Joran, Deepak, Satish … No Soup for You. Three Suspects Remain Suspects in Aruba


Confirmed by sources in Aruba, Joran Van der Sloot, Deepak Kalpoe and Satish Kalpoe Aruba 3 suspectsremain suspects in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. We would like to thank Linda for being the first to forward us the information.

The judge decided today that the 3 suspects stay suspects. So Karin Jansen has 5 months to come up with some new evidence. I really thought that they would let the Kalpoes go,but not Joran .. guess I was wrong. Anyway ,have a nice day… (1:34pm)

UPDATE: According to Mickey John, one of the two security guards initially arrested in Aruba in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, he is no longer considered a suspect. It appears that Abraham Jones was not in Court so there is no known status on his ruling.

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  • November 1, 2006 Hearing for Deepak & Satish Kalpoe … Coincidence or Continued Cover Up?
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  • Comments

    81 Responses to “Joran, Deepak, Satish … No Soup for You. Three Suspects Remain Suspects in Aruba”

    1. JusticeforNatalee on December 7th, 2006 7:47 pm

      Good news!

      Aruba needs to act in good faith and keep the ball rolling toward

      J2K need to more than suspects. They need to be put in JAIL.

    2. Tommy German on December 7th, 2006 8:08 pm

      Thank you. This is darn good news.

    3. justice4nat on December 7th, 2006 8:12 pm

      Karin Jansen….How much plainer can the judge make it??? THE JUDGE BELIEVES THERE IS REASONABLE CAUSE FOR THE 3 TO REMAIN SUSPECTS!

      Quit covering for Paulus and his son and all the others involved…….and make the case against these 3 slimeballs!! Oh – wait…I forgot – you most likely helped Paulus and others in this cover up and helped people in your department destroy evidence.

      Grow a spine and make the case!!


    4. Beth on December 7th, 2006 8:17 pm

      I can’t say that I’m suprised. This move by Mama Kalpoe made so little sense. If I were her, I’d think twice before I’d beckon the court to make a decision like that. To say that she wants her sons to be either released from suspension or have charges drawn against them is quite a dare in my book. If I were her, I’d hide and hope that my foolishness goes unnoticed for fear that I just may GET what I pray for resulting in the charges being filed against her sons. Some people are just plain stupid.

      Why would charges have to be filed within five months? Is there a statute of limitations in play here? and if yes, then what? Surely, the island of Aruba doesn’t have a limit on when MURDER charges can be drawn. Maybe some of the evidence that was obtained through subpoena would expire but certainly not the ability to file charges?!?!?!?!?

    5. IndyDan on December 7th, 2006 8:32 pm

      I’m not so sure I’m rushing to thank the judge for this ruling. Given the current events, this judge is more than likely thinking of himself. Cut and run, the VanDerSloots are going down and who really cares about the Kalpoes. He didn’t have an option at this point, a different ruling would have been a disasterous move to his career. Put the ball back in KJs court. She will end up being the scapegoat in the end.

    6. mayan_moons on December 7th, 2006 8:33 pm

      A week or so ago Aruba tourism is promoting itself as “being past Holloway” before any court has even made a ruling.

      Now a ruling has been issued….lookie there.

    7. para2legal on December 7th, 2006 8:39 pm

      Well, well, seems that after 18 months, someone on the island is finally “getting” it….IS there soon going to be Justice for Natalee? I’m not getting my hopes up yet, this could be yet another smoke screen.
      God Bless Beth and Dave, their families and friends and all who are keeping this story in the forefront and those that are honoring the boycott.

    8. JusticeforNatalee on December 7th, 2006 8:43 pm

      The whole point, Aruba, is that you CAN’T “move past Holloway” until you deliver JUSTICE.


      Natalee supporters here for the long haul.

    9. mac on December 7th, 2006 8:44 pm

      Thank-GOD. Just a matter of time now. I say they are arrested before Christmas. They have all the evidence they need.

    10. Kat_Gram on December 7th, 2006 8:46 pm

      This is but a crumb. But it is a good start.

    11. dennisintn on December 7th, 2006 8:49 pm

      #6, aruba won’t be “past holloway” until the perps are in jail for keeps, and natalee’s remains are returned to her home. and then they can start rebuilding the character of their govt., every lie and innuendo they have made about natalee and beth and other family members will haunt them for a long time. a defendant who blames the victim for his crimes is stupid enough, but when the govt. l.e., and businessmen join in the bash, it’s unconscionable, and stomach turning. i, for one, would not want to rub elbows with, or smile at, or be even faintly friendly with people who do those kinds of things.

    12. Observer on December 7th, 2006 8:57 pm

      It is time to end this now. Whether you have come forward before or not its time that the “Pimps” receive there justice. They are not even aruban and they are slowly killing your country!!

