Natalee Holloway Investigation, “On The Record,” … Julia Renfro and Dave Holloway


Interview with Aruba Today Editor & Chief, Julia Renfro

“One of the suspicious locations would be the Van der Sloot home since all three boys, all three suspects claim that they actually went to the home but they never got out of the car so that would be a location they would need to search”. (Julia Renfro)

How believable is it that they would drive to the Van der Sloot home and never get out of the car? The question that should arise is, why did they change their mind if that was the case.

 Interview with Dave Holloway

Greta Van Susteren: “In terms of Joran, Deepak and Satish, what questions would you like to put directly to them?”

Dave Holloway: “Well obviously I would want them to tell the truth and disclose you know what happened to Natalee.”

What a novel concept … telling the truth. If that had been done in the beginning by all three suspects Aruba would never be in the predicament they are.

If you liked this post, you may also like these:

  • Natalee Holloway: Dave Holloway and Peter R. De Vries Discussing the Joran Tapes on Nancy Grace
  • Julia Renfro Pod-casting Discussing the Natalee Holloway Disappearance with C-Band Talk Network
  • Dave Holloway; Joran needs to talk or Someone needs to come forward.
  • Dave Holloway; “I’m never going to give up”. Going back to Aruba.
  • Dave Holloway … With Greta Van Susteren, Corruption in Paradise.

  • Comments

    83 Responses to “Natalee Holloway Investigation, “On The Record,” … Julia Renfro and Dave Holloway”

    1. on May 1st, 2007 11:48 pm

      I’m fed up with Greta and her Boeti connection. I also can’t take listening to Rufro. I don’t blame Jossy for being upset with Greta, but that means anyone who watches her show is now left with Rufro.

    2. beachwego on May 1st, 2007 11:49 pm

      Lots of discussion inside the forum about Deepak’s car…tinted windows or not. If you listen to the podcast Rob posted today about TJ Ward….you will here him say that the wrong car was sent to Holland for testing. It’s interesting….sorry i didnt save the url.

    3. Carpe Noctem on May 2nd, 2007 12:21 am

      > Home, it is time.


    4. Carpe Noctem on May 2nd, 2007 12:23 am
    5. Mike on May 2nd, 2007 12:43 am

      PVS is a lot of things but totally stupid is not one of them. Surely is has enough sense in two years to get rid of any evidence at his house.

    6. 10061906 on May 2nd, 2007 12:43 am

      Question: Someone asked if it is illegal to write boycott aruba on US currency. Basically no: As long as it does not alter the intent of the bill, in otherwords change it from a five to a ten or change any of the wording etc.
      How many times have you given a cashier a $10-$20-$50 or a $100 bill and they run a marker across it to see if it is genuine and not conterfeit. That line is now permenant. They would have to arrest thousands. The fact that you are drawing lines with a marker that happen to spell BOYCOTT; O’ well.

    7. Observer on May 2nd, 2007 2:16 am

      Paul Van Der Sloot’s smirks and comments show a very confident man. Not only does he think he is smarter than all involved but he knows his corrupt buddies in the Aruban Govt back him up.

      He is far ahead of these Boys and Girls from the KLPD that are on vacation digging up his back yard. At least that is what he called them in realty they are 32 highly trained Investigators from Holland. He knows he hid Natalee’s body and she will never be found in Aruba. He looks like he is some arrogant,deceitfull criminal saying catch us if you can.

    8. sirensong on May 2nd, 2007 3:16 am

      Excellent point Observer. That’s why most of us hate him so much. He reminds me of Scott Peterson. Like him, PVDS and his psychotic offspring will wind up in a jail cell too. I am a firm believer that this kind of arrogance does not go unpunished. Somehow, someway, he will be the one grieving. I just hope it is soon.

    9. Richard on May 2nd, 2007 6:37 am

      The media circus is in full swing again, with all the talking heads rushing to chime in. The idea that Julia Renfro is trying to butt in is just sickening. I don’t watch any of the TV shows … I’m content to monitor the news reports and see if this search comes to anything.

      As always, boycott Aruba. As if your life depended on it.

    10. tex on May 2nd, 2007 7:19 am

      the real tragedy happened when older adults decided that is was in their own best interest to ignore what really happened that night and try and “white wash” the whole deal with a murder cover-up

    11. Miss-Underestimated on May 2nd, 2007 7:27 am

      What happened to Julia? Did I detect some reserve with her statements?

    12. Fools Gold on May 2nd, 2007 8:18 am

      The expertise of the vdS clan at avoiding providing evidence to the police combined with the utter naive responses of the Holloway family members probably makes this case unsolvable without extraordinary measures being taken. I had expected such measures to be taken by now but it seems not to have happened.

    13. Michael on May 2nd, 2007 8:27 am

      Why doesn’t Greta or any of the other so called journalists ever ask the obvious question? Why have they waited 2 years to do something that should have been done on day one?

