Over-Reaction aboard AirTran Airways Flight … 3 Year Old Girl Kicked off Flight For Tamtrum


Have adults in positions of authority forgotten how to deal with children? I guess the real Cryingquestion is whether they even try anymore? Or have they just lost their minds? There has been a rash of over the top dealings with children in incidents that make one scratch their heads. A 12 year old special ed student was arrested for wetting her pants. A 4 year old was accused of improper touching and sexual assault by a teacher. 

Children are not adults. They do not act, think or rationalize like adults. The latest in a long line of bizarre stories comes via Air Tran Airways where flight attendants kicked a 3 year old girl and her parents off of plane bound for Boston because the girl would not stop crying and sit in her seat. Yes, 3 years old. I guess it was a matter of national security. One thinks some training is in order. If this keeps up it will be the exec’s that are crying.

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — Flight attendants often deal with obnoxious passengers who won’t listen to instructions by kicking them off the plane. But a Massachusetts couple think AirTran Airways went overboard by treating their crying 3-year-old daughter in much the same way.

Julie and Gerry Kulesza and daughter Elly were removed from the flight when the girl refused to take her seat before takeoff, airline officials said Tuesday. But her parents said they just needed a little more time to calm her down.

What a customer and kid friendly reaction by the attendants of Air Tran. Nice PR for the future in a transportation business that constantly begs for more passengers. This hardly seems like the manner in how flight attendants should have handled matters. Obviously, the suits tried to remedy the PR nightmare by appeasing the situation.

The Orlando-based carrier reimbursed the family $595.80, the cost of the three tickets, and offered them three roundtrip tickets anywhere the airline flies, Graham-Weaver said.

Too late, the father was quoted as saying … “they would never fly AirTran again.”

Posted January 23, 2007 by
Bizarre, Child Welfare, Travel, WTF | 63 comments

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    63 Responses to “Over-Reaction aboard AirTran Airways Flight … 3 Year Old Girl Kicked off Flight For Tamtrum”

    1. Joanne on January 23rd, 2007 1:57 pm

      Good for AirTran.

      I think many will be surprised at how this story will bring repressed resentments to the surface regarding the impositions that parents of young children think they can impose on the rest of us. Excuse me I have to get off the sidewalk, a four foot wide stroller is coming toward me.

    2. vicki on January 23rd, 2007 2:07 pm

      Sure, that just great, joanne, throw off unruly kids…maybe the child wasnt feeling good. WHATS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD. I agree with you SM…AIRTRANS STINKS.
      No way to win friends and infuence ppl. I see a lawsuit coming at ya, Airtrans.

    3. Abbey on January 23rd, 2007 2:18 pm

      There is more to this than just a crying child. The child refused to sit in her seat so the plane could take off. She was climbing under the seat and hitting her parents refusing to sit down. The plane was already delayed 15 min by this out of control child. I agree with the airline why should a plane full of people be put out because of someones brat? The parents being put off the plane made them responsible for their childs actions, how long do you think they should have sat waiting for child to calm down so the plane could take off? Maybe the parents might teach their child some manners so the next time they take her out in public she knows how to act.

    4. mommaknows on January 23rd, 2007 2:22 pm

      Is that the answer to EACH AND EVERYTHING LITTLE THING THAT HAPPENS TO GO ON NOW??????!!!!!!! File Suit!???

      You nor I were there on that plane. But, I can tell you this. From what I have seen today, more often than not the parents are the ones to blame for the behavior of the child.
      Parents have lost control of their children and the disclipine of them. We now have the government telling us that it is against the law to spank our kids? GIVE ME A BREAK!

      Crying and feeling bad is one thing, but not staying in your seat and disrupting a whole airplane is another! I have two children, which are grown now, and yes, they had their tantrums in stores and public places, but you can bet your last dollar that I addressed the tantrum right then and there and when we got out of the store or place of business, it was addressed. When we got home, it was addressed again. Spanking? You better believe it! Did they grow up scarred for life? No. We talk about the problems with today’s society and parents that refuse to make children behave! They see the terrible wrong that the parents are doing their children by putting no boundaries or consequences to their actions.

