Aruba: Skeleton Found by Tourists was Remains of Shipwrecked Sailor from 1886 … That was Fast


They certainly do things quick in Aruba when the news is beneficial … What ever Aruba_Archeologyhappened to island time?

Thanks to good arrangements with the police, the archaeologists were there fast.  Due to their forensic knowledge network, archaeologists are always called when bones are found in Aruba.


Skeletal remains found by tourists in Aruba a couple of months ago near Boc’i Brik about two months ago were determined to be that of those belonging to shipwrecked sailors of the German ship ‘Hero’ that was lost in a hurricane in 1886. It certainly was a rather quick and public determination as to the skeletal remains as compared to many items of evidence that have been uncovered during the investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba.

It leaves one to wonder that what happened to the skeletal remains and what was ever determined to evidence uncovered during the investigation. One minute a story is published that bones are found, the next minute they are off to the Netherlands for investigation and then nothing ever said. Then there are other bones found that no one has any real scientific answer to.

Bone pic 2

Its amazing what they uncover 121 years later in Aruba. At this rate we will be reading a story in 2126 that another set of bones were located in Aruba as well.

Skeleton ‘Boc’i Brik’ is German shipwrecked sailor

One of the archaeologists at work during the research on the skeleton of Boc’i Brik.

ORANJESTAD – Scientists of the Archeological Museum Aruba (MAA) concluded that the skeleton parts that tourists found near Boc’i BrikArchaeological (left of the small Natural Bridge near Puente) two months ago are the remains of one of the shipwrecked sailors of the German ship Hero that wrecked in 1886.  

The museum says that this conclusion must clear up all speculations that went around after the bones were discovered.  Thanks to good arrangements with the police, the archaeologists were there fast.  Due to their forensic knowledge network, archaeologists are always called when bones are found in Aruba.  They couldn’t beat the desecrators of graves though.  The scull and jaw were missing and some of the bones were not right qua ‘anatomic context’.  The archaeologists do not think that only nature was to be blamed for this.  Despite the big cultural-historic value, it seems that people have opened the tomb. 

It now appears that these people also knew that there were more persons on board of the Hero that were buried here after they were washed ashore.  All the tombstones were removed and sold. 

“Can you imagine how many people in Aruba have their own private archaeological collection”, says MAA-archaeologist Raymundo Dijkhoff that hates the fact that the authorities do not do anything against this.   “Even though the Malta-treaty can offer protection, and that the Netherlands has ratified it, there is still no good legislation to act against these practices.”

Educational museum employee Marguerita Wever said that people do not always realize that they are damaging their cultural heritage.  “They often leave initials behind or they use the old bones in voodoo rituals.  The biggest chance on damage is when something is discovered on private territories, when a house is being built for example.  A lot depends on the goodwill of the owners.  The owner of the Natural Bridge and surroundings was involved in these sailor tombs.


The name of the area where the bones were found, Boc’i Brik, was soon an indication of the origin.  All the stories about the name turned out to have one thing in common: an extremely powerful hurricane on October 17th, 1886 that caused a ship of the type schooner-brik to wreck offshore; hence the name Boc’i Brik.  There was just one survival, all the others drowned and washed ashore near Puente.

The research-team rediscovered the journal of a local official from that time, David C. Gaërste, which stated that the huge incident took place at the north-coast of this island, where the North-German Schooner brik Hero that left from Maracaibo with destination Europe, was totally lost.  Only the steersman (…) was rescued.

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    62 Responses to “Aruba: Skeleton Found by Tourists was Remains of Shipwrecked Sailor from 1886 … That was Fast”

    1. 10061906 on October 20th, 2007 11:38 am

      Amazing Aruba!!!. Simply frigg’n amazing.
      Ok Aruba now where is Natalee???????
      Are you sure it wasn’t a donkey bone?
      Just wait until November……….We have something planned for you.

    2. 10061906 on October 20th, 2007 11:53 am

      Geoff was arrested on two charges.
      One the possible involvement in Natalee Holloway’s disappearance .
      Two: Drug Charges.
      How come they say what they will do to search for drugs but the van Cromvoirt home was also off limits to any search. Even though there were drug charges warranting a search. Apparently no search so no evidence was found therefore the charges were dropped. That is not a logical premise.

      Also I am still interested in just who is AB and why he was questioned at the same time as Geoff?
      Is that Andre or A Bikker, or ????