      They still seem to be playing softball with Renfro, Tacopino, the suspects, and LE. Playing Mr. niceguy has accomplished nothing in 2 years. IMO

    14. Michael on May 2nd, 2007 8:30 am

      Also why is Greta still inclined to believe Joran when once again he says he lied about the time he spent with Natalee…now its 3 hours instead of the hour or so he told Greta…He lied to her face and she still believes him?…IMO she must be an idiot or made a hell of a deal with the devil to get his interview.

    15. joe bear on May 2nd, 2007 8:34 am

      i thought Julia was a snake,but she has eyelashes,so she is not a reptile.Arrogence before fall,paul

    16. minnesota dad on May 2nd, 2007 9:31 am

      #7 and 8,

      I think the current Paulus schtick and his unprofessional and normally unwise animosity towards the KLPD; as well as the KLPD’s unprofessional reading and laughing at Joran’s book done on PVDS compound (which Paulus heard even though he wasn’t around all day)….is a set-up to try and make it believable that the KLPD were not biased and overturned every stone on Aruba. All part of a script to turn the case cold in 30 days (the Dutch aren’t going to keep 20-30 investigators there for a long period….my bet is half of them go home within a week, and the other half within the next 45 days….case closed).

      The fact alone that the KLPD had to search the compound two years after it should have been searched shows the depth of the cover-up. Without retracting Karin Janssen’s letter stating Paulus was ‘no longer a suspect’, the KLPD is just there for their suntans.

      Crow pie is ready and waiting to be eaten when the KLPD does the right thing and starts bringing folks down. Psst…here’s a hint Aruba: 1) Bring the Kalpoe’s in for kidnapping, drugging, and rape. Let them sing like canaries or get their seven years. Perhaps sentencing will be lighter if the turn state’s evidence.


    17. Freebrid on May 2nd, 2007 10:22 am

      #7 you are so right, Paulass has that smurk face that makes you want to just rap your hands around his throat and squizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!! Beth & Dave have been to nice, I on the other hand would be in jail right now and Joran, Paulass, and K2 brothers, well lets say trash needs to be in a land field as far under as possible!!

    18. Quinne on May 2nd, 2007 10:43 am

      #2… Yes I have thought for a long time there was a “switch-a-roo” with evidence concerning Deepaks car. That FBI agent saw blood in Deepaks car IMO. Natalees blood in Deepaks car would have been too much to cover-up. It HAD to be switched.

    19. Melissa on May 2nd, 2007 11:06 am

      I cannot listen to Julia Renfro’s irritating voice. I am tired of hearing her say how much money Aruba has spent on the Natalee Holloway “vanishment”. I lived in Aruba and I know more about Julia than I care to. For instance, her children are fathered by different men – the last being her married black boy friend. She should just keep her mouth shut and perhaps take a look in the mirror.

    20. kitty on May 2nd, 2007 11:26 am

      The boys never had to get out of the car at the VDS compound, the deed had been done… she’s not there ~ check the car(s) again, KLPD ~ you’ll find what your looking for there as well as evidence at the VDS compound ~ it’s there… keep looking KLPD/Forensics experts, you’ll find it.

    21. nonesuche on May 2nd, 2007 11:34 am

      Melissa please keep posting, we’d like to hear how much you on Aruba think of JR’s journalistic skills and integrity, or the lack thereof?

    22. Stranger on May 2nd, 2007 11:41 am

      My Botie is over the ocean
      My Botie is over the sea
      My Botie is over the ocean
      O bring back my Botie to me.

      Bring back, bring back
      Bring back my Botie to me, to me
      Bring back, bring back
      O bring back my Botie to me.

      Sounds like Greta is trying to save her ass! :O

    23. buckeye on May 2nd, 2007 11:41 am

      What do you think the Ho’s real interest is in this case? Why does she post so much misinformation and hate regarding Natalee and her family?? What is her motive?? TIA

    24. SUPER DAVE on May 2nd, 2007 11:46 am

      MELISSA: how do you think she acquired the name “JULIA RENT
      HO ?

    25. Stranger on May 2nd, 2007 11:52 am

      I think there might be about 16 Renfro’s. One for each occasion….

    26. evilive on May 2nd, 2007 11:59 am

      Minnesota Dad: I hate to put the proverbial pin to your bubble; but it ain’t gonna happen.
      Aruba has permitted this atrocity and cover up and the Netherlands has condoned it. I would bet it goes all the way up to the Queen Bee. They will say that they tried to solve the case but in essence they don’t give a sh-t. They are only interested in the tourist dollar and protecting the a$$ess of those responsible, bury Natalee’s memory and get on with life. The Netherlands does not want to lend any more florins to Aruba; so whatever it takes to make it go away; just do it!
      There is documentation and enough said to bring anyone of the pimps to trial but Aruba does not want that to happen. The prosecution Office does not want it to happen. It would IMO show Paulus as the guilty party in Natalee’s disappearance. As a former employee of that office they will not admit that one of their boys went bad. They won’t prosecute the Kalpoes either because during a trial what they know will help bring down the house of cards.
      Get Satish off the island and drill him.
      Find Koen and drill him.
      Find the pictures Freddie took of Natalee.
      Find Guido and drill him.
      Find Geoff and drill him.
      Find Michael and drill him.

