Natalee Holloway Missing: Aruban Investigators and Spin Machine Still Dancing Around the Truth … Aruban Can’t Can’t, Part Deux


After all this time has gone by in the case of missing Natalee Holloway in Aruba; the government,  the investigators and the Spin-Meisters continue to dance.


(Click on picture above for the Aruban Can’t Can’t)

One thing is for certain, if one can spin, one can dance .. these guys are great at both.








Aruba Can’t Cant, Part 1

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  • Comments

    50 Responses to “Natalee Holloway Missing: Aruban Investigators and Spin Machine Still Dancing Around the Truth … Aruban Can’t Can’t, Part Deux”

    1. Patti on September 22nd, 2007 1:27 am

      Thanks, Klaas!


      Come on “Little Birdies”

      Sing Us a Song!

      Tickle our Ears,

      While We Admire Your Thong!


      Come on, Aruba!

      Give Us a Chance…

      We’re Roasting Lion…

      and We’re Dyin’ to Dance!


      Stoke Up those Fires!

      and Pound on those Drums!

      We’ll Laugh in Your Face…

      When its Over and Done!


      Boycott Aruba!

    2. Carpe Noctem on September 22nd, 2007 1:57 am

      May be Joran’s fat ass Sherman Tank of

      a mother will model a thong for us, Patti…

      It’d look like Dumbo got intertwined

      in a hammock! LOL


    3. Tazman on September 22nd, 2007 2:31 am


    4. Richard on September 22nd, 2007 5:29 am

      The “dance” that Aruba is performing (hope this metaphor isn’t too repugnant) is the swirl of … items … in the toilet bowl as one flushes.

      At least the island is moving towards its proper destiny. What a place for it to spend eternity … and all to protect how many?

    5. Patti on September 22nd, 2007 8:14 am

      What is a roast without a few:

      !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FAVORITE MOMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Okay…. I’ll go first:

      You know it’s a hard choice to make…

      They’ve all had their moments….

      But, I choose NELSON!!!!!!!!!


      He’s so Hollywood ‘n All….

      I mean look at that SMILE!!!


      My favorite moment with Nelson was when he made
      his speech about a pending strike by the one and
      only bakery in Aruba….

      It was a real gas when he said that the bakery couldn’t sell the bread to make a profit….

      He ended his speech in that HOLLYWOOD style that
      we’ve come to love…

      He said:



      (Ohhhh Nooooooo)



      Shaaaa BANG***



      (Laughter and Applause)


      Boycott Aruba

    6. sharon on September 22nd, 2007 8:19 am

      Good morning FP posters.

      A few Monkeys have been able to get Beth’s book a few days early and there are ‘snippets’ being posted inside.

      Come in and read — you WON’T be disappointed. The comments are in the main Natalee HOlloway thread.


      KJ Theory – Early July

      “Yes,” she says. “It was sex gone wrong.” He asks her who she believes is involved. The Prosecuter says, “Definately Joran, and at least one of the Kalpoe brothers.”

    7. 10061906 on September 22nd, 2007 8:45 am

      My personnal opinion is I don’t believe there is anyone living that knows where Natalee’s remains are located. There are multitudes of people that know what happened.
      There are multitudes involved in the cover up. I believe two people contacted Rene to dispose of Natalee. “We don’t care where or how; we don’t want to know”.
      After Rene does what he was paid to do: he is then murdered. The end of the paper trail.
      I also believe “Pitbull” was a warning to anyone attempting to tell what happened.
      I also believe there were a total of four murders attributed to this case.
      Rene, Pitbull, Benson and Father Montoya.

      “One safe and happy island”?????

    8. Carpe Noctem on September 22nd, 2007 9:27 am

      Loving Natalee Holloway – Missing In Aruba

      Episode #18 “A Sea Voyage”

    9. disgustedmom on September 22nd, 2007 9:46 am

      Klass? Are we getting a bit bored? LOL

    10. Warlock77 on September 22nd, 2007 10:34 am

      Cute pics, lol, what about putting Rudy in a Gay Pride Parade pic?

    11. DutchNutBuster on September 22nd, 2007 11:07 am

      Joran will get his!Boycott Aruba!