    3. 10061906 on October 20th, 2007 12:26 pm

      I did not realize it at the time but Geoff’s father was also questioned. Interesting now if we could only find out why.
      How about ;;; Willem; if this story breaks you better get those hidden cameras out of the guests’ rooms. We don’t want tourist to realize we have been video taping them now do we???”

    4. 10061906 on October 20th, 2007 12:36 pm

      Also from Amigoe, “The families Van Cromvoirt and Van der Sloot not friends’.
      No but Sloots know the van der Straaten’s and the van der Straaten’s know the van Cromvoirts.
      Me thinks everyone doth protest too much!!!!!!

      Isn’t May 29th Geoff’s birthday???
      I know I’m beating a dead horse or am I ?

    5. 10061906 on October 20th, 2007 12:37 pm

      Who ever was into the ritual killing of Natalee should check

    6. 10061906 on October 20th, 2007 12:39 pm

      I’m sorry I forgot to highlight this;;;
      “Both of them, according to colleagues, apparently were always talking about how they ‘had fun’ with female tourists who they met on the beach. They even said they liked to lie and say that they were police so that they could do illegal things.”

    7. Richard on October 20th, 2007 12:40 pm

      Again, 1006, with all this info about possible leads and accomplices that keep dropping out of sight … don’t you think something more is involved than three punk kids and one failed wannabe judge?

      Something is being “protected” which, if known, would destroy Aruba forevermore.

      As for the bones on the beach … hey, how many shipwrecked sailors are on the bottom of the Caribbean? How convenient that one should come to shore all of a sudden. Convenient for Aruba.

    8. brie on October 20th, 2007 1:02 pm

      Next it be, “Come to Aruba and search for hidden treasures”

    9. Carpe Noctem on October 20th, 2007 1:12 pm

      Richard & 1006…

      About the ritual killing scenario.

      My question is:

      Why would they specifically
      target a US tourist for that? Why not
      tag somebody who lives there? Ya know what
      I mean? they were taking a real gamble snagging
      an American for that.

      It seems to me they had to know that
      the media would rip them to shreds.
      That’s risky. If there’s one thing
      mob gangstas do not like, it would
      be police attention. -j4n

    10. Carpe Noctem on October 20th, 2007 1:21 pm

      About the skeletal remains. They need to wire
      all the bones together, and hang it up for
      Halloween decorations at the gang-raping,
      innocent teenage girl slaughtering
      Vandersloot house @ 19 Montanja.

      Trick or treat B?

      If we’re talking about the VDS
      family,I’m stickin’ with ‘TRICK!’

      Paulus is a sock tucker.

    11. 10061906 on October 20th, 2007 1:35 pm

      Of Course Richard.
      How about Drugging and Raping tourist?
      Filming the transgressions and selling the tapes.
      Skimming the casinos at the Black Jack tables.
      Hidden cameras in the hotel rooms and broadcasting the videos to a sex game room?
      VCB has that capability.
      Local bars and restaurants involved with drugging patrons.
      A drug sellers’ paradise.
      Abducting and sex slave trade? Possibly.
      The OTO would have something in common with Scientology and I believe the Freewinds was in Aruba and sailed the next day when Natalee disappeared.
      Could it be that Natalee somehow got thrown into all of these scenarios?
      Oh and let’s not forget a corrupt government and judicial system.

      Here. Everyone can speculate all they want..

    12. 10061906 on October 20th, 2007 1:47 pm

      All you who post here remember what tomorrow is.

    13. benh on October 20th, 2007 2:00 pm

      Aruba is doing such a great job of destroying its tourist economy,a boycott is almost not needed.They need to give up the people who raped and murdered Natalee,For get this Bill Oreilly bull of it was an accident and they just buried the body because they were scared.Did you notice that Oreilly went from a credible Aruban source to a FBI source when beth was on his show recently.

    14. Vicki on October 20th, 2007 2:54 pm

      #11- 1906, I think that what you say is true..I think something bad happened and all that you posted was going on….how sad. and I too cant wait till November….

    15. Maggie on October 20th, 2007 3:17 pm

      Excellent job Carpe with that video and very sad.

    16. Maggie on October 20th, 2007 3:18 pm

      I was thinking the report on these bones would be it was petrified chocolate.

