From the Pages of the ALE Coloring Crime Book … Chapter 2: Aruban Suicide


On a Caribbean island where tourism is king, its always important to keep the tourists safe. Any place that wishes to attract tourism knows it must protect those that bring revenue. One needs to look no further than South Africa and their predicament with crime and a recent gang rape of a tourist. Then there is Aruba … that simply looked the other way. Eighteen months later both those on Aruba like Jossy Mansur and those in Holland like Peter de Vries are showing to the world and Aruba what many of us knew from the outset.

Then again with a color-form and coloring book ALE manual coupled with a purposeful hindrance of an investigation; is it any wonder why we are at this point today in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway?

ALE 101, Chapter 2


(Vanderbilt – ‘06)

An important page from the ALE coloring book style training manual. Here, the objective is to recognize the signs of a suicide. The example shown is a definitely a suicide. More pages as they become available.
Better police work equals more tourism!

Posted December 12, 2006 by
Aruba, Bizarre, Crime, Natalee Holloway | 65 comments

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    65 Responses to “From the Pages of the ALE Coloring Crime Book … Chapter 2: Aruban Suicide”

    1. Elmer Noctem on December 12th, 2006 1:22 pm

      You know Vanderbilt,

      Before Aruba… I may not have found that

      funny! After the Natalee Holloway Tragedy in Aruba…

      I find that to be funny. Funny in the way

      that it is so close to the truth.

      -Justice 4 Nat

    2. MIss-Underestimated on December 12th, 2006 1:28 pm

      Excellent Vanderbilt. Maybe the ALE is figuring the Natalee Holloway case is just collateral damage to protect the tourism revenues.

      ALE never figure they’d be effin with the wrong people.

      I have a question though, do any of the ALE feel comfortable, um like one of the ALE or other – in the know could leave Dodge and squeel, so I wonder does the ALE and others sleep with one eye open, kinda like pigs do?

    3. super dave on December 12th, 2006 1:31 pm

      yes, it looks like this guy did all this damage to himself, then tied himself down. looks just like an aruban suicide to me! i,m just surprised he didn’t bury himself so he couldn’t be found.

    4. Rudolph Noctem on December 12th, 2006 1:33 pm

      You know Vanderbilt,

      Before Aruba… I may not have found that

      funny! After the Natalee Holloway Tragedy in Aruba…

      I find that to be funny. Funny in the way

      that it is so close to the truth.

      -Justice 4 Nat!

    5. Mere on December 12th, 2006 1:37 pm

      It is almost embarrasing to have a police force who would say this man committed suicide….and to think we want them to solve the NH case….Mere

    6. 2NJSons_Mom on December 12th, 2006 1:47 pm

      Super Dave, I was wondering where the shovel was, too!!

    7. dennisintn on December 12th, 2006 1:56 pm

      #4, aww, mom, it’s aruba, suicide victims just “vanish”.

    8. MIss-Underestimated on December 12th, 2006 2:03 pm

      Yep ” Um she just kinda vanished”

    9. MIss-Underestimated on December 12th, 2006 2:05 pm

      Maybe the ALE can have in their coloring book one of those maize sections, that you never get out of or when you put that special magic marker over the blank page page every appears crystal clear.

    10. Meee on December 12th, 2006 2:17 pm

      As always. Once again off the subject a bit. “The Globe” this week has Natalee on the cover. Does an article about her being buried in cement on the Van Der Sloot property. Also mention De Vries. Feel free to pick up one. Sales equal coverage. Also feel free to e-mailimg them telling them you don’t buy there magazine unless it has Holloway info in it.

    11. Elizabeth on December 12th, 2006 2:42 pm

      Miss-Underestimated (#8):

      The maze? They have them, they can be found in the final
      chapter under Corruption: Everything that you need to know
      to investigate your case from A to Z including a special
      section on how to dispose of evidence. The disappearing
      act is especially helpful in assisting their special
      victims unit in charge of the eye witness program. Now you
      see them, now you don’t. It is their own interpretation of
      the “gag order”.

