Natalee Holloway: Renée Gielen, You May Just want to Stay in Aruba to Complete your so-called Documentary


Why blame the victims when the suspects are right in front of your nose? Go to the US? The story, the suspects and the crime are all right there in Aruba.


Renee Gielen announced last week in the Amigoe that she was working on a documentary on the Natalee Holloway case and that she will also go to the US especially for this to further investigate. Of course her theories have been widely criticized as a joke. Instead of heading to the US, Gielen may want to stay on the Caribbean island of Aruba where the suspects of the crime actually reside.

Amigoe, November 26, 2007” Exclusive images of Joran during the stopover

ORANJESTAD/WILLEMSTAD – These exclusive pictures are from Renée Gielen, TV-producer and documentary maker, who lives and works in Curacao. She has been following the Holloway-case from the beginning in May of 2005. She was one of the few people that knew that Joran van der Sloot’s flight from the Netherlands to Aruba was going to make a stopover in Curacao last Friday. While at the airport of Aruba, all sorts of camera crew, photographers, and journalists were waiting in vain for his arrival.


Van der Sloot arrived with KLM in Curacao on Friday afternoon. According to reports, he was the first passenger to enter the airplane in Schiphol and was the last one to leave the aircraft after landing in Curacao. He left for Aruba with Dutch Antilles Express (DAE) a few hours later, all this time escorted by the Aruban chief of police Dolphi Richardson.

Gielen, who took the pictures, has also made TV-recordings. She has been working for 2.5 years on this matter and she has witnessed the presence of the American broadcasting stations CNN, Fox News, NBC, and CBS. Gielen announced last week Saturday in the Amigoe that she is working on a documentary on the Holloway-case and that she will also go to the US especially for this. She has hours of visual material. Her statements about the possible drug-addiction past of Natalee – based on declarations of her stepfather Jug Twitty and his friend Mitch to the by now former cabdriver Trina – has caused Gielen a whole lot of criticism; especially from Telegraaf-crime-journalist John van den Heuvel, who swept the floor with her in his column on the website of De Telegraaf. He doesn’t believe anything from her theory and assertions. He literally quotes text from the Amigoe, without naming the Antillean/Aruban newspaper as the source.

Other than Gielen, was Vigilante the only newspaper in Curacao that has pictures of Van der Sloot’s stopover in Curacao. The morning paper Vigilante that is specialized in local police- and justice news, was clever enough to buy a ticket and so get into the departure hall of Curaçao International Airport and recorded Van der Sloot and his escort sitting at a gate. These images were spread through the world via CNN, who also mentioned their source.

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  • Comments

    88 Responses to “Natalee Holloway: Renée Gielen, You May Just want to Stay in Aruba to Complete your so-called Documentary”

    1. JusticeforNatalee on November 27th, 2007 1:19 pm

      More like a CROCKUMENTARY coming from Gielen.

      Stop the lies about Natalee–you are disgusting.

    2. dennisintn on November 27th, 2007 2:21 pm

      renee is a sick joke. her piece on natalee and her family is so full of blatant lies that it makes everything she’s ever done suspect. when does a liar become a liar? i put her in the same category as renfro and munzenhofer. pens for hire, who will write anything for the right amount of money.

    3. Miss-Underestimated on November 27th, 2007 2:41 pm

      Beth should sue her. If Joe T. was going to sue ppl for calling Joran a murderer, surely Beth can sue for defamation of character for Natalee.

    4. RSHA on November 27th, 2007 2:43 pm

      But maybe doc Phil is right, and Natalee is at the moment a woman of negotionable affection somewhere down under.

    5. da_wench on November 27th, 2007 3:29 pm

      Yep, Gielen is a real piece of work. Who is paying that nutjob to lie about Natalee???

      Greta interviews Hans Mos. Here’s an exerpt:
      VAN SUSTEREN: Since you’ve been here, you’ve actually sort of surprised all of us when a press release came out saying that there had been new evidence that has led to the arrests. How do you define new evidence?

      MOS: New evidence is evidence that we didn’t have before. As simple as that.

      VAN SUSTEREN: All right. And does it have to be of a compelling nature? Or can — I mean, does it have to be — is it sort of damning evidence, like, evidence that would make a prosecutor think, Oh, my God, you know, now I know — now I’ve got the goods?

      MOS: Depends on the case and depends how far you came in the past. You know that the evidence in murder cases could hang up to just one hair of a suspect. And that is just a very small piece of evidence, but it’s very important. And what we gave to the judge is evidence, and it was enough to arrest these guys again after two years, after they had been freed by the court in Curacao. So the judge weighed this evidence. And of course, when you arrest a person two years later, after he’s been freed, you have to have some serious stuff. And that’s exactly what we handed over to the judge.

      Serious stuff? Let’s hope so!!

      I want to believe him. I am so hoping that they have enough to convict the b*stards!


