Natalee Holloway Investigation, Videos from April 30, 2007 (Bill O’Reilly and Hannity & Colmes)


Greta Van Susteren on Bill O’Reilly

“Lot of people with questionable background hang out on the beach late at night”

What happened to One Happy & Safe Island?

Greta, please just report the news and stop trying to spread your agenda. Why do you insist that Joran Van der Sloot is telling the truth about being on the beach? Also, enough of this Buti has not been investigated or questioned. Greta, just because you did not get access to a police report does not mean it does not exist. Scared Monkeys posted more of the witness and suspect statements than you ever covered on your show. Does that mean that they don’t exist either? 

Greta, you and your producers may want to do some research and you will find the following from the Dr Phil/Kalpoe motion to compel. It would seems that Buti was interviewed, so much for the information you have been told.


(Page 127 of pdf motion to compel doc)

What is more plausible, Aruba sacrificing their economy over an island beach “drunk & drug” bum that is related to an Aruban ex-police chief or a cover up of a Dutch individual who is connected to judges and political officials?

Hannity & Colmes, 4/30/07: Mark Fuhrman video interview.

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  • Comments

    56 Responses to “Natalee Holloway Investigation, Videos from April 30, 2007 (Bill O’Reilly and Hannity & Colmes)”

    1. Carpe Noctem on May 1st, 2007 1:05 am

      Bring Natalee Home!

      Please do all u can KLPD.


    2. Carpe Noctem on May 1st, 2007 1:25 am

      She is coming home!

      Read what Janet said earlier today about

      it happening on God’s Clock. I have not

      one doubt, she will be coming home in some way,



    3. Carpe Noctem on May 1st, 2007 5:19 am

      media coverage slideshow


    4. tex on May 1st, 2007 6:52 am

      i don’t watch greta anymore, nor listen to her. she sold her moral perception of wisdom for television ratings and now she’s an old damp mop legal commenator grasping for crumbs. albeit – the boomarang effect.

    5. realtruth on May 1st, 2007 7:23 am

      when you go to eBay abd type in: “aruba timeshare” you can bid on timeshares that they can’t give away for $400 – ah, the boomarang effect.

    6. Mark on May 1st, 2007 7:30 am

      Being at the other side of the Great Pond I have never seen or heard this Greta lady before. She is being presented as some kind of expert but there are some things that puzzle me:

      1. What’s wrong with her jaw?
      2. She states that KLPD is perhaps just going through some motions before closing this case when the two-year deadline for maintaining Joran as a suspect expires.

      From what I have been reading already last week when they dispatched the Dutch investigators to Aruba (before the search started), the following is going on:

      Aruba has sent the case to the Dutch KLPD marked “cold case” so they didn’t know how to proceed. KLPD reviewed the case and concluded there was enough reason to reopen the investigation. The Aruban prosecutor has reopened and invited the KLPD. This also means that the two-year deadline can be extended now.

      By the way: KLPD are notorious for having “tunnelvision” which means that once they think they know who the killer is they won’t let loose until they get a conviction. In some cases people have been unjustly sentenced because of this, which is a shame, but perhaps it is an advantage when it comes to investigation people that have had two years to get rid of the evidence;-)

      Who let the dogs out?

    7. realtruth on May 1st, 2007 7:32 am
    8. Richard on May 1st, 2007 7:56 am

      We know that the Dutch are concentrating on the vdS property. One imagines they are doing so for a purpose, though whether that is the correct info is not yet known.

    9. MuffyBee on May 1st, 2007 8:10 am

      I’m happy to see that some of the wrong stuff that has been and is being put out in the news is being challenged and refuted by noting documents that can be checked. When disinformation is put out in the news and repeated enough times, it almost appears to become a “fact” in some folks eyes. I don’t just want news fair and balanced. I want it to be the truth, particularly if the newscasters and news stations would just do their homework. No spin.