    12. vicki on December 12th, 2006 2:46 pm

      When you think of all the digging that we have been doing on that filthy island, its a wonder that something didnt happen before to someone visiting…Poor pitbull, he was probably gonna spill his guts but then decided to just kill himself. I “walked thru Bethlahem” this weekend at our local church, and the guide there was telling us how God sacrificed his son for us, it made me think that was what happened to this angel called Natalee. That maybe she was sacrificed so that all of this ugliness would come out and we would expose all the lies and corruption…the drugs and crime. I can only imagine how many lives Natalee has touched. For good ppl it hurts and for the bad ppl it hurts…just in different ways.God, please give us closure.

    13. JusticeforNatalee on December 12th, 2006 2:49 pm




    14. Carpe Noctem on December 12th, 2006 2:58 pm

      Hey, look who I have found

      riding shotgun with old ‘POPSIE DOODLE’

      at the # 38 ROCKS CRIMESCENE



      It’s J-BO and Daddy

      in a grey compact ‘saloon’

      in my opin-YONE.

      Hey MM… itchy gitchy, da da ya? ;-)

    15. MIss-Underestimated on December 12th, 2006 3:01 pm


      Me thinks Zeepac thinks he is Miami vice. LOL.

    16. Elizabeth on December 12th, 2006 3:06 pm

      Back to the subjuct of suicide: It is true that Aruba has
      a very high rate of suicide.

      Can’t help but wonder: With all the corruption and their
      epidemic proportional problem of getting anything done, how
      many murders have been deemed suicides? Any of them eye-
      witnesses to a crime???!?!?!?!?!

    17. Elizabeth on December 12th, 2006 3:15 pm

      Meee (#10): Shouldn’t we atleast read it first?

    18. Elizabeth on December 12th, 2006 3:44 pm

      God????? I don’t think so. Whatever you think happened to Natalee, God had nothing to do with it. Now if you would have said that it was the Devil, I could probably give you a nod; but God has no part in this act that has caused Natalee’s family all this suffering. Nothing, not even bringing down the most corrupt of the corrupt would be worth that.

      Yo Yo, Vicki or whatever you call yourself: Please, no more salt!!! If you want closure, just simply walk away. But, please don’t try to use our own God against us.

    19. fritz on December 12th, 2006 3:46 pm

      Drop his head in a bucket of water: accidental drowning

    20. downloadingd on December 12th, 2006 4:50 pm

      Aruban Law 101

      Telling of the truth shall be punished with suicide!

    21. Carpe Noctem on December 12th, 2006 4:53 pm

      Again, to Maya Moons –

      I am terribly sorry

      for your loss. :(

      I said something earlier today,

      but I think in the server maint.

      the posting was swallowed.

      My thoughts are with you, MM.

    22. Kat_Gram on December 12th, 2006 5:11 pm

      Color those pimps guilty while you have the coloring book out ! !

    23. SL-Gloria on December 12th, 2006 5:52 pm

      Let’s not confuse the renamed EliZabeth with the Dutch EliSabeth that posts from Aruba. Two different folks, two different strokes.

    24. Gunslinger on December 12th, 2006 6:37 pm

      Now just wait a minute Vanderbilt! How are the ale going to color this without the numbers!!!

    25. Carpe Noctem on December 12th, 2006 6:43 pm

      Miss U. LOL @ Elmer comment! :lol:


      Hey, I just read a post by BIG HAMMER

      in the SM Cage & wanted to share it because,

      well, it is just SO DAMN GREAT!

      HAMMER – Superb!

      I touched on the Joran-Satish – Out
      of synch lies earlier
      in the week in a


      Hammer knocks this one
      outta the park with laser like clarity!

      He really takes it to the hill and plants a
      flag in it.


      I hope he doesn’t get pi$$ed at me for copying &
      pasting it here. It is just so good, I am willing to
      take the risk.

      It is a not a SMOKING GUN. In my opinion PAUL-
      A$$ VDS has done whatever possible


      …to make SURE
      a smoking gun never surfaces. IMHO


      Is a super intense; crystal clear look,
      at just how BOLDY THESE BOYS LIE -AND

      …and how
      the A.L.E. sat back
      and played ‘POCKET POOL’



      The LIES – SIMPLY SICKENING… they readily admit to them.