    6. Sherry on November 27th, 2007 4:26 pm

      Something about that photo makes Joran look like he is wearing high heels…
      SM: :) :) :) I’ll have to take a closeup of that (klaasend)

    7. brie on November 27th, 2007 4:38 pm

      I guess Paulus will fall in line behind Satish in the chain gang.

      Gielen is probably a friend of Anita’s, just like Renfro. They all lie and talk crap!

      Wonder if Anita will have a teaching career when it’s all said and done. Who would want their child in her classroom?

    8. Awa on November 27th, 2007 4:38 pm

      Any news at the moment???
      SM: You’re in ARUBA, why don’t you tell us if there’s any news? (klaasend)

    9. brie on November 27th, 2007 4:44 pm

      …#6..Sherry, I though so too at first. But I think what we are seeing is the wheels on the luggage. The luggage blends in and looks like his leg. Of course, it wouldn’t surprise me if he wore high heels. Well, he wears lipstick and make-up!

    10. Awa on November 27th, 2007 4:57 pm

      SM: You’re in ARUBA, why don’t you tell us if there’s any news? (klaasend) doesn’t mean I’m there at this time
      SM: Very true, you might be in the Netherlands :) (klaasend)

    11. Awa on November 27th, 2007 5:08 pm

      SM: Very true, you might be in the Netherlands :) (klaasend)

      In the Netherlands ? Why?
      It can also be another country

    12. Awa on November 27th, 2007 5:09 pm

      But yes I have dutch connections

    13. Miss-Underestimated on November 27th, 2007 5:21 pm


      Your forte…that photo of the three in stripes.
      Could you do them dancing to the song by Dire Straits….walk of life….but could be they do that walk for life as in getting life?

    14. Allan on November 27th, 2007 5:32 pm

      Some people in Aruba are just damn dum. All Renege does is make people more upset with Aruba. After one look at that stringy hair witch Renfro who would believe her. She doesn’t even take care of herself. I truly believe there is something mental going on.
      (etc. Not any oars in the water)

      Aruba this is not a good thing letting these witches fly around. Lock them up and protect yourselves, you are going to get hungry with these mental patients spewing lies.

    15. Patrick Gangemi on November 27th, 2007 5:53 pm

      I hope this time,this new Prosecutor, takes these three pieces of garbage down. I just dont know if I have the right mind to believe in these people who have already ruined it from the beginning.

      Hey Proscutor!

      Dont B.S. US again!



    16. 10061906 on November 27th, 2007 6:04 pm

      Sherry: that is the stand on the suitcase from Joran’s caddie. I had to look twice. It looks like a flamingo dancer’s heel or just a flaming heel.

    17. Patrick Gangemi on November 27th, 2007 6:06 pm





    18. Richard on November 27th, 2007 6:24 pm

      Suggestion for this Gielan, or whoever she is:
      if you’re based in Curacao, do a documentary on the kidnapping of Amy Bradley from the cruise ship that docked there in 1998. But I bet you wouldn’t dare, would you?

      RSHA, number 4, the Amy Bradley case is what caused me to suspect something similar in Natalee’s fate. But what we’re hearing from the Dutch, at least, suggests it isn’t so.

      I’m still keeping an open mind, though.

    19. renee on November 27th, 2007 6:34 pm

      No news in Holland, Klaas. I (and others) would let you know.
      SM: Thanks! (klaasend)

    20. Melissa on November 27th, 2007 6:36 pm

      Hi guys I’m in ARUBA… but for me is like every day of my life just enjoying it, everybody is doing so cause we don’t even worry about the case that joran is back in Aruba etc. because the girl that is missing in Aruba is not a President or a Queen of US that everybody must pay attention to her and bow for her and give her attention like omgg she’s missing in Aruba! Let’s blame it on Aruba pff whatever buh bye

    21. 10061906 on November 27th, 2007 6:45 pm

      The rats haven’t deserted the sinking ship yet; but it appears they are having lifeboat drills.
      Just listen to the tone of the defense attornies.
      They are trying to throw up a smoke screen of doubt but all they are doing is making it look bad for the three or four or five or,,,,,
      Anyone else have any idea why Dennis Jacobs had such a fixation and continued to ask Beth where Natalee’s debit card was.
      To me it appeared that he was expecting it; someone who was supposed to get it for him; may have seemed to be holding out and Dennis was trying make sure that person was telling the truth that Natalee did not have a debit card on her. Read Beth’s book and the section on crack houses, puntas and debit cards oh my.

    22. 10061906 on November 27th, 2007 6:47 pm

      That was supposed to come out “Oh My” quotes.

    23. Awa on November 27th, 2007 6:53 pm

      @Patrick Gangemi
      I can’t undestand that you are enjoying this.
      You must have sick mind too.

    24. jim on November 27th, 2007 6:54 pm


    25. da_wench on November 27th, 2007 6:57 pm

      #6 – It’s the wheels of the suitcase the other guy is pulling but at first glance it does look like the sporter is wearing pumps…lol.

      #8 – Breaking news. Awa posts on SM only to annoy the other monkeys.