    10. 10061906 on May 1st, 2007 8:25 am

      To all those who went to Miami…Thank you!!!.
      It’s human beings like you that make a difference in the world. Those who willing give of themselves for others.
      “Sweet Home Alabama” where the skies are so blue,
      “Sweet Home Alabama”,Lord I’m coming home to you.

    11. 10061906 on May 1st, 2007 8:26 am

      Greta you are such a dork!!!!!!!!!!
      Who did you do to get on TV?

    12. KrisG on May 1st, 2007 8:54 am

      Good for you Scared Monkeys. Greta is getting on my nerves. I hope she has someone reading this site for her. As Ted says, she is stuck on stupid.

      When Joran realized there were witnesses saying which way the car drove off–towards his home–he came up with the stupid lie that Natalee wanted to see his house. That doesn’t make sense since she thought he was a student from Holland. This is a fact reported by other MB students. Then he says they never got out of the car. How much can you see over the wall of the VDS compound from sitting in the back seat of the Honda? Totally ridiculous.

    13. joe bear on May 1st, 2007 9:21 am

      We will welcome her home,anytime,anyway.We want justice,but we do want Natalee home

    14. JusticeforNatalee on May 1st, 2007 9:42 am

      Call Greta out on her latest inaccuracies.

    15. Kat_Gram on May 1st, 2007 9:44 am

      A lot of undesirable persons hang out on Greta’s show.
      One is named Joe Tacopina.
      Doesn’t he look de-li-cious ! !
      Seems to have an anger management problem.
      And who is paying Joe ?
      Greta is making commercials for NOT GOING TO ARUBA.
      Good job Gaggy Greta ! !

    16. Donna on May 1st, 2007 9:49 am

      I noticed that too. She is convinced of Joran’s innocence and that is disturbing to me. I thought Greta was above the agenda-based FOX news.
      Is she afraid of Tacopina?

    17. ldstlou on May 1st, 2007 10:16 am

      Have to catch up!! Working too much lately..but my girlfriend called me this morning to tell me there was a story on the local news about Natalee and what is happening in Aruba…was she correct or was it on a National morning talk show? Either way…her story is getting told again which has got to help!!!

    18. txchic on May 1st, 2007 10:18 am

      sorry to rain on the parade here.

      anyone else notice that this is at least the 2nd time a search has been conducted by officials from holland during a long holiday?

      of course they won’t work during the holiday & my bet is they don’t return to holland during that down time. it’s a paid aruban vacation for these people. i doubt they have any new info… just plan some work around a national holiday & you get an all expense paid beach holiday.

      the tax payers over there should really be outraged. of course nothing else has outraged these people. a passive society if i’ve ever seen.

    19. JusticeforNatalee on May 1st, 2007 11:09 am

      I have faith in the Dutch team!

      I think investigators will work methodically and find some forensic link between the main perps and the crimes against Natalee.

    20. Columbo on May 1st, 2007 11:09 am

      to: Nurturer

      re: your earlier question as to why PVDS is no longer sweating

      -is it because this “Dirtyhand,” who can break the alibi & “holds the secrets to the Slanderfoot clan” is somehow now no longer able to break the alibi????

    21. evilive on May 1st, 2007 11:11 am

      Google “Noah’s Ark Replica” to see the latest in Dutch cruise ships to Aruba.

    22. beachwego on May 1st, 2007 11:12 am

      ***Helloooo Everyone***

      I’m back…and catching up on the latest!!!

      However, I can not get into the forum any longer….guess i was deleted as a member…since my absence…but it sure is good to see all of you again…and I am thrilled with the latest turn of events…and the renewed hope & fervor!!

      God Bless Natalee & Her Family!!

      God Bless the Monkeys too!!

      and…TYLER…You Stay Right There Where YOU Are Needed!!!