      –Just Unbelievable!

      & lastly,



      IT IS JUST

      - “OFF THE RAILS” -

      … AS THEY SAY…

      They Are Runaway Trains.


      Peter de Vries says – “Joran uses LIAR’S LOGIC.”


      de Vries – I think ‘you are THE man.’ …and

      buddy… and to SAY THAT ‘LIAR’S LOGIC’ applies

      to these vicious, fomenting, unfettered A&# SACKS…

      ******* Brother, U — AIN’T — KIDDIN! *******

      Please read the following article
      dissecting Deepak’s ALE STATEMENTS
      of JUNE 2005.

      by: Hammer!


      Original Post Credit:
      Big Hammer – SM CAGE

      followed up with
      a comment by Blah.


      Deepak: An Out-Of-Synch LIE

      From his 6/13 and 6/29 PV’s, it’s clear that deepak has the agreed to sequence of story telling out of sequence, and out of synch. That aggressive interrogation following deepak’s 6/29 PV reconstruction of his story re: the reasons to engage John Charles Croes in msn chat is testimony to the inept investigative procedures followed by ALE and prosesction authorities.

      1. The 6/13 PV

      To your question as to who John Charles CROES is, where he lives and how often I have chatted to him on “MSN”, I can say the following. The afore mentioned John lives with his whole family in Miami. I have known him since school. We were together at the MAVO. On Monday Mai 30th 2005 I had chatted with John from about 02:40 to 03:30 hours. We didn’t chat continually. From time to time I went and watched some TV. But I am sure that he was online during the time-frame I just mentioned above here.

      Deepak introduces the identity of Croes as corroboration for his claim that he is home, and on his computer, during critical hours following Natalee’s departure from C&C’s in his vehicle. Deepak says this to distance himself from the scene of joran and Natalee, to pull himself, and his brother, away from the frame. IMO, the ONLY thing we can be sure of is that this msn exchange occurred between the parties identified, and at the times claimed — what we can not be sure of, based on what I have read so far, is whether deepak is chatting from his home computer, or not.

      2. The 6/29 PV

      You are telling me that John Charles CROES has stated that I wrote while I was chatting with him that I had written that the girl had put her hands in/down my pants, I can say the following. I did this to frustrate/mess up the investigation. I wanted to direct the focus of the police on myself and Joran because we were afraid that Satish would get the details wrong with regard to the “Holiday Inn” story. I was almost certain that our telephone conversations were being taped and I was certain that my computer was being monitored too.

      This explanatory statement, referencing the 6/13 PV passage above, is a mess and should have provided polis interrogators a field day — it is littered w/ inconsistencies, and directly implies “guilt”:

      a. It is clear that an intrepid ALE investigator actually took the time to contact Croes and gained some knowledge about the subject of discussion he had w/ deepak on 5/30/05 at 3:00am. And the subject turns unsavory: we have deepak describing sexual activity to his remotely located friend. This of course directly contradicts deepaks own earlier statements re: his “non-sexual” chauffeur-only encounter w/ Natalee. A lie that could be exploited during interrogations.

      b. “I did this to frustrate/mess up the investigation” Hhhmm. Where shall we start w/ this one? The obvious felony crimes of perjury and subjourning perjury are evident, and coupled with international aspect of msn, introduces the possibility for an Interpol level investigation. But that’s the easy part. The good part is that deepak is claiming here that he “knows” that he needs to frustrate an investigation — BEFORE THE INVESTIGATION EVER BEGAN AND BEFORE NATALEE IS MISSING. In this statement, deepak should be relaying his intentions as they were on May 30, 2005 at 3:00am. At that point in time, deepak (according to the beach drop off lie) has merely dropped a sober Natalee and joran off at the beach. Then why at 3:00am on 5/30/05 is there a need to frustrate an investigation?

