Aruba Quick to Rush Loan ($$$) Issue to Court … Aruban Lawsuit against the Netherlands

 

When its about money and loans, Aruba seems to find the fast track and expedite lawsuits in Dollarthe courts. When its about missing American tourists … that seems to be another issue. Priorities.

Amigoe, October 31, 2006: Lawsuit against the Netherlands 

ORANJESTAD – If by this Friday the Netherlands does not change her position regarding the foreign loans, the Aruban government will take them to court.  The relations between the countries got this worse that Aruba will not be present at the governmental deliberations on the new political relations within the Kingdom this Wednesday.   

 

Premier Nelson Oduber already announced last week that if the Netherlands continues to stand by the conditions regarding the foreign loans, he would lodge an internal appeal. 

The government’s position is now, that if the Federal Council of Ministers does not approve the 50 million dollars loan of the Deutsch Bank, Aruba will go to court and also claim compensation for the damages caused by canceling the loan.

‘The Netherlands has made us autonomous in 1954 and Aruba alone at the Round Table Conference in 1983.  And now in 2006, the Netherlands wants to colonize us again”, said Oduber. Last week Monday, Minister Atzo Nicolaà ¯ invited Aruba to attend the governmental deliberation on the new relations within the Kingdom as observer.  This two-day deliberation starts Wednesday in The Hague.  The Minister Plenipotentiary was going to do this at first, but he has meanwhile cancelled. 

 



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    61 Responses to “Aruba Quick to Rush Loan ($$$) Issue to Court … Aruban Lawsuit against the Netherlands”

    1. Arubaanse on October 31st, 2006 11:29 am

      Ow my lovely island of Aruba…These morons are dragging you down. :(

      HAPPY HALLOWEEN TO ALL AMERICANS ON THIS BLOG.:)

    2. LilPuma on October 31st, 2006 11:30 am

      Are the people of Aruba against colonization? I can understand their desire for independence, just as Puerto Rico has voted not to become a U.S. state. However, their economy is tanking; perhaps more oversight by The Netherlands is in order. There does seem to be a degree of Us vs. Them (Arubans vs. Dutch) going on over there – the Dutch being the ones with real power – while Arubans are the second-class citizens. Hopefully some Aruban and/or Dutch posters will offer some insights.

    3. LilPuma on October 31st, 2006 11:34 am

      “When its about money and loans, Aruba seems to find the fast track and expedite lawsuits in the courts. When its about missing American tourists … that seems to be another issue. Priorities.”

      It’s true that Aruba was very slow to respond to the crisis of a missing tourist. When Dave Holloway arrived in Aruba, the police all knew of Americans going to the crackhouses, but did not know there was a missing American girl. When pictures were taken of Joran in KIA, judges, attorneys, and citizens were out in force within hours. Another example of their priorities. Sure makes Hawaii, Orlando, Las Vegas and Montreal look like good places to travel.

    4. vicki on October 31st, 2006 11:36 am

      With all of this fighting going on I wonder if the Queen will still visit LIERUBA? Can someone tell us what happened to arubasteve????Bizarre the way people go missing on that “happy” place.

    5. MIss-Underestimated on October 31st, 2006 11:39 am

      How does it feel Aruba, to have someone pulling your puppet strings. Does anyone remember what Beth was told…..shut up or we’ll close the case.

      As they say at that fast food place
      I’M LOVIN IT.

      THE CIRCLE OF KARMA…..

    6. JusticeforNatalee on October 31st, 2006 12:17 pm

      Aruban authorities:

      How about stepping up the pace to get JUSTICE FOR NATALEE!

      Get off your lard butts and get cracking!

      INVEST IN JUSTICE
      INVEST IN WINNING BACK AMERICAN TOURISTS
      ONLY JUSTICE WILL DO

    7. mayan_moons on October 31st, 2006 12:24 pm

      Going to sue for the loan & damages?

      LOL

      This is getting good!

    8. windy city on October 31st, 2006 1:13 pm

      This sounds like a spoiled kid sueing his parents because they cut of his allowance for mis-behaving. Priceless.

    9. Richard on October 31st, 2006 1:14 pm

      I sure hope this peeves the Dutch to no end. Their little island is becoming more and more of an annoyance to them every day. Remember, in the 1990s (I forget the year) the Dutch actually went into Curacao and kicked out the people who were running the financial end.

      That’s right; they decided that it was so corrupt that Curacao couldn’t be trusted to oversee its own finances.