      Love you all…


      SM:   Hi Beachwego – last time the forum went down we only added back people that had posted.   That’s probably why your ID doesn’t work any more.   Just email Red and ask him to set you back up.  Good to see you!   (klaasend)

    23. Meee on May 1st, 2007 11:13 am

      I can’t stand Greta. I wish O’Reilly had been given the story. He calls it exactly what it is. A coverup right from the beginning. I often wonder if Greta said some slanderous things about the Van Der Sloot family. During her coverage. And she afraid that Tacopina will come after her with a lawsuit. The way she panders to him makes me sick. Like i have said before. I wasn’t here with you guys from the beginning. But Greta actions have been highly suspicious. Since I have gotten aboard. She seems to be very pro Joran. When there is no reason to be.

    24. Meee on May 1st, 2007 11:17 am

      JusticeforNatalee- Thanks for the link. I gave her another one.

    25. evilive on May 1st, 2007 11:28 am

      Just a coincidence that construction started in MAY 2005.
      Do he know in advance he would have to evacuate those suspects in Natalee’s disappearance?

    26. Freebrid on May 1st, 2007 12:00 pm

      Greta is a snake in the grass! She was Beth’s friend now she has turned and is in the snake pit! Joe must have paid her off to side with him. Well I hope she made enough money to get by on cause her ratings are droping and she might find her self out of a job! Maybe the dutch could read through the lines of Jorans book and found what answers they needed to break the case.

    27. ldstlou on May 1st, 2007 12:38 pm

      Just finished watching the video. Before I did, I was thinking that I bet Joran and his family put this in her head before the interview. After listening to her, I really think this is the case. She mentions talking to Joran extensively, and I don’t think she was referring to the interview we all saw. I think Joran and Paulus gave her a song and dance about how they KNEW who did it…boeti..or whatever his name is…but that they couldn’t tell the truth because it would be dangerous. Probably even went on and on about how it was Dompig not them that did the cover up…and Greta bought it hook line and sinker. What a crock!!!

    28. Carpe Noctem on May 1st, 2007 12:52 pm

      Greta Van Sustren: The Timeline!

      Justice for Natalee.

    29. Carpe Noctem on May 1st, 2007 12:56 pm
    30. Pearl on May 1st, 2007 1:52 pm

      “Then the three of us agreed that it was too boring at Carlos and Charlies and that WE WOULD GO TO THE HOUSE.”

      Satish Kalpoe, May 31, 2005

      How interesting that after learning from Satish Kalpoe on May 31 that HE, JORAN and DEEPAK all agreed to “GO TO THE HOUSE” after Carlos and Charlies, that Jan Van der Straaten, and Karin Janssen’s first course of action was to not pursue any warrents for “THE HOUSE” searches to be conducted – despite knowing full well that Natalee was now missing, and that these three men were eye witnessed as taking Natalee away in their car after which, Natalee was never seen again.

      What is the address of that “beach” that Joran took Natalee to against her will?

      Beach location: Is it 17 Montanja?

    31. Miss-Underestimated on May 1st, 2007 2:12 pm

      Did anyone expect any less?

      Infamous words ” I am inclined to believe him”

      I guess sifting thru the lies is not an issue.

    32. IndyDan on May 1st, 2007 2:13 pm

      Being at the other side of the Great Pond I have never seen or heard this Greta lady before. She is being presented as some kind of expert but there are some things that puzzle me:
      1. What’s wrong with her jaw?

      Mark #6 – Several years ago she had her face stretched, after she obtained semi-celeb status for her coverage of the OJ trial. She decided that with all the TV exposurer, the wrinkles had to go.
      Unfortunately when they opened up her head, some very valuable brain cells fell out.

    33. Janet on May 1st, 2007 2:19 pm

      Greta has not been deceived … Greta is not “stuck on stupid”. This woman knows darn well that Joran Van der Sloot was untruthful in his answers in the infamous interview. Greta admitted that she had seen a translation of Joran’s June 13, 2005 declaration but … she was still “inclined to believe” Joran in his denials.
      I contend … the “other side” got to her and … Greta may have possiblly received an incentive to create smokescreens to obscure the truth regarding Joran’s participation in the events encompassing the morning Natalee Holloway went missing.

