“UN”believable … Mexico Might Take Fence (American Border Security) Dispute to the UN


“UN”-believable that the Mexican government would even think to take the matter of US border security to the United Nations. How “UN”imaginable that the UN is going to decide US police.  The most useless and ineffective group of individuals ever assembled who live the high life in NYC while many other their own people live in poverty.  News flash Mexico … you nor the UN have any say over a sovereign nations right to defend itself and protect its borders. If the UN even thinks that they will hear such a plea, can we toss them out of this country once and for all and utilize that NYC address for something productive.

Mexico’s foreign secretary said Monday the country may take a dispute over U.S. plans to build a fence on the Mexican border to the United Nations.

The Mexican government last week sent a diplomatic note to Washington criticizing the plan for 700 miles of new fencing along the border. President-elect Felipe Calderon also denounced the plan, but said it was a bilateral issue that should not be put before the international community.


Derbez said Monday after meeting with French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy that it was a “shame” U.S. immigration policy had been used for what he claimed was a short-term political gain in the lead-up to midterm elections in the U.S. in November. (Washington Post)

Earth to Mexico … we honestly do not care what you have to say. This is the United States, not Mexico. Do we tell you how to protect your borders? If the Mexican government could actually provide jobs and a living wage for its people, maybe Mexicans would not feel the need to come to the US. In a post 9–11 world a fence between Mexico and the US is twofold solution to problems, illegal immigration and security.

“What should be constructed is a bridge in relations between the two countries,” Derbez said. A bridge … yea right … we should build a moat in addition to the wall.

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    39 Responses to ““UN”believable … Mexico Might Take Fence (American Border Security) Dispute to the UN”

    1. justinsmama on October 10th, 2006 8:45 pm

      US land, US decision. Plain and simple.

    2. IndyDan on October 10th, 2006 8:48 pm

      Just wondering: if the Chinese can built one of the great wonders of the world hundreds of years ago that still standes today. It spans countless miles across the their border…gotta wonder why American technology hasn’t risen to the call with something along the much smaller border between Mexico and the US?

    3. dennisintn on October 11th, 2006 12:44 am

      lol, the u.n. works about as fast as aruba officials. the u.s. can duplicate the great wall of china before the u.n. gets around to ruling on it.

    4. robots on October 11th, 2006 1:11 am

      political correctness has got to stop

    5. blah on October 11th, 2006 6:26 am

      I’m with you robots – it’s time for the political correctness “fad” to go away.

    6. Brad on October 11th, 2006 7:26 am

      The US overruled the UN on Iraq and that was wrong, the muslim fanatics have got even more out of control.
      Saddam Hussain had nothing to do with radikal muslim fanatics, but now Iraq is all about radical muslim fanatics, a much bigger threat than Saddam (Rumsfelds pal from years back)ever was.
      I agree 100% the US should have control over its own borders, but when it comes to an international issue like Iraq it was not only very arrogant but wrong to ignore the UN.
      The UN are not always right, but the US also have a tendency to make the odd wrong decision as well.

    7. Brenda T. on October 11th, 2006 9:11 am


      Funny thing about “political correctness” is there is NOTHING correct about it at all! A bunch of whiners wanting to make sure no one’s feelings are hurt…but at the expense of what? Our sovereignty!?

      Sometimes feelings are hurt because those “hurt” are actually feeling guilt or shame. They are the ones who need to get it straight.


    8. kw on October 11th, 2006 10:36 am

      This ‘fence’ is LOOOONG overdue.

    9. Miss-Underestimated on October 11th, 2006 10:37 am

      Please read up about Sadaam before you post. The man was doing genicide, ethnic cleansing,yet there are those who stomp there feet and say this guy did no harm.

      I say put up a fence and huge yellow fence or Mr. Fox, have your country declared a US entity, we are already taking care of your people, you can’t have it both ways.

      UN (utterly useless) they have proven in time and time again, what are they doing about N Korea?