      Rock on AIRTRANS! Stand your ground!

    5. JusticeforNatalee on January 23rd, 2007 2:23 pm

      The plane has to leave on time and the child wouldn’t sit in her seat.
      I know the child in question is just three years old.
      But there has to be some type of order on a plane.

      I never blame the child but some parents need to get a clue.
      (And yes, I have raised a child)

      Screaming kids in restaurants–don’t get me started!
      However, the blame rests with the parents (not the children).

    6. Scared Monkeys on January 23rd, 2007 2:27 pm

      For those that wish to congratulate Air Tran and want them to stand their ground, please read the entire story …

      This was not 6 muslims standing up and causing a comotion. It was a 3 yo.

      They did not stand their ground and knew what they did was over the top and wrong.

      The Orlando-based carrier reimbursed the family $595.80, the cost of the three tickets, and offered them three roundtrip tickets anywhere the airline flies, Graham-Weaver said.

    7. Miss-Underestimated on January 23rd, 2007 2:29 pm

      Hey what expect parents to do, they cannot even give a swat on the hiney anymore. When adults in control do not have the capabilites to do their job, (the attendants),in their own enviroment. Let’s not forget we were at one time children, but it appears in this society we are lacking our compassion to deal with children.
      A whole thread could be started on our education system and ritalin as a way of dealing with our children.

      You can’t spank your kids, but someone else can molest or worse kill them. Thanks for the info SM.

    8. Para2legal on January 23rd, 2007 2:47 pm

      SM how long do you think the plane should have been delayed before Air Tran was justified in having the 3 removed from the plane?

    9. Miss-Underestimated on January 23rd, 2007 2:54 pm

      SM will Airtrans issue an apology to the family of the 3 year old, like the 6 Muslims had demanded and gotten?

    10. JusticeforNatalee on January 23rd, 2007 3:06 pm

      The child wasn’t sick; she was out of control.

      Now a SICK child–that would be a whole different story.

    11. JusticeforNatalee on January 23rd, 2007 3:11 pm

      P.S. Once kicked off the plane, the parents could have gotten the situation under control–maybe take their child for a walk, talk to her, etc. –in preparation for the next flight out.

      I would not even expect an airline to hold a plane for my unruly child!

    12. Peaches on January 23rd, 2007 3:21 pm

      Take a look at this from the airline’s perspective. If you lose your place in the line to take off, you may have to wait a long, long time. So AirTran should let this out of control 3 year old determine the ETD of this flight? I doubt it. The flight attendants are on the plane for safety reasons. Clearly, it was not safe to allow this child on the plane. In case of an emergency, nobody needs a kid that refuses to listen to directions. At three years old, “sit down” shouldn’t be THAT big of a challenge. Was the trip a surprise? Did the parents even think to discuss appropriate behavior on the airplane PRIOR to the trip? I’m sure the parents are annoyed but this could have happened on any airline. Time is money and this kid was wasting everyone’s time with her parent’s help. Sorry I can’t feel too bad.

    13. rand on January 23rd, 2007 3:22 pm

      I think AirTran handled it correctly. If you can’t calm your child down enough to buckle up for take-off, you should VOLUNTEER to get off before even having to be asked. Kids will be kids so parents should expect that might mean delays for them, not for anyone else.

      AirTran was very generous, giving them a full refund AND offering a free flight for all three in the future. Someone asked if AirTran issued an apology. They didn’t. They issued a statement saying they stand behind their decision to remove the family. I do too.

    14. Para2legal on January 23rd, 2007 3:35 pm

      Now we know how to get free airline tickets!!! If you don’t have a small child, borrow one and head to the nearest airport. Have the child throw a tantrum on the plane and look at the prizes you win!! A full refund AND free tickets!!!
      This may start a new trend.

    15. Miss-Underestimated on January 23rd, 2007 3:38 pm

      How would they have handled this if it happened in mid-air,
      throw baby out?

