RSSTexas Equusearch Going back to Aruba in 3-4 Weeks with Superior Offshore International to Search for Natalee Holloway
Texas EquuSearch will be going back to Aruba to do the long awaited deep water search for Natalee Holloway with the aide of Superior Offshore International. The plans to go back to Aruba to do the deep water search for Natalee Holloway have been in the planning stages for quite some time. The planning is now going to become a reality.
Superior Offshore International is a leading provider of subsea construction and commercial diving services to the offshore oil and gas industry, serving operators in the outer continental shelf and deep waters of the U.S. Gulf of Mexico was well as offshore Mexico, Latin America, Africa and the Middle East. Construction services include installation, upgrading and decommissioning of pipelines and production infrastructure. Commercial diving services include inspection, maintenance and repair services and support services for subsea construction and salvage operations.
Superior Offshore International will also have the capability to use an ROV to go down in the ocean to incredible depths to search.
(Click on pic for more details and specs)
UPDATE I: We spoke with Louis E. Schaefer exclusively this morning, the principal stock holder of Superior Offshore International. We discussed the planning of the upcoming search for Natalee Holloway in Aruba. According to Mr. Schaefer there is still much planning and mapping that needs to occur before an exact date, time and vessel can be determined. Surveyors from Superior Offshore International are supposed to get together with individuals from the side scanner sonar team to create a navigational grid (mapping)that will be searched.
Developing …
Posted July 15, 2007 by Scared Monkeys Aruba, Missing Persons, Natalee Holloway, Search & Recovery, Texas Equusearch | 157 comments |
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Let’s all pray that this trip is productive! We’ve waited way too long for Aruba to do anything and have learned that they can’t be trusted to do the right thing. Yea Tim Miller! God bless!
Thank you God and TES..this is such wonderful news.
Breaking - Just heard on Fox News there’s new developments in the Natalee Holloway case…
Supposedly, Beth and Dave turned down a RANSOM demand???
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SM: Same BS from the Amigoe article from Renfro and Dompig (klaasend)
What wonderful news to hear this is really happening. The very best of luck to Texas Equusearch and Superior Offshore International…I know that Tim really wants to bring Natalee home, and I hope this is the answer.
dave holloway wii be on fox news today sunday.disscussing the alledged ransom demand .
Correction, Beth supposedly turned down a ransom demand…
Dave will be on Fox momentarily to clear it up
Bogus demand! Thanks klaasend
Dave said it’s “Tabloid reporting” at it’s best, but I’d said at it’s worst!! He also said the case is still active 
BOYCOTT ARUBA AND HOLLAND!!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
I’ll believe TES will do the search when I see it with my own eyes. How many times have we heard the search was going to happen, when in fact it has not. It’s not that TES doesn’t want to do the search, but Aruba keeps getting in the way
Those freaking savages are holding Natalee hostage in their waters…
BOYCOTT ARUBA AND HOLLAND!!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
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SM: I don’t think Aruba can get in the way this time. First off, it may be international waters. Second, there is no reason for the ships TES will be going in to even dock in Aruba. The ships are large and self contained. They can always refuel in Venezuela. They are going. (klaasend)
Just heard Dave tell millions of American’s that the article in Dutchs newspaper is NOT true and its absurd to even claim that!
THANK YOU DAVE!! WE’RE STILL WITH YOU DAVE & BETH!!!!!
The more the Aruban reps talk, the more they literally scream “Joran is a murderer and guilty as H*** and we covered up his guilt!!!”
The Aruban government has blamed everyone but themselves for not solving this case. Let’s see…they have blamed the news media, the FBI, the Sec. of State, the VP, etc, etc.
Aruba - don’t blame others for your government’s ineptitude in conducting an investigation or for their culpability in covering up a crime. Most especially DO NOT blame a mother who IF she had been presented with a ransom would have not only paid their demands, but would have paid with her LIFE if it meant her precious daughter would have been returned alive to her family!!!!!!
The Aruban government is responsible for their own actions and those actions are coming back to bite them squarely in the backside!!!!
Let’s pray they find her.But the boycott rolls on even if they do!!!
It is a very big ocean. I wonder if they have any solid information on just where to search.
Hey Vicki!
Great news isn’t it!! I know we’re all praying for this nightmare to be over….ijust want every Aruban Official and every Aruban living there that when they hurt Natalee…they hurt me and i’m going to fight for her & against inknowing tourists going to that evil isle of death!
Sorry about the typos……..just got my cable back & the first thing i heard was Jamie on Fox saying she was just about to speak with Dave about Natalee!
Aruban’s can’t/won’t understand WHY this case is stands out among so many…..why this matters so much to us. Its so hard to believe that these people…who after dealing with millions of visitor’s have not one iota of common sense of what they’ve done wrong from day 1 of this nightmare for Natalee. I’m not buying it, they know how to be gracious or how to PRETEND TO BE, they want to play dumb hoping we’ll go away and now resorting to lies printed in Dutch newspaper’s about Natalee’s mother.
Much to Aruban’s surprise we’re still here and it is YOU ARUBA WHO MADE THIS CASE STAND OUT AS YOU LIED OVER & OVER ON TV KNOWING SOME OF YOUR OWN RELATIVES WERE SUSPECTS.
Well, this is good news isn’t it !
Does anyone know where Joran is ? Hiding ?
Under an Aruban rock or an Holland rock ?
Watching Aruba police officials and spokesperson’s dance arround explaining their SHAM of an investigation and Arlene Shipper’s quiping on “we just don’t understand their justice system” was sickening.
I agree with everything you said justice4nat!!
It……no WE came back to bite em and we’re not letting go!
Aruba, you look sooooooooo bad right now!
Even worse than before.
Thanks again Julia, Dompig, and Angela!
Your idiotic accusations have put Natalee’s case
back in the news but not the way you expected!
LOLOLOLOL
Now even more people are convinced to avoid
your island.
DUMB DUMB DUMB
P.S.
We Natalee supporters are NEVER going away.
Have you gotten that message yet?
I pray they find this precious angel, Natalee Holloway. It’s time for Natalee to come home. Godspeed to all involved.
Why would paulus vandersloot be on line looking up the effects of drugs,unless natalee was still alive at the he did that,either way his hands are dirty.
at the time he did that.,,,,sorry
Good Luck TExas Equusearch….thanks for not giving up.
FYI:
We were on the phone this morning with the majority stock holder of Superior Offshore International. We are setting up an interview with Dana Pretzer for next week.
R
#12 Well Herb…I would hope they do and I would imagine they will not share that info with anyone who does not need to know. The fewer people who know, the better.
Also, whoever told them where to search would also know the guilty party and if they find the body could they not prosecute with evidence in hand. Who told them where to search? Only one I could think of would be the boys-perverts Gottenbo’s here in USA Georgia. Did they plea bargain here?
If somebody in Aruba told they would be dead.
Number25—I agree so lets just hope and pray.
THANKS FOR THE INFO RED AND FOR YOUR UNWAIVERING DEDICATION TO FINDING NATALEE!
BLESS ALL OF YOU FOR THAT!
Here we come Joran, Freddie, Satish, Deepak, Guido, Paulus. If Natalee is in the water, Texas Equusearch and Tim Miller will find her. Might as well give up now.
As far as Aruba: well just what line haven’t they stepped over? Just how low haven’t they gone? The depths of hell ain’t low enough for Aruba, cuz they’ve gone just that far to blame everyone but themselves for Natalee’s disappearance. Imagine the Chief of Security of Aruba making up fantasies by the dozens.
Yeah sure Dumpig, we believe that Beth, who has offered $250,000 for information on her daughter and $1,000,000 for her daughter back alive, refused a $4,000 ransom demand. Yeah, parents who stayed on one crappy little island night and day for 3 months refused a $4,000 ransom demand. Sure, parents who sifted through your stinking garbage in 90+ degree heat really refused a $4,000 ransom demand. Parents who jumped on the first plane out of Alabama to learn what happened to their daughter certainly refused a $4,000 ransom demand. Uh huh, keep the stories rolling! You are making big news.
Oh one more thing to dumpig and ruffro: parents aren’t suppose to have to pay ransom demands to get their children back! It’s the job the the police force to prevent their citizens from holding innocent teens for ransom! I’m sure you don’t understand this so let me say it very slow and very loud: RANSOM DEMANDS ARE ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!
Where can I send a donation to Tim Miller? I’d like to help in whatever way I can.
I just hope so much that they are on track and have info as to where she might be. Its hard to believe they would go to this trouble unless they had a a pretty good idea.
Hope those perverted vanders**ts are all sweating !!
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SM: Here is a link to their website and donation page. (klaasend)
http://www.texasequusearch.org/donate.html
#26 asks: and if they find the body could they not prosecute with evidence in hand?
Hell yes. But then Aruba “could” prosecute Joran and Paulus right now. But did they bother?
I hope this time the TES underwater search takes place for Dave and Beth’s sake. Hopefully the location is in international waters
Reckon the perps are running scared yet?
BOYCOTT ARUBA AND HOLLAND (the freaking Dutch boy dykes!!)!!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
Any idea what condition a body may be in after two years in the ocean ??? Would the trap keep the bones or would they come appart and leave the cage ??? Any one ever hear of a body being recovered after two years in the water ???
Please don’t go fuel in Venezuela without first asking
President Bush and Condoleeza Rice’s permission.
Let them phone President Chavez first.
If Superior Offshore International is coming, are they really coming to search for Natalee, or for oil and gas?
And if the F-16’s didn’t find Natalee anywhere in or around Aruba, shouldn’t they start looking somewhere else like in or around Curacao or Venezuela, or Colombia, or Panama?
Good luck, and all the best
Godspeed to Tim Miller, Texas EquuSearch and Houston, Texas Superior Offshore Int’l!!!