      Yes we all know the ALE and your Govt doesnt want anyone to find the mudered teenager. It is time that you took a chance and contacted holland. You may have already told what you know but it has been 18 months and its obvious they destroyed all the evidence.

      We all know rudy croes approved the coverup and paulus and his friends did the rest. We know they destroyed all the evidence as well as natalee. So how will we get justice? Well if you are that scared email the poor family and work it out so you can come to the states and get protection until they prosecute and clean up your police force and govt.

      You can do it for aruba. Or you can do it for justice.

      Dont be a coward!! Make the call!!

    13. GO TIGERS / WOLVERINES! on December 7th, 2006 8:59 pm

      Newbie here…

      Had these alleged crimes been committed on domestic soil would there be sufficient evidence for a grand jury indictment?


      SM: had this crime been committed on domestic soil, the 3 would have been interogated day one, their clothes and itens would have been taken and tested for DNA.

      Also, JVDS’s property would have been searched 100%, not just a suspects home.

      Please read the statements as well … there is a world of knowledge there as well.


    14. JusticeforNatalee on December 7th, 2006 9:02 pm

      Janssen, get off your DUFF and start CHARGING!
      (and I don’t mean with your credit card!)

    15. Beth on December 7th, 2006 9:15 pm

      Karin Jensen:

      There are murder charges filed against perpetrators based on circumstantial evidence everyday. Who made this rule that you supposedly have in play: No body, No crime?

      Isn’t it possible that you have failed in your job as a protector of the innocent and a prosecutor against those that keep your island in a state of fear and panic? Who do you work for, the political system of your happy island or the people? Does a person have to be one of your own to deserve your justice or are you an island that prosecutes crime based on the families involved?

      You, more than anybody, are responsible for the sloppiness that has been tolerated in the investigation of this crime. If you can’t do your job, maybe you should step aside. Have you no regard for truth? Have you no regard for justice? Have you no regard for the safety of your people and their families and friends?

      How could you have possibly gotten your ego so involved in this case? What good are you, or anyone for that matter, if you have allowed this case to leave you looking both ignorant and stubborn? Are you a man, a mouse or a donkey?
      Isn’t it YOUR job to set personal feelings aside and prosecute those that break the laws of your island and, if not, then who? Is it possible to seek justice for a family if you have allowed yourself to dig your heels in under the false pretense that most tourists simply walk away never to be heard from again? You are wrong; and while I believe that everyone can change, I suggest that you change. Just do your job, that’s the LEAST you can do.

      I have seen a resolve that I have not witnessed in any other single case. Why? Isn’t it true, that this crime, has come to represent every man, woman and child that falls victim of foul play when they least expect it? On vacation? With friends celebrating graduation? Isn’t it becoming painfully clear to you that the whole world is looking to you to put an end to the games? Isn’t it true that this case is the one that cries out to you in the night? Please, please, listen to YOUR conscience and be a man. Stand up against the injustice that has become like a rabbid dog feeding on the grief, sorrow and pain of the ones left to carry the burden for this missing child of God.

    16. Tazman on December 7th, 2006 9:24 pm


    17. JusticeforNatalee on December 7th, 2006 9:29 pm

      Karin Janssen,


    18. Tazman on December 7th, 2006 9:30 pm





    19. Tazman on December 7th, 2006 9:36 pm

      Three blind mice
      three blind mice
      see how they run
      see how they run
      they all ran after
      the farmers wife
      who cut off their
      ______ with a
      carving knife
      did you ever see
      such a sight as
      three blind mice!!

      Three blind mice

    20. Richard on December 7th, 2006 9:36 pm

      Beth (15), Karen Janssen, unless appearances deceive, can never be a man.

      Neither can any of the van der Sloots or Kalpoes … but that’s quite another thing.

      As for this decision, the best thing I can do is to quote Winston Churchill:

      “This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”

      Let’s hope that we’re on the path to justice now. I have thought ever since the judge missed the first court appearance, with the (patently bogus) excuse given that he couldn’t get a plane, that the Dutch are stepping in and letting it be known that Aruba’s cover-up will NOT continue.

      Let’s hope that I am right. This decision might confirm it.

    21. Tazman on December 7th, 2006 9:36 pm


    22. Skyboxx on December 7th, 2006 10:07 pm

      I remember reading somewhere that Paulus and Karin may have been an item at some time? Is that true? Do they have a son together?

      Everyone sticks together in Aruba.

      Justice for Natalee

    23. Miss-Underestimated on December 7th, 2006 10:15 pm

      Okay, so now the judge has said there is reasonable evidence that the crime was committed against Natalee Holloway , now Ms. Janssen do what is in the best interest of Natalee Holloway, and Aruba, the place where you have called home. If you need help call someone, how about the DeVries? There are people that will help you with this case.