      Let’s hope the Dutch come to their senses, realize the bunch of clowns, buffoons, drug dealers and outright scum who are in charge of Aruba (this is not intended to be a slur toward Arubaanse or any other of our Aruban friends here) … and TAKE OVER THE LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND GET ANSWERS FOR NATALEE’S FAMILY AND ALL OTHER AMERICANS.

    10. Richard on October 31st, 2006 1:15 pm

      Hey, if Aruba wins this suit … think Paulus vdScum will go to court saying that he deserves a bigger reward?

    11. Carpe Noctem on October 31st, 2006 1:26 pm

      HAPPY HALLOWEEN

      Your reception ain’t getting any better Aruba!

      http://tinyurl.com/yblz2r

      -J4N-

    12. vicki on October 31st, 2006 1:52 pm

      #11 Oh my goodness carpe that is so realistic. hahahahahahaha

    13. chris on October 31st, 2006 2:01 pm

      Arubaanse, Happy Holloween to you as well. My wish for you and the GOOD people of Aruba is that one day soon all the slime will have gone and you’ll recapture what you once knew as a beautiful place…..chris

    14. John Staton on October 31st, 2006 2:11 pm

      Having received a stamp of non approval from the Deutsch Bank, if they do refinance through another source can you imagine the interest rate and required asset pledge (collateral )? Again Aruba, these people are not in the BUSINESS of charity toward Aruba. The current credit rating for Aruba looks like Collections ahead not prosperity.

    15. MIss-Underestimated on October 31st, 2006 2:25 pm

      Carpe priceless TRICK OR TREAT

      Happy Halloween

    16. mayan_moons on October 31st, 2006 2:40 pm

      lol Carpe!

    17. mayan_moons on October 31st, 2006 3:09 pm

      Come on!

      Can you believe these clown! Who do you know in the REAL WORLD that loans money after such a threat has been issued by the borrower? The threat for damages i’m sure has the Netherlands attention & i don’t think they are laughing. If Netherlands kicked out officials in Curacao in years past maybe there is hope for Aruba and justice for Natalee.
      One thing is certain…..we will NEVER stop hounding Aruba & working for the complete destruction of their economy untill we get the truth & whatever is left of Natalee is brought home to her family.

    18. mayan_moons on October 31st, 2006 3:59 pm

      In this material, money lovin,self absorbed(magnify 10 fold for Aruba) world we live in thousands of Americans halted their busy lives & took note of a young beautiful(inside & out) smart American named Natalee Ann Holloway. A girl who had the world by the tail due to her hard study. She was snatched out of her family and her country and out of her very own life. Aruba was counting on us being like them & not care, they’re under the notion that we have short memories. Wrong on both counts Aruba.

    19. John on October 31st, 2006 4:25 pm

      1986 That’s the reason the Dutch are trying to overpower Aruba. You guys never got it, it has always been about the Dutch vs Arubians. It was Jan Van Der Straten, who was appointed by NL, that handled the Natalee Holloway Case. It’s also Paul Van Der Sloot, who came to Aruba appointed by the Dutch and his son who are involved in this case. And blindly you guys believe the Dutch are going to help Beth? This is what the Dutch want, to control Aruba once again. Thank you Americans! Happy Halloween!

    20. Dave on October 31st, 2006 4:37 pm

      John = TROLL

    21. dennisintn on October 31st, 2006 4:38 pm

      #ll, carpe, it wants for an OFF switch.
      dennisintn

    22. Kat_Gram on October 31st, 2006 4:50 pm

      Arubaanse …
      HAPPY HALLOWEEN TO YOU ALSO.
      the kat

    23. mayan_moons on October 31st, 2006 4:54 pm

      Uh no…..#19

      There is NO blind belief in Dutch,Aruba here, if it were there would be no boycott going on. Duh It may have been all about Dutch vs Aruba for ya’ll but all its ever been about for us is NATALEE. Nothing Else Matters

    24. mayan_moons on October 31st, 2006 5:06 pm

      lol dennisintn!

    25. super dave on October 31st, 2006 5:21 pm

      #19 the dutch are just as guilty as aruba. i believe they all know what happened to Natalee .

    26. Tazman on October 31st, 2006 6:14 pm

      Sounds like Holland has cut Aruba’s tow line.

      WE WANT JUSTICE FOR NATALEE HOLLOWAY!!