    16. mamagee on January 23rd, 2007 3:55 pm

      I see no grounds for a suit here. I raised three children (twins and third 17mo younger). I would not have waited for someone to have to tell me that my child was being a nuissance. I resented people who rolled their eyes when they saw me coming with three kids before waiting to see how they behaved. However, I also resent parents who allow their children to be disruptive in theaters, restaurants, airplanes, etc. All the other people have paid to enjoy their experience and should not have it ruined by one family who thinks they have that right. If they had allowed this child to stay on the flight, they probably would have had to reimburse a lot more tickets.

    17. pdh3 on January 23rd, 2007 3:56 pm

      I never would have tolerated one of my children behaving in this way, and I have raised 3 by myself. I never spanked them, but I did discipline them, and I have never had any behavioral problems from them. At 3 years old, a child is certainly old enough to sit down and behave, and to follow a parent’s orders unless the child has developement issues or is impaired in some way. I suspect that child is never made to behave anywhere, so why would a plane be any different? Parents don’t discipline anymore, and children run the household now. This is the result – out of control kids who don’t know how to behave.Whether you spank or not is not the issue – you can discipline kids even if you choose not use to that form of discipline. But you do have to use some form of discipline, and there have to be consequences for misbehaving.
      This child ultimately won that battle – no sitting down in the seat and behaving after all. Will the next flight with the free tickets be any better?

    18. JusticeforNatalee on January 23rd, 2007 4:00 pm

      #14 I was thinking the same thing. LOL

      These parents were REWARDED for having an unruly child!

      There are ways to act in public. And a three year old is old enough to understand, “We have to sit in our seats now so that the nice pilot can take off.”

      Let the parents be inconvenienced. Maybe next time they will prepare better.

      No reason to inconvenience all other travelers or hold up an ENTIRE PLANE for BAD BEHAVIOR. Fifteen minutes was enough understanding and courtesy.

      In fact, I think that if this happened to me, I would be apologizing for holding up the plane!

      The parents should be the ones apologizing. Are they at all embarrassed?

    19. JusticeforNatalee on January 23rd, 2007 4:01 pm

      P.S. Take off and landing can be dangerous.

      Everyone needs to be in his SEAT.

    20. Miss-Underestimated on January 23rd, 2007 4:10 pm
    21. Joanne on January 23rd, 2007 4:46 pm

      Probably an idea would be to have a child free flight for people who wanted to have a flight free of shrieking.

    22. Simpson on January 23rd, 2007 4:49 pm

      There are rules for a reason, even the flight attendants buckle up for take off. A 3 year old should not be any different. The parents SHOULD apologize. If my flight got held up because of a screaming 3 year old and I missed my next connection I would not be a happy camper.

    23. Mrs. Red on January 23rd, 2007 4:54 pm

      I personally agree with what AirTran did…. now if the other airlines would just kick the unruly business travler adult that feels the need to bring their entire life on the plane via CARRYON!!! Or let those of us who hate dealing with carry-on get off the plane first!

      Having said that, the PARENTS are entirely to blame… they should have been more in control of their child.

    24. Skyboxx on January 23rd, 2007 5:17 pm

      Sorry, my props go to AIRTRAN. Whether a whack job Immam praying like a lunatic, or a child out of control, the airline has to take a stand.

      As a frequent air traveler in and out of MCO (Orlando), I can tell you the flight attendants have their hands full with children. 99-44/100′s % of the time they are successful with the children. Southwest, Airtan and USair in particular always do a great job with the kids.

      I have sat next to a child who wouldn’t behave, wouldn’t listen, tray tops down, you name is on approach to MCO. The father didn’t do anyting. The mother seated in a different row, got up, got the childs attention with a swat on the back side, (she was about 6 years old) and took care of business.

      Where is is written that unruly children have rights over th rest of us? Time for the children ages 2 to 100 to learn there are boundries, laws, rules and regulations to be followed.

