RSSThe Dana Pretzer Show – Friday, November 30, 2007 – Guests Include Jossy Mansur, Mike McIntyre, Stephanie Good, Art Wood and Red from Scared Monkeys
This week, Dana welcomes:
- Jossy Mansur, managing editor of Aruban newspaper, “Diario” discusses the Natalee Holloway case.
- Mike McIntyre – Host of the Mike on Crime Radio Show. Mike will discuss today’s crime stories, and the parole of convicted murderer Robert Latimer.
- Stephanie Good, New York Times Bestselling Author of Exposed and her new book A Rush To Injustice discussing the recent Natalee Holloway case arrests, and the suicide of 13-year-old Megan Meier who took her life after a series of harassing MySpace messages from neighborhood adults posting under a false identity.
- Art Wood, former Secret Service agent discussing the Natalee Holloway search.
- Red from Scared Monkeys discusses the media, Aruba and the upcoming seearch for Natalee Holloway.
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Posted November 30, 2007 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Diario, Jossy Mansur, Scared Monkeys Radio | 35 comments |
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for dana, please find out who the judges were for the kalpoe’s first 8 days and who the judge was for today’s hearings.
dennisintn
Kalpoes to be Freed…AGAIN
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071130/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/aruba_missing_teen
Either this new guy is as worthless as the old one, or they’re going to concentrate on Joran.
Then again, we were told long ago that the Dutch would protect their own….
Absolutely, DennisIntl. Were the judge or judges who decided that the Kalpoes could be released the same ones as presided over the earlier travesty?
A poster on an earlier thread says that they continue to be suspects. Let’s hope so….
Meanwhile, let’s continue to urge that people boycott Aruba … as far as I’m concerned, the whole Netherlands Antilles. Common sense alone shows that this is the only sane response.
And this decision comes just as Beth and Dave are to meet with the Aruban prosecutor tomorrow in that wretched island …. Again, hard to imagine that the timing of this decision is a coincidence.
Would ANYONE want to go to Aruba now?
Richard,
Absolutely!
I think there is no better
BOYCOTT ARUBA CAMPAIGN than the one being
conducted by Aruba everyday on the NEWS.
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People would you like to have what has been
done to the dear Natalee and the Holloway Family,
for the past 2 1/2 years, to be done to you and your loved ones?
How would your loved ones deal day to day
with the pain and mental torture of NOT HAVING
ANSWERS about your murder?
BOOK YOUR TRIP TODAY! (not)
Wow, ain’t ARUBA paradise? -j4n
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It makes me sick on a daily basis what they
have put this family through.
Meanwhile, as an antidote to the blow we’ve all gotten from the Kalpoes’ release, read THIS:
http://iberianet.com/articles/2007/11/30/news/news/news80.txt
It’s a story about the people who have donated equipment and money for the water search, which will spend at least two weeks off Aruba.
A more vivid contrast between the nature of the American people and that of the Arubans, or at least some of them, could not be made.
Question to Jossy. Has he read the Telegraaf-article where journalist Van Houten says that the police think these guys sexualy assulted drunk American girls on a regular base. And what does Jossy think is the status and consequence of that statement; is the prosecution not obliged now to prove that in court?
Just heard the news on Fox and posted it at Katablog. This is pure and simple torture. I’m sure the Holloway and Twitty families would rather be hit with a Tazer than to continued to have to endure Aruba raising and dashing their hopes every six months. Just how sick is the Aruban government that they would keep this up?
Trust me, Joran will be released when his 8 days are up too. It’s all just a very sick joke.
BOYCOTT ARUBA, ONE CRAPPY LITTLE ISLAND. Aruba is NOT a vacation spot. It’s the Island from hell.
Wow………so, so so disappointed again…..My heart just breaks and goes out to Natalee’s family. I really do hope they find something on the latest search….would seem to be pretty difficult after all this time…..Now they think the poor girl was put in a crab pot on brought further out to this ledge or embankment? That’s just really horrible. If Joran gets bounced again….then what?? Quite frankly, the whole thing sucks.
Great Show Dana. I agree with your opinion of Taco Joe. Maybe we should boycott any news channel that allows him to run that mouth.