    27. Tazman on October 31st, 2006 6:16 pm

      #18

      Like I said:

      Holloway/Twitty’s = Good
      Vandersloots, et al = Evil

    28. JusticeforNatalee on October 31st, 2006 6:20 pm

      NO 911 CALL

      NATALEE’S BODY HIDDEN/DISPOSED

      FOUL PLAY

    29. Allan K on October 31st, 2006 7:55 pm

      I agree with the above except that nut John

    30. gulf to bay on October 31st, 2006 8:37 pm

      Its only going to get worse. You idiots and to think you didnt see it coming. Look how desperate your getting everyday. I would like to see all the cool arubans get together and storm the capitol take there island back because its in there blood and heritage and screw the perveted dutch that shield themselves with there manipulated laws. Im suprised it hasnt happened already. Why should arubans livleyhood and homeland be dragged thru the mud for favoritsm towards a dutch punk that cant pick up a girl if he tried. And that thinks he is protected because of his dad. They need to be shown what the consequence is for doing what they did to an American female tourist. They showed us how they feel about us. Lets show them how we feel about them. These guys need to get what they gave natalee ten times over. Take your island back aruba dont let these coward dutch do as they please without consequences. The U.S could parachute some special forces in there dead of night grab the van der sweats give them the real deal u.s style approach and get the answers. They have always had the answers. I dont think anyone wants to be associated with aruba. If holland doesnt crack the case and do justice then i think they will distance themselves from aruba. As in you guys are stupid and we dont know ya anymore. And of course no loans. Are you kidding. They did this to themselves.

    31. Carpe Noctem on October 31st, 2006 8:59 pm

      Hi Klaas,

      Just curious

      The air seems cleaner and fresher as of late…

      What have you been doing to our favorite trolls?

      I am liking life without them!

      ————

      Hiya Arubaanse,

      …and a Happy Halloween to yourself, girl.

      I hope all is well with you. Stay warm,
      I know it has to be colder than a witch’s
      kitty over there right about now!

      ____________

      SM:   The troll is gone thank goodness.   Not before posting a foul mouthed post that got deleted again.   Also admitted to also being Johnm.   Anyway…GONE :)    (klaasend)

    32. Maggie on October 31st, 2006 9:18 pm

      I knew that was John M months and months ago when they said they were in Michigan and all those ?????????????? and !!!!!!!!!!!!! He was the only one who did that. A transvestite great.. rofl. I just started ignoring them over a month ago no matter what they said to me. It was apparent they were here just to get people mad and spend all their time arguing with them. A retired math teacher. poor students.

    33. dutchhog on October 31st, 2006 10:55 pm

      WELL,WELL!!THEY WANTED INDEPENDENCE FROM THE NETHERLANDS!this is how it feels like!!what a f@#$%Ã ®ng!!!….if the dutch will give them one cent, Ã ­’ll be very dissapointed!!independence from the dutch will give them the same as what happened in suriname!!a third world country!!LET THE DUTCH IN!!YOU INCOMPETENT PRICKS!!…..and uhhh GULF TO BAY do the I.Q.test i’ll bet you don’t get over 8 in total!!

    34. molly on October 31st, 2006 11:34 pm

      So pelmelkel smoked himself out, did he? It’s about time. So glad that annoying pestilence is gone.

      How can Aruba sue the motherland? Don’t they know that the queen can swoop down and smother them with her royal robe? The end of help from Holland. Bite the hand that feeds you, Aruba. You seem to be good at doing that.

      molly (in Houston)

    35. Ramlady on November 1st, 2006 1:24 am

      Carpe, Maggie, and Molly: See #33; yet another side of the same coin?

    36. mayan_moons on November 1st, 2006 2:59 am

      tri-polar!

    37. Carpe Noctem on November 1st, 2006 5:07 am

      I’ve heard of that…

      Fred MacMurray got it from that tv show. Wicked stuff!

    38. gulf to bay on November 1st, 2006 7:13 am

      justice for natalee holloway! Or an eye for an eye.

    39. Libby on November 1st, 2006 9:54 am

      I don’t see the Dutch / Aruba ever allowing “legal” justice for Natalee. They are never going to admit what they did to her or where she is. They are never going to give the family justice. What they don’t realize is they are screwed either way.

      If they admit that they drugged, repeatedly raped an American woman to the point of death then disposed of her body as though it were trash then allowed and paid off the government officials to cover it up, can you imagine the publicity? If they continue to lie and cover the crimes against Natalee and never give the family closure, they are still screwed.

      In my personal opinion…and they are too stupid and arrogant to realizse this…admitting what happened to Natalee and prosecuting the guilty individuals would at least put closure to the case and at some point, it will go away…for the most part. However, the continued lies and cover up will never allow this to go away. It will hang over them like the plague forever. We are NOT going away Aruba until you do the right thing.

    40. SL-Gloria on November 1st, 2006 10:12 am

      # 19, John:

      When potentially troubling moments and or embarrassing international situations take place, Aruba looks to The Hague, brags about its relationship with the Kingdom and flatters its riches; a servile self-seeking behavior. However, when Holland demands order and tries to secure a good use of the resources the island wants to borrow, we read about claims of a renewed interest in colonialism.