    17. 10061906 on October 20th, 2007 3:50 pm

      Carpe and Richard:
      Carpe my feelings exactly. I did not suggest a ritual killing. I merely expounded on it for possibility.
      I could say she was kidnapped for the sex trade but to me would fall into the same argument from Carpe for ritual killings.
      “No body no case.” IMHO Natelee is dead unfortunately and van der Straaten has seen the evidence and Van der Sloot was instrumental in having someone make Natalee’s body disappear.
      IMO Rene van Heyningen.
      Remember 10211986 that is tomorrow.
      and Aruba will get its’ dues 11172007.

    18. Scio on October 20th, 2007 5:30 pm

      What is story behind the bones?

      Whose flesh once filled these broken bones?
      Whose spirit did they once carry?
      Whose hopes and dreams of future stolen,
      Whose freedom robbed, whose voice snuffed into silence -
      Did these bones witness being stripped away?

      Whose cries for freedom do they carry?
      Whose sorrow victimized through scandelous deceit?
      Where does the skeletal closet open?
      At whose doorway doth these bones arise and speak?

      Knock, knock.
      Have these bones ever been held hostage at 19 Montanja?

      Were these bones the remnants of human trafficking or human smuggling, or one more victim in a line of twenty one times before?

      Why not send the bones to independent forensic institute that doesn’t have self-promoting lies-interests to keep up along the false sense of “safe and happy”?
      On another note:

      Your United States Department of Justice in Action…

      Guess how long prison term can be just for MAIL FRAUD?

      Taken from the United States Dept. Of Justice weblink:

      The third case unsealed today involved David Villongco, 51, of San Mateo, Calif., who pleaded guilty on March 16, 2007, in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia to conspiracy to defraud the government with respect to claims and mail fraud. Villongco, through his company PBJ Venture International Corporation, acted as a purported exporter in approximately $20 million worth of fraudulent loan transactions, falsified documents sent to United States banks and to the Ex-Im Bank, and misappropriated approximately $16 million in loan proceeds that were guaranteed by the Ex-Im Bank. Villongco faces a maximum sentence of 40 years in prison.

    19. brie on October 20th, 2007 6:57 pm

      The bones are a farce…a tourist actually doug that far down to make a discovery..I don’t believe it!!!

    20. Carpe Noctem on October 20th, 2007 7:55 pm

      Maybe they’re Anita’s bones… has anybody heard

      from that methane gas trap lately?


      FOR SHAMMMME on you b1tc*

      You should be hung up with your underwear hooked

      on a wedgie nail, You f’n Dutch lying scudder

      bucket. -j4n

    21. Carpe Noctem on October 20th, 2007 7:59 pm
    22. Carpe Noctem on October 20th, 2007 8:32 pm


      Neeter Buggy in da houssssse!

      Look out..

    23. Allan K on October 20th, 2007 9:27 pm

      Dompig and Booti first spotted the hand stuck out of the ground. It was said the sailor was drunk went swimming and suicidal drowning.

      The only good connections the police have in Aruba is with the drug cartel and Posner’s mafia. They must also like getting over on American tourists, because it seems not a one can tell the damn truth.
      Damn crooked cops and some perverted Dutch, Aruba’s, low life with not a decent(moral) bone in their body. That was the good people I am not going to talk about the bad ones. They will murder you and have no remorse.

    24. waterboy (Jerry) on October 20th, 2007 10:46 pm

      When they found the bones, they knew in an instant that it was the bones of a German. How did they know?


    25. Miss-Underestimated on October 20th, 2007 10:56 pm

      This is just another back patting event. Aruba wants ppl to think that they are right on top of things.

      Boycott Aruba

    26. Patti on October 20th, 2007 11:07 pm

      Oh, but how much nicer it must be to have a blonde haired, blue eyed angel’s virginity pave your way into the golden years of manhood, machismo. Sure, a local Columbian or Venezuelan would have been fine, and has sufficed in the past; but an American Beauty would be SOOOO much better.



      Wonderful post. Let’s bring back the humanity into this art that Aruba seems to have, in identifying bones that are dug up from their blood drenched soil or belched up from the sea, as meerly old artifacts. I believe it took an astounding two days to determined that the bone that had washed ashore during their storm this summer, was that of an ancient Indian… Amazing! And, now this?

      And we really don’t know the circumstances of that person’s life and death. Where they walked, the things they loved and whether they, too, were held in a cage at the Sloot compound.

      How could we NOT suspect that Natalee died in a ritual as we examine the picture of her mutilated body in the bushes while a stranger is painting over her blood? Missing an arm, while others are missing their legs and perhaps more were missing their heads. What the Chicago Videos portray is a massacre… a pointless, bloody massacre.