My husband works for BP…he handles all oilrigs in the Gulf & elsewhere… and is very familiar with this company as it is one they use. He says there is NO DOUBT that Natalee will be found if the general location is known.
Let’s all keep them in our prayers!
and I just have to say to all those responsible in Aruba for this MURDER and COVER-UP…Your game is up!! Your very own “haha” investigative reporters, Julia & Angela, and Your very own “haha” Chief of Police, Gerald Dompig, basically admitted all the lies and fallacies perpetrated in this sham of an investigation!
All this effort should have been put into actually collecting evidence and charging the real perps…instead of 2 years spewing hate and planting seeds of LIES & DECEPTION across the internet and news media. Only then could Aruba rise above this shameful sham and hold their heads high again with PRIDE.
AMERICA WILL NEVER GIVE UP SEARCHING FOR NATALEE OR THE TRUTH! NOR WILL WE EVER FORGET THE FALSE ACCUSATIONS MADE AGAINST NATALEE AND HER FAMILY!
hey buster
i think Natalee was wrapped in a tarp of some sort to avoid the transfer of trace evidence (Paulus would know this) and wrapped her in the tarp so they wouldn’t have to look at Natalee’s face/eyes.
After 2 years its possible that the tarp came undone and the long bones aswell as the arm bones could’ve escaped from the tarp & that the water currants allowed those bones to escape from the cage.
It is the SKULL that is to big to escape from the cage if thats where she is and i’ve said before that if anything is in a crab cage it will be the skull.
Its also possible that the tarp will still be inside the cage keeping some of the bones from escaping the cage. If Natalee is in there & a tarp was used i think a good portion of that tarp will still be inside the cage.
#29, there are no lines for the tourist industry on aruba. if you’re not spending money hand over fist, you have “vanished” from their sight and minds. the businessman at the dump expressed their feelings just fine. “they need to go home, shut up, and get over it.” and jvds wants to go into business there when he’s out of school. he’ll fit in just fine.
dennisintn
We should also try to get the Alabama State Police or the Texas State Police or better yet, perhaps the Scotland Yard, to come help investigate?
Just heard Dave tell millions of American’s that the article in Dutchs newspaper is NOT true and its absurd to even claim that!
THANK YOU DAVE!! WE’RE STILL WITH YOU DAVE & BETH!!!!!
Comment by mayan_moons | July 15, 2007, 2:34 pm
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Myan_moons … I am so encouraged. Both Robin and Dave Holloway reactions to the article/video “The Other Side of the Holloway Case” imply that they have recognized the truth in regards to those with an Aruban Agenda. I am praying that my perception is accurate.
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ROBIN HOLLOWAY
BFN - July, 2007
When we were first told Natalee missed her flight, we had no idea what had happened to her and still don’t to this day. As any parent, we had high hopes of going to Aruba and bringing Natalee home. The family was told that Natalee could be in a crackhouse so, in hopes of a live Natalee, what parent in their right mind would turn down the assistance of a MedJet to bring her home. This was all happening in the first days that Natalee disappeared and we had nothing to go on but what we were told in the beginning. As soon as we got on the island, everyone began searches all over the island looking for her in every area including the crackhouses. We were going on information provided by the ALE and had no reason to doubt their word at that time.
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DAVE HOLLOWAY
FOX ONLINE SHOW - July 15, 2007
All we had were some of these small time drug pushers, drug peddlars on the street wanting to get money for their drug use and to provide false tips and leads. If this is something that was true, it was escalated out of control. I WOULD CALL THIS PROBABLY TABLOID REPORTING AT BEAT.
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The true facts are that the Holland Police, that we call the Dutch police had taken over the investigation due to the bungling. They have a new prosecutor and they’re still active in the investigation. They consider this a homicide case and THEY CONSIDER THE LAST THREE PERSONS TO BE SEEN WITH NATALEE AS SUSPECTS IN THIS CASE. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE NOW.
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SM: Just makes me wonder why they would openly say they were not for a boycott, when the reality of a boycott is not defined as one of normal means.
The boycott against Aruba was individuals outrage that those in authority would knowingly cover up a crime. It was also for those people in Aruba for not demanding justice so that their island could go back to normal.
Th boycott was a way to support the family and for justice for Natalee … putting pressure on those that would not budge unless their tourism was affected. The boycott was not demanded by a country against another like an embargo, it was the individualistic support for Natalee & their family for answers.
So why would one be against that?
R
I would like for TES to find Natalee, but sadly, I believe Natalee is not at the bottom of the ocean. I hope I’m wrong.
I would really like to see a complete search of the landfill. Early evidence points to the landfill as the location of Natalee’s body. Some (almost everyone actually) said that Junior’s sighting of Paulus, Joran, and the two Ks at the landfill was bogus. I don’t agree that it was all bogus. I do think Junior lied about actually seeing Natalee’s body, but I believe the rest is true. Either his imagination ran away with him or he out and out lied, thinking that by saying that he saw the body they would search the landfill longer and harder, and he would get a reward, because he believed Natalee’s body was in the landfill somewhere.
Early on there was a poster who lived near the landfill, and she said there was a lot of activity there. She did not say she saw Paulus or Joran there, but she did say she saw other important people there.
Jerry
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SM: It would have been nice to have properly searched the land fill in its entirety without the obstructions that were placed in front of us.
R
Thanks for your response Janet! I’m encouraged too, its absolutely paramount that those deep waters be searched. If its really true that a crap cage was stolen that night then Natalee prolly was put inside it.
There was panic that night by the perps (yes i’m including you Paulus) in the rush to hide Natalee’s body i can see them not thinking ahead on how a missing crab cage and a missing person could be connected. Although they counted on all the marine life to break down and separate the body they DID NOT think that if/when the cage was found that marine life could not destroy the skull & the trap would protect the largest bone structure of the human body from escaping the container.
They didn’t think about that……did ya Jurine & Paulus?
God bless you, Tim Miller.
May you be guided by the gentle spirit of this child.
May her tears of sorrow, be heard across the ocean before you.
May the cries of her suffering lead you to her.
May the oceans open up before you, and release this child from the prison built by unconscionable monsters, so depraved as to deny her one final embrace from her loving family.
Let the sparkle in her smile illuminate your eyes, and guide you towards her,
May the spirit of truth and justice release her from the prison of her sorrow.
May her voice cry out to you, that you may find her, and gently carry her home.
God bless you, Tim Miller!
Godspeed and God bless you for the immeasurable depth of your giving heart, and the breadth of your compassion, that allows the imprint of a child’s suffering to be joined with all that you, yourself have suffered before her.
This child’s cries have changed us all!
And your model of human kindness, has changed our hearts forever!
Her voice continues to be heard through generous hearts of compassion,
That come together in her name, hearts that set their quest for her truth and justice upon the foundations of all the cruelty and sorrow that was inflicted upon her, and her beautiful family.
The depth of love from so many, brings healing to this family,
And will crush and rise up above the brutality of evil, that stole this precious child from her tender, loving family.
How do we measure the depth of someone’s heart and capacity of their soul?
We measure a person’s heart and soul by the integrity that they live by,
And by their willingness to allow the suffering of others to enter their lives.
May the handprint of Natalee’s sorrow guide you, Tim,
May the spirit of her voice be heard upon the oceans,
May her cries for her freedom lead you to her,
May our longing for her justice give you strength, wisdom, and perseverance!
May hope renew your quest to find her,
May God’s spirit guide you, that she may finally find her way home.
Dear Beth and Dave, and all their loving family members:
Rejoice in this suffering…
Suffering produces perseverance,
Perseverance produces character,
And Character gives birth to hope…
Do not let these evil people involved in taking your beloved Natalee from your lives, ever destroy your hope!
They think they “Controlled the message”.
They think they can now control the ‘outcome’.
They inflicted a life sentence of sorrow upon your hearts, and the legacy of their evil can be found in their depraved acts of brutality and indifference to your precious, beautiful daughter.
They persist to cling to their empty evil perversions,
but they will never contain your beautiful child’s truth and spirit!
Seize the power of this heartbreaking and unbearable suffering, and persevere, as you have always persevered, from the moment you first received the crushing news that Natalee had been taken away the the three men, who now persist in the degredation of criminal conduct,lies, corruption and obstructions to your beloved Natalee’s right to her truth being spoken and her justice being served.
Hold steadfast to hope, and know that we stand by your side, and by natalee’s side
through this heartbreaking journey of cruelty and depravity.
We see her beautiful smile, and the hopes and dreams she held onto
We see the illuminating sparkle in her eyes.
What a beautiful daughtrer!
What a blessing to this world!
Let her suffering rise up with your sorrow, and on the wings of her spirit, and your shattered broken hearts, let handprint of Natalee’s suffering,
Become the hope that drives you in your persuit of justice and truth,
Let the hope born of her painful truth become the anchor that bears you through this agonizing journey of sorrow.
You are never alone…
WE are all standing by your side,
By Natalee’s side…
And our hearts are firmly planted in seeds of hope that one day soon your
Suffering will be over,
Your precious daughter returned to her homeland and to your loving care,
That her truth will be spoken, and the her name and her legacy of hope to children everywhere, throughout the world, will long be remembered by her honorable good name.
Justice for Natalee.
Justice for her beautiful family.
Contain the monsters, Aruba, who violated this child’s human rights,
And release Natalee from this barbaric cruelty of CONTAINMENT WITH THE DEAD, that men and women with no conscience ALLOWED to be inflicted upon her!
SET THIS CHILD FREE!!!
SUPPORT THOSE WHO SUPPORT THIS CHILD’S RIGHT TO COME HOME TO HER FAMILY, FOR HER TRUTH TO BE TOLD, FOR HER HUMAN RIGHTS TO BE HONORED, FOR HER RIGHT TO JUSTICE TO BE SERVED!
TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: texasequusearch.org/donate.html
As far as Dave and the boycott….after all we’ve seen from Aruban’s i can’t even imagine the pressure and false promises and prolly veiled or open threats to stop investigating (like they ever started) and searching for his daughter if he encouraged the boycott.
Aruban’s are under the impression that we care and boycott coz The Media, or Red or Beth are telling us to. Could not be futher from the truth Aruba/Dutch. We saw with our own eyes how you lie, cheat & try to break the will of devastated families in the desperate search for their loved ones. We saw it and it was an UGLY thing to see and quite a global embarrassment you made of yourselves on international tv. Our concious is our guide Aruba….thats what tells us what to do and in this case our concious said to boycott the hell out of your island.
I hope Tim can make it this time to do the search for Natalee. Pray for Tim and the others with him to find her quickly. I also pray for people around the world with missing loved ones to help them in their time of need. Let your will be done Lord. God Bless.
# 38 - Miriam,
The Alabama State Troopers don’t have jurisdiction in Aruba or anywhere else over the State line. Same goes for the Texas State Troopers and the FBI. They can’t do squat
Our US State Dept could post warnings, advising our citizens to either not travel to Aruba or use extreme caution if they do.
I wonder why INTERPOL didn’t or hasn’t gotten involved…
SM: Just makes me wonder why they would openly say they were not for a boycott, when the reality of a boycott is not defined as one of normal means.
The boycott against Aruba was individuals outrage that those in authority would knowingly cover up a crime. It was also for those people in Aruba for not demanding justice so that their island could go back to normal.
Th boycott was a way to support the family and for justice for Natalee … putting pressure on those that would not budge unless their tourism was affected. The boycott was not demanded by a country against another like an embargo, it was the individualistic support for Natalee & their family for answers.
So why would one be against that?
R
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Red … your words make perfect sense. I believe that Robin and Dave have been negatively influenced by those with an Aruban agenda. However … when Robin and Dave regard those within their circle who were associated with the producers of the video “The Other Side of the Holloway Case” and … when Robin and Dave regard those within their circle who commended this video … maybe … just maybe … their reversed position on the boycott will be reconsidered. That is my sincere prayer.
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Associated Press
November 8, 2005
(AP) Gov. Bob Riley called for a nationwide travel boycott of Aruba on Tuesday on behalf a missing Alabama teenager’s family, who accuse the island’s government of not fully cooperating with the investigation into her disappearance. Riley asked his fellow governors to join him in urging the boycott of Aruba, where 18-year-old Natalee Holloway was last seen on May 30.
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Beth Twitty
CBS NEWS
March 25, 2005
“The only leverage that we have in getting any traction in the investigation is when they feel the effects of a boycott,” says Twitty.
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Dave Holloway
On the Record w/ Greta
November 17, 2005
HOLLOWAY: … I made sure that the prime minister understood our position. You know, I had been holding off on this boycott as long as I could, and I told him, I said, you know, The big wave is coming, and if you guys are not going to listen, I can’t help you anymore.
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Dave Holloway
Aruba Truth
November 9, 2005
The Aruban people elected their officials to make decisions in the best interests of their people, and we have done the same. The Alabama governor made a decision on Natalee’s behalf, so I will support that position.
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Senator Steve French
Alabama News
November 8, 2005
It’s my hope this will cause the Aruban people to be more demanding that their officials conduct a thorough investigation.
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SM: My main point being that the boycott as it has always been defined … was to support the family and provide Justice for Natalee. To create pressure to make people do the right thing. The Aruban boycott was a person’s free choice to do or not. No one forced anyone. If pressure is not brought to bare, Aruba would never have remotely lifted a finger, this case would have bee dismissed a long time ago.
Keeping it forefront in the news has brought pressure on Aruba and their tourism. To squabble over the definition of the “B” word as some have done in crazy. Missing persons and justice has nothing to do with PC nonsense or making people feel good about themselves. We are way beyond that some 2+ years later.
The boycott (support of the family & Natalee) for answers continues and will so.
R
Awesome TES and SOI…great news!
Only an idiot would believe Beth or Dave would choose 4 grand over the whereabouts of their daughter.
There was no reason for Beth and Dave to be doing those searches anyway. Law Enforcement should’ve been taking these leads and calls, not 2 women pretending to be Cagney and Lacey wannabes.
Why should grieving parents be out in crackhouses on false leads? For the same reason, the Jacobs, Straten and Dompig targeted the 2 security guards and went after them after they knew Natalee never came back to her hotel. It took the focus off of the last 3 to be with Natalee. Why not search their homes and cars and clothes, instead of a crackhouse????
FBI could’ve been brought in to handle this part, if they were seriously looking for Natalee. There’s not one shred of evidence that Natalee was a crackhead and was in a crackhouse, no more than there is of Joran ever taking her to beach. There was not one shred of evidence the 2 guards took Natalee and then had them held on kidnapping and murder. Why murder? June 5th. Same time Straten said he saw the evidence and believed Natalee was dead. Can’t imagine a girl missing here and someone with a restaurant and another person from the newspaper is trying to run part of the investigation. Like these people don’t have Aruban interests.
Remember Renfro and Anita’s statements about Joran. Both total jokes. Can you hear one of the 12 year olds. Mom, I wanna drink a case of beer, smoke, stay out all night drinking and gambling, fight, go to therapy for anger problems, steal, use girls, lie pathologically, threaten people, spray paint property, and cuss out anyone I can’t control.
From Vanity Fair..Renfro..
The tensions came to a head in the wake of an appearance Renfro made on the Van Susteren show. “Nobody knows this, but the family were the ones determining who goes on the shows,” she says. “It was all them.” That night, when Van Susteren asked about Joran, Renfro described the teenager as an EXCELLENT STUDENT WITH A GOOD REPUTATION AND “AN IDOL FOR THE YOUNGER KIDS.
Anita on Fox.
ANITA VAN DER SLOOT: Joran is a very outgoing person. He’s a sweetheart. To me, he’s very warm. We spend Easter vacation in Florida together to visit his school, and we had a lot of fun together, went to Busch Gardens (search), and he was getting me cups of coffee and making jokes. He’s very outgoing, loving, caring, fights with his brothers all the time, but I think that’s pretty normal. We cannot get him out of bed in the morning to go to school, but once he’s there, he’s doing great. He got picked up on the morning of his graduation. He graduated with honor, all As and Bs. He did some AP, advanced courses, physics, calculus, AP English.
VAN SUSTEREN: Any drug use or alcohol use by him?
ANITA VAN DER SLOOT: A hundred percent no. No. He is, like, Mom, I would not smoke or I would not use drugs because I am a sporter. I want to make something out of my future. If there would have been anything of that, I would have noticed. I’m a teacher. I work with kids between 12 and 18 years, the last 25 years. So you’re used to so many things, problems that appear with your students. You’re so alert. And I think you’re even more alert with your own children.
On YouTube there is an awesome painter..paints pictures in about 5 minutes.. named Daniel Dunn.. Here is the one of him doing a picture of Freebird. He paints to the music. Made me think of Natalee.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ye2svGQy8w
Love the one he does to Ray Charles music. He’s amazing.
May the handprint of this child’s suffering touch our hearts.
May the brokenness she and her family suffers change us all,
that each of us might choose to do something good in her name,
because she touched each one of us,
and gathered our hearts together in hope.
Hope for Natalee!
MR. Holloway……we share in those prayers for Tim and all the kind soul’s involved in this huge endeavor to safely & quickly reclaim Natalee’s remains for her family and to bring her back to her Native Soil.
Yes….of course pryers too all those with missing loved ones. There have been so many people (mostly female) reported missing and found murdered. Then there’s the Kessee’s daughter Jennifer still missing like Natalee and their names are never forgotton, when i think of Natalee i think of the other girls/guys not found yet.
#42, Pearl your post brought this lurker to tears. Justice for Natalee!
Tim Miller is definitely one of a kind, and very good at what he does. He is quite possible the very bet in the world at what he does. He has some hunches where he believes Natalee’s body is located, and he got these ideas from Dompig.
I’ve followed nearly everything Tim has said on Dana’s show (I may have followed everything-not sure). Tim said that a body in 800 feet of water never resurfaces. In the beginning, posters were speculating about the amount of weight necessary to keep a body below the surface. If Tim is correct, and who would know better, a body in deep water doesn’t have to be weighted down. It never comes to the top.
Something also interesting, Tim said it is very cold at 800 feet. He said it would be like being in a refrigerator, and Natalee’s body and evidence would be very well preserved. At 800 feet, there is not much animal life to disturb a body.
I hope he finds Natalee. I hope he does. If he doesn’t, I hope he goes to the landfill next. That would be a very difficult search, and someone caught part of it on fire during the time Dave was searching. That would make the search even harder.
I read that they found the little high school girl who was missing in Lubbock, Texas in the landfill after months of searching.
http://fromwhisperstoroars.blogspot.com/2006/10/police-believe-mummified-body-found-in.html
Jerry
Pearl said…
“How do we measure the depths of someone’s heart and the compacity of their soul? We measure their heart and soul by the integrity that they live by, and by their willingness to allow the suffering of others to enter their lives”
That is beautiful Pearl!~
Hey Maggie! Thank you for that link, its very touching.
Isn’t that machine Triton impressive! And the ships are near Trinidad i hear! Very good news indeed!
Could any one tell me why my post was deleted,it said if paulus vandersloot was on line looking up the effects of drugs then natalee was probaly still alive at that time,
Do you know that a certain stolen laptop in Aruba was found all the way in the Dominican Republic?
Do you know why young people in Aruba have lost respect for their police? Because they have been seeing the police practicing the three monkeys policy covering their eyes, ears and mouth: me don’t see’, me don’t hear, me don’t know, that led to what happened to Natalee.