    10. Para2Legal on October 11th, 2006 12:32 pm

      Oh please no Miss U, take it back – we don’t want Mexico as our 51st state. Fox is peeved because a lot of the Mexican economy is generated by the money the illegals send back to their families after draining ours.
      Personally I hope the fence is 12′ tall with razor wire. I’m tired of supporting illegals.

    11. Para2Legal on October 11th, 2006 12:36 pm

      10 – I meant to say Fox doesn’t want to lose the $$$ coming back to his country from ours.

    12. Miss-Underestimated on October 11th, 2006 1:05 pm


      What I am saying that if Fox expects us to employ and take care of his citizens, then whe should be entitled to the Mexican economy( Cancun, Cabo San Lucas) etc.

      Why should we just be burdened with liabilities?
      Give us the assets too.

      Like I said Mexico can’t have it both ways.

    13. Brenda T. on October 11th, 2006 1:50 pm

      Para2legal, we knew what you meant ;>)

      I’m concerned it will be Mexico who attempts to “reclaim” American soil in the south-western states as their own.

      Why? Here you go:

      1. The pledge to Mexican flag being recited in American schools (CA, NM & AZ)…in Spanish of course.

      2. Their stubborn refusal to learn English

      3. They are demanding driver’s licenses

      4. MOST terrifying…want VOTING RIGHTS!!

      5. They pay no US taxes

      6. #5 means they get free public education, although a US citizen does not get that “luxury”.

      7. They get free health-care (since they don’t pay anyhow)

      8. They cause the crime-rates to rise anywhere they begin to populate.

      9. They are filthy and do not understand hygene

      10. They can get free college education since most grants don’t check into much background. (I went to college with a spanish girl from Cuba who was getting grants for black students as well! When I asked how, she simply stated, “I lied”. Nice, huh?)

      I don’t think I need to go on, what I wrote depresses me enough….

      As I keep saying, we’d better watch out. The enemy is within and growing daily. Here illegally? Then you are a criminal, period.

      Unfortunately, the only way to hurt Mexico economically is for those who use illegal drugs to stop buying the stuff coming in from Mexico….what else would actually matter to Mexico’s economy???


    14. Para2Legal on October 11th, 2006 2:59 pm

      Brenda – We get a job and part of the hiring process is to fill out the Federal income tax withholding form. If someone claims 99 dependents it’s waving a red flag in the face of the IRS. With that said…I have a friend in the restaurant business. Since none of the illegals have legit i.d.s all want to claim 99. As policy restaurant mgmt. won’t allow them to claim over 6. I asked her how many of the m. employees did this – she said, “all of them”. Not too many folks paying federal taxes with 6 dependents. Isn’t that something. And this is probably going on in 90+% of America’s restaurant industry.

      And did you know that unless you’re a M. citizen you can’t own beach front property.

    15. Houston on October 11th, 2006 3:33 pm

      A wall would keep the Mexican Army out of Texas.

    16. Richard on October 11th, 2006 3:47 pm

      It’s worth noting that, according to news reports, people from Central American countries try to sneak into Mexico, where the economy (possibly, in large part, because of the American and other companies that have built assembly plants there) is stronger, for jobs.

      And apparently those people are turned back at the point of a bayonet.

      Fair play, Mexico?

    17. Kate on October 11th, 2006 9:48 pm

      Just start building the fence already!!!!!

    18. yoyo muffintop on October 12th, 2006 12:14 am

      Brenda T – How and why would anybody believe anything you say after your racist comments you made? I am assuming you have this attitude towards all people that “look” of hispanic decent since you are not IDing them to see if they are legal. Am I right?

      You know what depresses me – that people with attitudes like you still exist.
      Wow, I am very surprised.

    19. the guyster on October 12th, 2006 1:58 am

      It is apparent that the wealthy Mexico politicians have continually done a lousy job governing and providing an acceptable quality of life for the majority their own citizens. Get a life. You are not remotely qualified to know what is best for the good ole USA.

    20. Brenda T. on October 12th, 2006 12:55 pm

      Call me racist if you want. I’m not, but don’t mind you knowing that I am prejudice (not racists) against anyone who comes to our country to take advantage and then shows complete disrespect for our people and laws. Take that however you want.