      #9 – haha…so true. Anita’s delicious sporter wears lipstick.

      #20 – I wouldn’t give a rat’s arse if you ended up missing, melissa! Your attitude is what is making the world hate Aruba. Stay on your filthy, lying island-o-hell!

    26. Mike on November 27th, 2007 6:59 pm


      Could you put the crack pipe down and try to speak English?

    27. KrisG on November 27th, 2007 7:04 pm

      #20. Perhaps if it was your mother, father, sister, brother or even an evil spawn of yours you would care just the way we care about Natalee.

      If I were an Aruban I wouldn’t
      welcome Joran back or even want him there after reading his book. He does not put the young men of Aruba in a good light. I’ve been to Aruba and will only return and spend my hard earned money when there is Justice for Natalee Holloway!

      I’m a person who loves to travel. On my latest trip to Italy I discussed Natalee with our tour guide. She mentioned that crime happens in every country but that Aruba billed itself to be such a crime-free place. I spoke to many travellers on the trip. People from all English speaking countries–New Zealand, Australia, Canada, South Afica and the USA. Not one plans to travel to Aruba until there is Justice for Natalee Holloway.

    28. Sahara on November 27th, 2007 7:04 pm

      Joe T says that the boy wants books and stuff. I’ll send him a copy of Beth’s book, a book of Natalee photos, and a Bible. That should give him something to do.

      Yep, the lawyers and trolls are both jumping around like the heat is on high!

      Crank it up!

    29. Maggie on November 27th, 2007 7:12 pm

      Anita or Arlene is that you? “That Girl” as you refer to her as, is Natalee Holloway. You aren’t a queen or President that everyone must pay attention to you, you are just a that girl so pfffttt.. USA don’t rely on Aruban’s tourism to the USA, like Arubans rely on American tourists. I suggest you don’t bite the hands that feeds you.

    30. Maggie on November 27th, 2007 7:16 pm

      Once again JoeT and his pals are making their rounds on shows today to tell us that “the evidence is nothing, but old news.” He used to be a prosecutor, I’m sure the same tactics used on these 3 were applied in his days. Joran wants to read a bible? give me a break. Give him the page with the 10 commandments and the golden rule on it. I’m sure he isn’t near as uncomfortable and mistreated as Natalee was on her last night in Aruba.

    31. M Dabby on November 27th, 2007 7:18 pm


      Contrary to what you say, you are worrying about the case and about what is being said, given that you bothered to come here, read and post on how you think people that are not dignataries or celebrities do not deserve attention. I guess your convictions are projections of your feelings of inferiority about your recent past …100% colonized, 100% perception of being a second class citizen.

    32. Maggie on November 27th, 2007 7:26 pm

      This is from Greta’s interview last year, so if Joran has been talking to the Kalpoes sure blew this interview..

      VAN SUSTEREN: Have you had any conversations with Deepak or Satish?

      VAN DER SLOOT: I haven’t said one word to them.

      VAN SUSTEREN: Text message?

      VAN DER SLOOT: Nothing. I’ve had…

      VAN SUSTEREN: Phone call?

      VAN DER SLOOT: Nothing. I haven’t had any contact with them ever since then.

      VAN SUSTEREN: Are you curious to talk with them?

      VAN DER SLOOT: No. I don’t want to talk to them anymore.

      This one is laughable he only told the cops 2 lies.. well, how about Natalee asked me out, I won money for Natalee, Natalee pushed me and fell and hit her head etc. What a lulu.

      VAN SUSTEREN: Other than the lie about the Holiday Inn and the two guards (INAUDIBLE), did you lie to the police at all?

      VAN DER SLOOT: That’s what I said to you about that, that Deepak Kalpoe and Satish dropped me off at my house. That’s (INAUDIBLE)

      VAN SUSTEREN: So two lies, essentially.

      VAN DER SLOOT: Yes.

      VAN SUSTEREN: Any other lies?

      VAN DER SLOOT: Any other lies? No.

    33. martini on November 27th, 2007 7:30 pm

      Renee Gielen is a good contact, she knew what flights Joran was on (KLM) first class no less.
      She has the bug to make money off of this tragedy as well. I know the corruption on these islands first hand. Tourism is an important part of Aruba but it is not just American tourist that go there. Aruba unlike some other island can depend on their oil refineries and tourism from South America and Europe. They will take care of their own. Transparency will come some day but not in the near future.

    34. da_wench on November 27th, 2007 7:31 pm

      #31 – ^5 – Very good point!

    35. Maggie on November 27th, 2007 7:41 pm

      Renee, Julia Renfro whoever, I don’t even read these stories. Everyone with half a brain knows they are made up. If they were in the USA, they would be facing million dollar lawsuits. Remember when Oduber wanted to shut Jossy up and was taking him to court. Do you see him trying to shut these kinds of stories up about a victim in his country or her family?