Why is it that the news some days ago about the Aruba’s youth protesting against the police was not posted on Scared Monkeys ?
So now another milestone is being passed. The long-awaited water search, presumably the final effort, that we were told was going to happen in June is now slated for August.
I hope that all those who denounce the oil exploration companies and their kith and kin will bow their heads to acknowledge the utter and fundamental decency of the contribution to this search.
DECENCY. When was the last time that word was heard in connection with the Natalee Holloway case? The UTTER LACK OF DECENCY has been present on Aruba since day one. The moral filth has made itself plain.
Let’s also remember one thing … it is, or should be, the DUTY of the Arubans and the Dutch to pay for this effort.
So help me God, let us never forget that the burden of doing the investigation has fallen on the shoulders and wallets of American volunteers since day one. Let us never forget this … because Aruba will whine about what an effort it has made and is making.
The government of Aruba doesn’t deserve to have us spit on it. But in charity, I am willing to give them that much.
IF Natalee is at the bottom of the ocean, let us hope and pray that she is found. I know that Art Wood and Tim Miller have said they believe they know exactly where her body is. Regardless, IF she is in the ocean, LET HER BE FOUND.
The family has been too long without justice.
And the perpetrators have been far too long without justice.
Maybe this will change.
Do we want revenge? Speaking only for myself … HELL, YES.
One more thing … if Natalee’s body is not found in the ocean, in what I presume will be a thorough search, and also the final one … will ideas change?
never mind my comment is there,going to eye doctor.
Ben … it’s also possible that they were also trying to come up with a cover story for something else that happened to her, but I won’t go on about that now.
If I remember, the Bible says that God made man in His own image. Hard to believe it these days, but that’s what it says, if I remember.
Pray, then, who or what entity created the Aruban government?
I know Art Wood lives up to his promises. So does Tim Miller; that I got from a volunteer diver that I know.
I don’t know why they think Natalee is at sea. There was only on mention of the possibility. That was Micheal Dompig said that Joran and Keon had taken Keon’s father’s boat out that night.
If they are searching the area originally mentioned, that would be about 5,000 cubic miles of Ocean, or an area about the size of Delaware to a depth of about 350 meters.
I wish them more success than I have had.
Does anyone remember the name Fred Golba? He was instrumental during 911 in locating bodies and survivors. Does anyone know if Fred Golba of Coast to Coast Canine has been on Aruba recently doing any land searches?
If this turns up nothing, will people shrug and say, “Well, I guess she’ll never be found” or will they open their minds and look to South America or Curacao?
I still firmly believe that the NY Chapter of the Hells Angels should pay Joran and the other 4 perps a visit. Results guaranteed.
10061906 - Fred has just returned from Aruba. He was there for 6 days and was well received by the new prosecutor. Apparently he came back empty handed
BOYCOTT ARUBA AND HOLLAND!!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
If we do find Natalee at the bottom of the sea, in a container or in a cage, as far as I am concerned, Joran DESERVES, let the crime be the punishment!
my prayers are with Tim and TES.It way past time for her to come home.justice can wait for NAH to come home.Where she belongs.
Susan Thank You;
I was under the misunderstanding he was there at the end of June.
Do you know of any comments made by DeWitt or is he trying to avoid the publicity?
The young Aruban’s had a protest to the police you say??
tell us more…
Yes……do to them what they did to Natalee…it’s only fair….right?
These kidnappers….killers walk free on Aruba soil with official’s and population have full knowledge of what they’ve done.
Aruba is NOT sorry and has made it crystal clear that they’re not going to do one single thing to stop it from happening again.
I don’t think anyone’s eliminated that possiblity entirerly but more suggests to me that she was killed. Either way we’re fighting just as hard.
30. Thanks for the link to TES. “Speed Bonny Boat”….
I’m really glad to see such great equipment is going to be used to search for Natalee! If she’s in the water and they have a valid clue as to where she is, then they will surely find her at last! But…
I might have to eat crow pie on this one, but I don’t see how Natalee could be in the ocean in that crab cage….I don’t think the perps would have put her in that crab cage that would have so obviously been a clue being as how it was reported missing. All that crap that was reported missing was just too obvious a suggestion that she had been taken out to sea, so I personally feel like it was a lie that the stuff was ever even stolen and maybe even a clue that she was NOT taken to water.
BUt if the perps had wanted to dispose of Natalee in the ocean all they had to do was dump her off in depth with a cinderblock tied to her. Nothing any fancier than that.
Like I said, I many have to eat it on this, but if Tim and the crew are using tips based on that cage to find location, I fear this is going to be an expensive wild goose chase. But then again, I don’t believe any tips offered by ALE or supported by ALE are anywhere near the truth.
It would be easier for me personally to believe Natalee is still alive than to believe she will be found by Tim in the water.
Note i earlier said “IF it were true that a cage was stolen thats its likely they put her in it.”
The deep waters need to be searched as a process of elimination.
I also said IF she’s in that cage her skull will still be inside.
SM: Lady Devon, check your email (klaasend)
Regardless of the fact that what the Amigoe article carried, it brought to light some facts that some may not have known, the fact that the editors/authors of that article are liars and are in positions of reporters who are supposed to report facts. Even the America media now taking note of the way they have been spun by the lying liars lends a lot more credibility to Jossy and Natalee’s family. The mainstream media may even wake up one day and notice it. It was a long time before Greta came on board. She tends to go with the MSM, which Fox is not considered a part of but do remember for years, Greta believed OJ. She finally was shown how wrong her opinion was there. She never truly believed Beth and Dave until she flat had it thrown in her face what lying liars are in charge of reporting facts in Aruba. More is coming. Beth’s book is on the way. Lying liars are being exposed from Brabant to Montaja.
Thanks Klass.
If her body is at the bottom of the ocean, it may or may not be in a cage. We know that Tim Miller and Art Wood believe that this is what happened, and don’t know for sure what they may have heard.
It was said that Fred Galba was back on Aruba with his dogs, and found nothing. No land search has been productive yet (which doesn’t mean that her body couldn’t have been put elsewhere on land).
Now the water search is coming up. Presumably this will either work or it won’t … either it will end one big part of the mystery or it won’t. Either way, something, anything that promises to advance our knowledge is to be welcomed and applauded.
IF Natalee is in the water, and IF they find her, then that much will be over. Maybe then our government will take this seriously … something it has hardly done yet.
But I’m not convinced that her body is in the water. We’ll have to wait and see.
I forget the name of the law firm that Paulus of the Ditch works for, but I’ll bet he’s getting some very curious looks there. Wonder if he’s even being assigned to any cases … or if anyone would want the scum working for them.
susan 63:
In all due respect; how did you find that info on Fred?
I searched and searched and could not find anything.
Did he have any dogs with him and did he need a permit for them?
#34: the planes weren’t there to look for Natalee..this was passed off as an effort to find her by the ALE. this was a routine flight for these planes. that was an easy and convient lie to use.
1006, I remember hearing about that news too. Can’t remember where or from whom.
“For good or ill, let the wheel turn.”
(T.S. Eliot, “Murder in the Cathedral”)
Richard, its at BFN…Dave made a thread.
Mayan, when this is over,soon with Tims help, I think we should all get together…
In all due respect; how did you find that info on Fred?
I searched and searched and could not find anything.
Did he have any dogs with him and did he need a permit for them?
Comment by 10061906 | July 16, 2007, 7:53 am
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Dave Holloway
BFN - July 6, 2007
Fred Golba of Coast to Coast Canine Service just returned from Aruba after 6 days on the island. He indicated he was well received by the new prosecutor and was told the new Dutch team is still active in the investigation. He also advised Dennis Jacobs is no longer working on this case and had resumed his prior duties.
Fred advised he searched areas of interest that were originally reported thru the police tip line. This completed most of the public surface areas that had been surface searched on foot, however, the private lands still make up the majority of the unsearched land area. He also walked the coastline areas for washed up items, however, due to the time contraints, he was unable to complete all of this area.
The $250,000 U.S. dollars reward (approx $450,000 Florins) will continue to be published periodically in the local paper for someone to come forward with valid information on the whereabouts of Natalee.
75, Richard…I respect your thoughts and feelings concerning this heart breaking case, and wanted to try to respond …
I wanted to offer you some thoughts concerning your impressions regarding our government and your belief that Natalee’s suffering was not being taken seriously…
I realize how heart wrenching her story is, and how watching such torment unfold that continues to be inflicted upon Natalee’s family and upon Natlaee - is simply unbearable to watch. I think there are some in Aruba, who would be absolutely gleeful to see us turn with dismay and suspicion towards our own government - as afterall, that is exactly one of the scenarios they’d like for us to fall into: look for blame everywhere and anywhere EXCEPT where it REALLY IS …. WHERE ALL ROADS LEAD, RICHARD ….TO SLOOT TERRITORY, and to their accomplices.
I think from my own perspective, it would be a serious mistake to conclude that based upon what Aruba and the Dutch have failed to do thus far, that this would suggest that the United States government has not taken the human rights violations inflicted upon Natalee AND HER FAMILY, seriously.
I must tell you, that I do believe that the snakes involved in the hideous obstructions of Natalee’s justice and truth - would be thrilled to see us suspicious of our own government concerning this particular matter.
They’ve already blamed our FBI, our government, and anyone BUT the perpetrators of this injustice ( including failure to arrest not only the murderers and kidnappers, but all their CO-CONSPIRATORS).
Because we do not see what our FBI is doing, doesn’t mean that they are NOT taking action.
We do not know to what depths, nor to what shores this horrific injustice goes, but we believe we have some idea.
Add to this the fact that this case involves international criminal ACTS of HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, and all the jurisdictional issues that have been USED to DENY our FBI ACCESS to helping Natalee’s family and Natalee.
