Aruba, How About Some Defensive Driving Classes? Fourth Traffic Fatality in One Week


Safety on vacation. Now vacationers have to worry about the care-free, no Aruba_accident_Malmokresponsibility attitude of life in the fast lane on Aruban roads. 17 deaths in 2007 already? Seems like a pretty high amount when factoring the number of actual drivers. Can people just take some responsibility when they are behind the wheel?

What is happening on the roads in Aruba? They now have had 4 traffic fatalities in one week. In 2007 Aruba has already had 17 traffic deaths as compared to 14 deaths in traffic in 2006. Such news really makes one want to rent a car if one actually decides to go on vacation to Aruba.

This is just another aspect of safety issues that seem to get glossed over. One would think that you would always need to educate drivers as to the rules of the road, not just when traffic fatalities go through the roof.


“We need to educate the road-users to change their driving behavior and enter cooperation with other organizations.”

Spokesperson John Larmonie warned the public again this morning to make sure that there will not be more casualties in traffic, not to speed, and to comply with the right-of-way rules.”

Amigoe; October 29, 2007: Fourth death in traffic within one week

A 37-year old man died in a frontal collision near Malmok on Sunday. 

ORANJESTAD – There was another death in traffic yesterday.  The 37-year old Fausto Arends died of his injuries after a head-on collision with an oncoming car.  Arends is the fourth death in traffic within one week and the 17th this year, three more than last year.  

The accident took place on the Malmokweg at about 13:30.  Arends drove in the direction of the hotels, decided to pass the car in front of him, and did not see the oncoming car and they collided.    Four persons were injured and an ambulance rushed them to the hospital, where Arends soon died of his injuries.  The Public prosecutor took possession of the body for further investigation.  

Compared to 14 deaths in traffic in 2006, this year there are 17 until now.  One of the police corps’ priorities this year is to drive back the number of deaths in traffic.  During the presentation of the police’s annual figures, Chief Peter de Witte predicted a higher number of deaths, if the road-users do not change their driving behavior.  He also said at that time that the police could not do this alone.  “We need to educate the road-users to change their driving behavior and enter cooperation with other organizations.”

The number of traffic surveillance increased this year and the police imposed almost 300 fines in the past two months.  Spokesperson John Larmonie warned the public again this morning to make sure that there will not be more casualties in traffic, not to speed, and to comply with the right-of-way rules.”

Posted October 30, 2007 by
Aruba, Crime, Travel | 61 comments

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    61 Responses to “Aruba, How About Some Defensive Driving Classes? Fourth Traffic Fatality in One Week”

    1. Rob on October 30th, 2007 9:30 am

      Here’s a video I made a lil while back…seems to touch on this subject…some of you may have seen this before… and it could be new to others.

      and don’t forget to read the comments from the Aruban Brain Trust posted on my YouTube account. It’s always a good idea to leave the comment section open to see exactly what we’re dealing with here.

      I had over 400 shots of traffic accidents and only used a small sample. I could have made three videos of all the traffic accidents alone.

    2. Miss-Underestimated on October 30th, 2007 9:54 am

      Oh, good thing this happened now, can you imagine if this happened when Beth and Greta were in Aruba?

      They would have blamed Beth and Greta.

    3. buster on October 30th, 2007 9:59 am

      Aruba get in you cars and drive drive drive !!!

    4. Mohican on October 30th, 2007 11:13 am

      The statistics need some qualifications…a young girl and her grandmother died because it took the ambulance 2 hours to arrive at the scene…they bled to death due to a confusion between two ambulance dispatch terminals. This is also about negligence due to lack of procedures in community emergency services.

    5. brie on October 30th, 2007 11:48 am

      Probably stopped for a prior visit to C&C’s. Of course we’ll blame the public, why are their so many accidents? Who knows what tourist are getting in their drinks. Not to say everyone needs to be responsible for being behind the wheel. But just what exactly is happening. The number of accidents and deaths is increasing all the time.