      Karin if you do not do what is right, your reputation will follow you and your family for generations.

      I have a question thou, are you gonna stay on in 2007, or are you gonna take your retirement? If you take a retirement then what?


    24. Miss-Underestimated on December 7th, 2006 10:18 pm

      BTW, what has Ms. Janssen brought forward to keep these creeps on the suspect list?

      Anita why did you call Freddy?

    25. Beth on December 7th, 2006 10:27 pm

      Richard (20) so Janssen is a lady? Huh! Any woman acting as prosecuter that could look the other way in this case should be considered incompetent!

      Wow that is a reeeeeeal eye-opener. I suppose that she is the same prosecutor that looked the other way in all those other cases of date rape, drug rape and gang rape that have been reported against these three and others in the past.

      I wonder what the Queen has to say about that? Has anyone been sending her letters? If I had her address, the first thing that I would ask would be for the resignation of the prosecutor. Who would allow any single person to have so much power as to dictate that a girl be forced to leave her family and friends because of falling victim to the fun and games of the likes of these three sick, sexually deranged individuals? How many more girls have to be raped, abused and murdered before something is done? Is having a young woman leave her family to live in safer surroundings away from stories and rumors, your idea of protection, prosecution and justice? Where is your sense of social responsibility?

      Karen, you are a disgrace to the human race but especially to that of your own gender. You prove to be incompetent not only as a protector and a prosecutor but also as a woman.

    26. nychic on December 7th, 2006 10:46 pm

      who knew that karin janssen was an artist

      check out her drawings:

    27. mayan_moons on December 7th, 2006 10:51 pm

      hey dennisinntn…..unbelieveable is it not that they’d have the nerve to say that in promotion of the island when no court ruling has been handed down. they think they are just gonna buffalo their way out of this. can you believe these clowns thinking that this was going away & better them thinking they are just gonna bulldoze their way though us & promote that flea bag, bed-bugs criminal island as “past Holloway”. Its almost funny and yes Aruba we are laughing…..laughing at you & telling you straight up that day by day, hotel by hotel and bit by bit we plan to shut you down.

    28. Geeky on December 7th, 2006 11:05 pm

      #25 Beth….. well stated! She is no real woman! She’s scum in my opinion!!!

      I keep hearing Jossy say they can be picked up at any time to be questioned. What am I missing here? Thought it was voluntary on their part now. ?

      Lord, please continue to give strength to the Holloway and Twitty family and friends.

    29. Minnesota Dad on December 7th, 2006 11:10 pm

      Can anyone tell me if they know what forensic evidence was ever taken from the suspect?

      There are numerous pictures of what Joran was wearing that evening. Did Aruba, even if it was 10+ days after, ever get the shirt and pants he was wearing that evening?

      How about the Kalpoes? They know what those boys were wearing. Did anyone get their outfits from that night?

      This would be investigation 101, but me thinks they didn’t even get this stuff.

      So, anyone know what forensic stuff they actually took from Joran’s apartment? md

    30. Kat_Gram on December 7th, 2006 11:20 pm

      Geeky, they cannt be picked up unless there is NEW information. Which makes sense in a legal way. Otherwise it would be harassement ? They can’t pick them up and ask the same old tired questions like :
      Did you do it ? ” No ”
      See you tomorrow. Have a nice day.
      Bye for now.

    31. katablog on December 7th, 2006 11:34 pm

      Yeah, if these perps can be picked up and questioned at any time, what was all that hooey last Christmas vacation that Joran the rapist couldn’t be picked up, it had to be voluntary.

      I know you all are wishing like I am that these thugs will end up in jail real soon. It ain’t gonna happen. Yes, Jossy is putting the pressure on, DeFries put the pressure on, but Aruba ain’t biting yet.

      No Karin Janssen isn’t going to file charges within the next 5 months with the way things stand right now. If she were, why on earth would she have not done it earlier and kept Aruba’s economy from going down the flusher?

      The fact that Aruba would dare to use Natalee’s name while promoting their drug and thug infested island is despicable. But it also is the clincher in my belief that Aruba ain’t gonna do a thing.

      What I do believe will happen is that sooner or later, someone who has retained evidence will break the code of silence (probably for money) by writing a book or going on a talk show in the USA.

    32. dennisintn on December 7th, 2006 11:35 pm

      #27, mm, in the last l8 mos., i have decided that aruba learns something only after they’ve had the $hit slapped out of them to get their attention. they’ve had ample opportunity to learn that we’re not going away until this affair is over to natalee’s families’ satisfaction. if it’s never satisfactorily concluded, we’re just not going to aruba, period.

    33. Geeky on December 7th, 2006 11:49 pm

      Thanks Kat_Gram, I see the point. I guess. I was getting my hopes up, hearing they can be brought in at any time….. just wanting it to happen, that is, with FBI & Dutch involved.