      It will be interesting to see what kind of remains Tim finds in Aruba should they decide to dig around a little. I think alot of us forgot how much opposition he met from the Government; headed mostly by Nelson Oduber, himself, about digging… anywhere… not only the landfill.

      Perhaps there truly is something that the Arawak Nation of Aruba, is hiding buried treasure, like an ancient secret; that will, indeed, “Shock the World”.

      I think Beth knows the secret, perhaps the Dutch have already been in contact with her and it is only a matter of time that the mystery will be revealed and ALL those responsible shall be held accountable for their actions. In my opinion, once the story is told, Aruba, as we know it today, will be finished.

      Praying for Justice… for Natalee

    27. Patti on October 21st, 2007 12:44 am

      For Natalee:

      O Jehovah, you have searched through me, and you know me. You yourself have come to know my sitting down and my rising up. You have considered my thought from far off. My journeying and my lying outstretched you have measured off, and you have become familiar even with all my ways. For there is not a word on my tongue, But, look! O Jehovah, you already know it all. Behind and before, you have besieged me. And you place your hand upon me.

      Such knowledge is too wonderful for me. It is so high up that I cannot attain to it. Where can I go from your spirit, and where can I run away from your face? If I should ascend to heaven, there you would be; and if I should spread out my couch in She´ol, look! you would be there. Were I to take the wings of the dawn, that I might reside in the most remote sea, there, also, your own hand would lead me and your right hand would lay hold of me.

      And were I to say: “Surely darkness itself will hastily seize me!” Then night would be light about me. Even the darkness itself would not prove too dark for you, but night itself would shine just as the day does. The darkness might just as well be the light.

      For you yourself produced my kidneys. You kept me screened off in the belly of my mother. I shall laud you because in a fear-inspiring way I am wonderfully made. Your works are wonderful, as my soul is very well aware.

      My bones were not hidden from you when I was made in secret. When I was woven in the lowest parts of the earth, your eyes saw even the embryo of me. And in your book all its parts were down in writing as regards the days when they were formed; and there was not, yet, one among them.

      So, to me, how precious your thoughts are! O God, how much does the grand sum of them amount to! Were I to try to count them, they are more than even the grains of sand.

      I have awaked; and, yet, I am still with you.

      Happy Birthday, Natalee…
      Psalms 139:1-18

    28. Ray on October 21st, 2007 1:33 am

      At this point in time I would not believe anything that an aruban would say even if he had his hand on a shipload of BIBLES. I would make an exception for Jossy Mansur.

    29. Carpe Noctem on October 21st, 2007 4:55 am

      15- Maggie…

      Hey, thank you.

    30. Carpe Noctem on October 21st, 2007 5:31 am
    31. Vicki on October 21st, 2007 8:16 am

      On this day, Natalee should have been here celebrating her Birthday and life. God bless you freebird and may you be safe in his loving arms. My prayer today for you is may the ppl that made you disappear never know a minutes peace. May they encounter all of lifes troubles. In reading Beths book, Im so furious that they did this to her…I for one will boycott this volcanic ashe and dennis jacobs, vds and all of he pimps involved…there must be at least 35 ppl involved….disgusting. Im so sorry Natalee. Boycott LIERUBA until there is JUSTICE FOR NATALEE AND BETH.

    32. 10061906 on October 21st, 2007 8:56 am

      My small tribute to you Natalee on your Birthday.
      Although you were unknown to me two and one half years ago;
      I feel that I know you, as you have become a part of my life.
      You never know how or when you touch someone’s life.

      We took a trip to North Carolina and on the way we past through Petersburg, Virginia,
      one of, if not the last siege and battle of our Civil War. We did not have much time and my wife wanted to do some sight seeing. Churches have always been my wife’s interest when traveling so I suggested we visit a church. We went to the visitors’ center and they suggested the Blandford Church in Blandford Cemetery. We had no idea what a find this was going to be. Once inside we could see the roof of the church was an inverted ship hull and these immense stained glass windows.
      The windows were contracted and made by Tiffany. After the glass was made, Tiffany, in his will had all the recipes for the colors of the glass destroyed so they could never be duplicated. Each window was dedicated to the Confederate States and what was chosen to be the topic of each window, Tiffany took to his grave.
      To make a long story longer: We came upon Alabama’s window and in looking up I blurted out; “oh look the yellow hammer”. “The tour guide said oh you must be a bird watcher.” “I said no that I had no interests in watching birds nor did I really know that much about the sub topics of the Civil War. I told the tour guide that I knew that Alabama’s state bird is the yellow hammer from following what happened to Natalee Holloway on Aruba.
      We had nine more windows to look at and Natalee was now the focal point for the rest of the tour.
      Again you never know how your life is changed by being touched.
      Natalee: where ever you may be, you are not forgotten.