      I think Dompig is now responsible for issuing driver’s licenses. There was an article about this not to long ago on how many people are driving around with invalid driver licenses. Mostly immigrants.

    6. brie on October 30th, 2007 11:57 am

      Can’t find any police at the station, ambulances can’t get to scene of an accident, the whole place is going to hell. Nothing safe about that island, nor is it even happy.

      Just one unsafe, unhappy island. The brochures certainly need to be changed. Seems like a one way ticket.

    7. Vicki on October 30th, 2007 1:02 pm

      Lieruba will continue to suffer because they havent freed Natalee. They are going to hell in a hand basket….when they do the right thing by Natalee then they will once again be okay…God does not like ugly. He is angry that you stole his child. Give her back….

    8. Gabriel Leo on October 30th, 2007 6:14 pm

      So News has become boring in the US that car accidents from the island has become another topic on this great site. Go MonKEYS!

    9. Mike on October 30th, 2007 7:09 pm

      I can name a few more people who would be a traffic accident fatality if I caught them crossing the road in front of me. OOPS, I do not guess it would be classified as an accident if you back up and run over them a second time???

    10. dave on October 30th, 2007 7:37 pm

      another brainless comment from #8 of the TROLL gallery. Amazing how these idiots get thier rocks off.

    11. Allan on October 30th, 2007 7:38 pm

      News is not boring here either. Just when things go wrong in Aruba it naturally feels good. No, I don’t feel good about any persons death. Hate to say it but yes I despise Aruba with a passion. Its about the damn dumbest and most corrupt place that I know of and has been shown worldwide what a little despicable place it truly is.

      Aruba you have earned what you get.
      PS Joran,Paulus pimps go to hell.

    12. Carpe Noctem on October 31st, 2007 6:30 pm



      Dude, you need a training bra to

      cinch up your flaccid li’l

      man titties!

      Knock Knock

      Who’s there?

      A ten count of situps!
      Try it “Mikey”… we
      know you’ll like it.

      Beth is truly a good, decent lady…

      She took a pic with you at her book
      signing. She treated you like you
      were somebody. Even tho’ we all know
      you ain’t lizard chit!

      I hope you got enjoyment
      out of wearing your Aruba
      flag polo in front of Beth.

      You’re a hateful a$$.

      You are the best anti-Aruban
      tourism campaign anyone
      could ask for!

      Keep up the good

      work, Shamu. -j4n

    13. brie on October 31st, 2007 10:38 pm

      Go gettem’ Carpe..!

    14. Vicki on November 1st, 2007 8:48 am

      How sick are these ppl that can et in front of a grieving mother and ask her to sign your book for freakin ANITA…Anita knows the story…but you know what Carpe, it may do Anita some good to read Beths words…and the horror she had to deal with from the freakin govn and what police work???any good cops were soon shut down, thats why ppl there walked off the case…urines own lawyer tried to tell…they are the ones causing all these problems on the island…but they continue to blame everyone but themselves…just like the corrupt cops in portugal…trying to blame Maddies parents…disgusting….JUSTICE FOR NATALEE

    15. JusticeforNatalee on November 1st, 2007 3:10 pm

      Okay, Aruba. It’s almost time for your

      Are you going to punish the perps?

      Are you going to stop the cover up and give Justice to Natalee?

      Be wise, Aruba. Your image needs a major overhaul and you can start with punishing criminals who kill tourists.

      Start now by giving JUSTICE TO NATALEE HOLLOWAY.

      Americans revere justice. We are watching.

      We stand by the Holloway family forever.

    16. JusticeforNatalee on November 1st, 2007 3:20 pm

      #8 Hey, Gabe,

      Scared Monkeys IS a great site. You know why? Because they have remained steadfast in their dedication to Natalee and her LONG OVERDUE JUSTICE.

      Aruba, weren’t you supposed to be growing and now you are down in tourism numbers? Bad news for Aruba.