      My husband is dark-skinned (Syrian & English…mixed breed he says). I’m white as it gets. I get alot of “what color is your husband. Black or white?” I tell them dark brown. So maybe YOU are racists against ME assuming I am racist. (Boy, that was hard to even type.)

      I am my own individual and am speaking from experience of those I grew up with in Tampa. I was “redistricted” to a spanish H.S. after attending a Jr. H.S. in my neighborhood. It was 80% Spanish, 20% black and white. You figure where I fit in. Sorry, but the difference of EVERYTHING was staggering, horrifying, grew me up quickly in ways I did not need to grow up quickly…taught me there were drugs I never heard of in my other school….violence I thought was only in Miami…LOTS of pregnant 15 year olds…need I go on? Many did not speak English then in 79-81. We all carried knives.

      I work with a guy born/raised in Mexico City. He’s 100% opposite! Smart, clean cut, family guy. I am speaking of those who come here and have no intention of ever becoming “american”. If you don’t understand that, then just please consider me a racist because you’ll never get it.


    21. Miss-Underestimated on October 12th, 2006 3:00 pm


      Talk to any immigrant who came here legally, their feelings are pretty much the same as Brenda T.

      The legal immigrants are the people who are behind putting up a fence, go figure, so are they racist.

      Brenda T. I also was bussed away from a school in my neighborhood. WTF was that all about?

    22. Brenda T. on October 12th, 2006 3:08 pm

      Apparently, it was about being fair. I would have preferred the school that was within walking distance rather than the one so far away I had to get up at 6am…and so overcrowded we were on split session.


    23. yoyo muffintop on October 12th, 2006 3:38 pm

      Brenda – I guess I must have read 2 of your statements wrong:
      8. They cause the crime-rates to rise anywhere they begin to populate.
      9. They are filthy and do not understand hygene

      If you cannot see that inserting these two statements in your post does not qualify you as being even slightly racist, then I don’t know what to say. Do you feel the same way about african-americans? Same things were said about them 50yrs ago, and are currently being said about them by certain groups.

    24. yoyo muffintop on October 12th, 2006 5:16 pm

      No, miss-u, they are not racist for wanting a border fence. But you will not hear them calling illegal immigrants “filthy,lying,drug using people that should not populate” either. I live in a border state and know the burdens illegal immigration puts on a state. And I am pro border fence. But inserting racist rhetoric in an arguement against illegal immigration does not help but hinders.

    25. Jon on October 12th, 2006 10:36 pm

      Item 13 is so full of generalizations that it is beyond BS

    26. Brenda T. on October 13th, 2006 7:53 am

      Could not possibly care less if YoYo and Jon think I’m a racist. I’m not, and I know it which is more than enough for me.

      My ancestors fought for the north in the civil war AFTER those before them fought in the Revolutionary War (George McDonough from Ohio for those who would like to look into the archives and see for youself). I now live in the mountains of VA, so I guess I have to be racist because I’m in the south…right?

      As I stated before, my husband is olive skinned. Also, I have black and latino cousins. My daugter’s fiance is Armenian….so since YoYo and Jon are irrelevant in my life, figure out what your closed-minded opinions mean to anyone who doesn’t hold YOUR beliefs?! (Hint: no more than they mean to me.)

      All closed minded people generalize a person they’ve never met. Especially over life-situations where they have no experience themselves. I was describing my experience growing up. Re-read my posts. I am speaking of those coming in illegally and taking advantage. You need to go live in Miami or Ybor City in Tampa for about 6 months.


      P.S. If you go to Ybor, be in a group of 3 to 5 they say….with at least 2 being men if you want to make it down to the end of any street after dark….

    27. Brenda T. on October 13th, 2006 11:28 am

      Ok…just talked to my Mexican, IBM system administrator co-worker (who has taught me loads and loads about our IBM system). I explained to him about the discussion on scared monkeys and his perception of it. He said he doesn’t know why the INS wasn’t pulling busses up to those socialist demonstrations that were held earlier this year and deporting those people!