      Paulus now is untouchable; put pressure on Anita.
      IMO there is our answer.

    27. JusticeforNatalee on May 2nd, 2007 12:38 pm

      “…They are only interested in the tourist dollar…”

      That is EXACTLY why they need to prosecute and convict the perps.

    28. Miss-Underestimated on May 2nd, 2007 1:13 pm

      LOL Stranger

      Blink, Blink, Ummm, Errr, ahhh, blah, Blink, Blink,
      Ummm. Speaking Code to Pauley.

      MAN UP

    29. Time for Justice on May 2nd, 2007 1:51 pm

      I cannot listen to Julia Renfro’s irritating voice. I am tired of hearing her say how much money Aruba has spent on the Natalee Holloway “vanishment”. I lived in Aruba and I know more about Julia than I care to. For instance, her children are fathered by different men – the last being her married black boy friend. She should just keep her mouth shut and perhaps take a look in the mirror.

      Comment by Melissa | May 2, 2007, 11:06 am

      Sounds like Julia..But she is far more of a pig than that. She really got a kick lying about the Blue eyed dutch boy and writing fiction about Natalee being on other islands. Her Job was to lie,confuse and make up complete fiction about what happened to Natalee. She is a complete ditbag who should be locked up for lying about a missing girl and spreading malicious rumors.

    30. Carpe Noctem on May 2nd, 2007 2:15 pm

      > Paulus, Deepak, Satish, and Incubus Goon Boy

      could be thrown in the clink overnight!!!! (& should)

      MD is right about the fact all agreements

      should be null, void, and revoked.

      The investigation should start

      over to wipe the slate clean.

      The right decision maker / person in power

      can and SHOULD DO THAT! It could happen

      within hours if the right person got a hold of this.

      > It is the responsible thing to do!

      If there is one thing all can agree

      on, it is the fact that the investigation has been a

      complete travesty. Joran, Paulus, Dirtpack, Satish,

      and Steve Croes should be raided and snatched at 5 am


      STYLE.’ > To President and Mrs. Bush, I have a hard time

      understanding why you will not speak out or help with this.

      You have two beautiful daughters that are Natalee’s age.

      It seems to me, if anybody could relate as

      to what Natalee Holloway’s

      family is going through, it’d be you.

      BTW- Just saying you have two daughters, & I feel your

      pain… is not helping.

      ACTION, we need A-C-T-I-O-N.

      Why soooo silent? PLEASE HELP!!!


      Bring Nat Home

      Boycott ARUBA!

    31. beel on May 2nd, 2007 2:20 pm

      Investigation Complete at van der Sloot Home

      Last Edited: Wednesday, 02 May 2007, 12:28 PM CDT
      Created: Wednesday, 02 May 2007, 12:28 PM CDT

      FOX’s Devan Walsh has the latest from Aruba
      BIRMINGHAM, Ala (WBRC-TV — Investigators returned to work today in the search for Natalee Holloway. Investigators told FOX6 that they had completed their search of the van der Sloot home and that no human remains were found. FOX’s Devon Walsh has more from Aruba…


      SM:   Old news – been posted several times.   Yes, at the moment the search is complete and no human remains were found.   I imagine they are still testing soil samples and other evidence taken from the home though.   (klaasend)

    32. Andrew on May 2nd, 2007 2:25 pm

      I’m looking for “Ihearshango”….

    33. Carpe Noctem on May 2nd, 2007 2:26 pm



    34. Carpe Noctem on May 2nd, 2007 2:44 pm
    35. minnesota dad on May 2nd, 2007 2:56 pm


      Nice point on bringing in Anita for questioning. Paulus is untouchable by design and abuse of he system, but what about Anita.

      I did not see anywhere in the “Dr. Phil” memo’s anything on Anita being interviewed. Seems to me, if she hasn’t been interviewed the KLPD should march right over and bring her in for questioning. Would be pretty fascinating to get her take on what went on…and she is fair game to question.

      Will the KLPD question Anita??? Of course not….they are not interested in solving this murder either. They had to put this show on before closing the case to make it look like they looked under every stone.



    36. evilive on May 2nd, 2007 2:56 pm

      Andrew: Shango died on Novemeber 17th, 2005.

    37. Carpe Noctem on May 2nd, 2007 3:14 pm


      I am sure there has to be some sort

      of Aruban fashion law that Anita has broken

      muliple times.

      That has to be felonious in Aruba, RIGHT!?!?


      >Don’t wear white after labor day.

      >Checkers & stripes, why they don’t go together sometimes.

      >Don’t wear garden toad green Keebler Elfin Capri hotpants
      & your skankiest neon purple ho heels to a Bar Mitzvah…

      …ya know there’s more,

      but I’ll break for now.

      KLPD > You need to bust that industrial strength, dump truck hiney load. She’s a liar, liar with her Keebler Elfin pantaloonies on fire!!! Yep, that is what she is.