      This kid was unruly, the parents didn’t take enough action, they pay the consequences. Could they have given her something to pacify? Who knows. Do you want to always have to give something to the child to get them to cooperate? Probably not.

      Sorry my vote with AIRTRAN on this one.

    25. Skyboxx on January 23rd, 2007 5:22 pm

      Of course one could have fun with this…..

      Fade from black to airplane soaring high above the clouds…

      Announcer: “We are United Airlines. We never leave on time, so bring your unruly children to us. We don’t care if they don’t take their seat, mis-behave, are unruly or generally don’t listen. Late Take-offs, late arrivals, what does it matter, take as much time as possible to educate your child…in fact we can leave the plane parked at the gate for as long at it takes….Why? Because we care that little Johnny or little Joanie settles in on their own time, on their own terms. United, because a temper tantrum is special and you nor we want to miss it!”

    26. tuyvnsurvivor on January 23rd, 2007 5:22 pm

      People are naturally generous to little kids. So this one must have been a bottom one percenter. By 3 yrs of age there is no reason for a child to be acting like a future convict.

      If so many want to side with the brat, leap over there to sit by it, for extra ear pearcings, goo spreading and extra rumble for your ride…didn’t think so.

      I think most often, a 3 yr old bad enough to get tossed off a plane, it is to be blammed on bad parenting…neglect.

      Perhaps there are those here who have worked with troubled teens, worked to rehab adult alki and drugies? The problem starts somewhere. Ever notice how often a really bad fit throwing kid is nasty and unkept. Sight unseen we do not know, but my guess is this kid had “goo” for everyone.

    27. Miss-Underestimated on January 23rd, 2007 6:01 pm

      News is saying the child had just had ear/surgery

    28. cv on January 23rd, 2007 6:22 pm

      And they want to make spanking your child illegal…
      I think some kids just need spanked a couple of times just to show em who the boss is and they will quit acting like that.
      I agree with the airlines. They are on a schedule and were already detained.
      This all comes down to the parents teaching their kids right from wrong. At 3, this kid should know better.

    29. Scrapiron on January 23rd, 2007 6:51 pm

      I think they should have thrown the parents off the plane at 50,000 feet without a parachute. By the age of three thay have formed their action for life. Just another future prison inmate.

    30. kate on January 23rd, 2007 7:27 pm

      OVER-REACTION? think not! i say HOOOOORRRRAAAAYYYYYYY for Airtran!!!!!!! My new fav airline!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      i think the idiot and ineffectual parents should be required to pay for the missed flights of ANYONE their brat made late for connecting flights!! i would have demanded it ! GO AIRTRAN! GO AIRTRAN! GO AIRTRAN! GO AIRTRAN! GO AIRTRAN!

    31. JusticeforNatalee on January 23rd, 2007 8:06 pm

      If the little girl just had ear surgery, why are her parents dragging her
      on a plane ride?!

      That seems like the worse thing to do–take a kid on a flight in which she will feel increased pressure inside her ears!

    32. JusticeforNatalee on January 23rd, 2007 8:12 pm

      correction #31 “worse” should be “worst”

    33. rebaboone on January 23rd, 2007 8:21 pm

      I’m with Airtran the inconvenience should reside with the parents who either could not or would not control their child not the rest of the passengers. (Yes I am a parent)The reimbursement of ticket prices was more than fair. Actually the parents should have borne some of ther loss of the plane flying at less than capacity. JMHO.

    34. Skyboxx on January 23rd, 2007 8:49 pm

      ahhh, surgery. You know we you have to take a test for a drivers license, maybe there should be a competency test before you have children. Relax, just kidding, but it does make you wonder.

      Husband: “Hey Honey, I know Ryder Mylo just had ear surgery and she’s been acting up and all, but you promised that trip to Disney and if you wear these Bose noise canceling head phones you can hardley hear the little darling scream, what do you say?”

      Wife, “Well you Derek, me and Ryder Mylo have been couped up in the house all week, I can’t imagine that any pressure in the cabin of the plane will affect the little tykes ear canal, after all you and I only had pain just that once.”