      Thank you Monkeys for all your work on this case, and letting those who care to see how things are going!!!!

    34. nurturer on December 7th, 2006 11:52 pm

      Seems Aruba has finally bent . . . but it has not broken.

      They still need to lose more revenue.

    35. Kat_Gram on December 8th, 2006 12:27 am

      Katablog… Drug and Thug.. Like it. A very apt description.

    36. nelson on December 8th, 2006 12:47 am

      I guess you guys still dont understand the legal system of Aruba. It was Karen Janssen which is the prosecuter that brought the case to the judge and if any decision from the judge its because of what Karen brought forward!!

    37. Carpe Noctem on December 8th, 2006 1:00 am

      LOL, Nychic… you cant’ be serious?

      At first I said no way… but this case
      has been so NUTSO, this would not
      surprise me one bit!


      Uh, Sir Skyboxx… er uh

      I heard that Paulus and Karin Jaansen did
      spawn, and that their ‘love child’ now
      works for the the ATA as an automechanic.

      Here’s the latest
      photo of said subject:

      Behold the MONKEY POWERRRR!

      I can fully understand people

      being reserved in their celebration

      of the Aruban judge’s latest ruling

      to keep J2K SUSPECTS.

      …but as for me, pardon me while I do the


      Thankkkkkkkkkkkkkk You…

      W a h o o Aruba !

    38. Boycott_Aruba on December 8th, 2006 1:09 am

      yes they do nurturer and i’m doing my part. whilst shopping with the crowds i made a sign to put on the front of my cart. I flattened a cardboard box & cut a small hole in four corners & ran shoestrings thru the holes to easily tie the sign on the cart. With a Sharpie it said



    39. nychic on December 8th, 2006 1:45 am

      carpe -

      did you check out those drawings ?

      looks like Anita may be her model !

    40. downloadingd on December 8th, 2006 3:02 am


    41. Beth on December 8th, 2006 3:14 am

      Nelson (#36)

      I understand what you’re saying but isn’t it also the prosecutors responsibility to prosecute those cases of sexual assault that were reported by several different victims? If Karen would have done her job in the first place maybe the perpetrators would have been stopped before committing THIS crime. I hope that you can understand me when I say that there have been several cases in which these three were accused of sexual assault through the use of drugging. In fact, I believe that they had assaulted several locals before graduating to committing their acts upon unsuspecting tourists.

      Plus, while this is certainly a victory for Natalee’s family, simply naming someone as a suspect in a murder case is a far cry from having them incarcerated. This decision was a no-brainer. These three men were the last persons seen with the victim. How could they NOT be declared as possible suspects? The prosecutors inability to launch an effective investigation into this case speaks volumns to the inability of the prosecutor to get anything done.

      I don’t know her, but I would say just from looking at this case and the endless number of crimes that these three men were suspected of, that her heart just wasn’t into it. Don’t the people of Aruba deserve to be protected from predators like that of Joran and Company? Isn’t the loss of life that is suspected in this case enough cause for those accusations to be taken seriously? Why isn’t the prosecutor doing more to investigate and bring charges against the perps for the other related crimes that they committed against others? From my point of view, that would be the first place to start. Obviously, if they were practicing such acts against women on a regular basis and were charged with those acts (noting that the victims are alive and could certainly point the finger at the ones responsible) making a case against them in the disappearance of Natalee would be alot easier and may just be the ticket to completing a successful prosecution of a crime based on circumstantial evidence.

      If the prosecutor has no heart for the victims of crime then what good is she?

      Tell me, what would you have done in her shoes?

    42. downloadingd on December 8th, 2006 3:15 am

      Karen Janssen, Anita, Mama Kalpoe,
      God loves you, but what you are hiding is hurting too many peolple! Please say a prayer tonight and ask for gods guidance. Please!!!

    43. Robert on December 8th, 2006 4:27 am

      # 25 Beth.
      Here are two adresses; but remember if there is anything the queen and minister can do it would be about the incompetence and supposed corruption:

      Her Majesty Queen Beatrix
      Kabinet der Koningin
      Postbus 20016
      2500 EA Den Haag, The Netherlands

      Ministerie van Justitie
      Dr. E.M.H. Hirsch Ballin
      Postbus 20301
      2500 EH Den Haag, The Netherlands

    44. Carpe Noctem on December 8th, 2006 5:29 am

      LOL, for real Nychic…
      that artwork explains everything.


      Ladies & Gentleman,

      At your next trip to the bar… aks for the ALL


      Yummy, oh what an Island Treat!