    12. 10061906 on September 22nd, 2007 11:21 am

      8 carpe:
      thank you for the link (s).
      Do you know anyway to save the videos or is a frame capture board required?

    13. Patti on September 22nd, 2007 12:05 pm


      I agree with you and I believe there’ll be justice for Natalee. But, I will always feel fear at the, mere, mention of Aruba and worry that this tragedy might be forgotten. All that corruption on one little island makes for dangerous territory, no matter who you are; man, woman or child.

      I hope Tim finds SOMETHING…


    14. Carpe Noctem on September 22nd, 2007 12:33 pm


      Yes 1006…

      Here is what I’ve
      been using.

      web based

      go there and paste the vid link into
      the box and DL it.

      The only thing extra you *may need is a .flv
      flash vid player to be able to watch it.

      You can find that as a freebie… is a good place to
      search for the player.

      FLV Player

    15. Carpe Noctem on September 22nd, 2007 12:41 pm


      Here’s one of Rudy,

      at the after party!

    16. Maggie on September 22nd, 2007 5:36 pm

      Steve Cohen being a fellow American, everytime I see his face , he makes me sick. The nightmare he put this family through with all of his big lies and stories while lining his pockets. How he sleeps at night I don’t know. This must be the “Stuck on Stupid” dance

    17. Bob on September 22nd, 2007 9:05 pm

      Any further developments with the Equi-search ship who was going to conduct an offshore search? Been away and maybe missed the update. Thanks!

    18. brie on September 22nd, 2007 11:10 pm

      #17…Bob, the last I’ve heard is that the search is scheduled for the later part of October and Tim Miller will be conducting the search. He has got special equipment designed to go to the depths of the sea…he believes Natalee is 800 to 1000 feet deep and 2 to 3 miles out.

    19. Bob on September 23rd, 2007 8:05 am

      #18-brie, thank you for the update. I thought it hadn’t happened yet as there was no chatter here on the message boards. As to the Aruba Tourism ‘show’ coming in October at the Taj Mahal Casino in NJ, we have a “special welcome” being planned. :~))

    20. 10061906 on September 23rd, 2007 5:43 pm

      With all due respect to Mr. Miller, I don’t believe he will be successful for two reasons.
      His search will encompass approximately 10,000 cubic miles.
      Second; I don’t believe she was ever removed from the island.
      I have a friend who dove with Tim; his heart is in the right place; but his task is too overwhelming.
      Why do I say she is on Aruba. Taking a body out to sea requires a boat. Joaran does not own one. That means that others had to be involved and are expected to remain silent.
      Having someone creamated would be easier.
      Easier still; to pay someone to remove Natalee and then dispose of that person.
      Everyone can truely say when asked; “I don’t know what happened or where she is. End of paper trail.

      Everyone has/had a piece of the puzzle; that piece is dead.

    21. Maggie on September 23rd, 2007 7:59 pm

      Off this topic, but thought I would bring it up.
      For all those “TRUE” posters who have come here pretending and making comments about no African American missing people getting air time. I’ve noticed every story about an African American missing on here, not one has every bothered to leave a comment of concern. Just shows how phoney they are..

      For instance. 2 comments on that subject. Not one comment by those soooo concerned.

      28 year old Nailah Franklin has been missing since September 18, 2007. Her car was just located approximately 27 miles away in Hammond, IN. Also, items were taken from her apartment. Her business and personal lap top were missing. Police are looking at the possibility that some one who was making threats could have been involved.

    22. richard on September 24th, 2007 9:33 am

      The horror of having a missing person in one’s family knows no limitations on age, sex, race, creed or anything else. It can happen in a moment … and seems to be happening more and more … and leaves in its wake a lifetime of suffering, agony and wonder.

      But in few cases is a foreign government apparently engaged in a cover-up to protect certain individuals. That is one reason that Natalee’s case (as that of Amy Bradley) merits continued coverage.

      But I hope our concern extends to all.