      What’s next gymnastic lessons right after a groin pull?

    35. Bodo on January 23rd, 2007 9:57 pm

      I have experienced prolonged nerve-racking torment several times when flying with toddlers onboard who threw incredible temper tantrums. And after experiencing an especially sanity-stressing flight seated a few rows from one of those little darlings who was hitting and kicking and throwing things in long repeated screaming fits of temper, I have to say that I feel sorry for the parents in this unfortunate situation but I applaud the crew for having the child removed from the flight. Options available in dealing with the situation of a darling little tyke who is having an out of control screaming and kicking fit of temper in a store or checkout line are not the same as in the closed confinement of a crowded airplane at 35,000 feet where a parent cannot remove the child and patrons nearby cannot escape the child’s screaming, thrashing fit.

    36. Richard Silverstein on January 24th, 2007 2:48 am

      I congratulate the post author for seeing this incident in the right perspective. As the first commenter noted, you can see in the comments here the level of insensitivity to children among the general public. You can see it if you do a blog search where you’ll find the large majority of posts on this incident entirely sympathetic to Air Tran.

      What they did was reprehensible. There are ways to train airline staff to deal w. troubled children that don’t end w. ejecting an entire family fr. a flight.

      I just had a sick as hell child sleep through an airplane landing on the floor of the plane. YOu know what she would’ve done if we’d strapped her into her seat? Wailed at the top of her lungs for the entire 20 min. descent. Thank God our flight crew looked the other way, which ended up making for a quiet peaceful flight for all.

      What I’m saying is that with kids you sometimes have to be flexible and roll with the punches. Air Tran doesn’t deserve the business of any of America’s families with young children.

      For more on my perspective, check out the link accompanying this comment.

    37. NOT AS STUPID AS YOU THINK on January 24th, 2007 6:05 am

      Well I guess the next time I fly I will try Air-Trans first!! What the airline did was right and proper. I thought it was great that they returned their fare — the airline had been helpful by hold the plane for 15 minutes , trying to give the parents time to subdue their 3 year old and handle things. Then afterward they returned their fares AND gave them three complimentary tickets!!! Boy they went WAY above and beyond!!!!

      The parents obviously felt that because they had paid for their tickets it entitled them to bring a child that they had no control over, and to inflict this child on others. I am not saying that three year olds will not be three year olds and maybe will scream to high heaven until they get their own way — or until Mommie or Daddy distracts them with something they like or catches their fancy. But to do nothing and tell everyone “she will calm down eventually” and let her run around and hide under the seats and “hit” at her parents, was not proper on the parents part. They needed to reach down grab that child, haul her up, give her a “Mommie’s not happy with you” look and then lock her into her seat belt. The airlines was MORE than generous by delaying the flight 15 minutes to try and get the situation under control — and when that didn’t happen — asking them to leave the airplane so that the plane could get on with it’s business was the proper thing to do!!

      So many parents now think that the world revolves around them and their child — they allow the child to make the rules. First off, why would the parents think that the child could just “run around a bit to settle down” before take off?? Excuse me, there are other people trying to board the plane, stow their bags and find their seats — all in a very limited space and time — then try and watch out so you don’t trample a small child underfoot? That is asking for too much.

      When the three year old went into her tantrum mode (which I grant you three year olds do) it was the parents responsibility to catch the child and restrain her in her seat. If you have good parents, they usually know how to distract and get their three year old to calm down. Obviously, these parents were not wanting to try and distract the child — and had not trained it yet to “listen” and “behave”. Too many people think a child is too young to be trained — that is not true.

      Many of you mention that the people around just HAVE to understand — as the child they are bring on the airline is ill. Well honey, have you ever heard of cancelling your flight and rescheduling it when the child feels better???? I’m not talking about where the little one has taken ill after take off, an ear ache from an change in air pressure on board, or maybe an upset stomach — that is different, then everyone just needs to have sympathy and try to to help as much as one can (including not complaining about the child crying). BUT, knowing full well the child is ill, and it’s not convient for the parents to change the flight, and they feel that everyone else will just have to live with the consequences — is just NOT fair to people in the plane. IT IS TRULY UNFORGIVABLE !!!!!