      True autonomy comes with self-sufficiency. Self-determination springs from self-reliance. And being self-reliant means, among other things, assuming responsibility for your debts, and not asking others to be your guarantor without assurances of a particular outcome.

      As long as Aruba relies on The Netherlands’s contributions for its survival and as long as the island continues to feed on Holland without giving anything back, it will not become independent.

      But before achieving “total freedom”, Aruba should think twice about what it wishes, and give consideration to the alternative definitions of independence it wants to apply to itself: the concept of freedom desired by an enslaved society or the more contemporary concept of freedom, where a society develops within an organized production economy by means of which its citizens can freely earn a living, educate their children, accumulate savings for the future, live in peace and prosper.

    41. molly on November 1st, 2006 10:14 am

      Ya, we will never go away….echo, echo, never go away, never go away.

      Justice for Natalee

      molly (in Houston)

    42. airgame12 on November 1st, 2006 10:28 am

      November 1st D DAY………wonder how long we will have to wait to see what is happeneing??

    43. Sharon Chicago on November 1st, 2006 11:50 am

      SM will be checking blog today for updates from Holland.
      I am believing in the end whether Holland or our FBI that
      justice will come forth for Natalee.

    44. linda on November 1st, 2006 12:01 pm

      Hi Guys..Totally different subject..but the judge didn’t show up today for Deepak and Satish..they set a new date..

    45. Libby on November 1st, 2006 12:01 pm

      If we haven’t received “legal justice” for Natalee yet…and it has been almost 1 1/2 years, we aren’t going to get “legal justice”.

      I think an eye for eye will have to be our justice

    46. Richard on November 1st, 2006 12:47 pm

      Thanks for that news, Linda. Guess it shows what the Aruba judges are made of … pandering butt-kissers who have to be told what their political masters want them to do, and whether they think the media will blast them.

      What was the new date?

    47. linda on November 1st, 2006 12:53 pm

      Richard:The judge is from Curacao..no new date..probably next year..

    48. airgame12 on November 1st, 2006 1:43 pm

      Ifthis is true about the court, just proves they havent had enough time to fully make sure the Dutch now how to cover it all up. What bullshit!!!

    49. Sharon Chicago on November 1st, 2006 2:20 pm

      Once again…just waiting on the Dutch…hmmmmm …
      too quiet…Kelly not talking….hmmmm…would be just
      a wonderful suprise if the Dutch just hauled their butts
      back in to be interrogated again…and this time getting
      answers instead of lies… If the Dutch mean business
      they should be able to get the truth out of one of those
      lieing sacks of poop!

    50. JusticeforNatalee on November 1st, 2006 5:20 pm

      Okay–so the judge dissed the Kalpoes.
      What does it mean?

    51. linda on November 1st, 2006 7:29 pm

      Justice,that means that our goverment is corrupt and do whatever they like and want..as you already know..this is pure politics..thejudge got probably paid for staying away..because they do not want to close this case..cause they know the media will be all over them again!!

    52. Richard on November 1st, 2006 8:13 pm

      Linda, at least if what you’re saying is true, that shows that Aruba is wising up. Maybe the Aruban government is beginning to draw a connection between its treatment of the Holloway Twitty family and its absence of tourists.

      Since Nelson Oduber came out publicly and said, in an interview with a Dutch newspaper, that he wanted the case closed as soon as possible, it could be that the Dutch have given a quiet cue that it had better not be closed prematurely … that doing so might blow up in some people’s faces. And that some people face jail time.

      Let’s hope, very hard.

      Meanwhile, here’s a question for Arubaanse, Linda, and any and all Arubans who come here: which American radio stations are most popular on Aruba, if any? AM or FM?

      Which ones draw audiences for which kinds of programs (country music, news, classical music, rock, you name it)? Is there any one station that is widely listened to?

      I’d like to know this as I am working on an idea … thanks very much for letting me know.

    53. IndyDan on November 1st, 2006 9:06 pm

      #49 – I do admire your optimism Sharon.

    54. IndyDan on November 1st, 2006 9:07 pm

      Our pesky little troll has finally been banned? Good riddance, and just when I finally decided to make the move into the cage. Thank you Klaas!

    55. Carpe Noctem on November 2nd, 2006 4:53 am

      Wow, so the judge just didn’t show, huh?

      GOOD.

      I hope the Kalpoe Bros. are forced to walk around for eternity not knowing what will happen to them regarding
      their futures.