    38. beel on May 2nd, 2007 3:19 pm

      You really need to read before you talk.



      SM:   Beel/Paul – why don’t you go back and post these updates at FOB.   We are able to listen to the news and paste reports too you know.  (klaasend)

    39. Miss-Underestimated on May 2nd, 2007 3:27 pm

      I hope the KLDP talks to Michael Dompig, I have been asking Mr. Dompig for months, why after Michael made a boo boo statement to the press, did Gerald Dompig change his mind on what happened to Natalee. Mr. Dompig, you and your son also need to MAN UP….Tell the truth… what about the legacy that you are leaving your childern and grandchildren? The Dompig that help cover up or the Dompig that helped correct and bring Natalee home to her family.

    40. juuust me on May 2nd, 2007 6:30 pm

      Well since I am not allowed to post in the forum, I will just say it here.. ANNA!! You just freaked me out about the Deepak comments.. Where is this comment about the so called sexual activity? Was it said in those emails to ****? I have forgotten. BTW, a lot was said to so call mess up the investigation, and that is totally in character, trust me.
      I don’t recall him saying anything about the hand down the pants way early on. Are you saying they are in the **** emails? I’m kinda confused but you definitely have my attention now, lol.

    41. juuust me on May 2nd, 2007 6:35 pm

      Oh my, okay my question was answered. WOW you guys.
      Think I better rethink a few things.

      ( I love talking to myself) ;)

    42. Stranger on May 2nd, 2007 7:02 pm

      Those comments taken from the statements are interesting and would be incriminating in the real world, but I can’t help but wonder what difference it makes in Aruba. These guys have made many statements and they change them as needed. All Deepak would have to do is make another statement to cancel out the previous statement. Frickin’ Amazin’!

    43. Maggie on May 2nd, 2007 8:03 pm

      If John Croes said Deepak told him on Monday, May 30, 2005 between 2:40 and 3:00am that Natalee put her hands down his pants.. and Deepak said he just said that to frustrate or mess up the investigation, that’s very telling.. No investigation going on at that time, because NOONE knew Natalee was missing except the ones who did it at that time, nor was there any investigation at 2:40am on May 30th.

      Deepak’s June 13th statement

      To your question as to who John Charles CROES is, where he lives and how often I have chatted to him on “MSN”, I can say the following.
      The afore mentioned John lives with his whole family in Miami. I have known him since school. We were together at the MAVO. On Monday Mai 30th 2005 I had chatted with John from about 02:40 to 03:30 hours. We didn’t chat continually. From time to time I went and watched some TV. But I am sure that he was online during the time-frame I just mentioned above here.

      Deepak’s June 29th statement.

      You are telling me that John Charles CROES has stated that I wrote while I was chatting with him that I had written that the girl had put her hands in/down my pants, I can say the following. I did this to frustrate/mess up the investigation. I wanted to direct the focus of the police on myself and Joran because we were afraid that Satish would get the details wrong with regard to the “Holiday Inn” story. I was almost certain that our telephone conversations were being taped and I was certain that my computer was being monitored too.

      The emails of Deepaks were June 5th, 6th and 7th.. In his June 29th statement he says he figured his computer was monitored and his phone taped… Joran also told him that on May 31st, so Deepak was well aware he was probably monitored according to him, so I don’t put much faith in what he said in the emails. It was all for show more or less.

      On your question what made me think that the police would be monitoring our phones, I can say the following. I thought this might happen earlier and Joran had said the same thing to me on Tuesday May 31st 2005*. The purpose of the chat traffic was to help the police and the Office of the DA with regard to the investigation so that they could see that I was indeed home in the night from Sunday to Monday.

      So many conflicting stories and lies…

    44. Waterboy (Jerry) on May 2nd, 2007 8:16 pm


      You have ugly, thinning, p-s-colored hair that looks like s-t. Your facial muscles are starting to sag with age, and your nose looks abnormally large. You could use a new tube of Pepisident so you can wonder where the yellow went. Sorry, Julia, I know the truth can sometimes be a painful, especially to an aging artifact as you.


      Palus did it to us again. You can tell by that smirky, Joran look on his face. I think we were set up from the beginning. Tim Miller may be our only hope when he goes back in June. The tipoffer may very well have been Paulus himself. He finally cleaned everything up, and wanted more insulation.


    45. Carpe Noctem on May 2nd, 2007 8:20 pm


      You are right, it is very telling. Hammer pumped

      out a post about that one 3 – 6 months back, I think.

      It is one more reason why the RESET button needs to be hit

      in this case, and the KLPD PROS need to

      take it from the top!

      I do not see how any person in their right mind could shut

      the door on this case. It has been purposely f’d ever so

      badly… it stinks to high heaven. Nobody with 2 brain cells

      to rub together could possibly want to close this case

      after what has transpired.