      Personally, I feel the airline did right because they removed the parents and the child from the airplane. The parents had the problem — and until they learn how to deal with it — if you want your child to be “free to express themselves” and the parents can see right off the bat the child is not feeling well or is not in a “good” mood to take a trip — reschedule it for another day, when your child is a more amenable mood. Or– take your trips via car!!!!!!!! Then if you want to put up with a screaming out of control child — no one has to endure the untrained child but yourselves!!!!!!!!!!!
      Then YOU will have to deal with it!!!!

      As for the parents — I hope they don’t take the same flight as me the next time I travel!!!!!

    38. Brenda on January 24th, 2007 8:01 am

      To post #1

      Joanne….Another woman with my attitude of parents not taking control of their children. Expect MUCH more of this in California if that retarded “no spanking” resolution passes.

      I got spanked alot as a child. Deserved more whippings than I got too. Still, I knew the difference between right and wrong and as an adult, I am thankful I had parents who loved me enough to disipline me.

      I also agree about the repressed resentment. You need to go to FHU.com and check out Roy Masters. He deals alot with that type of thing in his lectures.


    39. Brenda on January 24th, 2007 8:04 am

      I can’t believe SM is on the side of the parents on this one. How many people may have missed connecting flights already due to he 15 min delay already in place?

      My kids are grown and would not have DARED act such a way in public. Just another example of poor parenting and letting the child be in control.


    40. chloe on January 24th, 2007 10:32 am

      Grown ups act like they were never kids at all! The way some people talk about children makes me sad. Sometimes they cry and act up and sometimes you have to get off the sidewalk for their strollers. True. But so what? They are children. The get a free pass because they are wonderful. Even at their worst, they are better than most adults on a normal day.

    41. mommaknows on January 24th, 2007 11:01 am

      Post #36….there is a VERY BIG difference with a child “sleeping” on the floor than a child that is “screaming and throwing a temper tantrum” on the plane keeping the plane from taking off and disturbing the other passengers. Do you not see a difference???? A sleeping child vs a screaming child?? Concessions are always made. Rules are always eased on occasion. But you are trying to compare apples and oranges.
      These parents could not control their child, which was three years old (wait until the child gets to be 12, 13, 14 15 or 16,) so the airlines did it for them. Why make a concession for a three year old when the parents can’t even control them and make the others have to deal with your problem.

      They could have locked her in the bathroom so they could have taken off. That way, she would have been away from everyone and in a safe and secure place. Would that have been ok with you? Just so she would not have been kicked off the flight? I vote to put them off the plane! :)

    42. jojo on January 24th, 2007 11:34 am

      I’m with air trans on this- and I have a 3 year old. He is not allowed to act up in public. He knows this and is just about the most pleasant child you will ever see- he even says please and thank you- and no thank you. I do not spank- ever. My parents never spanked my brother or myself. But we knew how to behave because adults had TAUGHT us how to. We didn’t want to emparass ourselves or our parents with bad behavior. Allowing anyone, a child or adult, to delay others on a flight is just bad manners. Forcing people off the street in your stoller- single or double-wide- is again, just bad manners. Never once have I ever expected and special treatment because I was pregnant or had a small child with me. I was thankful when people were kind and opened doors etc… but I didn’t expect it. That is the problem today- people expect special treatment or to have the rules “bent” for them. Wrong! Society is made of rules for a reason.

    43. JusticeforNatalee on January 24th, 2007 12:13 pm


      And if there had been a rough landing and your child was tossed about the plane and injured, what would you have done?

      Let me guess–sue the airlines.

    44. JusticeforNatalee on January 24th, 2007 12:20 pm

      P.S. Was your child sick before you took him/her on the plane?
      A sick child belongs at home in a comfortable environment.