      Just give Natalee justice. You cannot move past this case.
      You think you can but the lid’s off now. Beth has referred to Aruba’s investigation as a cover-up. Just how many tourists do you think will visit Coverup Island?


    17. JusticeforNatalee on November 1st, 2007 3:36 pm

      And stop blaming Beth for the boycott!

      She did not cause it. The perps, Aruban officials, and law enforcement caused it by THEIR actions. All who were involved in committing crimes against Natalee or who covered up afterward are responsible for the boycott!

      So stop blaming Beth because she didn’t cause it!

      Yes, it’s a shame if some everyday people of Aruba are suffering because of the boycott. But the blame goes on the perps and officials.

      Put the blame where is rightfully belongs!

    18. Miss-Underestimated on November 1st, 2007 3:37 pm

      Carpe is there a photo somewhere?

    19. JusticeforNatalee on November 1st, 2007 3:39 pm

      LOL correction #17 last line “is” =”it”

    20. Carpe Noctem on November 1st, 2007 4:32 pm


      I would have been trying
      to poke his eye out with
      an effing swizzle stick!

      They would have had to take
      my hiney downtown, and then
      bailed me out!

      > Beth’s gotta a lot of class.


    21. Carpe Noctem on November 1st, 2007 4:38 pm

      Hey ARUBA,

      It is time to go pick up that big BABY HUEY,

      CLIFFORD THE BIG RED DOG lookin’ mo-fizzle

      Joran Vandersloot!

      You need to get some ‘Justice for Natalee’ and

      drop kick his sorry a$$ right back into the



    22. JusticeforNatalee on November 1st, 2007 7:54 pm

      Viet Vet
      Front Page Comments
      June 7, 2007

      Claudio, Alberto, and Gabriel all tried to help us and in the beginning Julia Renfro was with us. About Wed. or Thur., someone in the government or tourism or law enforcement,,or more probably all of the above started talking to the people who were trying to help us get some answers. I do remember them talking to some of these people and telling them to watch what they were saying and doing. It appeared they put pressure on anyone they could. Charles Croes and Julia turned on us fairly quickly, but they did have leverage on them.


    23. JusticeforNatalee on November 1st, 2007 8:01 pm

      Another interesting post from Viet Vet:

      posted by Viet Vet on the front page of SM:

      There is always doubt because of all the lies and cover-up tactics, but as to who was behind the cover-up besides Paulus and his friends,,make no mistake it was the Aruban Tourism Minister and his aides. ALE did whatever they were told or paid to do. We knew in the first few days that they (Dept of Tourism in Aruba) wanted the whole story to end and very quickly and very quitely. When they had their first news conference as soon as Dompig ended his update, the Tourism people said “No Questions”. Of course we (Jug’s friends) said Hell no, you can’t have a news conference and answer absolutely no questions. It caused a big yelling match which ended with a few questions being asked by the news media. Word spread fast about a cover-up larger than Watergate, 25 Jets bringing news crews showed up the next day. The ALE and Aruban government still will not talk about what they think(know) really happened. They know and the longer they keep it bottled up, the more damage it will do to their future…Boycott the SOB’s …till they talk.

      courtesy SM/TforN

    24. EURobert on November 2nd, 2007 8:48 am

      Off Topic

      Yesterday (nov 1) the dutch minister of internal affairs and kingdom-relations published the answers to the questions that were asked about the Natalee Holloway Case by a member of parliament some weeks ago, on the ministries website ( ).

      1. Question : Do you know of the report that members of the US house of representatives have asked for a hearing about the role of the FBI in the investigation to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.
      1. Answer: Yes.

      2. Question: Do you know if this hearing will take place and if former police commissioner Gerald Dompig is invited to this hearing.
      2. Answer: There is no hearing planned. As far as we’ve learned this is all about a citizens-initiative on the internet to press for such a hearing.