Those jurisdicitional issues were put into place VERY EARLY ON ….by …. GUESS WHO?
WHO was the person immediately running over to the ALE, TELLING THEM at 3:30 AM in the morning that the United States FBI had NO JURISDICTION to question the thugs who STOLE Natalee from her loving family?
There are international laws that must be followed, in order to secure for the family, what is hoped for.
Sometimes, Richard given the perverse display of obstructive conduct that was clearly already evident by MAY 31, 2005 - I do wonder whether ON THIS SIDE OF THE FENCE, the FBI had quite an interesting OBSERVERVATORY status unfolding, regarding Mr. Oduber and his pals upon his arrival HERE on OUR SIDE OF THE FENCE, when I believe Oduber showed up here in the United States - afterall, he and his people were claiming that “progress was being made” in “investigating” Natalee’s case, yet, actions taken by the ALE and other Aruban officials - IN LIGHT OF EVIDENCE ALREADY AVAILABLE TO ALL OF THEM - indicated that ANYTHING BUT PROGRESS IN FINDING NATALEE - was being made.
Perhaps that reference to “progress being made” had more to do with the “progress being made” in the obstructions of justice and criminal concealment of multiples crimes of human rights violations that were being commmitted against Natalee that were ALL being COVERED UP.
I do wonder, whether the FBI might have been quite active over on this side of the fence. After all, it wasn’t as though they had no REASON to be SUSPICIOUS and CONCERNED regarding what THEY were being TOLD by ALE officials, and heads of state in the Aruban governement - given the facts of evidence already available to those Aruban officials on May 31, 2005 which seemed to be followed by Aruban officials with absolutely NO ACTIONS taken whatsoever, in acting ON the EVIDENCE THEY ALREADY HAD RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THEM THAT PROVED THAT THE THREE MEN LYING ABOUT WHERE THEY PUT NATALEE WERE CLEARLY TARGETS FOR SUSPICION OF THIER INVOLVEMENT IN WHY SHE COULD NOW, NO LONGER BE FOUND ANYWHERE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. The surveillance tapes at the Casino, and at the Holiday Inn proved Joran, Deepak and Satish were all LIARS, and that Paulus himself was a big liar. Furthermore, Hotel employees and the NIGHT SECURITY GUARD all stated: SHE NEVER CAME THRU THE LOBBY - which, JORAN and DEEPAK and SATISH HAD ALL PIN-POINTED AS THEIR “DROP OFF” LOCATION.
That was clearly ENOUGH for CAUSE TO ARREST THEM.
Did Karen Jannsen follow through with her duties - based on this VERY CLEAR EVIDENCE OF THE THREE THUGS + P’s LIES?
Did Dompig, van der STraaten or Jacobs follow through with their duties based on this clear evidence of the THREE THUGS + P’s LIES?
Hammer says it best: FAILURE TO PERFORM ONE’S DUTIES, a purposeful FAILURE to perform one’s duties which - well, spells into what it is: CORRUPTION, COVER UP…NOT “mistakes” and “bungling”.
Here’s something else that’s been bothering me, Richard.
Maybe you’ve noticed this too…and can help me figure this out…
WHEN - does the first appearance by ALE officials surface concerning THEIR REQUESTS of OTHER GOVERNMENTS to be on the “LOOK OUT” for Natalee?
Think…. when did that end up getting reported?
WHEN does that take place?
And surrounding WHAT other events, Richard? Think …
I can only speak for myself and say, God bless those DEA?FBI agents who were working this case, and who continue to work it now, because I cannot fathom how on earth they did their jobs, having to deal with the level of evil and depravity they had to face then, and which they continue to face now.
On a personal note, I simply believe we owe it to them to stand by them, to stand by Natalee, to continue to raise good and fair questions, but give OUR TEAM, who hasn’t even been handed ANY jurisdiction of this case yet ( due to ARUBA’s FAILURE TO PERFORM),…that OUR TEAM deserves honor and respect because THEY are not the criminals, and as we all know, there ARE indded ALE law enforcement officials involved at multiple levels who are nothing more than criminals and traitors to their own oaths of office that they took in representation of the PUBLIC’S SAFETY AND INTEREST for whom they took their ‘oaths’ and for whom they are supposed to wear their “badge”.
But it wasn’t OUR AGENTS and it wasn’t our government that betrayed Natalee…and I truly do believe that they are working this case, and they are taking it very seriously, but because of the layers involved, and purposeful obstructions being repeatedly placed before them, there are certain ‘channels’ so to speak, that must be followed in order to secure the outcome that we all hope for.
I offer this simply to say, that this is what I believe.
This child’s suffering is heartbreaking.
But as you wisely pointed out Richard, and quite well, consider the level of abuse, COSTS, emotional harm and distress, trauma, torment, and levels of personnel that have now been put into play in order to TRULY help find Natalee ( I’m referencing things going on both in front of our eyes through such individuals as Tim Miller, the people here who run SM, - and that which goes on unseen, carried out by our FBI and other entities involved in a TRUTHFUL search for Natalee), and consider that while all these resources are being put into play to truly FIND HER,AFTER SUCH HIDEOUS BARBARIC OBSTRUCTIONS PUT INTO PLAY IN ORDER TO OBSTRUCT OUR FBI’S EFFORTS OF EVER FINDING NATALEE… that the murderous thugs who took this precious human life off the face of the earth are on a DAILY BASIS, enjoying their freedom, incurring absolutely NO COSTS, having a jolly good time with all their liberties, while Natlaee’s family is PUNISHED, and continues to carry an unbearable suffering, is continuing to be subjected to the most barbaric suffering and indifference, and made to carry the burden of not only ALL COSTS NOW - during TWO YEARS OF CRIPPLING TORMENT, but the fact remains that no matter WHAT the outcome of all of this cruelty, THEY WILL CARRY THE SENTENCE OF WHAT COMES WITH THE LOSS OF NATALEE - FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES…while PUNK LYING MURDERERS CONTINUE TO “NOT FEEL LIKE TALKING RIGHT NOW”, and ARUBAN JUDGES GRANT THEM THIS PERVERSE, SICK, TWISTED NOTION OF “RIGHTS”, while the USA and all those generous individuals trying to help bear with Natalee’s family - ALL COSTS for FINDING THIS PRECIOUS AMERICAN CHILD!
TALK ABOUT ARROGANCE AND INJUSTICE!
This is why I suggest that in many ways, we hold great power, and should use it:
1. I personally have good faith that our government and the FBI are doing their jobs. As far as I’m concerned - at this point in time, I have no reason to believe that they are NOT doing their jobs, or not taking Natalee’s suffering seriously, and that because we do not “see” what is being put into play, doesn’t mean nothing is taking place. There are so many layers to this child’s suffering, and consider ALL the obstacles that corrupt devils have put into place to OBSTRUCT our FBI from finding this child. I just think we owe it to those men and women who stood by Beth and who I do believe helped to PRESERVE NATALEE’S TRUTH, that we give them our full support and hold the heels of the LIARS, MONSTERS, CO-CONSPIRATORS AND MURDERERS TO THE COALS.
2. Write to the media and ask how their oaths to ‘inform the public’ and “report the truth” are being carried out as it relates to this family’s suffering and to the human rights violations inflicted upon this American child, Natalee Holloway.
3. Suggest the media do some research, to investigate whether Nelson Oduber was in the United States of America - oh, say - around June 4th through June 7th of 2005, - and WHY he was here. This needs to be investigated.
Perhaps the media could do a piece on investigating WHY that just might be of concern for ALL OF US, when it comes to looking at WHAT WAS BEING DONE TO NATALEE HOLLOWAY and her Family during the very same time that Oduber was perhaps right here, in the USA, especially - given the evidence that was ALREADY AVAILABLE TO ALE OFFICIALS and the ARuban government officials, and in light of Oduber’s appearance at that time in the USA, what that might suggest regarding WHAT Aruba NOW CONTINUES to be doing to Natalee and her beautiful family.
I could be very wrong, Richard, but I think that Oduber was in the USA in early June, 2005, and what is most sickening is what transpired HERE on our soil, in light of the barbaric, sickening cruelty that what was transpiring in ARUBA on HIS SOIL in the form of insidious violations of the Twitty Holloway family’s human rights, and the human rights violations that were being inflicted upon Natalee and which continue to be inflicted upon Natalee and her family.
4. Write to tourism officials here in the USA and question what the US tourism boards are doing in advocating for this American child’s rights to come home… because if we don’t stand together FOR HER, particularly on THIS ISSUE, then ALL of us will lose something very precious and sacred that has roots that go back to how we formed together as a ‘people’ in the first place. If Aruba’s plans are to behave barbaric and inhumane, then tourism boards across the USA have a duty and responsibility to notify Americans of the very REAL dangers associated with any consideration of travel to Aruba - BECAUSE of the CORRUPTION and CRIMINAL ACTS BY PUBLIC OFFICIALS WHO PARTICIPATED IN OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE FOR AN AMERICAN TOURIST. There’s just no way around that. Her truth needs to be told, the public deserves and needs to be informed, and the EVIDENCE of this corruption is CRYSTAL CLEAR.
I realize how difficult it is to consider what Natalee suffered, and what her family continues to suffer two years now and how barbaric this cruelty is in that it is ALLOWED to CONTINUE by the monsters who created it, and that it perhaps has taken a toll on many people who continue to faithfully stand by Natalee’s side through this battle for her truth and her right to justice.
I just wanted to put it out there, that I think we need to realize that because we cannot SEE what the FBI is doing, or what government officials are doing, or what other entities working on Natalee’s behalf are doing, that it therefore means that they are not taking this matter seriously.
I do support your belief, Richard, that the ALE and multiple Aruban officials NEVER TOOK NATALEE’S HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS SERIOUSLY.