      –Justice 4 Natalee

      Miss Underestimated gave me the idea.
      I just slapped it together! heh heh :-)

    45. Robert on December 8th, 2006 6:20 am

      And here’s the adress of the ministre/ministry of “kingdom-relations” (part of ministry of internal affairs):

      Minister van Binnenlandse Zaken en Koninkrijksrelaties
      Johan Remkes
      Postbus 20011
      2500 EA Den Haag, The Netherlands

      And again: The queen and ministers cannot intervere with actual cases that are under investigation or in court but they can take action against incompetence and corruption (if these things are truly the case).

    46. Richard on December 8th, 2006 6:39 am

      No, Beth (25), I certainly wouldn’t call Karin Janssen a lady, as that term has connotations of decency and inherent worth. Wouldn’t call her a man, though.

      I’d just as soon not call her at all. Maybe “beneath contempt” if she doesn’t get going before the two-year statute of limitations … which I’m told isn’t necessarily genuine anyways. Just like all this stuff we’ve heard about plea bargaining; that they can’t do it in Aruba.

      At least one Dutch law professor said that they indeed CAN. If they want to, that is.

      So I’m nobody to ask about what the law is there, if there is any law there and if they know themselves.

      But I think we’re all heartened by this decision, common-sensical though it is. With this and the Peter deVries show, maybe something is likely to happen; my gut feeling is that the Dutch are exerting some kind of pressure somewhere, otherwise this ruling might have gone otherwise.

      Naturally, I don’t know that that is the case. But if we Americans and the Dutch people who are being alerted to what really happened in Aruba can work together, notifying legislators and such, and above all can continue our work on the boycott, then we might become an irresistable force.

      And Aruba is no immovable object.

    47. MIss-Underestimated on December 8th, 2006 8:30 am

      Carpe-LOL Tacopina Colada.

      MD. I thought the same thing. They had 10 days to clean it it up. Remember in pulp fiction where they called in Harvey Kietel to clean up the car with the headless man in it, before the wife came home?

      Does anyone know if Interpole was in the island when the Dutch investigated?

    48. JusticeforNatalee on December 8th, 2006 8:40 am


      Did you notice the “Women and Children First” category?


      Ms. Janssen, Remember, NATALEE?

      She is a young WOMAN who was killed on Aruba, where you “practice” LAW.

      When are you going to protect NATALEE’s rights? When are you going to care about HER?

    49. vicki on December 8th, 2006 8:49 am

      Thank God that this judge ruled and thank you KJ. I know it had to be your evidence…put together with Peters good work. Maybe now we are on the right road.
      #44 Carpe, you kill me with aruba joe.hahahahahahah tooooo funny.

    50. wreck on December 8th, 2006 8:53 am

      It is very hard to be heartened by this latest ruling. After all, this has happened several times (remaining as “suspects” while they continue to do NOTHING). This will never be resolved unless the rampant corruption is ended. I used to get encouraged by these rulings — never again! Until justice is ACTUALLY, finalized — I’ll be doubtful.

    51. Richard on December 8th, 2006 9:04 am

      If we Americans are to write to anyone, wouldn’t it be most effective to write to the prime minister? I’ve done that twice, and at least got back a reply (which is more than I’ve ever received from the White House, Condoleezza Rice or most TV and political people). I posted the reply here some months ago, and sent it on to the family.

      Regardless, maybe the best thing to do would be to pick one official in the Netherlands, agree on which one is the ideal one, and then keep writing. That’s the only way I can see that we can contribute in what COULD be effective.

      By the way, just wondering … some months back there was a media guy, think the name was Garrison, who posted here that he was in contact with someone who was about to spill the beans as to what happened, etc., etc. That was supposed to be released imminently.

      No word so far, to my knowledge.

    52. JusticeforNatalee on December 8th, 2006 9:10 am

      NATALEE was last seen alive with JOE TACOPINA’S CLIENT, JORAN.

    53. billdingallows on December 8th, 2006 9:21 am

      skybox, it was not karin and paulus that were said to have had a relationship, but karin and anita, and karin actually is urine’s father, thus the regret to put her son in jail, knowing how he’d be treated being the son of a hermaphrodite prossecutor. And rudy croes had been observed keeping sex slave and a close relationship with pqul sloot, and a chickago mob man like posner hires a crossdresser like the “rosie odonnel butch chic wannabee” taco man to protect the judges son who prostituted an american tourist at a rape party at croes house. Not to mention that the local bartenders drug the patrons on a regular basis , who’d whatn to visit that turd of and island floating off of venezuela’s ass?

    54. JusticeforNatalee on December 8th, 2006 9:33 am


      Jossy made the above comment on Greta’s show.

      If this is the case, why were the suspects permitted to refuse questioning a year ago?

      Remember when we were promised that J2K were being brought in and questioned about the timeline?

      Then the questioning didn’t occur and we were told it had to be on a voluntary basis.

      What was THAT about?!

    55. JusticeforNatalee on December 8th, 2006 9:40 am


      I agree.

