We Want Justice for Natalee, Aruba Shame on You and We Protest Against the Aruban Gov’t. Could it be that some decent Arubans might join us? Maybe we should have jumped aboard Schaefer’s ship. It won’t happen of course, but I can still picture it in my mind.

    66. Richard on December 2nd, 2007 6:09 pm

      10061096, that sure looks like it.

    67. Richard on December 2nd, 2007 6:15 pm

      Nurturer (#63), I’m skeptical of that writer’s ability to divine this sequence of events solely and simply from e-mail, which is my understanding of what he’s doing.

      But I have not read the book.

      The scenario itself, though, certainly doesn’t sound far-fetched.

      My question: if the case is indeed as ‘simple’ as this, how is it that after all the attention given to this case, and the devastating impact of the boycott (which even the Dutch admit has taken its toll on Aruba … see earlier threads) …

      with all of this, how is it that the cover-up can’t be broken? Merely to protect one failed wannabe judge (if he were so powerful, he would have gotten the job with no hesitation at all) and three punk kids, two of whom are foreign?

      It doesn’t make sense to me.

      Doesn’t mean that I’m right, of course, but I still think that the powers that be on Aruba think that something darker is involved, something that, if known, surely would destroy their tourist economy forever and ever, amen.

      Let’s see what happens on Tuesday with Joran.

    68. brie on December 2nd, 2007 6:27 pm

      I don’t even know if the powers to be are worried about destroying their tourist economy their worried about themselves. And probably should be! Of course, all of their jobs would be at stake, but I think their first priority is the cover-up of many deeds. That could present a jail sentence for them. Maybe for many years. So now they have all the decision makers in control.

    69. nurturer on December 2nd, 2007 6:53 pm

      I think the cover up took place in 2005. It’s now just a matter of maintaining it. Evidence lost/destroyed and the body disposed of were the priorities. Now that that has been accomplished, there only thing to do is to keep people intimidatd, such as prior victims of Joran and his pals.

      Their biggest fear right now, I would think, is this new expedition that will be arriving there. If they do find her body, and Christ I hope they do, then many things will begin to unravel. I tend to think it will be the only way they will get these three to tell the truth.

      And as for Joran, he’ll be on his way back to the Netherlands soon. And, the boycott will either resume or INTENSIFY.

    70. weasel on December 2nd, 2007 7:07 pm

      after watching the Greta interview of Joran again I am now convinced of one thing:

      Joran is lying !

      and Tacopino: there comes a time in your life
      to do the right thing. Do it.

    71. 10061906 on December 2nd, 2007 7:53 pm

      klaasend; could you supply the link to the original SM decoding of Shango’s riddles.
      Also who asked for the Clausen Investigators to go to Aruba. What has become of that link to the Lion’s Den? Whose link was it anyway?
      SM: Here is the link to the Shango/Simian thread in the forum. The first link is posts only. The second link is more of a discussion thread.

      As far as the Clausen Investigators, I really don’t know but I doubt anyone asked them to go to Aruba, I suspect they did it on their own.


    72. SL-Gloria on December 2nd, 2007 8:19 pm

      @67 Richard,

      In relation to your comment about Dutch acknowledgement of declines in Aruban tourism affluence, the Aruban Tourism Authority decided a few months back to do an Advertising Agency Review, which is indicative that they are not happy with the tangible results of the communications efforts dedicated to attract travelers to its destination. I presume they will be asking new agencies and their present ad agency Fitzgerald & Co., to pitch for the Aruban Tourism account, even if they state that this review will not affect the status of Fitzco as their record agency ( ).

      What doesn’t make sense is that Aruba holds the bull by the tail, not the horns. Aruba Tourism has a brand-advertising problem resulting from a PR nightmare. Changing ad agencies will not bring about positive changes in the “consumption” of its product.