      3. Question: What is the status of the second opinion that is implemented by the KLPD to the investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. When can the chamber / parliament expect the results of this investigation?
      3. Answer: Because this investigation, under the leadership of the Aruban Pros. Office, is still ongoing I cannot say anything about that.

    25. JusticeforNatalee on November 2nd, 2007 10:30 am

      Thanks, EURobert.

    26. richard on November 2nd, 2007 11:10 am

      What is the status of the second opinion that is implemented by the KLPD to the investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

      Huh? What is this “second opinion” and what does “is implemented” mean?

      Their English is better than my Dutch, but it seems very obscure … perhaps deliberately?

    27. brie on November 2nd, 2007 12:18 pm

      Way back when the Dutch had already admitted it was a botched up investigation. Aruba sure made a big mess of everything. And refusing the help of the FBI was just plain ridiculous. Alot of things have already been uncovered. We now know about their crime and corruption. It would of been better to solve the case.

    28. EURobert on November 2nd, 2007 1:24 pm

      # richard on November 2nd, 2007 11:10 am

      Did I translate question 3 incorrect? Or don’t you understand why the minister put it that way?

      To be sure here another attempt… Q3: “How far has the investigation into the disappearance of NH, by the KLPD (=second opinion) progressed?

    29. Carpe Noctem on November 2nd, 2007 2:03 pm

      Right Brie… and who could possibly forget Antonio Carlo, gettin’ PUNK’D by Peter Devries with a hidden camera? LOL

      Antonio was tryin’ to lie his way out of his meeting with Karin.

      He SAID/WROTE TO KARIN JAANSEN the fact that






      Peter said he had proof of that, and let there be NO DOUBT

      that he said and did those things.

      That is not allowed, and it reeks of more corruption. These peope are filthy!

      Aruba has been like an overflowing sewer since this thing began.

      …and it’s almost like nobody on that island even cares! They would just rather walk around in the sewage and not even try to clean it up.

      Aruba sux!


    30. Miss-Underestimated on November 2nd, 2007 3:36 pm

      Carpe #20, wait is that a dude posing with Beth, looks like a woman, you sure that is the correct pic?

    31. Carpe Noctem on November 2nd, 2007 4:02 pm

      Some notes on IN THE FACE OF EVIL PART 6:

      …with the Dave Holloway comment about how

      he doesn’t think it is likely the boys

      alone could have done a clean sweep of

      disposing her body for good… I think

      there is a good chance he is right about that.

      *** Supposedly, the boys

      were always springin’ a wizzer

      everytime SEA SEARCHES were mentioned during


      I think maybe the WALLOPING JORAN AND CO. F-TARDS…

      panicked, and hastily ditched the body at sea.

      I think they may have even have been such idiots,

      that they screwed it up… and needed some help

      with a do-over.

      BZZZZZZZzzz, NICE TRY pimps!

      That may have been

      part of their early plans… until JORAN’S

      FATHER HIT THE FAN, that mondo Dutch stink load.

      When/if she did float up, or a boat was trolling

      for her & picked her up maybe, BLACK TEAM, or


      in a ringy dingy to that heaping pile of snit,

      Joran’s Dad and/or VanderStraaten…

      … from there the ZANY “SPECIAL FORENSICS PROS”

      from Holland take over. ID those guys, if it

      hasn’t been done yet. -NEXT-

      Sea burial, numero 2…. the PROS are

      savvy with making bodies disappear for good!

      They do it right this time.

      *That maybe some of what we see in the CHICAGO

      TAPES at the rocks, near the Lighthouse. From

      there to Marriott Basin VID #24… from there

      out to sea again, and this time far enough

      to not float back ashore.


      There are definitely body parts

      viewable on that vid footage

      at the rocks, and I see what

      looks to be a shark head/body.
      (sure looks like it to me)

      By the time those village f’n idiots

      Oduber, and Croes found

      out what the boys did with Nat’s remains…

      They were SO UTERLY HORRIFIED at what TEAM J-BO

      had done… they thought it’d be wiser

      to just put a lid on it & make her go BYE BYE!