      Let’s pick the most ideal official and then do a writing campaign.

    56. Mortella on December 8th, 2006 9:44 am

      Check out the shirt Joran was wearing for the “surprise” interview he did in The Netherlands I think for Good Morning America maybe. The one where the man supposedly just happens upon and surprises Joran on his way to class with his little back pack.

      It appears to be the identical shirt he was wearing in the photos taken inside C&C that fatal night as posted on RWV. Same color and identical plaid pattern.

      That was my first clue that the interview was in fact staged. But also, no they did not take the clothing the suspects were wearing the night Natalee disappeared.

      Probably for the same reason they never searched the main house at the Sloot compound.

      Afraid of what they would find.

    57. Mortella on December 8th, 2006 9:54 am

      Don’t forget to mark your mail and currency with the slogan to Boycott Aruba/Justice for Natalee.

      It is working for I saw Aruba used as a verb for the first time recently. It was caption on a photo and was meaning to abduct and make disappear.

      And Aruba has come to be a part of the language in a way they never expected, now associated with kidnapping, rape and making even the remains disappear while allowing the so obviously guilty perps go free.

      The elite Dutchies sold the Arubans a bill of goods that this would all go away in a short while, after all there is so much crime in the U.S. blah, blah, blah, lie after lie. How does it feel to have been totally suckered by your Dutch, Aruba? Did you really believe they knew what they were talking about? You got away with this crap with the fourteen year old boy that you lied about and lied about his mother but it has finally caught up with you now and in a big way!

      Aruba will never be “past Natalee Holloway” for many years to come at the best. Unless they deliver justice for her and give us an accounting for our citizen who disappeared after being lured to Aruba by their lies about safety, there is going to be no tourism to save.

      Better start planting those aloe vera plants big time, Aruba. You lied about being a safe place. And then blamed the victim for the actions of your own depraved predatory youth that you allow to run wild on One Crappy Island.

    58. Mortella on December 8th, 2006 9:57 am

      Check out the crime in Aruba on the Forum Murder and Crime Thread. Six murders already in 2006 and the party season just beginning.

      Go here and read how safe Aruba is and think how most of these crimes involve tourist or happen in the tourist district so it’s not like they are in a remote place. For such a small place this is a huge amount of crime.

      Maybe we all need to get together and file a class action law suit for their false advertising that they have a low crime rate when in fact it is sky high! Liars!!

    59. Sahara on December 8th, 2006 10:39 am

      6 murders on Aruba in 2006…has anyone been charged in any of them? Do they solve crime on the island or just cover it up?

    60. Robert on December 8th, 2006 10:42 am

      #51, 51.
      Writing to the prime-minister is a possibility as well of course. However the prime-minister is just the preseding minister of the ministers-council (and minister of general matters) and not more than that!!! The ministers themselves are 100% bosses of their departement. The ministers decide about lawproposels in the ministerscouncil by voting.

      So if you want to write some-one I would recommend: the queen (whom without a doubt has the most status and is in close contact with the ministers), the minister of justice and the minister of internal affairs and kingdom-relations; in that order. (See for adresses: 43 & 45)

    61. Pearl on December 8th, 2006 10:43 am

      They never documented any statements on May 31, 2005 at 3 AM in the morning, when Beth arrived at the VDS compound.

      They never went to pick up Satish to get his “version” of the “drop-off” at the Holiday Inn “LIE” that Deepak and Joran were busy telling Beth, with the help of Paulus, of course who had prepped everyone about what LIES to tell.

      Mind you, a child was missing!

      But no one from the ALE goes to pick up Satish, after Beth arrives at the Van der Sloot compound,in order to get Satish’s “version” of the “Holiday Inn” LIES?

      (Oh, that’s right. Deepak did state that they got rid of Satish because they were WORRIED about his ABILITY to hold ALL the LIES together about the:


      - the “BLACK MAN APPROACHED HER” LIE, along with the



      - “SHE FELL GETTING OUT OF THE CAR” LIE, and the “JORAN TRIED TO HELP HER” LIE, and the she said ” I CAN STAND ON MY OWN” LIE and the

      - “we dropped her off right in front of the LOBBY ENTRANCE” LIE and the



      Mind you, a child was missing!

      But the “Visibility Team” ( owned and operated by WHOM? and the liason of which is WHOM to the ARUBAN POLIS?) – doesn’t bother to pick up the phone after receiving an early morning plea for HELP by a Mountain Brook chaperone, pleading for help to find a MISSING AMERICAN GIRL who was TAKEN AWAY IN A CAR by 3 LOCAL MEN…and Aruba’s Visibility Team’s response is to do what…?

      They claim that they never TOLD the police.

      Mind you, a child was missing!