The only thing that I can see that was taken seriously BY THEM was their concern for themselves, their tourism, and protecting some really volatile, perverted dirty secrets from being exposed, about the REAL truth of what happens to tourists in Aruba.
I simply offer this for your consideration, Richard as we all continue to battle for Natalee’s right to justice.
Keep the faith, and keep asking those good questions.
God bless Natalee.
God bless her family.
God bless all of you kind people who have opened your hearts to them, and allowed their suffering to touch your own hearts.
Thanks for posting that, Janet. I no longer post at or read BFN, but someone was telling me about that post.
It’s interesting that in this post, Dave Holloway says the Dutch are still active in the case … meanwhile, if I remember from what was said here, JQK said the Dutch have left the island. I don’t see how both can be true.
Anyway, the water search is the next big push in the case.
Wonder if Paulus is feeling sweaty these days; well, I guess it’s hot in Aruba right now….
Some interesting observations, Richard.
And perhaps what appears as contradictions might indeed explain other events for us that are equally difficult to understand right now, but which may perhaps be clearer for us later… ? (just a thought)…
I think you are so right, Richard! It must be VERY HOT in Aruba right now. Why, I heard someone say that the buckets are just overflowing with sweat around the Ditch-table.
vicki: Not until Natalee’s remains are back in Alabama.
After that happens that is a great idea if we could all meet someplace.
Paulus and Joran know exactly what happened to Natalee and where she is. But they say nothing. Just continue on to prolong the agony for the family and friends. They just sit there and watch thousands of dollars being spent, not out of their pocket of course, and all the time and effort, watching and knowing the hopes of thousands that she’ll be found. They belong in a cage 800 feet down and no search party.
And search the sand dunes…Dompig states he had a reliable tip…yeah, his ex-brother-in-law, drug addict, drug dealer. That was a made of means of trying to collect the reward money. The brother-in-law gives the false tip, but thinks it’s a possibility and Dompig arranges the search to happen. If Natalee was found by chance, they share the proceeds. Slimy…sucks like pigs!!! Same as, how much money you got!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$…their bible.
If they find Natalee there will be law-suits going in all directions. And I hope Beth and Dave go for every one of them. After what they have been through…I don’t think they could loose any form of justice. Including the death penalty for Paulus and Joran. There would be so many counts of crime.
Per post #81 from Janet about Dave’s statement on BFN.
Dennis Jacobs is no longer working on this case. Why was he ever working on this case? His interviews has no follow up questions of what the suspects say. He and Straten were still meeting in his office long after Straten was removed from this case. He told Dave to go get a beer at Carlos n Charlies and watch his drink, he may be drugged. He asked Dave right off how much money he had. He complained to the Twitty’s that he had to eat his Frosted Flakes and shave before he talk to them and have his coffee. When he did talk to them he was using slurs about women and other unprofessional comments. He called Beth in to give a statement and after she waited 2 hours..he told her he wouldn’t be needing her statement. He watched the video of Natalee not returning and still went out and arrested the 2 security guards. Beth gave her statement, then was approached in a restaurant to sign her statement and when she did, things were left out and changed on it. Dave gave a long statement to him about meeting with Paulus and other things and when he got his statement to sign , it was real short and left out most of what he said. Jacobs told vietvet and his group, not to go near J2K, but to look in crackhouses for Natalee. Jacobs and Stratent never did no home searches on the 3 last known suspects, no body searches, no clothes searches, no car searches, no property searches for over 9 days. Jacobs and Stratent and Dompig did home searches on the 2 guards and arrested them for murder and kidnapping of Natalee on June 5th. Same time Straten said he saw the evidence that Natalee was dead. Jacobs was a narcotics agent. why was he ever on this case? Why was straten ever on this case? We already know the conflict of interests he had. Nice to know 2 years later Jacobs isn’t on Natalee’s case. What person down there selected him to run Natalee’s case? Straten?? Sounds about right. This person is on a police force to protect tourists? I suppose per Dompig, he can blame all the above on the FBI also.
Rick Smid , judge, friend of Paulus, is another dirty deal. Giving Joran immunity to go to the Netherlands for college, overiding Joran as a suspect and shouldn’t of been allowed to leave Aruba……Paulus must have alot of dirt on alot of people, him included.
The temperature in Aruba is 91 degrees and the heat index is 102, for most people. I wonder what it is for Paulus and the band of renegades.
The reward money is now at 3.2 million dollars. You would think if the Kalpoes weren’t guilty and only coached by Paulus to repeat what he said, they would have come forward, take the money and run.
Well, Koen is surely afraid of something big and so is the rest of the Gottenbos family.
Maggie…the police in Aruba are covering for more than Joran and Daddy. They are covering the casino owners. Bet not many people know that the owners of the Radisson Poker room are Americans. 2 brothers from Arkasas. The Howell brothers. They have an interesting past and an interesting daddy dearest..google howell arkansas banker….google aruba poker cheats….google raddison poker room …seems the owners knew the locals boys were cheating the tourists at their casinos and let them
Aruba isnt covering up for joran and daddy they are covering for their cash cow the casino’s
Boycott Aruba
Pearl, thanks for your all-encompassing comment. I guess my reply would be that of course we don’t know everything the FBI did or didn’t do … we do know they complained about being frozen out of the case by the Arubans since day one.
My comments were aimed more, or mainly, at the regular machinery of government that then, and now, seemed not to think that this obvious cover-up was a legitimate matter of concern.
In other words, warning Americans that Aruba might not be a good place to visit.
Of course, not even the American Society of Travel Agents would consider meaningful action.
This is what I meant when I said that our government has not taken the case seriously. The Amy Bradley case is another. The Joel Gove case, where (as far as I know) his body is still on the island of Saba because his family can’t afford to finance a private search-and-recovery effort and the locals, whose job it should be, CAN’T BE BOTHERED.
Of course, when the American family were drugged in the Aruban casino and the wife was taken out to the desert and raped … what action did our government take then?
You got it. Nada.
Of course, it’s safe to say that whatever the FBI might have done, or tried to do, or thought about doing … as far as we know, nothing has been achieved. Except a lot of American money and sweat have been invested … while the Arubans stood around and overcharged.
10061906 - Sorry, I forgot to mention where I had read about Fred Golba’s recent visit to Aruba
It is on BFN.
BOYCOTT ARUBA AND HOLLAND!!
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
Screw the murdering raping Van der sloot family.
Screw the Kalpoes.
Screw the Dompig scuzzbag family, Gerold & Michael.
Scew that fleabag of a hooker, Karin Jaansen.
Screw Rudy Croes.
Screw Nelson Oduber, & his son that brutally raped
the family maid.
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Hey…
Where I come from, we refer to those pieces of
floating sewer refuse as ‘walking targets.’
…
Down with Aruba if they want to continue to
stand in the way of Justice 4 Natalee! This can take
as long as they want! There is no bottom to this
pit, if they want to keep playing these games. We
have the resources and wherewithal to wait them
out, and suffocate them to death. In fact, after the
suffering and pain that they’ve caused, some may even
consider it a pleasure, and worth the wait. -j4n
NATALEE NEEDS JUSTICE, AND SHE’LL GET IT ONE DAY SOON.
Here is a blast from the past!
CBS - http://tinyurl.com/ys96we
-j4n
Doesn’t anyone think she has been eated by fish if she was in the water? Gee, two years of just remaining intact sounds beyond a miracle.
If Natalee is way below in the sea, there are not that many fish, but alot of lobster. Her skull would still be there and from that DNA would be still be available.
Paulus proclaims, no body no case…that is not true. It is difficult to prove but you can have a murder conviction without a body, and he knows that without saying so!
Joran, is a sociopath….society in the Netherlands need to do something about it…Eric Smid allowed him immunity to attend college, which never should of happened. Expose him to other innocent victims., where does this stop. Are you going to wait until he harms another victim, If he does it lies on the shoulders of ERIC SMID! He assumes all responsibility for Joran and is accountable for all of his actions!
#95
Natalee’s body might be in a container of some sort.
Thanks to smish.
& a hello to Mayan Moons.
As far as boycotting Holland goes, you better check this website with regards to Offshore Construction…..
http://www.ihcholland.com/t/ihcholland_com/0_frameset/frames_1.htm?/t/ihcholland_com/news/kiellegging.htm
Hello to everyone here,
I just came back from Aruba. I stayed there for 1 month. I spoke to many Americans and locals as possible. I’m glad that the locals were kind enough to listen to the otherside of the story and many agreed with me. So that is a progress hahah I also spoke to one cop from New Jersey on the party boat Tattoo. At first i didn’t know how to ask him about this case but after a few drinks i finally asked him this question. What do you think happened to Natalee? He first didn’t know how to answer the question…hahhaha He didn’t expected i guess or he was afraid that i would get offended if he told me what he really thought happened to Natalee. But i told him that i won ´t get offended or anything if he thinks Aruba is covering up this case. So he told me what he thinks happened and well it’s no different than what you monkeys here think about this case. I also met a group of young american girls at the moomba beach. They asked me if i could take their picture. When i was about to take their picture, one girl yelled out, “can everybody say Nataleeeeeeeeeeeee”. What i noticed is that this is kinda turning into a tourist attraction. When i was in a restaurant in the Holiday inn. I heard some pple saying “oh, this is the same hotel that natalee stayed”. It looks like most tourists wants to visit the places Natalee was or stayed.
A recent thread dealt with the theft of a laptop computer from the Dutch investigators in Aruba. Somehow it wound up on the Dominican Republic, laden with information both on Natalee’s case and the crime/drug situation in general.
This article from today’s news might be of interest. It is about Puerto Rico, but illustrates the degree of corruption that accompanies drug trafficking and lowly paid police.
Officials of all ranks have been involved with dark deeds.
Why, there are even reports of corrupt judges!