      Hey it worked for Max DeVries,

      why not Nat too, right?




      BAD IDEA YOU ENFLAMED ASHOS, we’re onto your Aruban style charade, and we are still comin’ atcha like a hurricane, stronger than ever!

      I don’t use this word often, but I’ll drop

      it on this post just for you… You

      guys are friggin serial > WEENIES.


    32. Carpe Noctem on November 2nd, 2007 4:21 pm

      Miss U…


      We need to start calling him “Tootsie”

    33. brie on November 2nd, 2007 5:30 pm

      Why do you want to protect a child, a phsycopath, guilty of kidnapping, rape and murder, of which, I am sure he confessed early on in the game. Not wanting to find help! But being 17 Paulus arranged for dismissal, no lawyer present when he convenient…He knows he did it…and you Paulus and Anita allowed it…He’s been sick for along time..let’s investigate the behavior of Joran in the past…He didn’t belong in the casino and he didn’t belong in the HI, or anywhere else. He’s underage!!!!!

    34. brie on November 2nd, 2007 5:53 pm

      Anita and Paulus, you really, really suck as parents! I fell sorry for those you are raising. I also think you have been a huge disgrace for the island of Aruba…You know Joran was sick…and still allowed him to be a public image…where were you….it didn’t matter..he has a past history of why is he in C&C’s…you weren’t observing and paying attention….he never should of been there! If that had not of happened, Natalee would of still been with us.

      Your son committed a crime and that will never go away!!!!

    35. brie on November 2nd, 2007 5:56 pm


    36. Carpe Noctem on November 3rd, 2007 12:36 am

      Oh, and a couple of

      more observations

      from today.


      #24 VID. 2:47 time

      She looks like she took a

      punch in the left eye.

      Additionally, her cheek looks

      like it has a gash in it. (knife)

      Nat eye and facial comp.

      justice 4 natalee – pronto!

    37. Vicki on November 3rd, 2007 9:03 am

      #36- Carpe, Every time I look at these pictures and see Natalees eyes open, I wish someone would hurt J2K badly….Its so disgusting what they did to her…Her eyes being open is just plain wrong…why wouldnt they have closed her eyes…i realize it helps in seein its er, but its awful….

    38. brie on November 3rd, 2007 11:06 am

      There is an article in National Examiner for the week of Nov 12…headlines state..Natalee Killer Confesses-But cops let him go…Shocking reason why…

      It says much of Holloway’s information comes from investigative reporter Peter de Vries, the host of a Dutch crime show similar to America’s Most Wanted.

      “Peter and his team discovered and broadcast startling revelations from their own investigation into Natalee’s case that we had not heard before,” she says(meaning Beth)

      Most startling is Joran’s near-confession June 18, 2005. Holloway writes, When a detective called him a “devil”, the report says that Joran, ‘lost it’ and stated: I know what you guy think. You think I had sex with Natalee and that I called my father and that my father came and that we hid the body.

      “Peter de Vries is very suspicious of that statement because the role of Joran’s father, Paulus, had not yet been discussed.”

      It’s a two article but pretty much says what we already know. But couldn’t pass it up when I saw the headlines.

    39. Richard on November 3rd, 2007 12:12 pm

      EURobert (#28) … Do I understand that KLPD means the Dutch police? And that their review is what is referred to as a second opinion?

      I’m not being critical … your English is certainly far superior to my Dutch (and probably to my English as well) … but I think the phrase ‘second opinion’ is generally used in cases such as when one doctor recommends an operation. If the patient is reluctant to go along with this, he/she asks for a second opinion from another doctor.

      So I guess you’re talking about something such as the Dutch review of the Aruban investigation?
      Or the team that was sent over, God knows how many months ago, and ever since then has been (we’re told) ‘reviewing the paperwork’?