    36. brie on November 27th, 2007 8:15 pm

      …#20…you must be talking to Anita, she said Natalee was just one girl..and you pretty much have the same attitude…why so much attention?…then why so much cover-up and corruption….blame Joran and the Kalpoes…but I guess your a friend of the enemy…maybe a member of the pimp club…maybe Freddy’s girlfriend..whatever you are it’s not good.
      When trolls post these things it only makes matters worse for the people of Aruba.

    37. dave on November 27th, 2007 8:16 pm

      “I love it when a plan comes together” ;-) ~

    38. brie on November 27th, 2007 8:23 pm

      ….#20…the way you refer to Natalee as if her life didn’t matter…that’s Joran’s mindset…maybe someone needs to investigate your text messaging!

    39. disgustedmom on November 27th, 2007 8:26 pm

      #s 4 and 18

      Just watched that Human Trafficking Story today and I really have to wonder if Natalee were taken for such use. It is surely possible.

    40. Patti on November 27th, 2007 8:36 pm

      Melissa sounds more like a valley girl who is trying to shake a few cages. Too bad SHE didn’t go missing in Aruba, then maybe she’d understand that Queens aren’t the only ones that deserve to be bowed down to.

      Valley Girl… pffft!

      Klaas: Do you know if she was actually posting from Aruba, because, as long as I’ve been here, I’ve never heard anyone act as disrespectful and nasty as that. If she’s Aruban, it puts them in a whole different light… like too kool…
      Aruba, California style.

      Still wouldn’t be caught dead…

      SM: Yes, actually posting from Aruba just like she says (klaasend)

    41. buster on November 27th, 2007 9:03 pm

      aruba blows and so does #20

    42. Patti on November 27th, 2007 9:03 pm


      If Melissa is any indication of what you got going
      over there, it’s no wonder you’re in so much trouble. The whole world is watching and your citizens have the nerve to do a middle finger in the face of Natalee, who isn’t a queen, but could have been one; and all those that care about her? And you wonder why we boycott you and tell people not to vacation on your island.

      Your kids are out of control and your values are virtually non-existant. I don’t know about you, but for a girl to say that about another girl is fighting words. So, at this point all I can say is that I will fight not only her, but your whole island with more gusto than you have ever seen before.

      Your island is going to be buried in the ditch, and will never recover. Better check on your tee-pee, Melissa, your sky is falling.

      Aruba – The Ex-Isle

    43. Patti on November 27th, 2007 9:10 pm


      I wonder how much she charges?!?!?!

    44. brie on November 27th, 2007 9:12 pm

      Just read an article on Cnn…Joran is requesting family visits, newspaper, magazines, TV and even a Bible. Your not in a motel, your in jail. Got it!!!! I say give him nothing. He wants to read about what the media is saying and needs coaching from his family. Joran would use a Bible for toilet paper. No luxuries for you just plain old jail. You need to concentrate on what you did!

    45. viet vet on November 27th, 2007 9:26 pm

      35. Yes Maggie, Renee has some incorrect information or better yet is putting out incorrect information. I have talked with Mitch and Jug and they know absolutely nothing about what she is saying she got from Trina the cab driver. Mitch told me, sounds like Abbott and Costello’s old “whose on first” routine. Mitch knows a lot about the whole story and has shared it with the FBI. This was some time ago, but I know they shared it with the Dutch.. something about photos taken of a barrel and something about the boat and Croes. I won’t go into it all because Mitch did not give details, he never does. Mitch can be mysterious, but his info has always proven correct with me. Keep the boycott up and their feet to the fire. Seems like the new order is moving right along on this case. The boys may as well come clean, it is the easy way out. They are doomed otherwise. Loose lips sink ships.. they have shot themselves in the foot this time.

    46. Lisa on November 27th, 2007 9:40 pm


      No she’s not a president and she’s not a queen. She’s an AMERICAN and we take care of our own. If we “Americans that believe in Justice for Natalee” stood side by side we would probably out number the entire population of your sad little Island. When we say we are from America, We say it with pride. When we say Natalee was an American Daughter we say it with love. What can you say for Aruba – One corrupt little island that cannot stand for honor, truth or justice. We have learned truth is not the Aruban Forte so it really comes as no surprise that you go on day by day not seeming to care and living the Aruban lie. How terribly sad for you.

    47. ayfit on November 27th, 2007 9:41 pm

      A Queen? Yes, one could call Natalee that. I know Natalee and Beth. Oh, and by the way , The acord doesn’t fall far from the tree.

    48. ayfit on November 27th, 2007 9:48 pm

      Just saw a snippit [preview] of Gretta’s show tonight. Tune in , this looks good. Seems they[people in aruba] have a new sport. Car washing during predawn. I suppose they wish to avoid sun spots. Or might it be evidence. Depak’s neighbor speaks out.

    49. JusticeforNatalee on November 27th, 2007 9:51 pm

      Yeah, yeah, Melissa. It’s obvious you are worried about your island; otherwise you wouldn’t have come here to post.

      Instead of saying things about Natalee, why don’t you just hope and pray that Hans Mos puts Joran and the Kalpoes behind bars?
      You should be on Mos’s side–because if he is successful at convicting the perps, that is a GOOD THING FOR ARUBA.