    46. maria on May 2nd, 2007 8:20 pm

      Part of me thinks that family will get answers but the other part does not. Not sure if it is another dog and pony show. I hope not for the family’s sake. All 3 are guilty but is Holland willing to foget past ties and punish the guilty? Someone or something is protecting them. Just my opinion. Plus, if I was innocent you could tear down my house to clear me. And I would have participated in the searches and let my house be searched. I would have not let everyone search and not be a part of it(and sweated heavily). I do believe the truth will come out one day. Hopefully soon.

    47. Stranger on May 2nd, 2007 8:20 pm

      However, under Article 13, Sub-Section 666, Paragraph B.S of the Aruban criminal code one can find the “I lied and that’s the truth” clause, which immediately exonerates anyone that invokes the phrase while passing unmarked florins to the investigating officer.

    48. Stranger on May 2nd, 2007 8:35 pm

      Has anyone here ever spent a few minutes looking at Aruba Today and the Image, something or other, publication Renfro is involved with? Those aren’t exactly hard news type publications. Aruba Today looks like one of those throw away rags that are left on the night stands of hotel rooms and the image things is a pure fashion mag. How did she get involved with this case in the first place and why would networks like Fox, CNN and MSNBC turn to her for info about a missing person case? In this country that would be like asking Martha Stewart what happened to Jimmy Hoffa. WTH?

    49. Maggie on May 2nd, 2007 8:41 pm

      Early this morning, I watched a “Forensic Files” episode on CTV about a woman who was raped and murdered in the
      Bahamas late in the late 1990′s. She was drinking at a bar and going to get a ride from 2 sailors. The woman working there asked her not to go, but she said she would be ok. A bad hurricane hit the island with lots of rain and afterwards a woman’s body was found on the newly mown golf course with grass clippings on it. The sailors said they went home that night. A witness from another bar said a third man came over to the table and argued with the woman. The sailors claim they left and went home. They couldn’t remember what clothing they wore. The third guy gave them his shoes and clothing he had worn. The shoes had grass clippings stuck in the bottoms of them. It was unique kind of grass on the golf course with a distinct pattern when examined. He said he never did nothing to the girl. One of the sailors gf’s started talking. She said when her bf came home that night, he mentioned a girl died and he had her wash his bloody clothing. Detectives kind of played one against the other. Finally the guy with the clippings on his shoes told that all 3 of the men were out in the car with the girl and one of the sailors asked to park the car while he went out walking with the girl for a few. The girl realized what was going on and when the car stopped, she got out and tried to run away, but he caught her. The guy with the clippings on his shoes approached him and told him to leave the girl alone, but he pulled a knife on him then raped and murdered the girl, throwing a condom away close by. The rain washed most of the evidence away except for those unique grass clippings. He was sentenced to 25 years and the other guy go three years for manslaughter because there was no evidence of dirt or grass stains on his clothes from that night.

      Made me think of Natalee’s case and why else would men go out to pick up an intoxicated female at closing time. Witnesses saw them out after leaving the first place in the Bahamas.. my point,,not one witness saw these 3 in Aruba after leaving CnC that night.. not one saw or heard Deepak’s loud car..which tells me they weren’t driving around all over town or walking around in public,, but they took her to a private place. They would’ve never chanced taking Natalee to a beach by the Holiday or Marriot where some of her friends would or might run into her after leaving CnC.

      Authorities on this case worked hard to solve it in the Bahamas. Forensic Files announcer said being that the island relies heavily on tourists for income..the investigators knew they had to work dillegently to solve this. I was pleased to see the work they did to solve this.

      Joran only has Natalee drunk when it benefits his story, she wanted to see sharks, she was crazy, she wanted to stay alone, she was talking and acting weird, and he has her sober when it benefits his story.. sexual talk.and falling asleep, oh she had been drinking, but she knew what she was doing.. Can’t have it both ways..

    50. IndyDan on May 2nd, 2007 8:44 pm

      #48 – Nice analogy Stranger.
      It’s also amazing to me how a mother with children of her own has no compassion for a mother who has lost a child.
      Tells me its a personally vendetta against Beth and nothing more.
      She’s a bitter bitch that lacks happiness in her own life and hurting others makes her feel better somehow in some strange way.

    51. Carpe Noctem on May 2nd, 2007 8:49 pm
    52. Waterboy (Jerry) on May 2nd, 2007 8:53 pm

      I am sure there has to be some sort
      of Aruban fashion law that Anita has broken
      muliple times.
      That has to be felonious in Aruba, RIGHT!?!?

      Love it, simply love it. While I’m in the mood—Let’s talk about Anita’s looks. She is so ugly-fill in the blank, Monkeys.

      Anita is so ugly, that when Joran was born, her OB had to wear a blindfold.

      She is so unpleasant and repulsive, she has to wear a mask so she won’t frighten young children. This is the law in Aruba.

      Anita is so soberingly ugly, that they hang her picture in the drunk tank to help sober the drunks up. Takes half the normal time.