    40. JusticeforNatalee on November 3rd, 2007 12:43 pm

      Wendy surely has a way with words, doesn’t she?

      “This is a cover-up and these three little pieces of trash on this island, as far as I‘m concerned, they‘re like minor terrorists, We might as well go to Iraq and Afghanistan and vacation there because what these people are doing on that island. Allies are friends, and friends help each other in a time of a crisis. This is a crisis. You have an American. You took one of our people on your soil. You know what happened to her and you know who did it , and you‘re letting this go by?”

    41. EURobert on November 3rd, 2007 2:14 pm

      # Richard on November 3rd, 2007 12:12 pm

      You’re right about the expression “second opinion”; in the NL’s we use that as the name of a second doctors-advice as well. And yes, it’s used in the question of the member of parliament in the sence of a review (of the ALE’s investigation).

      I just copied that phrase because it was litteraly what the MOP asked. So… If it’s a wrong usage of that phrase…. Hìs mistake!

    42. Carpe Noctem on November 3rd, 2007 7:19 pm


      I read that Wendy Murphy
      link you gave yesterday…

      I couldn’t agree more. They are
      trash. They are dime-store terrorists!

      …and last time I checked, terrorists
      are we liked. We hunt them down and
      eliminate them.

      Justice for Nat!

      (nothin’ less)

    43. Carpe Noctem on November 3rd, 2007 7:57 pm

      > aren’t well liked.

    44. Carpe Noctem on November 3rd, 2007 11:15 pm

      I know what you guy think. You think I had sex with Natalee and that I called my father and that my father came and that we hid the body.

      “Peter de Vries is very suspicious of that statement because the role of Joran’s father, Paulus, had not yet been discussed.”


      He is just the gift that keeps on giving, ain’t

      he Uncle Jed? Much like a bad case of the

      friggin’ Clap.

    45. richard on November 5th, 2007 2:47 pm

      Wendy Murphy … please pose this question to the people in OUR OWN GOVERNMENT who seem totally indifferent to the attempt by Aruba to pretend Natalee Holloway never existed.

      Maybe we can get an explanation about why OUR OWN GOVERNMENT isn’t interested.

      Thanks, EURobert. I guess that it’s one of the many cases where idiomatic usage isn’t always in line with standard English. We Americans do all sorts of things to the British English that pretty much prevails in Europe (I’ve taught English overseas, including in Portugal, and I know).

    46. Carpe Noctem on November 5th, 2007 9:04 pm

      Her eyes being open is just plain wrong…why wouldnt they have closed her eyes.

      Hey Vicki,

      Because these guys are vermin, and they don’t
      care about anything else in this world except
      “getting theirs.”

      If there’s one thing that they made abundantly
      clear in this case, it was that.

      That will catch up with them sooner or later.

      One day they will lie, smirk, snicker, sneer,
      and challenge the wrong person… and you
      can finish the rest of this sentence…

      (it’ll be bloody)


    47. brie on November 5th, 2007 9:05 pm

      Our government should upmostly be involved in solving the case of Natalee… don’t allow passports to Aruba…do something to protect our American’s…our child on vacation…victimized by the psychopath of the island…letters to the President….

    48. brie on November 5th, 2007 9:11 pm

      It’s way beyond time that our government needs to do something about our missing American..I am sure there a loophole somewhere that would allow us to investigate!!! Joran committed a crime..and he not worth saving…I have done this 20 times before…or more…!

    49. Carpe Noctem on November 5th, 2007 9:22 pm
    50. Richard on November 6th, 2007 12:19 pm

      Letters to all of the presidential aspirants might help. I’ve written several times to Mike Huckabee, who as governor of Arkansas backed the voluntary boycott, asking why he won’t speak up now. No reply….

