Natalee Holloway Investigation: Joran Van der Sloot … An Innocent Person Does Not Lie

 

 Why Would an Innocent Person Need to Lie?

 Answer … An Innocent Person Would not have to.



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    46 Responses to “Natalee Holloway Investigation: Joran Van der Sloot … An Innocent Person Does Not Lie”

    1. msmarple on February 27th, 2007 1:55 am

      Nice work, klaas.

      __________

      SM:   Thanks – I may do Deepak next ;)   (klaasend)

    2. rainier17 on February 27th, 2007 3:01 am

      it still amazes me how criminal the conduct was of the Aruban law enforcement in the NH investigation, how Natalee’s life was treated like mincemeat by all Aruban authorities and perps, and how patently obvious it is that jvs and k2 (and steve croes) know the fate of Natalee Holloway. Certainly one of the most flagrant miscarriages of justice ever to occur in a foreign land to an American visitor. It would be simply impossible to imagine, say, Dade County Police aiding and abetting a cover up of the disappearance of, say, an Italian tourist girl who was last seen drunk with some local youths.

    3. Carpe Noctem on February 27th, 2007 5:30 am

      What this walk piece of human refuse has
      done to the Holloway/Twitty families
      is absolutely unconscionable.

      The H-T’s are never far from my mind. Maybe not top
      of mind awareness, 2 years later… but I assure you
      they always make the TOP 10 LIST.

      I hope and pray someone
      takes the little lying Van der sloot
      son of a bitch out each & everyday!

      Some people tell me that is a little rough of a position to take. Maybe if they were to get up and go to sleep each day wondering if their loved one was alive or dead, or worse, stuck suffering in a terrible state in between… maybe they’d feel differently.

      To each his own.

      Great work, Klaas! It tells it like it is.
      He IS a little disgusting lying hose bag!
      I hope this is one more nail in his coffin.

      This thing should have never
      been Dutch vs. Aruba vs. America.

      It should have always
      been about being a LYING P.O.S.
      vs. SIMPLY TELLING THE TRUTH.

      Joran Van der Sloot is a liar…
      and that is the truth. WHY? -J4N

    4. Richard on February 27th, 2007 5:50 am

      Is that the full tape of the infamous Greta interview, after which she said she was inclined to believe him?

      (And after the firestorm that that comment provoked, Greta was as quick to downplay that remark as, say, Kerry was with his would-be joke about the dumb people in Iraq.)

    5. vicki on February 27th, 2007 9:10 am

      Carpe#3, Thats exactly how I feel. It should never have gotten this far.I speak from my heart and If I have offened anyone [other than trolls]Im sorry. I get so frustrated when I see things like this and look at URINES lying face, I just want to smack the snot out of it.
      He and his father have destroyed so many lives and then say”they cant tell what happened cause it would hurt to many ppl. What kind of crap is that?
      Its disgusting and makes me sooooooo sick.
      Him saying she wanted to see the sharks and there are shark heads in the aruba bay videos.UGH. God please bless Beth,Dave, Robin and Matt and give us all closure.

    6. Miss-Underestimated on February 27th, 2007 9:15 am

      I wonder how many times Natalee told Joran not to touch her?

      What did Joran mean by “the girl wouldn’t listen to me”?

      I think the only truth was that “my dad and brothers were home” Do you think Anita worries what her youngers sons may have seen that night? Does Anita wonder what was on her camera.

      Aruba is paying the price…check out the beautiful EMPTY beaches.

    7. buster on February 27th, 2007 9:19 am

      How can you tell if urin’s lieing ??? His lips are moveing !!!
      If you do a video clip of the cowpoo’s try to make there lips move a little for realizm !!!
      Aruba sucks worse than anything that ever sucked before !!!
      Aruba it’s time to pull your head out !!!
      J2
      Why do we have to add numbers together in order to post here ??? Is it to keep Urin and the cowpoo’s from posting ??? We all know they can’t even add 2 + 2 together

    8. Dayhiker on February 27th, 2007 10:03 am

      Very well done Klaas! Maybe one day the Dutch will “get it.”

    9. joe bear on February 27th, 2007 10:08 am

      It is time for the truth.If the truth had been told then,we would not be blogging and the lying pos would possible be out of jail,early.

    10. Miss-Underestimated on February 27th, 2007 10:40 am

      It is a true shame that justice has not been served and these perps have not been tried. The perps in as much stated Natalee died in their presence and maybe at their hands, were leading or did lead police to Natalee’s body.
      Yet the wheels of justice have siezed maybe even going backwards to recreate the history of that night.

      If others thought this case was going to be shelved quitely, they may want to rethink that. Thanks to the good ppl here who post and Klaas, Tom, Red and Dana to keep Natalee’s case strong.