    45. JusticeforNatalee on January 24th, 2007 1:18 pm

      I would like to share a pleasant story to show that it’s all in the parenting.

      My husband and I recently experienced having a family of three very young girls sit near us at Starbucks.

      The mother had her hands full and looked very tired, but she had obviously taught her little ladies how to act in public. No runnning and screaming through the cafe, etc. No grabbing things without asking.

      My husband and I actually enjoyed sitting near the girls because they were all so cute and well-behaved. I complimented the mother on her girls’ behavior.

      It’s all in the parenting.

      It’s up to the PARENT to be flexible and roll with the events of the day.
      It’s not up to fellow passengers or fellow patrons to do that.

      As the parent of a small child, you have to accept that the day might not go as planned. You might have to change your plans or deal with an unexpected stressful situation.

      But it is not right to impose on others, who have paid for a pleasant or quiet atmosphere.

    46. Momto2boys on January 24th, 2007 2:34 pm

      My 2 year old screamed all the way from L.A. to B.C. We had
      been at a family reunion, his schedule was out of whack, and
      there was just no consoling him. Believe me we tried, and we
      felt terrible for the other people on the plane. Most of them were glaring at us. I can see both sides of this, but I would have been upset about having to get off the plane.

    47. JusticeforNatalee on January 24th, 2007 3:09 pm


      If the screaming had occurred at a restaurant, would you have left?

      Would you have left early or at least taken your child OUTSIDE for a while?

      Or, would you be determined to finish your meal and let your screaming child impose upon other patrons
      who paid to have a quiet and enjoyable dinner?

      Sometimes as a parent, you have to just leave out of courtesy for others.

    48. Son of a Gun on January 24th, 2007 3:35 pm

      “What they did was reprehensible. There are ways to train airline staff to deal w. troubled children that don’t end w. ejecting an entire family fr. a flight.

      I just had a sick as hell child sleep through an airplane landing on the floor of the plane.”

      Yeah, that’s just what I would want, a child as projectile. If there is any kind of rough landing etc. all i want is a child to bludgeon me. Then next thing you know I WILL be facing a civil suit for not cushioning the child’s landing enough when it came flying at me. Don’t say that this is not possible. If it weren’t they wouldn’t make you buckle up for landings.

    49. Son of a Gun on January 24th, 2007 3:37 pm

      And yes, there’s somebody somewhere that’s crazy enough to sue for above mentioned reasons. I don’t put it past anybody especially the liberals that think they know how you should live your life and raise your kids.

    50. Disgruntled Airline Traveler on January 24th, 2007 4:01 pm

      You can bet your last dollar that had that little darling not been required to sit down and strap in and something had happened on take off that caused her injury, these clueless parents would have run screaming to the lawyers to file suit. Airlines have rules for reasons; primarily to keep both passengers and crew safe from takeoff to landing. They apply to all, whether you are 8 or 80. If a passenger can’t or won’t abide by the rules, fine, drive, take a train or walk. But don’t hold up the rest of us that are trying to get somewhere. These parents obviously could not or would not control their child. Why hold 120 other passengers hostage while Suzy throws a fit? I applause Air Trans initial action, and give them a raspberry for caving in to beligerent “parents” who think the world revolves around their little darling. I pity this child’s future teachers…..

    51. JusticeforNatalee on January 24th, 2007 4:22 pm

      Take off and landing are the most dangerous
      aspects of flying.

      That’s why there are RULES to buckle up.

      It’s for your own protection; it’s for your CHILD’S protection.

      If I had been the flight attendant, I would have INSISTED #36 that your child be BUCKLED UP. I would not want to risk injury to your child or a lawsuit against the airlines or me.

    52. Para2legal on January 24th, 2007 4:38 pm

      Nanny 911 should immediately be dispatched to the child’s home.
      In lieu of free tickets to the family – AirTran should have given free drinks to the passengers.

    53. Patti on January 24th, 2007 4:44 pm

      Poor Baby Boo…

    54. Patti on January 24th, 2007 4:52 pm

      Poor Baby Boo…

      Airline travel is hard enough on us…

      Give the kid a break.