    33. 10061906 on October 21st, 2007 10:01 am

      By the way; I watched the Haunting Evidence Videos again…What a crock of manure.
      These so called psychics were not even good actors. All they managed to come up with was paraphrased from what was already known. All that hi tech equipment was nothing more than discarded electronic kits from Radio Shack. That episode had to be sanctioned by the AHATA.
      To all you psychics out there… I have three questions.
      What happened to Natalee?
      Who did it?
      Where is she now?
      Do you want to be a psychic hero? … answer those questions.
      None of which has been revealed.

      I have very limited psychic ability and have talked to the spirit world.
      I have witnesses that can attest to my experiences.
      I don’t have the three answers.
      Let me roll back my eyes and let me see what happened.
      Natalee was watched by closed circuit TV in her hotel room.
      Because of the color of her hair she was made to be more attractive then her companions.
      She was more of a challenge by the pimps because of her aloft attitude.
      She was privy to the gambling skimming.
      She refused a porn offer.
      She refused an old man’s offer.
      She was thrown into a game that went wrong.
      She was deserted by her friends.
      (I’m sorry if you do not agree but as a chaperone one thing that you pound into these kids is the “buddy System”) Minimum group is three. One stays with the injured person the third seeks help…PERIOD…
      She was conned into going to a party by a lying rapist predator.
      She was told that her friends were already there and afterwards the lair would take her back to “their” hotel.
      She did not know anyone there at the party as Natalee was the party.

    34. 10061906 on October 21st, 2007 11:07 am

      Sorry I kept saying Koen/Sanders’ father’s name was Wayne. I was wrong and apparently no one else knew his name and caught it.
      It is Alexander.
      Now we can search GEORGIA.

    35. brie on October 21st, 2007 12:16 pm

      Remembering Natalee and wishing she was here to celebrate her 21st birthday, opening her presents and blowing out the candles on her cake. A 21st birthday is always special to a young adult.

      It’s so sad that her family can’t watch her grow up and share her dreams for her future. We will always remember Natalee, America’s loving child.

      God, help us find her.

    36. Richard on October 21st, 2007 2:54 pm

      Natalee, today is your birthday, an extra-special day to us all. If indeed you have “gone on,” then if there is a God, a force of good (whatever that may mean), you are with that entity and are encompassed by his compassion and blessing. Of that I am certain.

      If you are alive still, as I think is possible, then may your rescue come soon, and may your captors (who doubtless have come to think that your spirit is beaten down for their purposes) face the retribution that they deserve, here and hereafter.

      Some questions up above are directed to me. I can’t answer them; I just ask that we all keep open minds and realize that theorizing from what we read on the Internet has its practical limitations.

      We can sift through the conflicting stories of J2K and others as much as we wish, trying to pick out nuggets of truth. But if we are dealing with psychopaths or manipulators, there is no reason to pick out story ‘A’ from the others and say “Aha! THIS is the one that is true!”

      I will say again, the level of deceit and evasion by Aruba convinces me that something is involved that is darker than most people suspect.

      I also say, if Paulus van der Scum has such power on Aruba, why is it that he failed to get the judgeship that he wanted? (Set aside the matter of WHY he didn’t get it; we don’t know why not.)

      I may well be wrong. But we know that human trafficking is prevalent on the Latin American continent; that it is tied in with the drug trade; that Aruba is a center for money laundering (casinos, anyone?) and other crimes.

      And that Aruba is within sight of Venezuela.

      He who has ears to hear, let him hear.

    37. Richard on October 21st, 2007 2:58 pm

      And yes, it is absolutely essential that the water search be conducted and be done thoroughly, whatever the results will be.

      Any CERTAIN info on when this will take place?

      And let this be another nail in the coffin for Aruba’s tourist industry … that American volunteers will be doing what SHOULD be the MORAL AND LEGAL OBLIGATION OF ARUBA AND THE NETHERLANDS.