Well, at least we know this can’t happen on Aruba.
http://www.miamiherald.com/884/story/172755.html
PUERTO RICO
Police corruption undermines Puerto Rican drug war
Puerto Rican police, prosecutors and other public officials have been investigated for working with local drug dealers.
BY FRANCES ROBLES
frobles@MiamiHerald.com
SAN JUAN —
Every time law enforcement officers in Puerto Rico closed in on the island’s most-wanted fugitive last year, drug trafficker Alex Trujillo skipped out just in time.
He was captured only after the joint federal and local task force hunting him down was cut in half to weed out suspected insider informants, Police Superintendent Pedro Toledo said.
And after investigators at Puerto Rico’s Justice Department saw several drug stings flop last fall, prosecutors discovered a department employee who was tipping off drug dealers. Aurea Teresa Cancio Nieves was caught on camera taking $1,500 from an undercover agent, court records show.
As Puerto Rico battles one of the highest crime rates in the United States and burgeoning drug trafficking blamed for about 700 murders a year, authorities are confronting another harsh reality: corruption.
About 100 police officers are currently under investigation, and 75 others have been convicted in federal court in the past five years, law enforcement officials said. The Puerto Rican attorney general’s office has 17 open cases against members of the police department.
As a hub for cocaine and heroin arriving from Colombia on the way to mainland U.S. streets, Puerto Rico is so steeped in drug corruption that even a top prosecutor was accused of accepting a Mercedes Benz from a known dealer. The U.S. government estimates that 20 percent of the cocaine from Colombia passes through the Caribbean.
”We have had officers using police cars to escort drug dealers, and we have arrested officers selling weapons to undercover agents,” Toledo said. “We have many honest, hard-working officers, but some violate their oath. We have to get rid of them. We are not going to cover up corruption.”
Between 1993 and 2000, the Puerto Rico Police Department expelled 1,000 police officers on a variety of criminal charges, Toledo said. But he stressed that there are about 20,000 officers across the island of 4 million people — one of the world’s highest police-per-capita ratios — making the corrupt officers a comparatively small minority.
In November, two officers assigned to the Arecibo station on the north coast were sentenced to 65 years in prison for protecting cocaine shipments. Another got 40 years.
`LOST HONOR’
In 2001, 32 officers were arrested in the biggest police corruption case in the island’s history, dubbed ”Operation Lost Honor.” Officers were accused of using their patrol cars to protect cocaine shipments.
In 2004, 16 officers, including two women, were charged with conspiring to sell drugs in ”Operation Dark Justice.” In yet another police corruption case, ”Blue Shame,” prosecutors publicly complained that they suspected judges involved in the case were corrupt.
”This is not something new,” said Luis S. Fraticelli, special agent in charge of the FBI’s San Juan office. “This has has been going on in Puerto Rico as long as I can remember.”
In the 1970s, he said, corruption was so rampant that some officers were charged with murder.
”We have had undercover agents pose as drug traffickers who hire corrupt police officers to protect shipments of 30 kilos,” Fraticelli said in a recent interview. “To protect that shipment from point A to point B, one trip is $4,000. If it’s five cops, you’re talking $20,000.
“If we offered enough, they used their police uniforms and their patrol cars to protect that load.”
Law enforcement authorities say while it’s likely that most drug dealers here have a police officer on the payroll, the corruption does not appear to be organized or to reach police brass.
Police Association President José RodrÃguez said ”98 percent” of police officers were honest, and that the department leadership publicizes isolated corruption cases in order to cover up its lack of progress in the fight against crime.
”There are corrupt police in Puerto Rico, but not as much as other cities in the United States,” RodrÃguez said. “These cases are not so frequent, despite our low pay. We are the lowest paid police officers in the entire country.”
Officers make about $26,400 a year, said RodrÃguez, a police captain in Carolina, a municipality near San Juan. He added that in Puerto Rico, sergeants supervise 35 to 30 patrol officers, compared to an average of 10 in the United States.
”It’s impossible to have effective control,” he said.
Toledo said the island’s police department plans to raise the minimum hiring age from 18 to 21 and beef up its screening process to include polygraphs. But he and other authorities agreed that to stop corrupt police, they have to stop drug trafficking. And to do that, they must largely rely on federal agencies because local police are prohibited by law from tapping phone lines, using body recorders or holding suspects without bail.
U.S. Attorney Rosa Emilia RodrÃguez-Vélez said her office has lowered the threshold for the cases federal prosecutors will take. Her office now regularly files gun possession charges and drug cases for low quantities of cocaine in the quest to crack down on street-level drug peddlers.
”I was local assistant D.A. for 10 years. I got to know a lot of officers; their commitment is extraordinary,” she said. “The vast majority — vast majority — are good, decent officers. This is not an indictment of the police force. It’s an indictment against members who misuse their positions.”
CRIME REDUCTION
Law enforcement agencies have formed joint strike forces, which are beginning to show reductions in crime in the pilot cities where they were launched.
”The issue is not the police. The issue is drug trafficking,” she said. “We have a drug trafficking problem and a violent crime problem. The murder rate is very high.”
In 2006, 736 people were murdered in Puerto Rico, a rate about three times higher than the U.S. mainland’s average. By July 15 of this year, 365 people had been murdered.
The year started out with an explosion of violence attributed to a power vacuum left when notorious drug trafficker José ”Coquito” López Rosario was gunned down last summer, and the rival dealer who allegedly ordered him killed, Alex Trujillo was finally captured.
When López Rosario was killed, authorities began investigating his ties to three local senators, one of whom brought López along on a series of prison inspections. Although he was arrested many times, his cases always fell apart in court, said Sergio Rubio Paredes, head of the Puerto Rico Justice Department’s organized crime division.
A justice department top prosecutor lost his job when accused of accepting a Mercedes Benz from López. Although he was cleared of wrongdoing, his contract was not renewed.
”Coquito had a lot of connections,” Toledo said, “including judges.”
López had friends in the police department, too, the superintendent said: His mom provided free catering to police holiday parties.
”We need to attack the roots of the problem,” Rubio said. “In Puerto Rico, we have proven that hiring more police does not work.”
Arubaanse, glad that you’re back here with us.
While we are posting articles. Here’s one from up here in Minnesota.
http://wcco.com/topstories/local_story_197225633.html
My bet is the sporter in Aruba and his buddies have some cell phone video that would be very incriminating….oh yeah, but they all lost their cell phones.
md
And here’s another from the Caribbean.
Remember the thread about the “stolen” Dutch laptop that made it to the Dominican Republic? The one that had info on Natalee’s case and the criminal/drug situation on Aruba, or so we’re told?
Seems that the Dominican Republic has some other issues too.
Of course, we know that Americans can’t fall prey to this, even when they’ve been missing for two years:
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070717/D8QED7NO0.html
Ricky Martin to Do Anti-Trafficking PSAs
Jul 17, 10:34 AM (ET)
GENEVA (AP) - Ricky Martin will appear on Dominican television and radio for the next six months to warn people about human trafficking and sexual exploitation.
Starting Wednesday, the 35-year-old singer will make public service announcements as part of the “Llama y Vive (Call and Live)” counter-trafficking campaign that has already done work in Costa Rica, El Salvador, Nicaragua and Peru.
The ads will publicize a phone line that offers free help and information about trafficking.
Posters and other informational material will be distributed throughout the Dominican Republic, where, according to the Geneva-based International Organization for Migration, both men and women have been trafficked for sexual exploitation.
“According to some reports, more women are trafficked from the Dominican Republic than from any other country in the Western Hemisphere,” said Jemini Pandya of IOM, which is working with Martin’s charitable foundation.
The IOM says Dominican victims of trafficking are often taken elsewhere in the Caribbean or to Latin America or Europe. The organization also has documented cases of minors trafficked within the country for sexual exploitation, usually to tourist destinations on the coast.
Martin, whose hits include “She Bangs,”"Shake Your Bon-Bon” and “Livin’ La Vida Loca,” started the Ricky Martin Foundation to help children in need.
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On the Net:
International Organization for Migration:
http://www.iom.int/
Ricky Martin Foundation:
http://www.rickymartinfoundation.org
Ricky Martin:
http://www.rickymartin.com/
If Dompig would of made that one phone call necessary to allow the equipment to be brought in to complete the underwater search, we would have been that much further along. We could of concentrated heavier on other avenues, eliminating those that have been pursued. Tell ya where I’d like to ram his cell phone!!!!!
Just sent a note of thanks to Tim Miller along with a donation to TexasEquuSearch….please everyone send him a note of thanks and good wishes for his upcoming search, and a donation if you can ..this man is a real hero in my book..I wish him success and God Speed. Meanwhile Dutch get your finger out of the Dyke and repair this damage pronto. JUSTICE FOR NATALEE.
PS I am crossing the pond to UK for a couple of months this week and will keep spreading the word.
Comment re transcrpt (Post #47) to Slutanita Sloop..I wouldn’t be letting that little amoral creep of yours get me cups of coffee ..I’d be scared to death what he might be putting in it!
Arubanese…welcome back. I’m sure the tourists that are there do mention Natalee’s name. But I definitely don’t think it is thought of as an attraction.
Thanks for your feedback, Richard.
I’m trying to keep an open mind, so your points made me wonder: just exactly what does it take for the United States Dept. of State to issue a warning re: travel to what had been considered a “friendly” territory?
I wonder if the State Dept. would respond to such a request for clarification concerning warnings issued?
I’m still holding out for a LOT of hope, Richard!
I think I’d want to hear how Sec. Rice might respond to such a question. I’d want criteria is used, etc. in order for the State Dept. to issue a travel warning on a particular nation.
Clearly, after what has been uncovered, there seems to be just cause for concern for young American women, that - in spite of being THE MOST CAREFUL THAT ANYONE COULD BE - that if the infrastructure is CORRUPT, HOW can ANY AMERICAN BE SAFE THERE?