      They probably ended up going for their
      vacation on the next flight….
      without incident.

      We all have our days…

      Fortunate, for us, we don’t cry about it…

      or do we?

    55. JusticeforNatalee on January 24th, 2007 5:03 pm

      No one’s blaming the children.

      parents parents parents

    56. Pamela Suder on January 24th, 2007 5:06 pm

      There is nothing wrong with bringing a child on board a plane…(Joanne) You too were once a child. Have some decency for parents who are bringing up children in a time when you are persecuted for “doing something inappropriate” to reprimand your child. We all need to have a balance in judgement. Some of these responses are over the top. In an extreme case, any child can behave inappropriately…especially a 3 year old. Maybe what transpired did require the action that the airline took. But get off your high horse and do not portray a 3 year old as a “convict”. For all of us who were not on the plane – we don’t know exactly what happened. And for all of you who do not want to sit near children, book a private jet for your travels.

    57. JusticeforNatalee on January 24th, 2007 5:36 pm

      Parents who expect an entire plane’s schedule to revolve around their child’s misbehavior are the ones who need to book a private jet.

    58. kay zee ess on January 25th, 2007 12:00 pm

      Thank GOD and the friendly skies that peace and quiet rules over an unchecked temper tantrum! If the parents are indignant about a company wanting the other paying passengers to enjoy their flight in peace that is unfortunate(too bad.

      Oh well, let’s just throw some money at them(which I’m sure will happen, I guess) so they can teach the rest of us that we have to endure their unruly childs’ behavior and cacaphony. Lawyers, wherefore art thou, a family hath been disdained! Money, money, money.

    59. Jack Price on January 25th, 2007 12:56 pm

      No Flight Crew member want to have passengers removed from an air craft, NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO THE COMPANY, BUT ALSO TO THE DEPT. OF TRANSPORTATION. All passengers must be seated and seat belt fasten ON TAKE OFF AND LANDING. Otherwise, the air craft can not move – taxi or take off. Parents have to be responsible for their children safety, and the flght crew is responsible to ensure the federal regulations are followed, and if not, the Captain must be notified.

    60. Momto2boys on January 25th, 2007 3:05 pm

      Yes, I would and have left a restaurant, I’m pretty considerate. Been around other peoples kids too and try to remember the trying times when a very young one is so far gone into their tantrum there seems to be nothing you can do. My son did’nt delay the plane though and after takeoff my hubby took him to the noisiest area above the engines to
      try to drown out the crying. He’s 15 now, very easy to reason with, not so when he was 2!

    61. Nicole on January 27th, 2007 12:02 am

      I cannot believe what #36 just wrote!!. I fly frequently and have been through rough landings. You NEVER know how the plane will land.To allow a 2 year old to lay on the floor upon landing is appaling and putting them in potential danger. There is no way #36 could not have picked up her 2 year old and let him scream for those 15 minutes before landing. You allowed your child to control you in a situation where his safety was more important than a tantrum. SHAME ON YOU!!!! I guess you let the little guy lay there too while passengers where trying to get off the plane in order not to upset him. god forbid he cries!

    62. Jeff on September 6th, 2007 5:17 pm

      The only thing that I can’t believe is that the child’s parents were not beaten silly for not being, well parents. Kick mom and dad off and then find some real parents who can actually say NO to a child and tell the child to sit down and shut the you know what up, this kid was 3 years old, not 3 months.

    63. mimi on May 31st, 2009 11:55 pm

      I have been a flight attendant for five years. I’m also a parent f two year old twins so i know alot about flying with kids. This situation with having to kick off the family happens alot. The reason why we have to do this is simply because of safety reasons. If the child is screaming and won’t stay in their seats with their seat belts fastened thats an issue.We donnot want to put even more pressure on the child taking them 35,000ft in the air.Its better for the child and other paying passengers if the parents take the time to soothe their child and just take the next flight out.

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