    51. brie on November 6th, 2007 5:35 pm

      The election poles today were a great place to be….neighborhoods coming together and what more of a perfect opportunity to discuss Natalee and the situation in Aruba….let’s put our politican’s to work…this is America!!!!!! Amen!!!

    52. brie on November 6th, 2007 6:16 pm

      One disappearance of an American could represent a hundred, a thousand or many more. Our forefather’s fought for our country for many things….and today we are still thankful they did… to show any disrespect to an American, that is trying very hard and more to find her daughter, dealing with the corruption and those in gov’t and the Ale of the island of Aruba…the Netherlands need to take control and solve the case of Natalee’s disappearance….you have now got an island of nothing but trouble….Natalee, a great American, loving life, loving people, having fun, enjoying her friends, celebrating her graduation and accomplishments, looking forward to a promising life…all taken away by a know uncontrolled psychopath…no he is not worth saving but Natalee was!!!!

    53. brie on November 6th, 2007 6:28 pm

      You can write letters to your local travel agencies in your area warning them of the dangers of visiting Aruba…you don’t have to sign them. Don’t send our people there! And if they want to continue to book to Aruba, don’t use them!!!! It’s OK to publish your thoughts and comments in your local newspaper. Any questions…read Beth’s book…in addition to Dave’s…none of this should of ever happened…the people responsible for treating Beth and Dave the way they did…are guess who! Those responsible for Natalee’s disappearance…are guess who!

    54. brie on November 6th, 2007 6:45 pm

      Anita can forget it..Paulus lost interest in her a long time ago….and he continues his background and interest through Joran…who sends their child off to college with a cd filled with porno., to keep him awake in class….these people are sex sick..and then we have Freddy, our neighbor, the porno video freek, that’s allowed to stay in Joran’s apartment that night Natalee disappeared….connect the dots!!!!

    55. brie on November 6th, 2007 6:51 pm

      Bring the Kalpoes to the US..they can be extradited…let’s have some justice for Natalee!!!

    56. brie on November 6th, 2007 7:18 pm

      I’m beginning to think they drowned Natalee in the Sloot pool! She maybe tried to run away and hit her head…Freddy was photograhing and Joran was the assuluant… that could be the reason of unconsciousness… !!!!

    57. brie on November 6th, 2007 8:39 pm

      Freddy was at the apartment… the video FREEK…..Natalee was taken to the apartment…she maybe realized what was happening to her…knowing Natalee she probably wanted to escape…Freddy was there….no doubt about it…he’s a porno and likes it…..Paulus likes having him around…!!

      As far as Freddy, your a suspect…

    58. brie on November 6th, 2007 8:45 pm

      Connect Posner with Freddy…a link!!!! Connect the dots.!!!!5

    59. JusticeforNatalee on November 8th, 2007 11:15 am

      Posted by Observer in the forum:

      Forbes list of Over Hyped Beaches

      Palm Beach,Aruba
      This mile-and-a-half long strip of white sand on Aruba’s east coast is like a coastal Vegas. Palm Beach is also home to a new breed of pestilence — time-share hawkers. Rest assured, you will be repeatedly asked to view time-share apartments in hotels in return for shopping and gambling vouchers.

    60. richard on November 8th, 2007 12:51 pm

      Hey, everyone, I just found two Caribbean stories. Unfortunately, the computer I’m now using doesn’t allow cut-and-paste.

      One of them: a Shreveport, La., man is “missing and presumed drowned” on St. Maarten.

      The other: the body of Joel Gove has been recovered on the island of Saba. You will remember that he went missing in December, the locals and the Dutch couldn’t be bothered to search for him, and the family was trying to raise funds to finance a search.

      Apparently hikers found the body by accident.

      More great work by the Dutch in their ABC islands. With friends like them, who needs enemies?

    61. Vicki on November 8th, 2007 4:41 pm

      Looking at the number of “suicides, drownings, falling over balcony and these car wrecks, soon we will have noone left to boycott….They are so happy and busy but have to pester ppl to buy time shares there?????

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