      The “she just kind of vanished” statement, from the Aruban instructor of “law” and “this is how our system works” statements sealed the deal, along with the kiss from the big island Judas to courageous mother of Natalee Holloway: Beth, where the big Judas bestows his kiss on the mother of a missing child, and who one day has government officials proclaiming: BLOOD FOUND IN DEEPAK’S CAR, and CONFESSION BY A SUSPECT TO THE KILLING OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY, and ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT NATALEE HOLLOWAY IS CONFIRMED DEAD, and that OFFICIALS KNOW THE LOCATION OF HER BODY, and THE SUSPECT IS LEADING POLICE TO THE LOCATION OF HER BODY, and THIS CONFESSION TOOK PLACE DURING INTERROGATIONS…..whereby, this Judas then has the arrogant audacity to CRUSH A CHILD’S VOICE AND TRUTH WHILE DENYING HER FAMILY THEIR BABY’S REMAINS IN ORDER TO ANNOUNCE THAT: “THIS WAS A MISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN”.

      No Aruba, not now, not ever.

      HER STORY!
      HER TRUTH!


    62. Melissa on December 8th, 2006 10:47 am

      This is a positive development. I get so tired of hearing these three are not “Arubians”. For so many years Aruba has blamed their massive amount of crime on “outsiders”. What is an Arubian? Every “Arubian” has a Dutch passport. Therefore, their nationality is Dutch NOT Arubian. Joran has a Dutch passport. Surinam people have a Dutch passport. Blaming is a characteristic of denial and we have seen Aruba is a master at denying and blaming. Finally, who let all these problematic “outsiders” into Aruba? Probably the same people who want to stop the time share tourists from staying more than thirty days. This island becomes more frightening every day.

    63. JusticeforNatalee on December 8th, 2006 11:02 am

      Thanks for your help, Robert!

    64. Richard on December 8th, 2006 11:04 am

      Robert, thanks for the observation. However, isn’t it true that the queen, like her British counterpart, “reigns but does not rule”? In other words, precedent means that she wouldn’t intervene (at least publicly) no matter what she thought?

      You certainly know more than I do … and I think all of us posters appreciate your participation, translation, etc.

      Hey, while typing this I just had another idea … could all of us Monkeys write to Mickey Johns? I wonder if Jossy Mansur could provide us with an address … Hell, I’m going to email him and ask!

      We could encourage Mickey Johns to take legal action, or at least come out and be heard. He was another victim, and is a local to boot. Maybe his voice would count for something on the island of Aruba.

    65. Richard on December 8th, 2006 11:06 am

      And Mortella (57), I think that Aruba Aloe can be part of our boycott targets. The stuff is probably poisonous anyway.

    66. Robert on December 8th, 2006 11:17 am


      Yes, your’e absolutely right… That is… Officialy she just reigns… But this queen is a tough lady! She wants to know EVERYTHING that goes on in the country. And especialy things that go radicaly wrong. When you can convince her about wrongdoings in this case… She’ll convince the minister!!! I’ll bet you… And there are not many ministers that disregard her opinion… So.., my advice: WRITE HER!

    67. justice4nat on December 8th, 2006 11:20 am

      #26, #39 and #48….if you look more in depth on that website, it is NOT the same Karen Jannsen as the Aruban prosecutor. There is a picture of the artist and she has long black hair. Though if I were her, I’d change my name….

    68. Pearl on December 8th, 2006 11:32 am


      thought out


      On your question if I you can give you the description of large dark guard, who stood at the lobby and walked up to the girl when we arrived there, I will answer you the following:

      - he is approximately 1.70 meters tall
      - he has a strong build
      - he has close-cropped black hair
      - he wore a black t-shirt
      - he wore black cotton long trousers which most of the guards wear and
      - he held a walkie talkie in his hands

      If I see the guard again, I will not recognize him.

      (Did Paulus tell Joran, Deepak and Satish not to be “too indentical” in their descriptions of the LIE-FAKE-GUARD they all made up together at their MEETING on May 30 after they murdered Natalee, the MEETING THEY ALL HAD TOGETHER that went into the early morning hours of May 31?)


      On your question if I can give you a better description of the large dark man, who had walked up to the girl from the lobby, I can tell you the following:

      - he is approximately 1.85 meters tall
      - he has a heavy set body
      - he has close-cropped hair
      - he wore a black t-shirt
      - he wore a black cotton long trousers which most of the keepers use and
      - he kept walkie talkie in its hands and according to me he spoke by means of the walkie talkie.

      If I see the guard again, I will recognize him.

      I wonder what Arlene Ellis Schippers definition of OBSTRUCTION of JUSTICE is?

    69. MIss-Underestimated on December 8th, 2006 11:36 am

      Excellent post Pearl.

      The pigs are rotting in the heat.

    70. Beth on December 8th, 2006 12:25 pm

      Thanks Robert!