      Joran Van der Sloot
      On the Record w/ Greta
      March 3, 2006
      VAN SUSTEREN: OK, and I think there’s a declaration, and correct me if I’m wrong, of the 13th of June. It’s in Dutch and I’VE SEEN A TRANSLATION. I can’t read Dutch. But I think that it says that you say that Deepak murdered Natalee is that wrong?
      VAN DER SLOOT: No, that’s not. I never said anything like that.
      VAN SUSTEREN: Never said that.

    34. Janet on May 1st, 2007 2:27 pm

      30. Pearl

      In his declaration … Joran contradicts Satish’s account in regards to the decision to the the VDS residence.
      Joran Van der Sloot
      Suspect Statement – June 9, 2005
      Then Satish, Natalee and myself walked to Deepak’s car. Natalee and I walked hand in hand. When we arrived at the car Deepak was already waiting for us. We got into the car and before Deepak drove off I told Deepak and Satish that Natalee wanted to go to my house but that I could not take her there because my father and brothers were home. After I told Deepak and Satish this they said it was OK. Then I told the girl that I could not take her to my house but that I could come to her hotel room. She answered me that she did not want to go to her hotel room and that she wanted to go to the North coast to watch the sharks.

    35. GutFeeling on May 1st, 2007 2:38 pm

      What if Greta is inclined to believe that Joran is not responsible for the disappearance of Natalee Holloway because she believes that Paulus van der Sloot is responsible. With the definition if dissappearance , meaning the actual disposal of a body.

    36. Janet on May 1st, 2007 2:54 pm

      35. Gutfeeling
      The issue is not whether Greta believes whether Joran is guilty or not. The issue is … Joran lied over and over again in the interview yet … Greta stated she was “inclined to believe” him.

    37. Carpe Noctem on May 1st, 2007 2:59 pm


      I think she is currently too busy

      talking about that WALLOPING


      Bow-Tie, Booty, or Boeti…

      or whatever his name is!!!!

      (Gerold Dompig’s relative, they all are.)


      >GRETA… WHAT ARE YOU DOING????? -j4n


    38. Pearl on May 1st, 2007 3:01 pm

      Janet # 34 …

      Did Joran’s sharks all wear shorts like Joran claimed to wear, on the night that he confessed to murdering and burying Natalee?

      Maybe Joran can answer that since he knows where to find all the sharks in Aruba.

    39. Kat_Gram on May 1st, 2007 3:12 pm

      Hey GutFeeling, I remember a Greta quote where she says she met the Sloots and she thought they were ” nice ” ppl.
      In one of the early staements, the night that the HT’s first came to Aruba when they ALL went to the HI, Paulus was the first to point out that they were ” beach bums ” at the beach.
      I don’t seriously think that they set out to do any thing more criminal than have sex with Natalee with or without her consent. Things went bad as in ” something bad happened “. They could not just dump her or leave her as then ” they will see that sh*t”. Couldn’t take her back anywhere without a fear of discovery and evidence that the girl was assaulted in a criminal fashion with DNA that would lead back to them. Else they would have. Couldn’t take her to a medical facilty or call 911 either for the same reasons. I believe that is where Paulus steps in. He makes a decision to ” do anything for his son ” because Joran is the important one to him. Paulus did everything he could to derail any investigation/search that would point back at Joran. Why he even obtained a lawyer named Mr. Ooman that they all went to on June 3, 2005 for advice. Deepak and Satish were somehow convinced or threatened that they had to stick to the HI drop off story. This tied the three together so that Joran was not alone with Natalee. Even if Deepak and Satish did nothing more than drive the car they were still parties to a major crime. Being over 18, they would get as much jail time as Joran.
      I could go on and on but later…I most likely will.