      In my heart, I believe it is what they helped do to the Holloway – Twitty families. Natalee’s family members are tortured daily wondering what happened to their daughter that awful night
      on Death Island
      - Aruba.

      They should have jail time right now solely for the lies they helped the Van der Rapes tell
      alone!

      Justice 4 Natalee!

    56. MIss-Underestimated on November 2nd, 2006 9:27 am

      Hey Aruba looking for some quick cash.

      There still is a reward for Natalee Holloway.

    57. molly on November 2nd, 2006 11:01 am

      #54 YAY, banned, gone, clean air.

      #55 Much relieve to hear that the judge didn’t show. More time for someone to work behind the scenes, or in front of the scenes if they wish, to get to the truth. No more BS judgements for the VDSlimes or the Kowpoops.

      Hello to Linda and Arubaanese.

      molly (in Houston)

    58. luap on November 3rd, 2006 11:16 am

      The Netherlands still approved Aruban loans

      ORANJESTAD — The dispute between Aruba and the Netherlands on the foreign loans is
      over for the time being. Yesterday around 15:00, minister Atzo Nicolaà ¯ (VVD) called
      Premier Nelson Oduber (MEP) on the phone, telling him that he will advice the Federal
      Council of Ministers tomorrow to approve Aruba’s loan of 50 million dollars.

      Oduber together with minister Rudi Croes (MEP) of Justice and Nilo Swaen (MEP) of
      Finance and Economic Affairs were about to leave for the Netherlands that same evening to
      talk to the Federal Council of Ministers about foreign loans. The reason for not going
      alone was that Oduber wanted to lodge an internal appeal if the Federal Council of
      Ministers (Dutch government) continues to hold on the conditions regarding Aruba’s
      foreign loans.

      Based on article 12, sub 3 of the Charter for the Kingdom of the Netherlands, a country can
      lodge an internal appeal if the Federal Council of Ministers does not agree on a matter.
      After the positive telephone call of Nicolaà ¯, the three ministers cancelled their trip to the
      Netherlands. Oduber says that Nicolaà ¯ also indicated that he has advised his
      colleague-minister Gerrit Zalm (VVD) of Finance to drop the conditions attached to
      Aruba’s foreign loans.

      The relationship between Aruba and the Netherlands were clouded when Aruba wanted to
      borrow 50 million dollars from the Deutsche Bank. The bank turned the loan request
      down, because the Netherlands didn’t sign. Zalm indicated that the conditions in article
      29 of the Charter for the Kingdom of the Netherlands should also apply to all loans that
      Aruba contracts. Currently, those conditions only apply to financial loans that Aruba
      contracts with financial institutions outside the Kingdom.

      amigoe 11/3/06

      As this little show has been going on since 2006 it might be appropriate to take an economics course after you get the egg off your face for factless reporting.

    59. Carpe Noctem on November 3rd, 2006 2:42 pm

      I think it more apropos the Nederlands
      might find a ‘cleanie wipe’ and wipe
      off the Aruban mustache
      they just received!

      You Dutch are the most pathetic
      group of piss ons I have ever
      witnessed in all my life.

      ——

      Have fun with your continuance of
      getting ‘whizzed on’ by an Island
      of throat slitting
      murderous VAN DER RAPE
      and tourist
      targeted
      EXECUTIONS.

      VISIT ARUBA TODAY
      WIND UP ON THE
      BOTTOM OF A WATER
      BASIN MURDERED
      TOMORROW!

      It’s the Aruban wayyyyyyy.

      ———–

      Screw you people -

      BOYCOTT ARUBA IN TO THE DIRT.

      Justice 4 Natalee Holloway!

    60. Sharon Chicago on November 3rd, 2006 3:14 pm

      When can we expect an update on the Holloway case. What is going on? Any leaks…what is the next step in the investigation by the Dutch….???

    61. Carpe Noctem on November 4th, 2006 8:01 am

      BOYCOTT THE DOG BULLETS OUT OF ARUBA!

      For the crimes Joran, Deepak, and Satish committed on Natalee Holloway.

      On 5-30-2005, they raped and murdered her. People keep open minds, but all roads in ARUBA lead back to the murdering raping VAN DER SLOOTS
      AND KALPOES!

      Even after 18 months after their crimes on her.

      The ARUBAN pathetic lies and ridiculous cover up is an outrage and insult to all.

      Here are some other great ARUBA BOYCOTT LINKS

      http://arubanboycott.blogspot.com/

      http://tinyurl.com/mg2fv

      “Boycott them in to the dirt. It may be the only JUSTICE Natalee may ever get. There is no justice right now in Aruba.”

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