      c. “…Satish would get the details wrong with regard to the “Holiday Inn” story…” Again, another out of sequence lie. According to previous statements, the Holiday Inn drop off lie was concocted by joran and explained to deepak during their ride from Wyndham/Raddison to sloot house at approx 2:00am on May 31, 2005. YET, here deepak is claiming that the HI drop off lie was active and in play at 3:00am on MAY 30, 2005 !?!? How could deepak avoid being grilled over this obvious inconsistency? This point, along w/ point b. (above), imply “guilt” — not only is deepak screwing up the timelines and chronology, he is carrying falsehoods forward in time in attempts to explain previous actions. And the reason to do this, is he more than likely knows what happened and even more likely was on the scene. Think about it: deepak is saying that he over-described sexual activity to Croes, because he wants to keep his brother out of it — there is NO LOGICAL connection between these statements; one does not follow the other ( except if Satish assualted Natalee ).

      d. “…I was almost certain that our telephone conversations were being taped…” Another completely out of sequence statement. How does chatting w/ Croes and talking of sexual activity somehow counter via false story telling the chances that polis are monitoring your chat? This makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.

      From these small snippets, and knowing that a few dozen statements exist w/ equally-glaring examples of inconsistency, out right falsehoods, and potential perjury and admissions of subjourning perjury, it’s just indefensible for Aruban authorities to think they can close this case and simply walk away —


      Blah says:

      Hammer – excellent work. This should be posted as a Front Page article and e-mailed to the family, DeVries, Jossy, etc..

      We need to get a lies and inconsistencies “sticky” thread going because there are far too many things to keep our arms around. -Blah


      My comments:

      Great work as always, Big Hammer!

      — this ones’s for you, bro bro.


      Postings like Hammer’s get me angry all over
      again at the injustices done to Natalee Ann Holloway.

      Which is exactly what this case needs…

      Enough people all over the globe
      getting angry… in order to
      finally sink the
      golf ball in hole # 18.

      Let the anger fuel ya,

      -Justice 4 Natalee Holloway!

    26. mayan_moons on December 12th, 2006 6:45 pm

      lol yeppers Carpe!

      i was testing the system!

      glad we’re back up & running!

      Another Globe with Natalee?

      i am pleased!

    27. Carpe Noctem on December 12th, 2006 6:46 pm

      *whatever it took – criminal acts, no matter* -sorry

    28. ayfit on December 12th, 2006 6:53 pm

      I’m with ya,always have been,however Janssen knows full well what happened to Natalee.She chooses to look the other way.That’s what is wrong with this farce of a case.The untouchables are actually protected from prosicution.Aruba is Venezuela’s brother,can the U.S. expect justice where one of theirs is concerned,I doubt it.I , at times, don’t know why I blog.When I get into this case,it really teares me up.I can’t believe how simple it would be for the officials of Aruba to solve this case and prosecute the guilty.Janssen won’t communicate with Beth,what kind of woman is she?A guilty one.Simple!

    29. Carpe Noctem on December 12th, 2006 6:54 pm

      This one ARUBA —-> We will bring her home

      one way – or another. -J4N-

    30. mayan_moons on December 12th, 2006 6:55 pm


      Thank you.

    31. mayan_moons on December 12th, 2006 7:05 pm

      Pet are like our children….tootsie was one to me. I love all animals but lil chi chi’s have a special place in my heart.

      When i learned Jurine killed his dog i knew he has/had a Black Heart.

    32. mayan_moons on December 12th, 2006 7:36 pm

      Wow…..seeing Dipsac speak about misdirecting “an investigation” on May 30, 2005 before ANYONE has reported Natalee missing does confirm our suspicions about all these punks.

      I think to myself…..there’s no doubt we’re looking at the right people. No doubt in the world Aruba knows everything that happened to Natalee & who did what, yet they walk free and Aruba advertizise for more victims.

    33. mayan_moons on December 12th, 2006 8:41 pm


      Add a primer on teaching Aruba how to connect the dots also! These clowns need all the help they can get!

    34. Carpe Noctem on December 12th, 2006 9:10 pm


      Satish asked the question

      upon waking up on 5/30/2005 to

      his brother Creep-pack Ponchatoon



      She was alive in Satish’s brain when

      he went to sleep in the wee hours of

      that morning.


      All I know, is the for lack of a better word,

      THOSE *** ‘MOFOS’***

      have a lot of SPLAINING TO DO.

      sound effect—>

      “Ai ai ai aiiiiii!!!”