    11. Scared Monkeys on February 27th, 2007 10:50 am

      #8 … It is a trial that we are looking for.

      A fair and just trial in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. Not a Banana Republic sham.

      Un-American, spare us. I guess you think its un-American to think that Scott Peterson, Couey, and the countless others who lied in the aftermath of a missing person who was murdered as well.

      Innocent people do not lie … they don’t have to now do they?
      R

    12. Jerry from Ohio on February 27th, 2007 11:38 am

      This is in refference to Richard #4 comment about the Greta interview .
      I did then and still do believe that GVS did and still does have an attachment to the Van Der Sloot family especially Joran now I don’t know if it is a sexual attraction she has to this boy ( eoo YUCK ) or if it is purely a deal that was made promiseing Greta an exclusive (inside story) on this case when it is advantagious to bring it out. but for some reason it has something to do with a pay off (Not In Money now you understand Greta and Hubby have enough of that now ) for Greta “I personaly think it is for a story that she believes will propell her again to the top from which she has tumbeld “.
      Far too many experts have viewed and reviewed that tape of Joran and seen his movements and heard his voice telling
      His lies and proveing to at least those of us that believe in forensic’s that he was and still and is lieing his Butt off and with LITTLE or NO remorse, this boy is a true Sociopath .
      What ever community that he is resideing in at the time has A VERY REAL Reason to be afraid for their young woman because time and time again he has learned that he can and has gotten away with henious crimes against women and the island of ARUBA has again reinforced his belief that he and his family are untouchabel .

    13. MOLLY FROM LOUISIANA on February 27th, 2007 11:39 am

      #12 scared monkey….you make a point, but remember there was a trial that convicted Peterson.

    14. San on February 27th, 2007 11:58 am

      Great Job Klaas.

      #6 Miss-Underestimated I agree.

      That is the only time Joran told the truth when he said Natalee told him not to touch her. If they were having such a great evening as Joran pretends they did why tell him not to touch her.

      I also do not think the brothers were home with the father. I am convinced they were with Anita. Joran was coached to say that they were home because it also provides an alibi for Paulus.

    15. Freebrid on February 27th, 2007 12:00 pm

      Anyone with half a mind can read the statements and know Joran is a big fat lier! And Molly you put the frosting on the cake! Joran and the J2brothers don’t need a chance to prove their innocents because everyone knows they are guilty!! They didn’t give Natalee a chance!! And Paulus we all know you are involved up to your ass in this to!!!! It is American to try and protect our own! especilty our children!!!!!!!!!!!

    16. Sahara on February 27th, 2007 12:33 pm

      #8/14, You say, “I think the boys know what happened”. So, if it were your daughter, what would you do? Chalk it up as a loss? Or would you do everything you could to keep the story in the news and continue to try and get answers? I would never give up on my kids…..ever!

      Yes Peterson was convicted by trial. There were also real police, real prosecutors, and no government cover up.

    17. Janet on February 27th, 2007 12:59 pm

      GREAT WORK!!!
      .
      Thank you to all who contributed.
      .
      The Holiday Inn fabrication conveyed approximately 24 hours after Natalee Holloway went missing implies that Joran, Deepak and Satish must have been aware that Natalee Holloway was dead. Logic dictates that these guys must have had confidence/ assurance that Natalee was not going to suddenly turn up and refute their words.
      .
      Ockham’s Razor
      .
      “You must never fail to adopt the simplest idea as your working hypothesis. If necessity demands, you can dump it later when you have more data, but only because it is no longer the simplest idea” or “entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity.”

    18. vicki on February 27th, 2007 1:08 pm

      #17-Sahara I personally would have hired a hitman to torture them to talk. I would have started with Urine first the little punk. Thats what amazes me about the GRACE and restaint that the family of Natalee has shown. I for one am a better person just knowing that their are ppl like them in this world to look up to.Beth Twitty is my HERO. I have never met her but to me she seems like a kind,warmhearted lovely person who loves her daughter very much. God bless your family, Natalee.

    19. JusticeforNatalee on February 27th, 2007 1:21 pm

      You know what “boggles the mind”, Joran?

      The fact that you are NOT YET BEHIND BARS!

    20. Janet on February 27th, 2007 1:40 pm

      19. Vicki

      Vicki, I stand in awe of Beth Twitty.