    23. 10061906 on September 24th, 2007 12:31 pm

      From Joran’s book……………

      Joran talks about surveillance tape from Monday May 30th, where Natalee is seen fighting with a boy in the jewelry shop at the Wyndham Hotel

      And the HI tape that shows a girl in the same outfit as Natalee. Dave said it could be Natalee. Beth just said: “No that ain’t Natalee. Natalee doesn’t have breasts and has a larger nose.” Julia Jenfro was present at that time.

      Shows A girl in the same outfit?????? How do we know it was not Natalee’s top?
      It was rather unique color and design which I don’t believe could be found in Aruba stores.

      Why wasn’t a follow up performed. It just may have been Natalee’s clothes that girl was wearing. Who was she?
      SM: Joran’s book is full of Renfro lies is why (klaasend)

    24. 10061906 on September 24th, 2007 12:46 pm

      Klaasend: Was that Dave’s quote, Beth’s quote or Julia’s quote about the girl wearing an outfit like Natalee’s.
      And if in fact it was a lie; what in your opinion would that lie support?
      SM: The only one I’ve seen say that, besides Joran in his book is Julia Renfro. Renfro has lied numerous times and continues to do so. If I recall correctly, after first saying that girl was wearing the “exact outfit”, Renfro changed it to a “similar top”. The lie is meant to make people believe that Natalee ran away. (klaasend)

    25. richard on September 24th, 2007 1:31 pm

      Even Dave Holloway told us that there were lots of girls on Aruba who resembled Natalee. It’s not hard to imagine that some might be wearing similar clothes.

    26. waterboy (Jerry) on September 24th, 2007 1:55 pm

      10061906 your post #7

      What about the two security guards that “jumped” to their deaths off one of the hotels? And, what about the Wever lady? You don’t’ think they are related to the case?


    27. 10061906 on September 24th, 2007 5:04 pm

      No to the guards: I don’t recall the details.
      If you mean…
      No also.

    28. 10061906 on September 24th, 2007 5:09 pm

      What I thought was strange was Pitbull got an obituary. Father Montoya got an obituary.
      Robert Wayne Benson got an obituraty.
      Even the police officer that died of meningitis got an obituary and a video tape of the funeral procession.
      But not Rene… nothing. Just a write up in the newspaper. I don’t even believe it was mentioned where he was buried.

    29. 10061906 on September 24th, 2007 5:29 pm

      Boy that page disappeared fast.
      I wonder who all is watch these posts.

    30. Maggie on September 24th, 2007 6:20 pm

      Richard I was mostly talking about the so called Aruban posters, and the ones from the USA who have purposely came on Natalee’s thread to complain that African Americans don’t get any publicity, and upset about the publicity Natalee’s case has. None of them ever appear on the missing African Americans stories featured here to show any sympathy. That’s why they are so phoney. It’s just a way to try to detract from Natalee’s story.

      Natalee’s story will never go away for Aruba. They can’t portray their island as one big happy place with no crime, and luring young people to a club, where their own police has told Dave, watch your drink, they might drug you there. Why isn’t that included on their brochures? They don’t tell you on those brochures that they will hire paid liars to go out and do anything they can to smear you with lies and repeatedly taunt and slander the victims. Put that on the brochure. They don’t tell you that the police purposely turned a blind eye the first 10 days on the last known suspects with the victim, even though it was obvious they had lied and lied, while pursuing 2 guards who didn’t even work at the Holiday Inn or match the clothing worn and had alibis. Put that on the brochure. They also don’t tell you there is newspaper people who go out and spread lies about a victims family and a paying tourist. They also don’t tell you on the brochure, they have underage guys lurking and stalking in the casinos and bars underage with a mantra of I’ve done this 20 times before, who’s father was studying to be a judge, work for the govt. and is a lawyer now. Just from the father’s behaviour alone, he should be disbarred. Nope, he’s working in his son’s lawyer’s office. And what about that meeting between Carlos and KJ, that is against the law?

      JQK said not long ago Aruban prosecutor told him that same day, the KLPD are working on the forensics in Holland while a few remain in Aruba working. What kind of forensics do the KLPD have that takes over 2 months to investigate? I fear, just another run around to the family from the Aruban Prosecutor. IMO Joran is an accident waiting to happen.. His personality type never stay out of trouble long, but Paulus being in the government like he has, I think he’s saved his son’s butt more than once. They are 2 of a kind.