      That’s the way I still see it!

    35. Richard on December 12th, 2006 9:14 pm

      Don’t make it too complicated … the Aruban police, perhaps, can’t count beyond ten. Unless it’s the bribe money from drug dealers and human traffickers, or both.

    36. vicki on December 12th, 2006 9:20 pm

      #18-is referring to my post#12 oh my goodness- Since GOD has everything to do with our lives [imo] I have every right to say what I FEEL.anybody…WHO ARE YOU ANYWAY??? you come on here from WHERE!!!! I love Natalee and I want JUSTICE.. and RELEASE from this nitemare.. Do not try and hurt me… I am to tired to try and fight with words… GO AWAY… WE WERE FINE WITHOUT YOUR INPUT{OUTPUT}

    37. mayan_moons on December 12th, 2006 10:06 pm

      NADIRA, i hope you see this.

      Nadira….you’re sons drove away with Natalee that night knowing what her fate would be, they watched her be mistreated in horrible ways & joined in the act of brutality against her and to this day you’re sons still hold Natalee hostage by keeping the truth & her remains away from her family. But i’m gonna tell you what….even with all that we know & don’t know, i and everyone who posts here would intervene if we saw someone hurting you’re girl Angela. Maybe it was all Jurine’s idea to take Natalee but it is YOU NADIRA who knows the truth & doesn’t care.

    38. Carpe Noctem on December 12th, 2006 10:17 pm

      Cali Lighthouse


      for WBJ



    39. Carpe Noctem on December 12th, 2006 10:22 pm



      SAT SHOT

    40. Miss-Underestimated on December 12th, 2006 10:23 pm


    41. mayan_moons on December 12th, 2006 10:23 pm

      yes please lets not attack anothers post who like you just wants justice for Natalee. we’re in this together.

      vicki… an earlier post you mentioned a what if? like what if Natalee was in Plainview, Florida. i too have pondered that, how can we find out what Paules was doing in Florida just days after Natalee is taken? That really bugs me.

    42. Miss-Underestimated on December 12th, 2006 10:27 pm

      Mayan Sorry to hear about your best friend.


      Didn’t Satish say the ghost of Natalee visited him in jail?

      Why would Satish think Natalee was a GHOST, you have to be dead to come back as a GHOST.

      Pauless said a corpse
      Joran said he’d laugh if they find the girl alive

      Hey fellas how’d you know that? You were all referring to Natalee as being dead. Why?

    43. Miss-Underestimated on December 12th, 2006 10:30 pm


      Why would Satish ask how she was doing, what happened that night where he’d even have to ask?

    44. Carpe Noctem on December 12th, 2006 10:37 pm




    45. dennisintn on December 12th, 2006 11:44 pm

      well, now we know what kind of garbage the aruban delegation was waving around to the alabama congressman last fall that turned his head away from the twitty’s. he lost all his ardor to help force aruba to solve the case. was the “evidence” presented as blackmail to quiet him? that plus the large cash donation to his campaign was enough i guess.

    46. mayan_moons on December 12th, 2006 11:46 pm

      Thank you Miss-U

      Yes visions of ghosts haunted Satish in jail & i’ll bet some nights they still do. The faces in various stages of decomposition we’ve seen in those video’s are haunting and when Satish is on deaths door its those faces that will lead him to hell.

    47. Elizabeth on December 12th, 2006 11:54 pm

      Yep! That’s where they were. Has anybody heard anything new about the bloody mattress? I’ve been thinking about this and I’m sure you must have thought of this. Do you remember hearing that there were eye witnesses to a body being placed in the back of a white pick-up truck?

      I have always wondered if maybe it WAS Joran’s mattress that had been picked up from his apartment (get it) and brought to the beach. Did they ever figure out who was driving that white pick-up truck? I, honestly, don’t think that our friend was at Joran’s apartment… ever.

      Thanks, Mayan, this is a nice place to be. Puppies are adorable!!!!