    40. Miss-Underestimated on May 1st, 2007 3:15 pm

      Pearl now that you mention about the clothes, remember they found security clothing on the beach, weren’t they testing that for DNA?

    41. kittykc on May 1st, 2007 3:19 pm

      Even Joran admits he’s a liar. Once a person gets in the habit of lying it only gets easier to look you straight in the face and do it convincingly. I believe that’s what happened Joran being interviewed by Greta. Someone get out the “hook, line and sinker”, Joran’s a pathological liar.

    42. Miss-Underestimated on May 1st, 2007 4:19 pm

      Did anyone listen to the Nova interview with Pauley?
      I swear I heard oinking.

    43. ayfit on May 1st, 2007 4:29 pm

      Take note FOX. Greta is a cancer to your co. She has betrayed Beth in a big way. Greta sat with Beth across the table with Paulis while sweating profusely in the Sloot home. One can only imagine how Beth must feel. Beth has been slammed again and again. She doesn’t need this from Greta.

    44. Observer on May 1st, 2007 5:12 pm

      Bernie Grimm part of Greta’s Round Table said he is guarenteed sold and positive about Joran based on his interview with Greta.

      Greta wants to focus in on the crack head beach bum who even the ALE know is FOS!!! Has she even bothered to do any research on this case??

    45. Pearl on May 1st, 2007 5:44 pm

      Yes, Miss U, they were “testing” those “security guard clothes” that one of Joran’s shark friends perhaps planted for him on the beach (?)(but that would have to have occured after the two innocent Black men were selected to target in order to frame them for murdering Natalee).

      I suppose the “test” results of those “security guard’s clothing” ended up in the same place as the luminol tests they never conducted on all that BLOOD that those honorable FBI agents eye witnessed inside of Deepak’s car.

      Isn’t it strange, Miss U how neither Jan van der Straaten nor Karin Janssen ever wondered WHOSE blood that was that was seen by FBI agents, on the inside of DEEPAK’S car – the same car that Deepak, Joran and Satish took Natalee away in after she was rendered completely helpless?

      Didn’t Karen Janssen and Jan van der Straaten wonder HOW Joran could believe that Natalee had been murdered TWICE,(once by Joran and once by Deepak) since Joran confessed on JUNE 10, 2005 that he had murdered and buried Natalee
      ( as Chief Dompig tell us), only then for Joran to suggest THREE DAYS LATER on June 13th, that Deepak was the one to rape and murder Natalee?

      Why did Karin Janssen and Van der Straaten never ask Joran, Deepak and Satish HOW MANY TIMES it was that Natalee was raped – since, they had two reports of Natalee being murdered coming from the jaws of Joran and Joran was raising the belief that it was Deepak who had raped and murdered Natalee AFTER Joran confessed that HE murdered her?

      Did Karin Janssen and Van der Straaten think it important to ask: WHAT HOUSE DID YOU GO TO AFTER CARLOS AND CHARLIES?

      Did Janssen and van der Straaten think it critical to go and immediately SEARCH that “HOUSE” that Satish spoke of in his May 31 statement – particularly since we know what a sack of lies that Joran, Deepak and Satish were all telling by May 31, with the “We dropped her off right in front of the lobby entrance” lie, that they were all busy telling…(and this was clear by 5/31/05), so then what made the “WE DECIDED TO GO TO THE HOUSE” statement unworthy as a POINT OF INTEREST to PURSUE,in “leaving no stone unturned” in the biggest LIE of all – that there was ever a “SEARCH” to FIND Natalee?

      You’d think that Karin Janssen would have had “THE HOUSE” and “THE CAR” on her “places to search for Natalee list” in that big “building up” of an investigation that she and Van der Straaten were so busy with during those first ten days of not searching any property,nor interrogating Joran, Deepak and Satish…

      I think I’m starting to understand the language of Janssen, Dompig and Straaten….