      My belief has always been Natalee was taken out to sea and my other belief is possibly cremated. Paulus was so sure of himself when he said if they have no body, they have no case within a day or so of Natalee’s disappearance.

    31. waterboy (Jerry) on September 24th, 2007 6:56 pm

      10061906 ,

      Yes, yes, Marie Wever is exactly who I’m taling about.


    32. waterboy (Jerry) on September 24th, 2007 6:56 pm


    33. mayan_moons on September 25th, 2007 12:48 am

      Is her first name Jalitza or something like that?

    34. 10061906 on September 25th, 2007 5:59 am

      Yet check out the month…
      No mention of Rene

    35. richard on September 25th, 2007 9:22 am

      Maggie (#30) … I understand, and agree with you. They’re full of crocodile tears.

      In re PvdS’s comment: “No body, no crime,” or “No body, no case,” it can of course also signify that if Natalee is held somewhere else, off Aruba, and the Aruban system can’t prove whether she is dead or captive, or can’t even prove whether she ran away (though nobody would give that idea a moment’s credence, I hope), they can’t do anything.

      Karen Janssen said publicly that PvdS was wrong, and that (given sufficient circumstantial evidence, I guess) finding a body was not absolutely required to press a case.

      But she never did.

      I still think that something darker than three punk kids and a failed wannabe judge is involved here … the actions and inactions of the Aruban government are just too much for a few bit players. So I see it, at least.

    36. Maggie on September 25th, 2007 4:27 pm

      Richard I respect your opinions, I just don’t think Natalee has been alive since the night she was taken.

      Calling Natalee a body right after she disappears, speaks volumes to me. Paulus didn’t say if they can’t find Natalee, they have no case. He said if they can’t find her body, they have no case. Also Deepak refers to her as a body, if he knew where her body is, he would tell. I seriously too believe that at least one of the Kalpoes are involved or they would be splitting, collecting the million, and talking to get out of the mess. We all know they want money. Something hanging over their head. One of them also confessed something bad happen, I figure that’s when Paulus really used his influence to get that taken care of. I also figured that was Joran’s Police Statement that Beth saw tore up on the desk. The one that is missing for him. Joran also says Deepak raped and buried her. Seriously if you had nothing to do with the reason why someone is gone, a person would tell the exact truth and cooperate, so that the answers could be found. Paulus, Joran, Deepak and Satish did everything they could to throw an investigation off and not cooperate. What innocent person does that. The Cover up that followed went on up the line.

      Was reading something about the Mccann case in Portugal. Cops were saying, according to the Mccann family, they believe the mom sedated her and she died from it (accidently) and they buried or moved her around more than once. OMG sounds like the cop out in Aruba and Dompig.

      Dompig knows, but he was shut up. When he was coming out calling this a homicide and these 3 are guilty as hell. They ok’d him to come out on 48 hours he said, and then when he presented that farce about drugs and buried twice, they wanted put out to the public, he was taken off the job. He served his purpose. Another minister of disinformation and probably well paid.

    37. mayan_moons on September 25th, 2007 6:49 pm

      Hey Maggie!

      I agree with you in thinking Natalee was killed the night she was kidnapped for all the reasons you stated above. I mean it just doesn’t make sense to kidnap & sell a girl into slavery yet refer to her as *A BODY* as much as the people on Aruba did. I mean really….WHO in the world would go on international tv saying Natalee’s body was moved several times like Dompig did if she was still alive & in slavery??

      Nope….to many people calling her a body, including our FBI telling Beth she prolly was dead.

    38. disgustedmom on September 25th, 2007 8:37 pm

      I’ve said before I think the slavery thing is possible, but my strongest opinion is that she died either that first night or within 24 hours succumbing to whatever they did to her.

      I do not, AT ALL, believe Natalee OD’ed on booze or drugs of her own doing.