      The FIRST person I’m going to write is the Queen. I suspect that her visit was a clear indication that she is interested in taking a look into this case. Hopefully, we can all do our share to help her to understand what went wrong and how painful it has been for Natalee’s family and friends. Reigning is the most powerful of all positions. While she can’t rule specifically, as one in a court of law is expected to rule, she is the only one in the position to bring about fairness. Clearly, there is corruption and favoritism displayed publicly as a big middle finger pointed toward ANY one that has had the nerve to try to conduct a fair investigation into the actions of the Van der Sloot’s son and those associated with him. Perhaps she is the only one that has the clout to actually DO something about it.

      We are talking about

    71. JusticeforNatalee on December 8th, 2006 1:07 pm

      Okay, Robert has given us three officials to contact.

      Let’s get going.

      Remember to get your points across in a respectful way.

      Also, it’s a good idea to spell check before you send; makes a better impression.

      Off to write…

    72. LilPuma on December 8th, 2006 1:12 pm

      Aruba, you showed us what you thought of Natalee and Beth and by doing so, you showed us what you thought of us. Why would I want to spend my time with you? Why would I give you my money? People say “Don’t blamed all Arubans!” Yet you have labeled us, shown resentment towards us. Cowboys. Americans busting up crack houses. Arrogant Americans wanting to do it their way. You don’t understand our system. Calling the police on Greta because she knocks on Nadira’s door. Following Beth and Jug. Telling Dave not to search because it would look bad to tourists. Making the family search because you wouldn’t. The US media put too much pressure on you. If this was America………… If it was America, a search warrant would have been executed – in full – as soon as the boys lies came to light. No pillows, blankets or arguing with the guards. No 9 days to cover evidence or finish school. No driving yourself to jail. No calls by a suspect to friends who have given a witness statement. No friend of the suspect’s family as chief prosecutor or judge. I pray there will never be another high school girl, whose rape is filmed by schoolmates, who has to move rather than press charges – in America or Aruba.

    73. SL-Gloria on December 8th, 2006 1:21 pm

      We could encourage Mickey Johns to take legal action, or at least come out and be heard. He was another victim, and is a local to boot. Maybe his voice would count for something on the island of Aruba.

      Comment by Richard | December 8, 2006, 11:04 am

      Mickey is an immigrant, has a petty theft record, is a well-known tourist stalker …even if the detention was morally unfair, it was part of an investigative process, which by the applicable canon, was legal. His voice may count for a one-way trip back to Grenada.

    74. JusticeforNatalee on December 8th, 2006 2:35 pm

      I just finished a letter to the Minister of Justice (Netherlands).

      I pointed out Judge Bob Witt’s on-the-spot change of the approved search warrant.

      We need to name specific events and people to make our case of

    75. nychic on December 10th, 2006 6:05 pm

      SL-Gloria -

      I would be very interested to know what the
      “investigative process” was that you speak of ?

      One beach dealer accusing the other of invading his
      territory perhaps ?

      Also, why are Mickey John’s former petty theft charges
      even relevant when speaking of his right to file the
      same wrongful arrest charges as Paulus ?

      Maybe Paulus’ “history” should be part of an investigative process as well !

    76. Sharon Chicago on December 11th, 2006 10:12 am

      FOX NEWS yesterday, Sunday: Kimberly knows what questions to ask and comments to make, so unlike Greta…I was so happy listening to the update on Natalee’s case.

      We are getting closer to a resolution! I believe the guilty will pay for their crimes…:o)

    77. super dave on December 12th, 2006 5:28 pm


    78. Hans on December 28th, 2006 1:53 pm

      I have read lots of information on this website and other informers. i can understand the pain that the Holloway family is dealing with and i would like to inform you that my heart is with you… joran van der sloot definitely has something to do with the disappearance of Nathalie. every girl and guy of that age wants to party and will never think that it results in something horrible like this. The gouverment made huge mistakes on this case and this is even terrible for the parents. They can never recover from this loss and only because of a criminal like joran and his friends. i will never understand why aruba made it possible for a suspect to leave the country/ island. this is stupid, it is welknown that you can never leave the country as long as you are a suspect. unbelievable!!! i hope this guy will get what he deserves and that must be worse than what has happend to nathalee. Holloway family i think about you in my prays and hope that you will find the answers you are looking for.

      best wishes,

    79. Betty on January 11th, 2007 1:45 am

      I don’t know the laws in Aruba but here in the usa if you fail to to covict them and they go free you can’t charge them again if they stand up and tell them they killed Natalee

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    81. anjelica on March 23rd, 2010 6:39 pm

      heyyyyyy think of it as if it was yall girlfriens!!!!!! yall or you joran jux ruined her lyff….. if you have anything to say send me an e-mail <3 -anjelica

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