      “We dropped her off right in front of the lobby entrance” – means:
      – right ahead of the lobby entrance
      – right across from the lobby entrance
      – right across from the lobby entrance and AWAY from all those cameras that Deepak says the Holiday Inn doesn’t have.
      – in the back of the Lobby entrance
      – in the parking lot
      – on the beach

      And all of the above means…. ‘she could have come in some other way’ as Jan van der Straaten tells the press, THREE DAYS AFTER he already learned that Natalee was NEVER dropped off at all at the hotel LOBBY ENTRANCE, because van der Straaten already knew that Natalee was never brought back to the hotel.

      Holiday Inn hotel eye witnesses who confirmed that no drop off ever took place, means…. Lets do absolutely nothing for ten days, so that Joran, Deepak and Satish can get busy practicing their lies.

      Hotel surveillance that clearly proves what cruel liars Joran, Deepak and Satish are means… these “BOYS” are ‘students’, and they are “witnesses”, whose statements were destroyed so that they won’t be held as lying “witnesses” (well, at least so that JORAN won’t be held as a lying “witness”).

      “I left her on the beach” … means… all my other lies didn’t work, so I’ll use this “I left her on the beach” lie, so that I can claim that I have no idea what happened after she was murdered and buried – and kept hidden from all her suffering loved ones whose only wish was to have their beloved child’s body back – dead or alive, so that they could honor her with a dignified burial and NOT the desecration she was subjected to at the hands of Joran who confessed to BURYING HER.

      “No one is above the law” … and “we will leave no stone unturned” … means… Let’s do a “pr” stunt and call it a search, and make it appear that we are very concerned, so no one will notice all the lie-rehearsals, evidence destruction and corruption going on.

      Natalee Holloway was betrayed.
      Beth and Dave’s trust was betrayed.

      And ALL the honorable citizens of Aruba who know how corrupt this whole non-invesigation was – were all betrayed by the corrupt judges and dishonorable, immoral men and women who thought nothing of trampling on this defenseless child, trampling on Natalee’s good and honorable name, and her loving, generous spirit, while savagely tormenting her loving family who were completely powerless at the hands of such vicious savagery.


    46. txchic on May 1st, 2007 5:55 pm

      okay i thought this was an adult blog site?

      anyone who wishes to trash greta for her views have every right. she’s a big girl & i’m sure she can take it. how ever personal slanders are going too far imo.

      joe t. has threatened to sue anyone who slanders his client on t.v. or internet. he’s single handily put a lid on the case.

      now the dutch team are enjoying a little aruban vacation at taxpayers expense. in another month it will be over. imo we’ll only get the truth when one of the three suspects gets wasted & brags.

    47. Allan K on May 1st, 2007 6:18 pm

      Greta does and says what she wants too! She has no credible evidence to believe Joran its more like who would believe him.
      When a person acts that stupid the only thing I know to do is ignore them and if the facts are wrong tell them. Maybe Joe offered her a bribe to speak up for Joran, which I do not think that is beyond Joe T. a mafia lawyer. Anyway I will will her show alone.

    48. Carpe Noctem on May 1st, 2007 6:30 pm

      She is coming home in some form soon, it is not just a show. imo

    49. Carpe Noctem on May 1st, 2007 7:00 pm

      joe t. has threatened to sue anyone who slanders his client on t.v. or internet. he’s single handily put a lid on the case.


      Well, that is a joke and a half!!! Joe can’t even

      manage to single >handedly PLAY WITH HIMSELF!

      … Joe Tacky-pina…

      Is a two-bit, discount, greaseball, punk a$$,

      >jaded NY Attorney with expensive Italian shoes, and a

      deep inky blackness in his heart.

      If I met him on the sidewalk

      today… I would politely walk around him,

      giving him wide berth, like the wafting, heaping

      pile of dootie that I KNOW HIM TO BE.

      When Joeseph Tacopina threatened to

      sue those that slander & libel Joran Van der sloot,

      the people that I know, laughed their nards off, quite

      frankly! Joe was nothing before the Natalee Holloway Case,

      today HE IS EVEN LESS. His stock went down.