    73. mc on December 2nd, 2007 8:38 pm

      “Liars lie to avoid what the truth will surely bring”

      When the cage is discovered,(and you know we know it will) these three will eat each other alive. This arrest was to gather the latest, “individual” statements. Then when the trial begins, the conflicting statements will start the “roll-overs”. Finally looks like there are a handful of real smart outsiders handling things. Papa better get some serious deodorant…

      see you in 10 days………….

    74. LilPuma on December 2nd, 2007 8:52 pm

      I pray that the Dutch investigation and Hans Mos’ efforts pay dividends. But the problem with Aruba boils down to this:
      1. Friend of Paulus Van der Sloot in charge of initial investigation when “mistakes were made”.
      2. Friends of Paulus Van der Sloot making judicial decisions in this case.
      3. Letting the family know long before the US media arrived that they would not get a real investigation. “Yankees, go home.”
      4. Arubans attacking the victim, as though drinking or meeting some Aruban boys means there can be no crime against a tourist.
      5. Aruba cares about their image to attract tourists, but they do not care about tourists.

      Supporters of this will tell you that Beth and Jug caused the problems, the U.S. media caused the problems, that Natalee ran away with some phantom blue-eyed boy, and anything said by the Holloway family, Jossy, Art Wood, TJ Ward or Peter de Vries is a lie.

      I think we need to write the Common Court of Justice in the Netherlands Antilles and ask why friends of Paulus van der Sloot were allowed to handle this case. This is where this case was sidelined in the inital days. This needs to be investigated and those who hindered this investigation should be removed from their positions in any area of the Dutch legal system — permanently.

    75. Pat in Alabama on December 2nd, 2007 9:09 pm

      Did the judge give any reason for his reversal, or is that just more inside information we will never know? He can’t say that Paulus made a couple of trips to the ATM in the wee hours of the morning (like May 30, 2005).

    76. Pat in Alabama on December 2nd, 2007 9:13 pm

      The island is run by drug lords and drug money.
      The few who are not on the take are under threat.

      I expect we will soon see Urine released and then the case closed (by the year’s end) for a lack of provable evidence. They are setting the stage for this now. Why else would Mr. Mos put this time contstraint on himself?

    77. kayjay on December 2nd, 2007 9:27 pm

      #73 mc You sound pretty confident..I sure hope you’re raised my spirits a bit..thanks.
      #74 LiPuma Good idea ..can you get one started? I’ll happily sign it..the conflict of interest is glaring.

      PS Does anyone know if Beth and Dave are still in

    78. on December 2nd, 2007 10:14 pm

      Just like van der Sloot’s compensation to Joe Tacopina is probably lying lessons for Joe by Joran, perhaps Aruba’s new scheme for “tourism” is to announce some major case happening every six months. This way US journalists and journalists from elsewhere fly in and fill up the hotel rooms for a few days. Perhaps those few dollars are keeping Aruban hotels afloat.

      I sure can’t figure out any other reason for the insanity that we see over and over in Aruba.

    79. 10061906 on December 2nd, 2007 10:40 pm

      klaasend; as always you came through. Thanx

    80. JusticeforNatalee on December 2nd, 2007 11:14 pm

      “… Aruba Tourism has a brand-advertising problem resulting from a PR nightmare. Changing ad agencies will not bring about positive changes in the “consumption” of its product.”

      #72 Exactly! And how many times have we on this forum offered FREE advice:

      To Help Tourism: Justice for Natalee!

    81. Maggie on December 2nd, 2007 11:48 pm

      Ok, Kimberly covered this story just now on the Lineup. Tito was on about Beth and Dave meeting with the prosecutor. Then guess who? The mouthpiece came on again and started his rant about he was filing papers, then changed it to we are filing papers to get Joran released early. How can he work in Aruba? Someone needs to ask the prosecutor that. Who is paying his bill? He does protest too much. Still none of their stories match, but he has no answer for any of that or the many lies Joran has told. I believe he stated one time that Joran has only told 2 lies. Joe said he has read the 14 pages and nothing new. I thought they had a gag order on the stuff? Then Mickey Sherman said how cruel to do this to this family again. A New York Detective said, these 3 were the last with her and told mulitiple stories.