    53. Stranger on May 2nd, 2007 9:05 pm

      It is very easy to watch the metamorphous of Joran’s many stories and it is clear that legal advice dictated those changes. For a much abbreviated example of Joran’s chameleon like capabilities just watch his interview on the street in Holland. When asked if he had sexual relations with Natalee, he went form “That is none of your business” with a smile on his face to “Absolutely Not” with the look of a cornered animal. All the while Paulus was in the background motioning to him.

      That interview is quintessential when examining the many faces of Joran.

    54. tomtomgobyby on May 2nd, 2007 9:10 pm

      its funny how this “search” coincides with jurines book release. julia renfro has been misleading the family from the beginning and playing her part to shill for the sloots, which is why she doesn’t openly state how she fears her own daughter being around paul and jurine. this is a simple act of terrorism, something we’ll see a lot more of. Had she been German or Italian she’d have been ok, but Natalee was targeted because she was an American girl. Thats all, and the bastard sloot family needs to be wiped off the earth in a bloody smear by our government. These acute episodes of anti American aggression in foreign travel spots will occure more often as the war on terror strangles more of these America haters, but fact is, we need to protect and avenge our own, no matter where this occures in the world. It should be law.

    55. Waterboy (Jerry) on May 2nd, 2007 9:26 pm

      To Anita,

      Cheer up! There are worse things in life than being dog (with a capital D) ugly. Paulus must sort of like you. Look at all you two have accomplished together. Raised three sons – never mind don’t think about that. I know it is repulsive. Lets see, okay, think of all the nice clothes you have —no, don’t think about that either, or at least don’t think out loud, and if you do, don’t think in my direction.

      On second thought Anita, lets change directions here. Maybe there is not much in life worse than being dog ugly (with a capital D). Maybe this thought will help cheer you up. There is not much these days that a good plastic surgeon and a little time (make that a lot) can’t correct. Set your goal to be beautiful is perhaps as little as 10 years and 40 surgeries or so from now.

      Sincerely, and only trying to help,

    56. IndyDan on May 2nd, 2007 9:28 pm

      #53 – Stranger
      I didn’t see PVDS in the background of that snip. Really?
      Wasn’t that the same interview where he said someday he’d tell what happened but couldn’t at this time? (paraphrasing)?

    57. Allan K on May 2nd, 2007 9:45 pm

      There is no doubt with Paulus and Joran being involved with the criminal activity and probable murder of Natalee. The one thing that might have cleared him was letting his house be searched. Really in my mind he acted guilty before that but the search of the house gave credibility to this.

      I wonder also if Paulus got the house search denied to further throw investigators off track where Natalee might really be. Even up to her being alive if even a slim chance. In this case don’t think you can trust anybody including Van Der Stratten saying he has seen the evidence. What evidence?

      Paulus is truly deceitful, wicked, vile, man and will not stop protecting himself and his criminal son.

      Greta’s greed is her influence now. So be it and she is not worth talking about.

    58. Waterboy (Jerry) on May 2nd, 2007 9:50 pm


      I’m sorry. I just read what I wrote, an it just sounds cruel and insensitive. I know ugly persons have feelings too, and I’m afraid I just walked all over your’s. Let me state for the record, and in an attempt to apologize , there are over 2 billion people living in the world today, and quite frankly, you probable wouldn’t (and I stress probable) even be in the top 100 ugliest people. I’m sure almost anyone who really wanted to look, hunt, search the small planet we all live on, could find someone uglier (not as beautiful) than you. I can’t think of anyone right now, but I have a limited exposure to people. I live in a small town that just happens to have some beautiful citizens (there is one ugly person, but not too ugly-certantly not in the top 100).

      Most sincerely, and I hope I helped. Hang in there, and think “Avon.”


    59. Waterboy (Jerry) on May 2nd, 2007 10:06 pm


      Oh how cruel of me. I forgot all about you, please forgive me. I can’t believe that there are two of you. I mean in perhaps the top 100 ugliest people how could two end up on the same small island. I’m so glade that at least you and Anita have each other. I know that sometimes it’s good to have someone to cry on his or her shoulder. How encouraging for the rest of us “normal looking –pseudo beautiful” people. You two are such inspirations. It just goes to show how in spite of your handicaps (in looks) you have managed to prevail (just don’t prevail in my direction or at least stand down wind).

      Most sincerely, and with a pure and helping heart,


    60. viet vet on May 2nd, 2007 10:29 pm

      Well, looks like the coverup continues, Paulus is sly but also stupid. His remarks, about them finding nothing gives it away. He reported nothing found before the results were done, if they were done at all. Justice will come, someone will talk, and Paulus and Joran are little people. Little people get stepped on. Only thing going for them is that Aruba and Holland cannot afford the storm of protest whice would come if the world really knew the depth of the coverup. But Holland and Aruba want rid of Paulus and J2K, so they will have them eliminated at some point. Lloyds of London would not want any action on a whole life policy on these guys. BOYCOTT………

    61. Stranger on May 2nd, 2007 10:30 pm

      #56 – I am going with recall here, but I am sure Joran talked about him and Paulus walking down the street when they were approached by the reporter. Joran said Paulus did not want him to do the interview. Joran insisted and Paulus stepped aside. What Paulus was doing on the side-lines is an assumption on my part, because Joran’s eyes dart, his demeanor changes and he immediately begins to back off of his early implication. His initiative then appears to change and he becomes emphatic that nothing physical took place between Natalee and the trio. He goes on to say that anyone that says so is lying.