    50. Miss-Underestimated on November 27th, 2007 9:56 pm

      Melissa, can I call you by your first namebackwards Ass-il-em?

      Not the big story on your island. This is more than likely the last time your island will see so much money, once the media goes away it will be


      BTW Ass-ilem, do you know that your island is fake.

    51. kayjay on November 27th, 2007 10:01 pm

      Just watched Greta’s interview with Hans Mos and my initial reaction was that the man sincerely wants to see the case solved, and I do not think the decision to rearrest these evil punks was taken lightly. He indicated that they will have to prosecute or dismiss Dec 31 (unless new important evidence turns up) but my question to anyone out there who maybe knows more about the law than I do is: What happens if these three refuse to answer the questions and keep silent?
      Hans Mos indicated he was looking for clarification of certain things from these three, but its quite likely he won’t get it. In my opinion these three are hard boiled liers and criminals and they know the score. That is why I am so hoping that there is even one hair of physical evidence, and I hope Hans Mos is not setting too much score on Natalee’s body being found because I’m sorry but I think its really too much of a longshot after two and a half years although I pray I am wrong.

    52. Richard on November 27th, 2007 10:28 pm

      DisgustedMom (#39) … What story on human trafficking was that? I’ve long thought this was the case; but we have to see what the latest remarks by the Dutch mean. I don’t think they’re toying with us; the issue is, once again, the corrupt Aruban establishment.

      The Aruban media will publish anything. Hell, they’re probably on orders from someone to try to stir up the people there.

      Hey, Arubans, get off your butt for a moment and THINK. Wasn’t it PvdS and the dear little sporter who said they could care less about our (voluntary) tourism boycott on Aruba?

      And wasn’t it your own government that whined about how immoral and illegal it was, as if WE, the American people, owed YOU, the Arubans, anything at all?

      My suggestion: start demanding that YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT DO THE RIGHT THING in this case.

      My guess: you’ve already lost years and years of potential tourists who know there are better places to go. Someday you might recover your lifeblood of tourism (though, frankly, if you never do it won’t bother me).

      But if Aruba tries to pull anything again on this case … you are DONE FOR. Permanently.

      Boycott Aruba, as if your life depended on it.

      And don’t go to the rest of the Netherlands Antilles either. Remember Amy Bradley and Joel Gove.

    53. martini on November 27th, 2007 10:38 pm

      Stop all of you.
      Stop watching this circus.
      It is Insane!

    54. Melting on November 27th, 2007 10:38 pm

      You know, Melissa is right…why would they care about any new break in the “missing girl” case. For people like her, PVD and Co., it is just a regular thing to discount human life. This is a society (as a general observation) that allows school age “children” to go out gambling, drinking, doing drugs at all hours..well, in Joran’s case..partying until he has to catch the bus for school. I must be honest though, and say that if the US doesn’t make some hasty changes concerning our children and their extracurricular activities, we too will end up as a society that will not be stirred in the least about any “missing girl”, boy, person. We too will just throw up our hands and defend our deliquents.

      Notice how, like most psychopath murderers, these people fail to give “the girl” a name…that alone speaks volumes about some of these people. Unfortunately these horrible traits seem to rest in the laps of the power players on the island and it is ruining the reputation of them all. I feel sorry for the people of Aruba…the up-standing, hardworking, citizens who DO care are having to pay the price for the corrupt families who apparently are (hopefully *were*) running the place. Such a sad situation all around.

    55. brie on November 27th, 2007 10:43 pm

      Deepak washing his car at predawn, must of been something on it, like maybe blood. Or some indication of where the car had been.

    56. Achilles on November 27th, 2007 10:43 pm

      No justice No Tourists, besides who would want to go to an island where they don`t give a rat`s ass about finding a missing tourist.If anyone does think these guys know what happened they need some serious help.And Millisa or whatever name your using today “the girl” has a fricking name NATALEE!Just think if were your daughter asswipe!

    57. Melting on November 27th, 2007 10:48 pm

      #44 brie, I didn’t read that he requested a Bible…that actually gives me some encouragement! He feels he has no one but God-and boy is he ever right-for once. God will def. hear a true repentant prayer if Joran gives his waste of a life over to Him. If he does this, God will give him the strength to confess what he knows and grace to pay the consequence. This request for a Bible is in Natalee’s best interest.

    58. brie on November 27th, 2007 11:00 pm

      Well I would like to think a request for a Bible would be in Natalee’s best interest. But knowing Joran it would be for other reasons. Probably another one of his acts. Maybe not, I hope your right!

    59. allan on November 27th, 2007 11:05 pm

      Are the Dutch police going to work on prosecuting the boys gang raping the girl while the other took pictures with phones while in school? You know the boys like to take pictures of their crimes.

    60. on November 27th, 2007 11:37 pm

      Tacopina on Greta lying again. Exculpatory evidence for Joran? I don’t think so! So they didn’t get a full outright confession in the police car. Sure wasn’t an “innocent” conversation!