      When the “powers that be” within the Aruban investigation began erecting smokescreens to distance their own from being implicated in the events that encompass the disappearance of Natalee Hollway … they did not anticipate the strength and determination of this amazing woman who was on a quest for answers … who was on a quest for justice.
      .
      BOYCOTT ARUBA!!!
      .
      ‘Scarborough Country’ for August 8
      HOLLOWAY TWITTY: I think it’s just the side that, you know, I-I will stop at nothing to get answers. There is nothing that I won’t do. There’s nowhere that I won’t go, and there’s nothing-I’m going to ask every question. I don’t care how painful it is. I will do it, because I’m not going to have any regrets.
      .
      ‘Scarborough Country’ for Oct. 24th
      HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Oh, absolutely. And I have told Prime Minister Oduber that I will do this, I will be the voice of Natalee for the next 40 years. And I hope I have that long, because I will do it as long as I can.
      .
      ‘Scarborough Country’ for Oct. 24th
      HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Well, and I met with Prime Minister Oduber. I don’t care who you put the pressure on, where it comes from, but I want-you need to figure it out. You need to figure out who needs to apply the pressure and where it needs to be applied, because you have to solve this crime. I said, you do not want to turn me loose from this island without an answer.

    21. Janet on February 27th, 2007 1:56 pm

      17. Sahara
      .
      WAY TO GO! TELL IT HOW IT IS!
      .
      All the ongoing attention encompassing the disappearance of Natalee Holloway is not about an eighteen year old American citizen that disappearance under suspicious circumstances on the Island of Aruban. People go missing every day in my country (Canada) as well as the United States of American.
      .
      As Sahara implied … the ongoing attention is all about a corrupt investigation that is protecting the guilty … it is about a corrupt investigation that is denying a victim justice … it is about a corrupt investgation that refuses to afford a family a measure of closure.

    22. vicki on February 27th, 2007 2:01 pm

      Thank you, Janet. I stand in AWE of her also.

    23. Meee on February 27th, 2007 2:01 pm

      Haven’t posted this for awhile http://www.peterrdevries.nl click on “tips en vragen” to send him an e-mail. Also feel free to e-mail lineup@foxnews.com asking for coverage. Here’s greta’s ontherecord.foxnews.com

    24. Meee on February 27th, 2007 2:06 pm
    25. Janet on February 27th, 2007 2:09 pm

      ‘Scarborough Country/
      .
      Beth Twitty
      .
      HOLLOWAY TWITTY: They never-they never wanted to implicate these three young men.
      .
      They never wanted to implicate them from the beginning. And there is a list of reasons, you know, why we know that is true.

    26. mayan_moons on February 27th, 2007 3:43 pm

      Aruba has never had to answer for anything or to anyone until Natalee was kidnapped & murdered. They are bucking it hard, they thought they could ride & wait Beth & Dave out. Thats what they’ve always done before but they didn’t count on all the supporters of the family who will NOT stand for the indifferent shrugging of shoulders or the vicious attacks on Natalee and Beth.

    27. Elaine on February 27th, 2007 3:48 pm

      To Poster #8/14….Yes, you are right, Scott Peterson did go to trial. And that is what we are NOT seeing in this case. Where is the trial, against the liars? Yes, Scared Monkeys is hell-bent on Justice. Rock on Scared Monkeys, Rock on!!

    28. dennisintn on February 27th, 2007 4:00 pm

      #27, truer words were never spoken, mayan moons.
      dennisintn

    29. mayan_moons on February 27th, 2007 4:58 pm

      dennisintn isn’t it amazing what Aruba has put itself through all this for a judge wannabe & his deviate spawn.
      I remember the first time i heart about the Strategic Tourism whatever and thinking……Strategic?? Why do they need a strategy? Just picking that name sent up a HUGE RED FLAG to me. To bad they didn’t listen to our good advise not to let these 3 & the father hide behind them & taking a fatal torpedo hit on tourism, where they make their economy from.

      Hey Aruba……why don’t you make the goonboys & daddy take their medicine for the sake of the island’s economy & reputation.

    30. nychic on February 27th, 2007 5:43 pm

      #8 & #14

      ***KEL-MOLLY***
      You Made It Past Klaas Again !

      I Have To Laugh When I Think About You Trying
      To Figure Out New Names To Post Your CRAP Under !

      p.s. You Forgot To Include OJ In Your Posts !

      ______________

      SM:   Deleted #8, left the other one.   Thanks for catching those ;)   (klaasend)

    31. Maggie on February 27th, 2007 6:01 pm

      JVDSloots lies and contradictions alone would fill a mini-series, Deepak, Satish Paulus could be the sequels. If this were a bf, gf or spouse that lied this much, we would have already kicked them to the curb and called the trashman for pickup.

      Great Job Klass..

    32. mayan_moons on February 27th, 2007 6:02 pm

      lol nychic…the names may change but the stupidity can be seen a mile away!

    33. Miss-Underestimated on February 27th, 2007 6:52 pm

      Hey Klaas you could keep this going after the initial 4 perps. How bout doing one on Dompig?