      So much for our “allies”….

    38. 10061906 on October 21st, 2007 3:02 pm

      I have not purchased the book.
      Let’s see if we can put names to those thirty five you mentioned. Not the coverup but those directly involved with her demise and disappearance.

    39. Patti on October 21st, 2007 3:34 pm


      Surely, a person doesn’t have to be a psychic to comprehend what he sees in pictures, nor to read what is written in a news story.

      There were people that laughed when I said that Natalee was killed by one with a hand fetish. In fact, if any of you were around over a year ago, I said that the cutting off of the hand was for the purpose of torturing future victims.

      Again, let’s read what the scientists have said in regards to this discovery:

      Quote from Above:


      The museum says that this conclusion must clear up all speculations that went around after the bones were discovered. Thanks to good arrangements with the police, the archaeologists were there fast. Due to their forensic knowledge network, archaeologists are always called when bones are found in Aruba. They couldn’t beat the desecrators


      of graves though. The scull and jaw were missing and some of the bones were not right qua ‘anatomic context’


      The archaeologists do not think that only nature was to be blamed for this. Despite the big cultural-historic value, it seems that people have opened the tomb.


      It now appears that these people {ARUBANS} also knew that there were more persons on board of the Hero that were buried here after they were washed ashore. All the tombstones were removed and sold.


      “Can you imagine how many people in Aruba have their own private archaeological collection”, says MAA-archaeologist Raymundo Dijkhoff that hates the fact that the authorities do not do anything against this. “Even though the Malta-treaty can offer protection, and that the Netherlands has ratified it, there is still no good legislation to act against these practices.”

      Educational museum employee Marguerita Wever said that people do not always realize that they are damaging their cultural heritage. “They often leave initials behind or they use the old bones in voodoo rituals.



      The biggest chance on damage is when something is discovered on private territories, when a house is being built for example. A lot depends on the goodwill of the owners. The owner of the Natural Bridge and surroundings was involved in these sailor tombs.


      Slowly, but surely, the truth of Aruba is being revealed. With the eyes of the world upon this small nation, there is no doubt that there will be more and more discoveries of bones, headless bodies and the intertwining of voodoo practices among many of their societal customs.

      The dissection of information or the wisdom to actually SEE what you’re looking at is not being psychic, nor is it difficult.

      Justice for Natalee

    40. Patti on October 21st, 2007 3:44 pm


      If a tourist HAS to go to Aruba, let’s hope that more of them walk around with poking sticks. Knowing the condition of the soil in Aruba, these are all shallow graves, easily detected.


      An Arawak Nation built upon the bones of many.



    41. Richard on October 21st, 2007 4:04 pm

      We all have our ideas on what the answers may be in the Natalee Holloway saga. But however we agree and/or disagree, surely the events of the last two and a half years justify one conclusion:

      Boycott Aruba. As if your life depended on it.

      Spreading that message is probably the single most practical step that we can attempt today.

    42. brie on October 21st, 2007 4:08 pm

      A fisherman’s cage was stolen when Natalee disappeared, was is used to bury her at sea, or was it meant to be another obstacle in screwing up the so-called investigation…..first they said there were no boats out and now we find out otherwise. A boat could of gone out but took Natalee to Lorenzo’s. From there he used his fast cigar boat and headed for Venezuela. Just a thought!

      Or, was she put in the fisherman’s cage and taken out to sea and weighted down to the depths of international waters. They figured no one had the equipment to find her.

    43. Richard on October 21st, 2007 4:20 pm

      We also have to acknowledge that it is possible that the loss or theft of this cage might not be related to Natalee.

      My memory may well be wrong here, but I think that there were dozens of cages, or more, in the hut. I don’t recall the circumstances of the loss of the cage, but I wouldn’t be astonished if one had been lost or misplaced somewhere.

      Or, of course, as Brie says, if this reported loss or theft were a ‘red herring’ used as part of a story to steer everyone in a certain direction … a direction that is wrong.

      Or, of course, I could be misled!

    44. Patti on October 21st, 2007 5:05 pm


      The cage that was stolen from the fisherman’s hut was reported early in the morning, long before the reports went out about Natalee missing. In addition, there was a white truck that was seen by an eyewitness. Around the same time, another white truck seen on the beach near the Marriott with three men lifting the body of a woman into the truck bed was also reported.