For anyone who listened to the show tonight, I am sure you will agree…Red said it best!
the new chief prosecuter wanted to make sure he got his interview on fox news with greta, well done chap. he had no new information, perhaps some translation/interpretation information classified as ‘new’. unreal. due to the cover-up that happened in the first few days, there will never be any evidence. they will release joran very soon. i truly hope people understood what happened on this island. a young girl was targeted, drugged, raped, killed and disposed of. a corrupt government helped a prominent family dispose of the evidence quickly, thinking it was best for the island, ‘make this go away fast’. well, they messed with the wrong family from the wrong country. i hope every american thinks long and hard before stepping foot on that island and spending a nickel. they should deal with the consequences. we have the choice moving forward. don’t let her death be in vain. boycott aruba forever. this investigation is finished and so is aruba. may god bless this young talented girl who had so much potential. they took one of our best…
On Greta’s show, she and Joe Tacopina dressed up in matching outfits. Then Joe said that they are going in Monday to ask that Joran be released immediately because what’s in those packets from the prosecutor is nada. Greta of course rambled on about how “we” need to see what’s in those packets. She almost sounded as though it was essential to the pursuit of justice that “we”, meaning her, see what the prosecutor has.
Good show Dana.
The prosecutors have 3 days to appeal the decision on the release of the Kalpoes.
Where’s the answer to the statement Satish made, something bad happened. Does anyone ever follow up? I guess the judge isn’t on the side of the law!
And just what are they going to do about Joran and Paulus, we know what happened and someday we’ll tell you, but not now. That is just morally and ethically cruel. Hold them responsible for their statement.
What a disappointment, I feel so, so sad for Beth and Dave. The torture is overwhelming. Will this ever end? My heart aches for them.
Many thanks to our Americans, we at least have the water search.
What about Straaten, he said he has seen the evidence but we haven’t. Would someone like to explain that!!!!!!!!!!!
Stephanie Good’s book Exposed should be required reading for all parents with children and a computer. The Duke rape case is a problem on so many levels. First and foremost, you have young men who were falsely accused by a woman, a prosecutor, Duke Univ and the Black Panthers. Second, you have a prosecutor who doesn’t care about truth or fiction. But also very important is women who make false accusations about any kind of abuse make it more difficult for those who truly are victims. It’s often a difficult charge to prove — rape in particular — and cases like this make it that much harder. Thank you, Ms. Good for being a part of the answers and solutions to some of these problems.
The bumbling investigation of 2005 (intentional IMO) may have left little or no evidence to prove any involvement on the part of J2K in Natalee’s disappearance. Clearly, the sitting around the pool and numerous lies and missteps by authorities indicate they are guilty of something. Something else we know is that the Caribbean, not just Aruba, is rife with organized crime from South America, the U.S. and even Russia, or so I’ve read. Joran’s parents are not wealthy, he’s never held a job that we know of, yet even in high school had plenty of money to drink and gamble, his underage status going unquestioned by anyone. I have to wonder where all the skeletons of some of Aruba’s officials are buried, whether it be Oduber, Van der Straaten, Paulus, Rudy Croes, Ben King, David Kock or the judges. I keep hearing Al Pacino yelling “NO YOU’RE OUT OF ORDER”.
LOL wonder to whom Dana was referring to with the “Dick Tracy reporter running around Aruba talking to witnesses” and having “loud mouth lawyers on” TV comment!!!
What’s the difference between Aruba’s legal system and a jackass…none!
I’m told that the judge involved was none other than Ric Smit (spelling?), the same one as before.
It looks as if the Dutch who wanted answers failed to foresee that the corrupt Aruban judiciary haven’t changed one bit. I saw a photo of the judge who made Friday’s decision (interestingly, the AP caption didn’t give his name), and he looked senile and totally incompetent … like everyone else on Aruba.
I very much wonder what the prosecutor will be telling Beth and Dave when they meet today.
Meanwhile, I understand that on Tuesday is the day when the hearing over re-committing Joran for 60 days is to be held.
If the scumbag is released … the only thing I can think to do is revive the letter-writing campaign. Every single presidential aspirant, as well as the one now in the White House, ought to be quizzed on this travesty of justice … and whether they will stand by and do nothing.
P.S. … I’m still not abandoning my hypothesis of human trafficking, and Aruba knowing that letting the truth out would destroy its tourism-based economy.
Let’s do our best to make sure their economy is destroyed, truth or no.
15. Brie. I’ll add to your question the statement by one of the Kalpoes that Satish woke up Monday and asked Deepak how the girl was doing. In other words, they both knew something was wrong. It’s in the police statements they gave.
#l2, ah, yes, the old translation/interpretation gambit. the damn island brags about being fluent in 5 languages but actually can’t communicate effectively in any of them. not the kind of place i want to ask for help finding a disappeared child.
dennisintn
..#21.Richard..It’s Rick Smid, a friend of PVDS and he’s the one that stayed at the Sloot’s house. Judge who released Joran in 2005. He is Dutch judge in Curacao. Found him under Aruban Who’s Who
Of all the judges..how did manage to pull that one off.
Richard and Brie: That explains everything!
I really think Hans Mos is trying to do an honest job with this round of the investigation but if he can’t get rid of the lines of corruption (like Paulus’ friends as the judge), he has no chance. This is shameful.