    48. nychic on December 13th, 2006 2:06 am

      Elizabeth -

      The Bloody Mattress Was Found In The Area Of San Nicolas
      and if I Remember Correctly It Was Not On The Beach -

      The Strange Thing About The Mattress Is That It Seemed To
      Be Placed/Planted In The Area Where The 2 Security Guards
      Lived -

      Another Thing That Is VERY Peculiar About The Mattress Is
      That When The 2 Security Guards Were Released – The Blood
      On That Mattress Was Determined By The ALE To Be “Dog’s Blood” ??

      The Most Bizarre Thing Was That Every Single Other Piece
      of “EVIDENCE” in this Case was Sent to Holland for “TESTING” ….

    49. Elizabeth on December 13th, 2006 2:37 am

      Here is one of the stories about it:

      Wouldn’t it be nice if we had the liberty to map all this stuff out: Where the rocks are, where the pick-up was spotted, where the mattress was found, where the duct tape with the hairs were found, etc.?

      They don’t have half this stuff, do they? What I have always worried about were the witnesses. Are they still around? We always acted non-challant about the witnesses because we knew that they were taking a terrible risk.

      I picked this article because it specifcally states how the judge had ruled in regards to securing DNA from the suspects. That was a heartache to us all.

    50. MIss-Underestimated on December 13th, 2006 10:53 am

      Forensics on the bloody mattress was done immediately to determine it was dog blood, The forensics on the hair tooks weeks if not months. How’d they do that?

      Santa Claus will make his trip to the list of bad Arubans when those stinkin pigs fly.

    51. Minnesota Dad on December 13th, 2006 11:56 am


      To get you up to speed,

      The murder took place in Paulus and Anita’s home. It was done on a bed in the home (thus, the bloody mattress).

      It is overwhelmingly obvious that this is what happened:
      - Aruba refused/denied search of the home despite having a search warrant to do so (A judge was waiting at the property to alter the search warrant only to Joran’s apartment).
      - The steps taken by Aruba to distance Paulus from the case. Why would they release him as a suspect and pay him money? Because it would make it impossible to come back in and search the premises despite my point #1. The crime scene has been insulated by Aruban law.
      - The blood soaked mattress laughably was called “dog’s blood”, yet considerable blood identified in Deepak’s car turned to ‘chocolate’ and ‘cleaning fluid’ upon being sent to Holland. How could they be so sure of ‘dog’s blood’ when they couldn’t even determine blood in Deepak’s car (do you not think they did, or should have, luminol’d Deepak’s car which would immediately detect blood?).
      - A furniture truck was photographed delivering (a mattress, perhaps) furniture to the Van Der Sloot home just weeks after. The interesting thing is, the photograph was an aerial shot of the compound and the delivery. Who was trying to rat out…tell us something about what was going on?

      Though I could go on, these four points point directly at where the murder took place, and that the murder took place on the mattress.



    52. Elizabeth on December 13th, 2006 1:31 pm

      Thank you, M.D.

      Do you remember what time it was when the eyewitness saw the three men loading a body into the back of a white pick-up truck? I know it was reported that the incident happened on the beach, but do you remember which beach it was?

    53. Meee on December 13th, 2006 1:58 pm

      feel free to e-mail Peter R De Vries. I click on “tips en vragen” Since I can’t read dutch.

    54. nychic on December 13th, 2006 2:01 pm

      Elizabeth -

      the maps have been analyzed – trust me :


      Also – are you sure you are not confusing the pick-up
      truck with the trunk of the white car ?

      This incident was in Dave Holloway’s book where he
      witnessed something being placed into the trunk of
      a white vehicle – possibly a Polis car – and before
      he could get closer to the area on Arashi beach –
      the car was long gone -

    55. Minnesota Dad on December 13th, 2006 3:24 pm


      I would not count on any timelines/bodies being loaded BS. ALL DIVERSIONS.

      The only timeline that is important to this case is the timeline of PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT the night Natalee was murdered. Aruba investigators never got one from him yet he was a suspect in the case with NO alibi’s.

      Figure out Paulus’ timeline for the night of the murder and this whole crime will be solved. md

    56. Elizabeth on December 13th, 2006 4:10 pm

      Thanks Meeee!

      Anybody read the Globe article? Anything new or interesting? Looks like the media is gearing up for another showdown. Come on Aruba, make your move.