    82. brie on December 2nd, 2007 11:59 pm

      Natalee’s Freebirds..


      Violations of International Law and Human Rights-Premeditated stalking of an American teenager

    83. Meee on December 3rd, 2007 12:23 am

      Little off the trail again. But the “Globe” “National Enquirer” and “People” have articles on the case on the copies that are out on the newstands right now

    84. Pat in Alabama on December 3rd, 2007 12:36 am

      Hitler said that if you repeat a lie often enough and shout it loud enough, the people will believe it. Perhaps Joe has been reading Mein Kampf.

    85. Ray on December 3rd, 2007 1:12 am

      It is a pity that Charles Bronson is dead. He would be the perfect one to interview the suspects in the Holloway case.

    86. mayan_moons on December 3rd, 2007 1:53 am

      Hey Maggie!

      Don’t cha wish Tito would spit the marbles in his mouth out before talking on international tv? lol
      Thank God he isn’t on that much anymore, then there’s Julia……she sounds even weirder kinda reminding me of the way that Arlene Schipper spoke yet Julia’s supposed to be American though right? What a poser she is. Geeeez who’s left, there’s Jossey and another reporter….can’t remember his name but he was very articulate and came across as neutral and very informative.

    87. mayan_moons on December 3rd, 2007 1:55 am

      I second that motion Ray!~

    88. Rammstein on December 3rd, 2007 2:04 am

      “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

      Joseph Goebbels.

      these words are from Joseph Goebbels not from Adolf Hitlter

    89. Carpe Noctem on December 3rd, 2007 7:42 am
    90. Vicki on December 3rd, 2007 8:48 am

      couldnt sleep last night so was watching fox, and tito said that Beth was interrogated for 5 hours at the ploice station..anyone know if this is true? or is that another spin? Its very hard to turn your cheek when they keep doing this…Im running low on virtue.

    91. Pat in Alabama on December 3rd, 2007 8:50 am


      Thanks for the correction. There is a lot in that statement that applies to the situation in Aruba.

    92. Pearl on December 3rd, 2007 10:27 am

      December 1, 2007

      “The judge reasoned Friday that “the new evidence, together with the existing evidence in this case, produce serious grounds for the suspicion of some kind of aiding and abetting, of covering up the traces of a crime committed or of the disposing of a corpse,” prosecutors said.

      But people accused of those crimes do not qualify for PRETRIAL detention under Aruban law, Mos told reporters..”

      Dear Mr. Mos,

      Thank you for the explanation. We will be watching you very closely. This American child was stolen away from her family, illegally held by criminals, and then her body stolen from her family, which led to her not even being dignified with something as fundamentally human – as a burial. The police and prosecutors charged with directing an investigation and upholding justice and integrity to the law engaged in conduct that can only be deemed corrupt and disgracefully shameful. These individuals, charged with shaping the direction that police actions would take in uncovering Natalee’s truth, instead plotted to obstruct her defenseless voice from being heard! The criminal savagery alone in this case should far exceed 15 years. What possible sentence can Dutch law address to the life time of torment and cruelty that has been inflicted not only upon Natalee, the victim, but upon her loving parents Beth and Dave and their entire family? What possible remedy does Dutch law have to the life-time of torment inflicted upon the Mountain Brook students left with the nightmares of Aruban corruption that sought to crush a brutally victimized tourist’s voice? How shall Dutch law address the egregious human rights violations inflicted on Natalee, her mother, her father and their families?

      But to be clear, we have Deepak’s words that tell us plenty about what Satish knows, Deepak knows, Paulus knows and Joran knows – and that is that Natalee Holloway was never REALLY missing because THESE MEN colluded in obstructing this child’s human rights, in HIDING HER BODY from her beloved family, and in mercilessly victimizing Natalee and her loved ones.


      Deepak Kalpoe:

      “If they find the girl, then they will SEE ALL THE “CHIT”.

      “You’ll get 15 years”.

      “Your own father!”