If crimes against human rights violations are NOT PROSECUTED, HOW could such a territory be deemed safe?
I do wonder how the State Dept. would respond to a request for clarification concerning this particular child and this particular case?
Natalee’s case cannot be considered one where SHE becomes the focal point of study as to the REASONS WHY SHE IS NO LONGER HERE, despite corrupt officials intent on wanting to portray her as everything - EXCEPT - THE VICTIM.
If Aruba advertizes C and C as a local attraction for young people, and there’s Dennis Jacobs, local ALE official, telling the PARENT of a MISSING CHILD to “watch his drink” there because he could be DRUGGED, and we have clear circumstances indicating Aruban polis officials purposefully FAILED TO TAKE ANY ACTION in efforts to allow for what can only be seen as a DESTRUCTION OF EVIDENCE, despite facts of evidence readily available indicating CAUSE FOR SUSPICION to be directed towards - JORAN, DEEPAK, and SATISH ( AND PAULUS), then - given all these circumstances and what transpired in Natalee’s case, it would seem incredulous that the summation of WHAT happened to Natalee could be attributable to “mistakes” on Natalee’s part when the truth is - NATALEE IS NOT HERE TO DEFEND HERSELF, and, testimony by friends indicates: SOMETHING WAS NOT RIGHT ABOUT THE WAY SHE LOOKED.
Add to this, her parents assertions that: GOING INTO A STRANGER’S CAR, NO LESS WITH THREE STRANGE MEN, WOULD BE COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER FOR HER.
Guess what that was followed by, once it was released to the press?
Richard, I do wonder how Sec. Rice might respond to the points you are raising. They seem like fair questions ( regarding how the USA’s government determines WHAT PLACES to place on a TRAVEL WARNING LIST?
I bet the State Dept. would respond if we wrote to them.
I wonder if that would be a good step to take?
Great idea, Kayjay, #107!
I’ve included the address, in the event that you can’t make an on-line donation.
Tim Miller
Texas EquuSearch Mounted SAR Team
P. O. Box 395, Dickinson, TX 77539
Repeatedly, it seems to surface that corrupt officials in Aruba would like to portray Natalee, THE VICTIM of human rights VIOLATIONS, as somehow RESPONSIBLE - for her own kidnapping, gang rape, HEAVY BATTERY AND MURDER, followed by “CONTAINMENT WITH THE DEAD”.
Surely our U.S. State Dept. has more than enough evidence at this point to see that this child’s human rights were violated.
The only explanation for the FAILURE of the ALE polis and prosecutors, and Aruban judges included - failure to take actions that were clearly called for, as prescribed by Aruba’s own laws, can be found in the fact that ALE officials did NOT want Natalee’s case solved, they did not want Natalee’s truth to be told, and they most definitely did NOT want to find Natalee.
The reason WHY Natalee is no longer with us, will not be found through the creation of more lies, obstructions of justice and a posture intent on coverups, but rather,finding the answers and the reasons for WHY Natalee is no longer with us, can be found by going to where the ALE FAILED TO GO, on May 30, 2005 - “IN LIKE COWBOYS” TO THE SLOOT FACTORY.
Only now do I look at K. Janssens remarks of “We can’t go in like cowboys”, referencing the inquiry’s as to WHY the Van der Sloots were not immediately under suspicion (given ALL THE LIES BEING THROWN AROUND BY THEM, AND BY THE OTHER SUSPECTS) which should have immediately led to a FULL SEARCH OF THEIR PROPERTY, and only now, do I see her remark in a new light - perhaps revealing what she truly intended - that being, ‘We can’t go in like cowboys, because that might lead us to the truth and to finding her, and truth and finding Natalee are NOT part of the “NO CORPSE, NO CASE, ‘containment with the dead’plan’, put into action by Mr. Containment with the Dead.
There were NO MISTAKES MADE BY NATALEE except that which was made by EVERYONE who went to Aruba under FALSE PRETENSES GIVEN TO THEM…that being, to actually BELIEVE and to TRUST that they would be SAFE and their HUMAN RIGHTS PROTECTED THERE. THAT WAS A MISTAKE, WHICH CAN BE ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE FALSE INFORMATION PROMOTED ABOUT ARUBA ( “HAPPY PARADISE”), ABSENT THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT ARUBA: AN ISLAND OF CORRUPTION, AND DEPRAVED INDIFFERENCE TO THE VALUE OF THE TOURIST’S HUMAN LIFE, AN ISLAND WHERE PERVERTED, DEPRAVED RAPISTS, KIDNAPPERS, AND MURDERERS ARE PROTECTED IN ORDER TO PERPETUATE THE CHARADE OF ARUBA BEING “SAFE AND HAPPY”.
Natalee was lied to! She went to a local tourist attraction advertized for young people as a ‘fun’place to gather.
Why do the questions concerning Natalee, not surround the fact that THIS IS THE SAME ESTABLISHMENT (c and C)that Amy Bradley was invited into, and she is also missing.
Why are the questions not surfacing regarding WHAT WAS DONE TO NATALEE AT THIS ESTABLISHMENT, that caused her to suddenly go from DANCING and COORDINATED, to appearing to have very heavy eyes and behaving in a manner that was completely OUT OF CHARACTER for her?
COULD IT BE THAT NATALEE’S JUDGEMENT, AND ABILITY TO DEFEND, PROTECT, AND MAKE CRITICAL DECISIONS FOR HERSELF THAT WOULD INSURE HER SAFETY - WERE ALL REMOVED FROM HER THROUGH SOME ARUBAN PREDATORS DRUGGING HER?
IS THIS THE TRUTH BEING HIDDEN, ABOUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENS IN ARUBA?
Is this part of the horrific chain of human rights violations that continue to bind up Natalee’s truth, and which stand to become links leading to MORE VICTIMIZATIONS, MORE HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, AGAINST MORE OF OUR INNOCENT, VICTIMIZED CHILDREN?
Is THIS what we hold out in store for our daughters from the SOUTH should we choose to remain SILENT to this atrocity of human rights violations inflicted upon Natalee whereby, young people are not warned concerning the DANGERS and PREDATORS that lurk on the island DUE TO THE CORRUPT CONDUCT OF ALE OFFICIALS WHO CHOOSE TO FAIL IN RESONDING TO A CHILD’S TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE, BY BEHAVING WITH INTEGRITY AND HONOR, AND INSTEAD, THEY UNILATERALLY CHOOSE TO ADD MORE BRUTALITY TO THE SITUATION THROUGH THEIR PURPOSEFUL, PLOT THAT INCLUDES FAILURE TO ACT?
IS THIS WHAT WE HOLD IN STORE FOR OUR DAUGHTERS? …( HEAVY BATTERY, KIDNAPPING, GANG RAPE, MURDER, AND REPEATED VILE DEPRAVITY THAT INCLUDES DESECRATION OF THEIR BODIES, FOLLOWED BY WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE SLOOT’S “WELCOME” TO ARUBA: “NO CORPSE, NO CASE”?
WHERE IS NATALEE’S TRUTH?
WHERE IS NATALEE’S RIGHT TO JUSTICE?
Thank You Pearl for posting the mailing addy for TIM!~
Pearl (#110) — I’ve written to Condoleezza Rice several times, and to congressmen and the White House more times than I can count, about Natalee’s case.
Only ONCE did I get an answer … from a senator in my home state … who said nothing.
In contrast (to give credit where credit is due), I wrote twice to the Dutch prime minister and once to the Queen of the Netherlands. A lady-in-waiting for the latter sent me a form letter saying that mine had been referred on; the premier (at least, the reply was in his name) sent literate and even (in my view) somewhat sympathetic replies.
Quite by coincidence, I found this last night. My contact at Beth’s foundation didn’t know anything about it.
http://travel.state.gov/law/info/info_629.html
WELFARE/WHEREABOUTS SERVICES ABROAD
Summary: U.S. embassies and consulates help to locate U.S. citizens overseas when relatives or friends are concerned about their welfare or need to notify them of emergencies at home. The Department of State and U.S. embassies and consulates abroad handle over 200,000 welfare and whereabouts inquiries a year.
Privacy Act: The provisions of the Privacy Act require that U.S. citizens over the age of 18 provide a Privacy Act waiver before we can release information about them to third parties.
How to Request a Welfare/Whereabouts Check: Persons in the United States inquiring about the welfare or whereabouts of a U.S. citizen abroad may contact the Department of State, Overseas Citizens Services via telephone at (202) 647-5225. It is also possible to contact the American Citizens Services Section of the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate directly. Telephone and fax numbers for U.S. embassies and consulates are available in our Consular Information Sheets for each country available via the Internet on our home page at http:travel.state.gov or via our automated fax service by dialing (202) 647-3000 from the phone on your fax machine.
What Information to Have Available Before You Call: In order to assist us in locating the U.S. citizen abroad, it is helpful to have the following information available:
Caller’s full name, address, phone number and relationship
Name of the Person abroad
Date and place of birth
Passport number (if known)
Last known address and phone number; itinerary
Reason for their travel/residence abroad (business, tourism, etc.)
Date of last contact
Other points of contact abroad (friends, business associates, hotel, etc.)
For Emergency Family Messages also include:
Nature of the emergency
What you want the person told about the emergency
Name, address and telephone number and relationship of person you wish subject to call after the emergency family message is relayed to them by the U.S. embassy or consulate.
American Citizens Services
Thanks for that information, Richard.
104, MD - very interesting observation you made…
I’ve wondered about that…and couldn’t help but think that given the fact that a man showed up on THE EVENING that Beth arrived on the island, who happened to be someone with communications connections, who very early on just sort of appeared to - kind of ‘help’ the Twitty family, though I’m not really clear on what his ‘help’ accomplished i