    61. da_wench on November 27th, 2007 11:50 pm

      #39 – I think a lot of people believe that is a possibility. But that doesn’t change the fact that the 3 jokers were last with her and their stories don’t match up. Their stories don’t match because some or all of them are not telling the truth. So if she has been sold into slavery, one or all (and I think most people believe all) know what happened to her. If the truth is told, Natalee can be found, whether that be in another country or the bottom of the ocean.

      #44 – ^5 The sporter needs to stop crying and just man up.

      #49 – It sure doesn’t seem like some in Aruba want to earn their reputation back. They are claiming that the island is free from corruption and the suspects are innocent lambs being pursued by the lioness Beth Holloway. Hopefully that’s not true and Melissa is just a angry teenager trying to get attention.

      Get help, Melissa. Your attitude will not take you far in life.

      #50 – Hey Miss U…you crack me up.
      Ass il em…lol.

      #57 – If it were only true that Joran was looking for guidance in a holy book. Personally, I think it’s for show and sympathy.

    62. Maggie on November 27th, 2007 11:54 pm

      Katablog I agree. I think they knew they were being taped in the car anyway. Remember Deepak said he thought early on their chat sessions and telephone conversations were being monitored. He also said Joran told him that, no doubt coming straight from Paulus.

      JoeT made another round tonight to tell us it’s nothing. I think the Aruba attorneys are listening to JoeT on televison. Also think they are watching each other on tv, so they can see what the other is saying to advise their clients.

      JoeGreasy T. saw him get out of answering yes or no to Greta about that tape she wanted to watch he says he has. He wouldn’t let her watch it. Another load of bs. See him start stuttering trying to figure out what to say to her. How can he go to Aruba and offer anything in this case? He is an American lawyer that can’t practice there and therefore does not represent Joran.

      Notice Greta going to the neighbors of the Kalpoes asking them about the Kalpoes washing their car in the middle of the night that night? Once again trying to throw the Kalpoes under the bus like Joran and the others. If this were the Kalpoes alone this would’ve been over 2 years ago. They want the truth out and want this to be over yet refuse to talk and none of their stories match. Do the think everyone drinks the same koolaid as they do? I laugh everytime I see Joe or his sidekick tell how Joran is a saint.

    63. JusticeforNatalee on November 28th, 2007 12:14 am

      Joran wants a Bible?
      Probably just a ploy; he wants people to think he’s a swell guy.

      Does he plan to read where it states, “Thou shalt not kill”?

    64. Juan on November 28th, 2007 12:22 am

      How does one know that the so called “Crockumentary” isn’t being made by one who posts right here on Scared Monkeys. Is Gielen one of these posters who sleeps, dreams, lives, eats, and like Greta who wants the highlight of her career to break this case?

      #63 You sure like to jump to conclusions!!!!!!
      SM: Highly unlikely since 99% of her material comes directly from the RefugeesUnleashed site (klaasend)

    65. Mike on November 28th, 2007 12:38 am

      The only things that I would like to send Jurine is someone to tattoo breasts on his back, “I Love Bubba” on his arm, and a case of KY Jelly (a week’s supply). He might as well go ahead and change his name to Jorraine. Tell your ugly ass mama to send you some pretty underwear.

    66. Melting on November 28th, 2007 12:38 am

      If we examine the lies and the story changes better…we might see what Joran is trying to protect himself from. Is he really lying just to stay out of jail? I don’t think so…his story and the Kalpoes are def. fabricated with other parties in mind. Notice how in interviews he is always smirking-he could care less about the media/the polis..he has bigger demons on his back..

      #63 Hopefully he will read “vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord” …YIKES… Unfortunately it will probably just have margin notes containing the plans for his Dad’s latest lies. They better look over EVERY PAGE of that Bible!! They all gotta be on the same page this time as there will be no margin for error. Every lie points to some degree of personal guilt…can’t argue that.

    67. disgustedmom on November 28th, 2007 12:45 am

      #52 Richard, that show about Human Trafficking is a movie with fictional characters but it was carefully based on reality of how it all goes down and how hard it is to find and actually rescue someone. It was made to draw attention to sex trade and open peoples’ eyes to the horrors of it. I found it quite interesting because it defies the normal consensus of opinion that the girls who are taken into the sex slavery industry (and it IS an industry) are from poor countries etc and shows that a girl could be kidnapped while on a very innocent date BY her date, and that age is not necessary limited to under 18. Other details of how the operation is run and ways they transit the girls is in there too. It’s quite graphic as well and disgusting! The show has played many times on cable channels; it was a Lifetime Mini-series that first aired in Oct 2005. It was on yesterday and again today but I don’t see it scheduled for tomorrow…maybe later in the week? It’s just called Human Trafficking. You can buy it on Amazon. :)

      Joran and a Bible? Somebody give him one and see if he turns it upside down!