      We know that GVC owned a Mitsibishi similar to the one that was seen at the fisherman’s huts while Guido owns a white truck similar to the one seen at the Marriott. We also know that the phone calls made to the Kalpoes and to Paulus were made from that location at or around the same time that these things were witnessed.

      I know there are red herrings in this case, but I don’t believe that this is one of them. If anything it ties all those things that were a mystery to us together and explains why Paulus was in that area around 4am.


      Today is Nat’s Birthday!

      This is a scripture that was dedicated to me by a very good friend, when I was a child. Over the years it has always been one that is dear to me and brings me hope in times of anguish.

      And, knowing that Natalee is a spiritual person, I dedicate it to her… Jehovah’s love is eternal, to it, there is no end.


      Anyone dwelling in the secret place of the Most High will procure himself lodging under the very shadow of the Almighty One.

      I will say to Jehovah: “[You are] my refuge and my stronghold, My God, in whom I will trust.”

      For he himself will deliver you from the trap of the birdcatcher, from the pestilence causing adversities.

      With his pinions he will block approach to you,
      And under his wings you will take refuge.
      His trueness will be a large shield and bulwark.

      You will not be afraid of anything dreadful by night, nor of the arrow that flies by day, nor of the pestilence that walks in the gloom, nor of the destruction that despoils at midday.

      A thousand will fall at your very side and ten thousand at your right hand; to you it will not come near.

      Only with your eyes will you look on and see the retribution itself of the wicked ones. Because you [said]: “Jehovah is my refuge,” You have made the Most High himself your dwelling;

      No calamity will befall you, And not even a plague will draw near to your tent.

      For he will give his own angels a command concerning you, To guard you in all your ways.

      Upon their hands they will carry you, That you may not strike your foot against any stone.

      Upon the young lion and the cobra you will tread;
      You will trample down the maned young lion and the big snake.

      Because on me he has set his affection, I shall also provide him with escape. I shall protect him because he has come to know my name.

      He will call upon me, and I shall answer him. I shall be with him in distress. I shall rescue him and glorify him.

      With length of days I shall satisfy him, And I shall cause him to see salvation by me.

      Psalms 91

    45. Carpe Noctem on October 21st, 2007 5:22 pm

      helloooo COME IN ORSON!!!!!


    46. Patti on October 21st, 2007 6:38 pm

      Waterboy Jerry:

      I wouldn’t put too much credence in their evaluation of the remains found in the tomb. For one thing, it is extremely difficult, if not impossible to determine a person’s race without a skull. And then to date a corpse based on the loss of density of bone takes months of comparitive work… and in this case it doesn’t sound like there are many bones with which to do such studies.

      Except for the findings of the condition of the corpse, alot of this is merely more spin out of Aruba. If they were in the least bit concerned about the archaelogical value of corpes or the historical value of ancient burial grounds, there would be people digging there constantly. I’m sure they have an expert to examine bones as they surface, which seems to be quite regularly, and his name is Victor Aun de Take.

      Unfortunately, I think this will be a case of:

      Make your evaluation,

      publish it and

      destroy the evidence.



    47. brie on October 21st, 2007 6:39 pm

      Hey Carpe, love your stuff! We get alot of humor, we get directly to the point and we keep Natalee alive in our heats…you make all of that happen…keep up the love for Natalee…!!!!

    48. Miss-Underestimated on October 21st, 2007 6:41 pm

      Happy Birthday Natalee

      You have touched so many lives.

      May the Lord shelter you always

    49. Carpe Noctem on October 21st, 2007 6:42 pm

      For Nat, her family,
      and friends:

      We’re with you in this,
      until the last battle

      Justice for Natalee.

    50. brie on October 21st, 2007 6:51 pm

      And Carpe…we appreciate your hard work and dedication…

      And Richard…your dedication to keeping our minds open to other avenues….

      And to all the posters, Beth has given us a very special Thank You for keeping the case alive and who knows, as she said, “Maybe someone will come up with the answer, a word, a clue, everything helps!

    51. brie on October 21st, 2007 7:17 pm

      Happy Birthday to Natalee…wherever you are. We love you!

      And we hate the people that wouldn’t allow you to come home!

      But we’re here and we’re not giving up….

      Different religions and faith are all blessing you today..and tomorrow.

    52. Patti on October 21st, 2007 7:55 pm

      Richard asked that I post this information for him. He is currently using a computer that does not allow him to do the cutting and pasting needed to share this article with you.