Thank you Aruba for giving Americans one more reminder of why we will continue to BOYCOTT ARUBA UNTIL HELL FREEZES OVER.
…26..Katalog…Crooked people walk a crooked mile…..I would think the background on Smid has something to be desired. I also think Hans Mos is trying to do an honest job, but the barriers he has to confront….I would think the prosecution and the 13 lawyers in the Netherlands need to remove anyone involved in this case that has any relationship to Paulus. Appeal the decision, based on personal association and personal friendship. The judge is nothing more than a hindrance and should not in anyway be involved in this case. He’s there to do his repeated damage.
Hans you have got to know by now your dealing with the impossible. There is so much corruption on that island, shameful to the Dutch. Your need to set your rules and guidelines and do not use any judges involved with Aruba. Bring in your own judges, clean house, get rid of the trash.
If this is not solved your in total damnation!!!!!
And while your at it Hans, why is Posner, the criminal he is, allowed to own and operate a hotel and casino in Aruba…Paulus did the paper work!
Apparently Posner supplied Joran with everything he needed to be an underage participant in any activity’s associated with the Holiday Inn. Just happened to be a place where Natalee stayed. Tell me he’s not involved!!!!!
We will do our very best to make sure no American ever, ever visits your island again. And you can count on that!!!!!!!!!!
I still want to believe Hans and I hope he gets what he wants. About the only positive thing we have ever seen.
Arubans need to help! Let’s solve the case!
One more thing, Anita and her conversation with Beth and Greta concerning Natalee’s under garments…that was ill…Anita is gross and it had to be of been extremely upsetting to Beth, but that was Anita’s intention….if she so describes Natalee’s under garment’s..Natalee was at the house.
I’d like to repost this here as well, respectfully including Dana -
ALSO, we are fired up now about the release of K2 + worried JVS will be released too.
Imagine how everyone will react come December 31st IF THIS CASE IS DISMISSED!!!
That makes me very uneasy. How do the rest of you feel? I don’t like the fact they have already given themselves “an out”/”sorry we tried our best type of excuse” w/ the pending possibility of a dismissal.
So what then Mos? Are JK2 going to be completely free?
Does that mean if The Persistence Team does find Natalee, (God Bless them!), after Dec. 31st, JK2 can NOT be held accountable because of this Dec. 31st deadline and thus the judge ruled “CASE DISMISSED”
Red, Klass, Dana help – can you shed some insight, if heaven forbid, the case is dismissed?
Is Mos, is anyone in Aruba EVER going to convict the guilty JK2 (and PVS imo) of ANY criminal act?!
J4N
Well, I’ve always thought that there was a link between the news that the water search was finally going to begin (and Aruba apparently is in no position to thwart it, this time) and this latest move (gambit?) by the Dutch.
The prosecutor has pledged to decide by Dec. 31 whether to prosecute anyone in this case.
I’m sure the Dutch know what the American reaction will be if the case is declared over, and then remains are found in the water. Legal technicalities don’t go over well with our people.
I don’t know what will happen, of course, but the decision to release the Kalpoes has been appealed.
Next news: Tuesday, when Joran will either be held over for another 60 days or let out of jail.
Let’s hope that there is indeed some “new evidence.” Then again, with the same judge making the decisions, will it matter?
In the U.S., that judge Rick Smid would be obliged to recuse himself.
In Aruba … the law depends on who is speaking on what day. And as for professional ethics …
don’t even try to tell us that they exist there.
If Tacopino is going to Aruba, what about JQK?
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SM: JQK is there right now with Beth and Dave (klaasend)
According to CNN Beth and Dave have been interrogated for 3 hours! Well that is not a bad thing… Go for it Hans!
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SM: One would think that new Dutch investigators would want to meet with the family to get their perspective and what ALE told them initially.
Do not confuse the terms interrogate with discussion. Deepak, Satish and Joran are suspects, Beth & Dave are not and never have been.
R
I’m sure Beth and Dave gave the prosecutor more information and presented many facts. Haul in Jacobs butt too for asking Dave how much money he had. You can count on the fact that they didn’t go unprepared. Hopefully it gave Hans alot of fuel. And he better find a judge that is not corrupted, if there are any? Too much power in wrong hands.
Apparently Smid had already seen the new documents and agreed that there was reason to hold them. Then to Hans surprise the direct opposite happened. Something was said about not being able to hold them on pre-trial because the penalty for the information only resulted 3 yrs of prison and it has to be at least 4.
Aren’t you tired of seeing Deepak and Satish haul their garbage bags around. Not to mention everything else. Let’s see some handcuffs and get on with the daily prison attire. Just get the job DONE!
“Aren’t you tired of seeing Deepak and Satish haul their garbage bags around. Not to mention everything else.”
Thanks for the laugh brie….i needed one.