    68. weasel on November 28th, 2007 12:48 am

      David Koch, Satish lawyer was on Fox last nite.
      All I have to say is:


    69. disgustedmom on November 28th, 2007 12:56 am

      Richard…I know you’re interested in this subject in general so…go to this link…there is information there about the movie, but also some true stories and some information from an actual ICE agent.

    70. yoyo muffintop on November 28th, 2007 1:36 am

      #62 Maggie: “Notice Greta going to the neighbors of the Kalpoes asking them about the Kalpoes washing their car in the middle of the night that night? Once again trying to throw the Kalpoes under the bus like Joran and the others.”

      haha – now Greta is in on the cover-up for PJVS? Oh boy, here we go again.
      That’s rich…
      SM: yoyo, has anyone ever told you you’re very irritating? Actually Greta attempted to visit with the Sloot’s first but they weren’t home. No doubt Greta is in it for the ratings just like all the rest of the media. (klaasend)

    71. Patti on November 28th, 2007 2:37 am

      Remember when, Prime Minister, Nelson Oduber said

      he was sick & tired of hearing “that GIRL’s” name?

      Honestly, I think they call Natalee “the girl”

      because it’s an old Indian superstition to refer

      to the dead by their names…. it puts a hex on

      them. So here ya go, Aruba…







      and don’t you forget it…

      We won’t.


      Boycott Aruba

    72. dave on November 28th, 2007 8:30 am

      #70 SM – The The single and only purpose of a TROLL is to be “irritating”. Do not feed it, let it wallow in it’s own misery.

      “I love it when a plan comes together”

    73. canada day on November 28th, 2007 8:42 am

      Next time Joe Taco appears on TV why doesn’t Greta / anyone ask him why Urine refuses to spill the whole story. Urine said be would tell all one day. Why not now? If he isn’t “guilty as hell” there is nothing to hide.

    74. disgustedmom on November 28th, 2007 10:10 am

      Am I to understand that Greta is currently going around the island trying to get in the way of this investigation AGAIN? Is she really visiting around the Kalpoe and VDS house?

      If so, that silly woman needs to take a chill pill and calm her ass down! This is really no time for Greta’s sleuthing.

    75. Miss-Underestimated on November 28th, 2007 10:22 am

      Joe T. had confidence in the Aruban Legal system when his model client was released. Now he is claiming they have no new evidence. Well, Well,
      Joe wants to meet with MOS.

      Whasamatta, now you don’t like it?

    76. JusticeforNatalee on November 28th, 2007 11:53 am

      I would think that the everyday people of Aruba would be PLEASED to have Joran and the Kalpoes behind bars.

      After all, the Dutch press reported that the Aruban Prosecutor is convinced that Joran and the Kalpoes have raped and drugged before!!

      You should be glad if they are locked up. Do you want them to do the same thing to you, your daughters, or your girlfriends?

    77. Pat in Alabama on November 28th, 2007 12:25 pm

      I haven’t posted here in over a year, but I just can’t hold back any more.


      Your ignorance about life is overwhelming, and the sad part is I suspect you are an adult posing as a young person. Your language, as in “the girl” sounds just like the perps and their families. The girl has a name; it is Natalee. She had friends, family, past successes and dreams for the future. She was a real person, created by God, and should be remembered as such. It is easy to think of her as a thing, an object, when you use a generic term like “the girl”. That is exactly what she was to your boys – an object, a toy to be used and discarded, then call daddy to clean up the mess.

      Natalee was not a queen per se, as we do not value or bow down to royalty here. We value EVERY human life. In our Declaration of Independence from England are these words:

      “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

      As a human being, and as a young American we value Natalee more than you will ever understand. We also value justice and basic human rights. Those of you who get on this board and make comments such as yours (#20) will not make this go away, you only fan the flames of the cry for justice.

    78. brie on November 28th, 2007 12:30 pm

      Mos does not have to meet with Taco Joe, he is nothing more than a nuisance. There had to new evidence otherwise the suspects could not be re-arrested. And the prosecution does not have to present this all at one time. They’re unanswered questions that are important to the case. Also phone taps and text messaging that they didn’t have before.

      I believe the prosecution knows what they are doing. And by all means doesn’t want any outside interference like that had the last time. Paulus and his stinking advise and criminal friends.

      I also don’t think Hans Mos is not going to let anyone push him around. It’s more than obvious the boys are lying, conflicting stories and trying to put blame on each other. Many, many questions have never been resolved and Mos wants the answers.

    79. katablog on November 28th, 2007 2:03 pm

      YoYo: There is NO question that if VDS have their way, the Kalpoes will be thrown under the bus. This is why the Kalpoes need to get very smart, very fast and spill the beans. They have the most to lose in all of this – because whatever their actions were that night, we know they were not alone. Joran and Paulus were involved. Joran and Paulus would be more than happy to hang the Kalpoes in order to escape any accountability.

      I certainly hope the Aruban system will allow Mos to keep Paulus and Tacopina away from Joran. These two enable Joran. Mos needs to ensure that no messages get to Joran through anyone. This may be why they are denying even reading material – to ensure that papa sloot doesn’t sneak in messages.