      12 Bulgarians Arrested in Spain for Participation in Intl Crime Group

      12 October 2007, Friday

      Twelve Bulgarians have been arrested in Madrid, Spain, for their participation in an international organized crime group, dealing with forging credit cards, Darik News reported, citing officials from the Spanish National Police.

      The forgers copied the information from the magnetic strip of credit cards of people from the Caribbean islands and Europe and them went to Spain to drain the bank accounts from ATMs.

      The organized crime group has a number of “operating cells” around the globe and every blow brought them between EUR 400,000 and EUR 600,000, which means the group made a total of EUR 5 M.

      The Spanish police started surveillance of the Bulgarian cell several months ago, when the special unit for fight against organized crime noticed that a group of one and the same people very often travelled from Germany, Spain and Bulgaria to the Caribbean Islands of Barbados and Aruba, the Seychelles, the Maldives, the Virginia Islands, etc.

      After several arrests the group moved their crime activities in Portugal. A month later the leaders of the cells around the world gathered in Lisbon to discuss their activities, and this is when the Spanish and the Portugal police hit and made the arrests.


      Boycott Aruba!

    53. Patti on October 21st, 2007 8:04 pm


      Richard’s comment in that classic style:

      Another nail in the coffin

      for the ‘one safe, happy island.’



    54. 10061906 on October 21st, 2007 8:44 pm

      Along the lines of 52:
      Isn’t it convenient when we check into a hotel or motel?
      We sign a little form, give them our credit card for payment and they in turn issue us a nice keyless entry credit card. Here is the catch. When you check out of any of those establishments where you receive a keyless entry card; do not turn it in when you check out.
      That plastic card now contains your credit card number, name and address. That information remains on that card until the next person signs in and uses it. Then your info is erased and a new customer’s info is recorded.
      In the wrong hands obviously your information could be used with devastating results.

    55. Carpe Noctem on October 22nd, 2007 7:08 am


      thank you.

    56. yoyo muffintop on October 22nd, 2007 12:34 pm

      #54 – urban legend. Not true.

      Always interesting how rumors create a life of their own then becomes fact.
      Like a bad Three’s Company episode.

    57. sharon on October 22nd, 2007 2:05 pm

      #56 yoyo

      As much as I hate to disagree with you :-) you are wrong.

      And ‘snopes’ is vague.

      I’ve been working with ‘encoded’ key cards for hotels and cruise ships — well, since they came out with them.

      I advise everyone to discard their ‘key’ rather than turn it back in. The hospitality establishments expect it — that’s why they use such cheap plastic.

      The mag stripe has several ‘tracks’ and different information can be ENCRYPTED onto each track.

      Encrypted. But it is there.

      Like a bad Three’s Company episode

    58. Patti on October 23rd, 2007 1:08 am


      From missing bones to missing key cards.


      Not the place to be…

      Especially if you’re a virgin.


      Hey ARUBA!

      Got any Festivals going on this month?

      Come on… Let’s hear those Drums…

      Can’t an Indian dance and have some fun

      Without some B teling us where to go?

      Light the fires so we can see….

      All the bones that we have eaten clean.


      Boycott Aruba!!!!

    59. Patti on October 23rd, 2007 1:13 am

      By the way… the word FETISH according to the

      American Heritage Dictionary:




      Aruba… You need all the protection you can get!

    60. Patti on October 23rd, 2007 11:39 pm

      One cannot determine the race of a corpse…


      What kind of people get buried without
      their head, arms, legs, fingers and toes?

      Victims of the Arawak Nation.


      As Forrest Gump would say:

      “It’s a Whole Nother Country…


      Boycott Aruba!

    61. More Human Bones Found in Aruba in Ocober? … “One Boney Island” | Scared Monkeys on October 27th, 2007 2:11 pm

      [...] First it a skeleton found by tourists, now there appears to have been even more bones found in Aruba. According to this poster, a human forearm bone was found in Aruba and confirmed by the ALE. This seems to be a common occurance these days in Aruba. Who needs to comb the shores for sea shells when you can look for human bones instead. I guess the ATA and AHATA may want to add that to their travel broshures as things to do while in Aruba. There is some thing that I want to find washing up on shore while on vacation. [...]

    62. mainemonkey on October 30th, 2007 10:18 pm

      I was disgusted to learn that Tyra Banks show gave away to a whole viewer audience an all expense paid vacation to stay at the Marriot Aruba———–they are hard up for more victims! Boycott Aruba!

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