      …& if u have a few more minutes, I will tell ya just how I really feel. -j4n

    50. Observer on May 1st, 2007 7:23 pm

      Good Post Pearl..

      Once again I don’t know how they are gonna solve this case with the obvious coverup by Key Aruban Officials.

      Paul van der Sloot said in a phone conversation with Peter de Vries that they had a lot to tell but they will not do that just now because of people involved who could be hurt by this information

    51. Meee on May 1st, 2007 8:14 pm

      I think I remember reading here on the site. That Van der Stratten was quoted in a newspaper or on TV saying that 3 witnesses have come foward point fingers at the security guards. His statement proves the punks lied as witnesses. Or better yet. Lied as witnesses to hinder the investigation. And that means 6 years in the slammer. Steve Croes would fall under the same unbrella

    52. dennisintn on May 1st, 2007 8:51 pm

      so what is the statute of limitations on “lying as a witness”? are they quietly letting them get away with charging them for at least this offense?

    53. Frank on May 1st, 2007 10:19 pm

      Carpe…come on my man….dont hold back…..tell us how you really feel about Joe Tacopenishead.

      LOL…You GO guy

    54. 10061906 on May 2nd, 2007 12:03 am

      I guess I’ll post it again here.
      A type of defamation. Slander is an untruthful oral (spoken) statement about a person that harms the person’s reputation or standing in the community. Because slander is a tort (a civil wrong), the injured person can bring a lawsuit against the person who made the false statement. If the statement is made via broadcast media — for example, over the radio or on TV — it is considered libel, rather than slander, because the statement has the potential to reach a very wide audience.
      · “Defamatory,” that is, it harmed your reputation (as opposed to being just offensive or insulting)
      · Published to at least one other person
      · About you specifically
      · Made with the intent to fault you
      For most people, being described to others as “ugly” may be offensive or insulting, but it doesn’t damage your reputation. But if you’re a supermodel who makes her living based on her looks, being described as “ugly” by the head of a modeling agency could be defamatory.
      Different standards of fault apply, depending on who you are. If you’re a public official or figure, such as a politician, celebrity or some other well-known person, you’ll have to prove you were defamed with “actual malice.” You’ll have to show that the person defaming you knew the statement he or she was making was false or recklessly disregarded whether or not it was false.
      If you’re not a public figure, you’ll only have to prove that the person defaming you was negligent, failing to act with due care considering the circumstances.
      However with all the notoriety about becoming a judge and his son writing a book actually places these persons on a celebrity level. Mr Tacopina has to provide evidence and proof that these remarks were FALSE and actually caused harm to his clients. By the way these are the general laws of the USA; Aruba only has laws against the victim and her family. Under the circumstances I don’t think Joe wants any of his clients in a court of law; either as the plaintiff or defendant.
      So why hang around Joe?

    55. Meee on May 2nd, 2007 11:31 am

      I don’t know dennisintn. The Dutch law firm I was corresponding with through e-mails. Was very helpful as far as Dutch law went. Our e-mail correspondence went sour when I brought up something about Karin Jannsen. They never e-mailed back. I sent them numerous e-mails after this, but they never responded again. I hate to say it. But, I haven’t been that motivated to start e-mailing others Dutch Law firms over the internet.

    56. Francis on May 7th, 2007 7:42 pm

      Well, I don’t know if Natalee will ever be found but one thing is sure. She met with foul play on Aruba and whoever was involved is still running around there free to do it again and with greater confidence since he/they got away with it the first time. Until this is resolved and the truth known, it beats the heck out of me why any young person would go to Aruba for any reason. The sick people involved in this are still out there somewhere free to do it again. They say that the first time is the hardest. Who will be the next vicitm? An aggressive “Boycott Aruba” campaign might get more official attention and maybe some of the bystanders with information to come forward to bring the culprits finally to justice.

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