    80. Richard on November 28th, 2007 3:23 pm

      Thanks, DisgustedMom. I’ve seen this, but wasn’t sure what film it was to which you referred.

      The Aruban trolls who appear here just reinforce my conviction that Aruba is not a fit destination for decent people … and won’t be, even if the Natalee Holloway case is solved and the guilty punished.

      No wonder their tourism director took that West Palm Beach job (though it’s a disgrace to THIS country that it was offered to him). He’s probably one of the smarter rats who smelled the ship going down….

    81. Patti on November 28th, 2007 4:18 pm


      I think you’re right on the mark in everything you said. The Van der sNOOTs have been trying to throw ANY one they can under that bus. And they’ve had alot of help from dirty officials. I think they tried to hang the Kalpoes in 2005 and I think they are even more desperate, now.

      The problem with the Kalpoes is that they want things both ways. There have been rumors that the Van der sNOOTs have been paying them to keep quiet, which, if it’s true, is the same as recieving blood money. There is going to come a time when they either have to jump ship and tell the truth or go down with the ship.

      I’ll never forget when Joran told the investigators that Deepak had buried Natalee at the Fisherman’s Huts. Deepak and Satish, both, were pleading with Joran to “Just tell the truth”. Funny how the tables have turned and now the whole world is pleading with them.

      How they can remain quiet, after all the tricks Paulus pulled on them during the first investigation, is a total mystery to me. For the love of money, perhaps; the Bible says one will stab themselves over and over again and do damage to their very soul. Let’s hope the Kalpoes have given up their hopes of becoming rich and, for once, consider what is really at stake.

      Justice for Natalee!

    82. Richard on November 28th, 2007 5:16 pm

      Joran wanting a Bible? The same scumbag who was drinking, gambling in a casino ILLEGALLY (at age 17), and who the Dutch police say probably was drugging and raping other American girls too?

      Even the Aruba media publicity circus must have found that one a bit hard to believe … if it isn’t a manufactured story to try to woo the world’s press, I’ll eat my hat (if I had one).

      And maybe Anita vd Scum MIGHT believe it … but surely nobody else will.

    83. Maggie on November 28th, 2007 6:17 pm

      YoYo, show me where I said Greta is part of a cover up? Greta has stated numerous times she is suspicious of the Kalpoes. If this were just about the Kalpoes, this would’ve been over and done in June 2005. Read Joran’s interview with Greta, repeatedly he tries to point the finger at the Kalpoes, in one of his police statements, he says Deepak raped and killed/buried Natalee by the fisherman’s huts. Even took the cops to the beach, but got mad and hit the hood of the police car with his handcuffed hands, when he got there.

      First it was blame the 2 black security guards then it was blame the Kalpoes. These guys were getting together repeatedly meeting at the Van Der Sloots with Paulus present. No way, if it were just the Kalpoes.

    84. resolution on November 28th, 2007 10:31 pm

      Urine gambling & drinking @ age 17? Oh, I bet it was much, much younger than that. He’s been doing many things for a long time and probably has been taught by papa.

    85. yoyo muffintop on November 28th, 2007 11:00 pm

      Maggie – “Notice Greta going to the neighbors of the Kalpoes asking them about the Kalpoes washing their car in the middle of the night that night? Once again trying to throw the Kalpoes under the bus like Joran and the others.”
      There ya go – imo you are saying Greta is in on some conspiracy to finger 2k and not Joran.

      #84 resolution – bad parenting from both Aruba and Mountain Brook wouldn’t you agree? I believe most would.

    86. resolution on November 29th, 2007 8:13 am

      #85 – Are you referring to Natalee’s parents? Give me a break. How dare you compare the parenting skills between the two families. Hope you are not a parent. Yoyo…hmmm…name kind of describes the mentality.

    87. Dolf on November 29th, 2007 9:59 am

      Quote:”“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

      As a human being, and as a young American we value Natalee more than you will ever understand. We also value justice and basic human rights. Those of you who get on this board and make comments such as yours (#20) will not make this go away, you only fan the flames of the cry for justice.”

      the rest of the world already knew that the US only cares about the US and about those rights, have you been reading up on your own politics.
      The US is the only western country who can imprison ppl without laywer/judge acces (on a caribian island…) or ships out suspects to be tortured or throws out rules and regulations becuase it suits them better.

      Yeah the Bush admin. did a lot of good

    88. Maggie on November 29th, 2007 5:30 pm

      If I meant Greta was part of a cover-up, I would’ve said so. Greta is a defense attorney and sounds like one usually. I do give her credit for covering this story, but don’t believe Greta owns this story. Scared Monkeys has stayed with this story daily since day one. Other news channels on tv read a story here and there and go out and comment haven’t seen 1/3 of what we have here daily. Once and awhile they report an item on it and then it’s gone again. It’s like introducing Joe as Joran’s lawyer on this case. Totally false.

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