    39. 10061906 on September 26th, 2007 10:45 am

      Just some thoughts to ponder>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
      Isn’t the guy in the background with the hand in the air, the same one that helped Beth that first night at the gas Station? That isn’t Gabriel Leo is it? If so what is he doing hanging out with GVC? (moles are all over the island).
      Here is our boy Geoff in the front.
      Another pix of Geoff after getting busted from VCB.
      Shortly after Natalee disappeared a girl and Geoff hooked up at C and C’s.
      Why did he tell the girl he picked up at C and C’s that he had a white pick up and was getting rid of it to by a jeep?
      While walking with the girl on the beach; what made Geoff, when he saw the VCB beach patrol, so nervous? The sighting made him so nervous that he shut up talking and immediately took the girl back to the hotel. Could someone from the Beach Patrol recognize Geoff from being on the beach that night with Natalee and basically looked in the other direction. Perhaps that BP person was the same one and Geoff did not want to get into a discussion and immediately took the girl back to the hotel?
      Why does Geoff have his photos taken in Holiday Inn rooms? Most have disappeared.
      Did his father fire him and Michael Dompig because he used his father’s business equipment to spy on girls in rooms at the HI? Willeim didn’t want his company business associated with peeping toms.
      Let’s see who have left Aruba; Joran, the Gottenbos Family, Guido Wever, Jan van Straaten, The Van Cromvorit family less Geoff’s sister. I think if the FBI, who are handling this case as a homicide; should bring in Keon and Sanders for questioning. They are now on American soil and there is no need to extradite them for questioning. If still on Aruba; as Dutch nationals, they could not be extradited to the U.S. Why did they come to Georgia and what are Keon and Sanders doing now?

      This girl Judy stayed at the Holiday Inn a week prior to Natalee. What room did she stay in and was her room number changed like Natalee’s was?
      Joran and Judy: If located I’m sure she could shed some light. This photo was taken the week before Natalee’s trip. Judy threatened to sue if her pix were not removed. She deleted her album but Joran kept this one for a souvenir.
      Notice the resemblance to Natalee and Fabienne. By the way where is Fabienne?

      Is this the same girl?
      Here with Joran.

      Here with Freddie.

      Joran and Deepak don’t share but it looks like Freddie and Joran do.

      Could the K2’s have dropped off Joran and Natalee on that side road as Deepak has stated and was met there by Geoff and others? Was Geoff’s pickup bed really a bed with a mattress? No one; and I don’t care how high on testosterone they were, would have sex on bare rocky ground or sand.
      SM: The girl in the last two links is Loco Stef – She was with Deepak, Joran, Freddy, Bailey Ann (American tourist) and her friend. There is a thread in the lounge about that encounter which was prior to Natalee going to Aruba. FYI – Bailey Ann was interviewed by the FBI. (klaasend)

    40. I Love America on September 26th, 2007 10:48 am

      I think that IF (mighty big word) IF she was sold into slavery, nobody would tell that that’s what happened to her. They’d never tell that. Saying that she’s a “body” is safer than saying she disappeared or whatever. They are going to say whatever it takes to put the light on to something or someone else. I don’t necessarily believe she was sold into slavery but it would definitely have gotten her off the island. Also…the fish trap…dropped at sea…or…used as a prison until their arrival to wherever. Someone made the comment about a blue-eyed blonde American would be a great “catch” to someone Anti-American. That is not hard to believe. It could have happened…but I sincerely hope not. Just an opinion.

    41. 10061906 on September 26th, 2007 12:45 pm

      Does anyone remember the remark about a dark young male named “G” arriving at C and C’s at the same time as the MBHS group did the night that Natalee disappeared? I believe it was stated that he tried to strike up a conversation or tried to dance with Natalee or the MBHS girls.
      Check out the tenth photo from December 2005.
      Also notice that “G” is with Michael and Andreas.
      I wonder if this is the person that was with Michael when Dave Holloway saw them trying to hustle girls at the Holiday Inn?
      Remember it was Michael Dompig’s statement that got Geoff van Cromvoirt arrested.Geoff and Michael both worked for VCB before getting fired.
      Do these guys all travel in the same circle as Joran?
      Notice that everything takes place around the HI.
      No other reports from any guests from other hotels.