      I find it interesting that the overly incubated spermatozoon would choose to call others liars, when we now know his history with the truth.

    62. Waterboy (Jerry) on May 2nd, 2007 10:43 pm

      As they searched his house, Paulus was heard singing this song.

      Oh where oh were could my Anita be
      The law enforcement took her away from me
      She’s gone to jail so I’ve got to be good
      So I can see my baby when she leaves that jail.

      We were out on the sea in my friend’s boat
      We hadn’t driven very far
      There in the sea
      Straight ahead
      A boat was stalled the engine was dead
      I couldn’t stop
      So I swerved to the right
      I’ll never forget the sound that night
      The screaming engine
      The splashing water
      The Painful scream that I heard last.

      Oh where oh where could my baby be
      The Arubian authorities took her away from me
      She’s gone to jail so I’ve got to be good
      So I can see my baby when she leaves that place.

      When I woke up
      The rain was pouring down
      There were dolphins swimming all around
      Something warm falling into my eyes
      But some how I found my baby that night
      I lifted her head
      She looked at me and said
      Hold me Paulus just alittle while
      I held her close
      I kissed her our last kiss, her breath was horrible but
      I found the love I knew I had missed
      But now she’s gone
      Even though I hold her tight
      I lost my love, to the Arubian authorities that night

      Oh where oh were could my baby be
      The law enforcement took her away from me
      She’s gone to jail so I’ve got to be good
      So I can see my baby when she leaves that place.
      I just hope she doesn’t come home early and find me with panties on my face.

      oooooo oooooooooo


    63. 10061906 on May 2nd, 2007 10:50 pm

      I’m curious; Is this investigating team coed? Does anyone know where they are or did stay. Any trips to c and c’s?
      Did any or all camp out at the VDS’s. So now they can’t report what they found because of conflict of interest.
      I agree; beat on Anita. We do not know for sure what happened and even if Natalee was at the VDS’s. But if Natalee was there; Anita knows the whole story. She may have even instigated it. She and Satish are too quiet.

    64. Waterboy (Jerry) on May 2nd, 2007 10:54 pm

      Sorry Monkeys,

      I’ve been up too long with no sleep.

      Viet Vet,

      Good to hear from you. It’s been awhile. I enjoy your common sense approach.

      With all the cover up, I have to just wonder who Paulus really is and where his apparent power comes from, or is it just ostensible power?


    65. Carpe Noctem on May 3rd, 2007 12:01 am

      LOL Jerry! It is like Karoke Night.

      Sleep tight, muyn!

      Joran’s Alleged History
      Of Fighting With Vacationing

      Internet Archive Post


    66. Carpe Noctem on May 3rd, 2007 12:20 am
    67. Treehouse on May 3rd, 2007 12:33 am

      Conscious of its spiritual and moral heritage, the (European) Union is founded on the indivisible, universal values of human dignity, freedom, equality and solidarity; it is based on the principles of democracy and the rule of law. It places the individual at the heart of its activities, by establishing the citizenship of the Union and by creating an area of freedom, security and justice.
      All kinds of legislation…yet, Natalee still waits…

    68. Carpe Noctem on May 3rd, 2007 12:44 am

      Austin Powers

      Frau Farbissina:

      “Scottttttttttttttttt, send in the REN-BOTS!!!!”

      >I PITY DA FOOL! :shock:

      Sgt. “B. A.” Baracus

      Bring Nat Home.

    69. Observer on May 3rd, 2007 2:57 am Tj Ward Radio Interview
      Hat Tip:Rob

      TJ Ward said his theory is that they didn’t kill her but something bad happened on the way back to the beach by the Marriott. The boys panicked and called PVDS and he brought a boat in or somebody from Columbia brought a boat in.

      Interesting Interview… Personally I think Paulus made the choice not get Natalee medical attention after something bad happened. Wherever Natalee is…Paulus Van Der Sloot knows..

      “Your Own Father..Unbelievable”..Deepak Kalpoe

    70. Richard on May 3rd, 2007 6:06 am

      I know that this is a forlorn and impossible desire … but instead of having the talking heads on the TV stations yell and scream and say “I think this happened,” “I think that happened,” “I think nothing happened,” etc., etc., etc. …

      Wouldn’t it be good if at least somebody did a comprehensive review of the case, revealing the cover-up? Researching all of the lies and contradictions? Putting pressure on Aruba?

      Of course, that would take time and effort (a Herculean effort at this point, even though We the People have compiled several useful timelines) ….

      So I guess it’s too much to hope for. It’s nothing to them, anyway, except more fodder to fill their air time.

    71. Waterboy (Jerry) on May 3rd, 2007 8:42 am

      I don’t know how many listened to Dana’s show, but I found it very interesting. Vicki was simply outstanding-enjoyed it so much.