      Mickey John: “the Dutch guy and his father … make up a story together…that they dropped the girl off at the Holiday Inn hotel, … the security guards… everything.”

      Those lies began to be told at 3 AM in the morning, on May 31, 2005 – before anyone had reported through the media that Natalee Holloway was “missing”, while the police claimed first that they were not informed by the visibility team of the report made by the Mountain Brook chaperones, then … suddenly police claimed they were informed first thing in the morning, yet – they NEVER went to aide and assist the Mountain Brook chaperones begging for their help.

      It doesn’t take rocket science, Mr. Mos to SEE corruption. All it takes is integrity and a passion for the TRUTH.


      Honor this child, whose suffering is so brutal, it shames the Dutch and Aruba for what they collectively allowed to be inflicted upon Natalee Holloway and her family.

      Honor this child, Mr. Mos, by stepping into integrity, honoring the law and everything that the law has been screaming out for since May 30, 2005 – when these thugs ended the beautiful life of a precious, gifted, honorable child named Natalee Holloway and began torturing her beautiful family, while both desecrating and denigrating Natalee, the victim.

      Honor this child, Mr. Mos by honoring her RIGHT to have her VOICE HEARD, her TRUTH TOLD, her RIGHT TO JUSTICE FINALLY SERVED.



    93. brenda on December 3rd, 2007 10:35 am

      Here’s what I can say for sure of the K2s and Joran.

      Everyone reading this board knows Joran’s a sociopath. As for the K2s, although they are guilty as hell they are NOT sociopaths. They’re wanna be tagalongs (just plain stupid). Deepak has grown a mustache to appear different. And Satish…where do we even hear or see anything about him? They are cowards who are hiding the best they can to avoid the light (like a vampire).

      I do NOT believe K2s feel guilt for what they did to Natalee, but I DO believe they feel guilty for getting themselves CAUGHT/INVOLVED with this mess! Sadly, the guilt is purely for selfish reasons, they cast their eyes down and THAT is a true display of guilt. Joran on the other hand struts his stuff like a peacock (stressing the 2nd part of that word) and feels untouchable.

      The only person I believe would potentially break silence and tell any truth is Satish. Deepak wanted to protect his younger brother, but Joran…NO…ready to cast anyone else to the lions.

      On well, that said…I see no changes in finding justice any time soon. We have Joran, his mommy and pappy as sociopaths, the K2s feeling sorry for themselves…and K2s mommy in deep denial. NOt to mention a law enforcement department that is non-functional..lead by the noses over $$$$.

      What a freaking mess. I wish those K2s would have been held longer. If Satish didn’t sing, Deepak may have pointed a sticky finger towards Joran and some of the others involved to keep baby bro out of trouble.

      I hope something happens, but Joran will never admit to anything any more than O.J., Scott Peterson, Drew Peterson…etc.

    94. Sharon Chicago on December 3rd, 2007 11:20 am

      I was wondering if they would have taken the boat out from the Holiday Inn area or not?

      I would have thought they would go to an area not by the hotel strip… an area that Koen’s parents normally go to? ….or another area desolate where no one would see them.

      I would think they would want to hide the fact that they were launching a boat at 3am in the morning or whatever time in the mid night hours.

    95. Sharon Chicago on December 3rd, 2007 11:28 am

      I am hoping Sat. meeting with Beth, Dave and the interrogators was fruitful. I am hoping Kelly was there (assuming he was) and that all bases were covered…. that all of the inconsistancies from the 2K’s and Joran and the ALE were confronted head on and that Beth and Dave got some answers/feedback.

      The Netherlands should be totally ashamed of this case on how their system failed an innocent young women, Natalee.

    96. Sharon Chicago on December 3rd, 2007 11:35 am

      Just wondering about Paulus, who is his criminal tie in? Looking at his previous defendants that he represented anyone standout as a drug lord?

      Does Paulus have drug ties, laundering money, etc. like the mafia attorneys do? You scratch my back and I will scratch yours???

      Otherwise, why is it that his 16 year old son is allowed in several casino’s gambling/drininking and also allowed at Don and Charles to drink, whenever he wants to go there?