      I heard Ms. Shippers has a new book out
      “Aruba for dummies”

      1. Chapter-Understanding our judical system.
      (footnote: it is impossible)

    34. Patti on February 27th, 2007 7:31 pm

      Klass, Good Job!

      Have we heard anything new about the lawsuit? It’s just so
      damned quiet! When was the preliminary hearing scheduled?Isn’t it sometime, soon? Was it March 14th? Anybody know?

    35. Janet on February 27th, 2007 9:49 pm

      34. Patti
      .
      Credit: Klaas – SM Forum
      .
      DATE: February 27, 2007
      http://www.nbc4.tv/news/11128216/detail.html
      .
      Aruban Brothers Want Natalee Holloway Lawsuit Dismissed

    36. Richard on February 27th, 2007 10:53 pm

      Janet, I think the stuff in that article is just the predictable legal maneuverings. Won’t get anywhere, so long as the judge out there has vestiges of sanity.

      Mayan Moons (29) … do you think Aruba has done/is doing all this just for the failed judge and a few punk kids? I don’t.

    37. mayan_moons on February 27th, 2007 11:09 pm

      Richard i don’t think the coverup is just for PaulASS & the 3 punks, what i was thinking is why the higher ups didn’t say “well Paul the three were seen leaving with the girl & in order to keep the lid on all our evil doings, we are going to have to do some time”.

    38. mayan_moons on February 27th, 2007 11:10 pm

      oope “they are going to have to do some time”

    39. mayan_moons on February 27th, 2007 11:35 pm

      Its hard for me to believe Paul has a bunch of dirt on the so called justice minister & thats whats kept he & his goonboy out of prison.

    40. mayan_moons on February 27th, 2007 11:42 pm

      If they can make Natalee disappear they can make papa sweat & jurine disappear too….or maybe set em up in an accident.

    41. mayan_moons on February 27th, 2007 11:48 pm

      If they had blackmail material i feel father & son would’ve been killed in one of the numerous car wrecks they have over there.

    42. Patti on February 28th, 2007 12:56 am

      Thanks, Klaas!

      The people involved in the cover-up are all friends, aren’t they? I don’t know that the Minister, himself, had anything to do with it… I just don’t like his attitude, saying he’s sick of the Natalee Holloway case. But all the other people involved used to work with Paulus. Van Straaton is Joran’s god father.

      What could Paulus have meant when he said he would tell everything at the right time, and that alot of people would get hurt? He’s a judge… he knows of his responsibility to report a crime and to tell the truth. How could they have let him get away with that statement? Wouldn’t you be after him if you were one of the investigators to get the truth out of him. It’s obvious he knows more than he’s telling. When would have been the right time? Or was he using that as a threat; ie. if the time came that he HAD to talk, he would tell all… thus, hurting ALOT of people?

      Aruba doesn’t make any sense at all. There had to be alot of people looking the other way, ignoring statements like these; otherwise, Joran would be in jail, wouldn’t he? One doesn’t have to have a body to proove murder… especially if you confess, like Joran did.

      “Somthing bad happened”

      It sure did.

    43. mayan_moons on February 28th, 2007 1:11 am

      Bottom line is as i stated earlier on post #26, none of them have had to answer for anything they’ve done. Pure arrogance is why this has gone on for almost 2 years. I think ya must be crazy to want to vacation there. they’ve made it clear Americans aren’t safe there & no one gives a damn if you vanish too.

    44. tex on February 28th, 2007 4:47 am

      agree with #2; maybe we need a new window sticker as reminder:

      ARUBA DIRTY POLICE
      The Dutch Law Enforcement Van der Sloot, Van der Straaten, Jannsen & Jacobs covered up the murder of Natalee Holloway to protect their tourism. Save a life, Avoid the island.

    45. Carpe Noctem on February 28th, 2007 8:18 am

      A light North Easterly blowing wind
      would boggle Joran’s mind.

      Ya wanna know whyyy?

      Coz there’s an effin hole in it! :)

      Keep it on a swivel, J-Bo! Always know
      somewhere out there, there is some pissed off
      American that wants to help you “do some
      things”… for your poor treatment
      of Natalee Ann
      and her family.

      An American Never Forgets. -J4N

    46. yoyo muffintop on February 28th, 2007 9:28 am

      mayan – you must watch waaaay too much tv. Disappear/car wreck/accident/do some time/appear as sucide/mafia. Way too much. Can’t wait for the first – “wouldn’t be surprised if suit is dismissed because aruba paid off a CA judge” – fall back post.
      Afterall, this is a 3 continent/4 country cover-up coordinated by a 17yr old and his failed judge father with over to 100 people involved, including the judiciary in 4 countries(including the US). Oh boy…

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