      Could this “G” be another person of interest that has been flying under the radar?
      He sort of resembles the sketch from “Haunting Evidence”; more so then Deepak or Satish.

    42. mayan_moons on September 26th, 2007 4:20 pm

      Not just calling her a body but describing injuries to her head…..get real!~

    43. brie on September 26th, 2007 6:17 pm

      Unless Deepak’s statement is full of lies, Natalee hit her head and something bad happened. So where did all of this take place. !!!!! That alone tells me knows something!!!! She hit her and died.

    44. Maggie on September 26th, 2007 7:13 pm

      Not only that, but there hasn’t been one credible sighting of Natalee since the night she got in the car with those 3 *&*^^ … 1 million reward.

      These 4 worked hard to throw an entire investigation off track and still are. That alone tells me they know much more, but yes just after Natalee disappears, she becomes a body to Paulus is very telling. Not one of them went out to look for Natalee.. Wouldn’t you think the last people with her would get off their butts and go look if they had nothing to do with it? NOOOoooo they were meeting with Paulus, family, making up more stories and getting lawyers.

    45. brie on September 26th, 2007 7:28 pm

      So tell us Deepak, how did she hit her head? If you weren’t involved, how did it happen?

    46. 10061906 on September 27th, 2007 12:15 am
    47. tmac56 on September 27th, 2007 9:06 am

      Everyone should look at this. I am wondering if this is what they gave to Natalee

    48. I Love America on September 27th, 2007 9:43 am

      I remember someone making that statement 10061906. It seems like it may have been stated in Dave’s book. I believe there are multiple players under the radar…maybe not all involved but punks talk, brag, etc.

    49. 10061906 on September 27th, 2007 10:06 am

      No wonder the world is so screwed up.

      The reason some men think they can do anything to a female and get away with it is because of the way SOME of the females act and ads such as this.

      I never liked Miller to begin with………

      Misogamist breeding grounds.

    50. tod meuir on September 19th, 2008 2:46 am

      Tod Meuir
      September 19th, 2008 at 4:40 am Your comment is awaiting moderation.

      It never fails to sicken this writer that our nation…our world daily deteriorates even further due to the depths of deprivation that the liberal disease is so happy to engage in: This writer feels a fathomless sorrow and pain for the Holloway family due to all surrounding Natalee and though this writer is sure to be called every sort of name and diagnosed under some pychosis by the whack jobs in the world it is my indelible belief that Natalee is very much alive….. One does not have to possess but a mere tiny amount of intelligence to see that the apparent true lack of concern by Aruban authorities as well as Vandersloot,etc re: all of this is due to fact that not only do they know there is no Murder case but as well there will be no answers otherwise re: Natalee due to fact that there are those involved that range to highest levels of Aruban government and since White Slavery is big business for them. Aruba is but a hub for the White slave traffic…at least it was before Natalee’s mother had the guts and determination to fight for her daughter…and now due to the unwanted attention such traffic has been rerouted for time being. Why would anyone in Aruba including Vandersloot and company worry about a murder charge when they all know that somewhere within the sad hell of white slavery this beautiful girl exists: This writer has no doubt that she is alive however she is probably so very induced by drugs that she is even unaware of who she is anymore or too mentally/emotionally depleted to know or care anymore. Note* This is an extremely beautiful young American girl and within White Slavery trade girls of this caliber are quite literally worth their weight in gold and there are many of whom will pay that weight. My entire heart,soul,and prayers go out to the Holloway family and I really believe that if you keep your focus on God above and your daughter below then you will find her! People the only way to combat this sadness as a whole is to simply land blow upon blow to the economy of places like Aruba until they are dying financially from lack of tourism dollars: Never allow your daughters to travel to places like Mexico,Aruba, Venezuela,etc unless they are in full time company of youselves or other trusted/known family and friends because this crime that has happened to Natalee and her family is as well a market and it is a market that never closes. It is sad that in this once great nation the disease of liberalism has spread to where contagions such as homosexuality,pedophilia,abortion,drug use,drug dealing,etc,etc is seen as a right by so many truly useless beings and where the true right to exist in a normal world where things are God ordained and otherwise moral and correct is considered an infringement on their “rights”!

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