    57. Maggie on December 13th, 2006 8:19 pm

      This is Anita’s comment about the search and her camera. She’s even insinuating they searched the house and grounds twice. Now we know the only search they did was Joran’s room. Just as Dompig said they tried to get a full search warrant, but it was denied.

      VAN SUSTEREN: What has been seized from this house?

      A. VAN DER SLOOT: The first time it was one computer that we all use. There’s no lock on it so we can see what the kids are doing, one laptop of my husband that he only uses for his work, my digital camera what was on my desk, not in Joran’s room on my desk. And I just had a field trip with middle-schoolers and I took pictures of a sand sculpturing project that we were doing because I’m an art teacher and there were like maybe 20, 25 pictures on it and I told the police, listen, this is material I want to use for school but for the rest there’s nothing on it. You can look at it but they took that too.

      They took all kind of things from Joran, a little kind of an MP3 player. They took tapes, also a tape of his tennis, college tennis camp. And the second time they took – they did a house searching, the garden, the pool. They took the two cars.

      VAN SUSTEREN: Have you gotten any of that material back?

      A. VAN DER SLOOT: No.

      VAN SUSTEREN: They still have it?

      A. VAN DER SLOOT: They still have it.

      VAN SUSTEREN: Do you know why they took even your computer or your husband’s laptop?

      A. VAN DER SLOOT: No, we have no clue.

      VAN SUSTEREN: How about your digital camera, any idea?

      A. VAN DER SLOOT: No, no clue, ridiculous.,2933,160562,00.html

    58. Maggie on December 13th, 2006 8:29 pm

      #25 Carpe, excellent post by Hammer. He’s exactly right. When Deepak said he told John Charles Croes that on messenger the early Sunday morning hours, to throw the investigation off, he had to know something happened to Natalee. There was no investigation or any word anything was wrong with Natalee at that time. Beth didn’t arrive until Monday night.

    59. Miss-Underestimated on December 13th, 2006 10:01 pm

      Thanks Maggie I couldn’t find those exact transcripts.

      So Anita what is it?

    60. Carpe Noctem on December 14th, 2006 12:17 am

      Now darn it, Anita is FUNNY! She’s gonna be
      doin’ STAND UP COMEDY before this is all
      over with! Anita will be live @ THE FUNNY BONE
      all next week in NOORD! Try the VEALLLLL! :lol:

      She says-

      (( There’s no lock on it (family pc) so we can see what the kids are doing ))


      That’s the best knee slapper I’ve heard all week! Now if
      she could just lock the CASINOS & BARS in town, she’s have it MADE.


      Maggie send 57 to de Vries and his crew!!!

      I sent Hammer’s GREAT
      post in *crediting* him
      properly earlier today.


      Look for lefthand side of page ‘TIPS’


    61. Carpe Noctem on December 14th, 2006 12:52 am

      Here’s the image MD is referring to in # 51

      of the furniture van @ the VDS COMPOUND.


      Here’s a guy with a ORANJESTAD

      I’m callin’ it a night…

      I’m a tired PRIMATE. -Bon Nachos, sporter!


    62. mayan_moons on December 14th, 2006 1:27 am

      Good Night Carpe!

    63. super dave on December 14th, 2006 10:25 am

      there’s no lock on it so we can watch porn too !

    64. MIss-Underestimated on December 14th, 2006 11:16 am

      super dave

      Yeah she said the searched the yard and pool, if it was done, which I doubt, was that search done before the new pool concrete repairs?

      Anita cying her eyes and Paulouse sweating up a storm.

    65. Carpe Noctem on December 14th, 2006 11:58 am

      Man, I just can’t get over that MAGGIE!!!



      VAN SUSTEREN: What has been seized from this house?

      A. VAN DER SLOOT: The first time
      it was one computer that we all use.


      *** The F-I-R-S-T TIME ?????

      hey Nita,

      By that do you mean the time they came
      and gave you a lame search and warned
      you in advance that ANOTHER ONE WOULD


      Oh Aruba, with each day
      that goes by…

      as Jossy Mansur says…

      “The deeper one digs,
      the more one find stuff


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