      I thought Tim Miller was at his best. The dedication of that guy just astounds me. What a difference he is making in this world. I haven’t heard the story he told about Paulus forbidding the search his property.

      The deep-water search that Tim plans to conduct in June is interesting. I really don’t know anything about recovering a body from deep water. He said that a body in more than 150 feet of water would never float. I just don’t know. He would. Maybe I didn’t understand fully what he was saying. I listened to it again and again.

      He also said that the info that is filtering back to him says the two K brothers are very nervous about his return, and he doesn’t think Natalee’s body is 3 to 5 miles out, but closer in. He said evidence would still be there, and Natalee’s body would be like it had been in a refrigerator.

      I think if Natalee is out there, and if the 3 amigos (and whoever else helped) put her in the crab cage, she will be easier to find. I’ve speculated before that I think they used old cast iron window weights to weight the cage down; and if that is really the case, there is an even better chance of finding Natalee.

      There is a good chance that Natalee was cremated or shipped out of the country, or she is still in the landfill. If cremated, there is no chance of finding her. If she is in the landfill, there is no chance, unless we get a confession. If she was shipped out of the country with another body (I think the 100-year-old+ man) or at sea, she is findable (with great challengeable difficulties).


    72. chris on May 3rd, 2007 9:24 am

      Richard, I sent Greta another email last week asking her to check out the monkeys’ blog to learn the truth before opening her silly mouth. I did bcc Red because I do not know how to copy and paste and all the other things you guys do so well. I do have an excuse tho, I’m not so young anymore.
      I also asked here if anybody shared my feeling that Paulus’ brother was privy to the info that the investigators were about to descend on his property and forewarned him, but had no response. Do you think it possible?

    73. Just Me on May 3rd, 2007 10:22 am

      #43- If those dates are right and I will assume they are, I am shocked. Thank you for answering me.
      And they call me dense, Im inclined to believe it now. Lol.

    74. Frank on May 3rd, 2007 10:29 am

      I mean really…..2 million sperm and we get Jurine…..what are the freaking odds anyway?

      Justice for Natalee

    75. Quinne on May 3rd, 2007 10:35 am

      #72,,, Chris, forewarning a susupect is a good “investigation” tool. Usually an informat is used or somebody close to the suspect to forewarn him or her. With phone taps in place and the suspect under visual survelance you can sometimes obtain a great deal of information while the suspect makes a move or two that can tie him to the crime. Maybe not the case here and Paulus is definately that not stupid.

    76. Stranger on May 3rd, 2007 10:37 am

      I think the whole cable “news” format has grown stale. What purpose does it serve to have panelists on these programs, if they are totally unaware of the facts in a case. Who needs to hear their generalities over and over again? Typically there will be defense attorneys, those with a background with prosecution, maybe an ex-judge and if we are lucky a forensic expert. However, none of them will be familiar with the particulars of a specific case. Who gives a rat’s ass what these so called experts think when they obviously know nothing?

      Even worse is when a defense lawyer is allowed to go on these programs, rant and disperse misinformation about a specific case!

      Maybe it is time for the cable news networks to revamp the format of these entertainment programs and start actually reporting the facts and leaving the baseless opinions out of it!!!!!!!!!

    77. Ashley on May 3rd, 2007 10:58 am

      Wow, dit is al weer de zoveelste blunder van de Dutch Investigators in een missing case. Zochten ze echt naar Natalee in en/of rond het huis van PVDS.
      Dachten ze dat ze daar lag?????

    78. jDoe on May 3rd, 2007 1:00 pm

      Has anyone seen updates of the Dr. Phil suit on any of the cable shows?

      If you have, can someone tell me if anything is known about Maria Bernadeta Kelly, who is listed in the discovery request as a friend of Andres Meneses?

    79. Meee on May 3rd, 2007 1:18 pm

      I agree Richard. Someone should do a comprehensive review of the case. How many times did you hear Beth tell Greta. All you have to do is connect the dots. Unfortunatly Greta wasn’t interested. Stranger- I agree with you. The format needs to be changed. And for all the reasons you stated. Don’t forget to e-mail Greta She loves to hear from this site.

    80. Donna on May 3rd, 2007 6:15 pm

      Julia Renfro, “journalist wannabe” is a long time VD Sloot supporter. She has nothing to offer to this investigation and I don’t know why Fox keeps putting her on the program and asking her questions. She used to be Joran’s babysitter… that speaks volumes of where her allegiance lies. She betrayed Beth and Dave. She is a loser who wants her 15 seconds of fame.

    81. Stranger on May 3rd, 2007 6:21 pm

      I want to sue Greta and that “Prince” for giving me a headache the other night! Geez, I hope we don’t see him making any announcements about that visit!

    82. Stranger on May 3rd, 2007 6:46 pm

      So, Renfro is a sporter supporter!

    83. mayan_moons on May 3rd, 2007 7:05 pm

      LOL Stranger!

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