      Also he claims he knee Deepak for 3 mo’s or so.
      Hardly saw him, yet the night after Natalee dissappears he is out again at night with Deepak.
      One would have thought he would be home very tired from the night before, if he were innocent.
      He knew they would be looking for him and the shoe would drop.

    97. super dave on December 3rd, 2007 12:18 pm

      i think tweaker joe taco and jr. sloot are lovers. why else would the taco defend him so strongly?

    98. kayjay on December 3rd, 2007 12:21 pm


      In order to practice law in Aruba all applicants will be examined (if we have the time) on the following subjects:

      LYING 101 – must be fully proficient – no exceptions.
      OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE 101 – vital – no exceptions
      BRIBERY AND CORRUPTION 101 – no candidate will receive their degree without presenting evidence of at least one successfdul bribe of the judiciary.
      - NO EXCEPTIONS – vital on Aruba
      THE IMPORTANCE OF ARUBA’s TOURISM – candidates must produce three months’ receipts for stay ay Aruban hotel of their choice – no exceptions, they need the business.
      1. DATE RAPE – suggested venue – “Carlos & Chucks”
      2. DEEP SEA FISHING – suggested venue – “Koen’s place”
      3. BREAKIN AND BURGLART – suggested venue -Fishermen’s Huts.
      suggested venues – cocktail party invitation at the home of P & A VDS.


    99. super dave on December 3rd, 2007 12:26 pm

      don’t trust hans any more than anyone else on that craphole island. he probably knows the sloots well.
      i see all of the suspects getting off just like last time. not a single person in aruba has ever given us the real truth although probably a majority of the people there know for sure what actually happened.
      i would not doubt that most of the young party animals there have known from the start. they have nothing to worry about since there is no real lawforce to deal with. it’s plain to see that criminals run this island with ease and little fear of getting caught.

    100. Richard on December 3rd, 2007 1:33 pm

      I’ve long thought that Paulus was on the payoff list of big-time drug traffickers. It’s clear enough that they could benefit from having a judge on their payroll. Look how easily evidence has been destroyed in THIS case … imagine what could be done with an ersatz judge on the payroll.

      Methinks it’s time to start organizing a protest in front of the Dutch Embassy. To begin with, the to-and-froing about who has jurisdiction in this case seems never to have been resolved … just like every other legal issue on Aruba.

      Hey, if the Dutch won’t step in … let’s bring the ball to their court! (No pun intended.)

      After all, they handle Aruba’s foreign affairs.
      Let’s put them in the spotlight as well.

    101. katablog on December 3rd, 2007 1:46 pm

      interrogating Beth? UNBELIEVABLE!!!

      They fail to ask obvious follow-up questions of the 3 prime suspects when they finally got around to interrogating them in 2005. They failed to finish interrogating the Kalpoe brothers during the 8 days they had them in custody this time (per Hans Mos) but yet they pull a surprise 5 hour interrogation of Beth Twitty the mother of the victim?

      Circus doesn’t even begin to describe this one.

      Do not vacation in Aruba! It’s the one crappy little island from hell.

    102. mayan_moons on December 3rd, 2007 4:00 pm

      Can Beth let the American people know just what went on & what was said during this *interagation*? Also her discussion with Mos is something i’m sure all American’s would like to know. I know she can’t tell everything but for ALE to interragate Beth Holloway for 5 hours is OUTRAGIOUS and won’t or shouldn’t be stood for!~

    103. yoyo muffintop on December 3rd, 2007 10:02 pm

      “Look how easily evidence has been destroyed in THIS case”

      What evidence was destroyed? What are the specific pieces of evidence destroyed? One would obviously have to know this to state evidence was destroyed. What exactly was destroyed and what was it evidence of?

    104. Dolf on December 5th, 2007 5:14 am

      @100 Richard:”After all, they handle Aruba’s foreign affairs.
      Let’s put them in the spotlight as well.”

      exactly..its a domestic Aruban affair.

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