      Good Lord! 14 years in this country and HE IS RACIST NOW TOO against his own homeland! What about that yoyo and jon?


    28. LilPuma on October 13th, 2006 3:03 pm

      My concern about the fence is that it won’t solve the problem and we’ll keep paying to fix the holes.
      1. I would be in favor of increasing border patrols a thousand-fold or whatever it takes, and giving them the necessary equipment to fight the problem — guns, jeeps, helicopters, manpower, etc.
      2. I also think that that popular Sheriff in Arizona should be put in charge of housing illegals until they can be returned to Mexico so it doesn’t cost US taxpayers so much.
      3. I’m in favor of changing the law that gives US citizenship to anyone born in the US.
      4. I’d like to see the 11 million illegals who protest the US government start protesting the Mexican government that is too corrupt to provide for the Mexican people.
      5. I think there should be a guest worker program.
      6. I think that if you want to live in another country you should learn the language. Por ejemplo, if I moved to Spain, I would try to learn Spanish. In the US, that language is English.
      7. If you come here legally, I will enjoy your parades, music, food, and other beautiful aspects of the culture you bring. I will support your right to free speech. But don’t come here illegally, wave the Mexican flag at me and tell me we need you and the US southern states belong to you by the sheer numbers of you. Don’t tell me you are re-populating the US for us because we’re not having enough children. If you want to break our laws and then demonstrate against the US because you did, you can take your Mexican pride back to Mexico – on foot, through the desert, the way you came.
      8. For those who are here legally and love this country (perhaps as well or better than your own), I say bienvenidos.

    29. yoyo muffintop on October 13th, 2006 3:50 pm

      Here’s the skinny on Sheriff Joe and his arresting illegals in phoenix (maricopa county)
      JOE ARPAIO: This law we’ve been enforcing in the last four months. I’ll tell you one thing: It’s stopping the illegals from coming through Maricopa County. They know they’re going to jail and not the free ride back in an air-conditioned bus back to Mexico…So it’s an economic problem. If you start putting them in jail, then they won’t come over because they can’t make any money in jail to send back to their families…You can put all the walls up, all the National Guard. They’re still going to come in, if there is no penalty for coming in, except for a free ride back to Mexico.

      He’s got about 500 in tent city right now, and can hold another 3000. Let sheriff joe take over.

    30. Jon on October 14th, 2006 4:48 pm

      paralegal: Your comment about a 12′ fence with razor wire brings to mind something about prisons and Germany, etc.

      Why not make Mexico our 51st state?

    31. Ramlady on October 15th, 2006 7:37 am

      #30; Just a subtle difference: those fences were there to keep people IN, not out. On your second point: I don’t think Mexico WANTS to become our 51st state. Besides, Puerto Rico has been waiting how long??

    32. Jon on October 15th, 2006 4:54 pm

      Good point Ramlady…”to keep people IN, not out.”

    33. Brenda T. on October 16th, 2006 8:00 am


      As for a fence to keep people in, who would want to leave America? Come on! Has that EVER been a problem? (Not.) I am 100% for a boarder, even if it needs fixing all the time, and here’s why… I only wish people like Barbara Horse-faced Streisand and other Hollywood liberals would have moved to England or France as they promised to do if Bush was elected, but no such luck for us!

      One of the 2 officers in my family that lost his life in the line of duty was a boarder patrol officer in Texas back in the 50′s & 60′s (killed late 60′s when I was a youngster). He was left alone on duty at the tower while his partner went to the bathroom. When his partner came back, he found my uncle dead. Shot with his own service revolver that was MISSING and never recovered to this day. My family had hoped the illegals who obviously killed him would be caught, but no such luck. All but 2 of my dad’s 6 siblings have passed away, so no one is going after this anymore.

      Wonder how many of those illegal murder’s “upstanding” family and friends made it in ahead or behind them?

      Anyone care to guess?


      P.S. For anyone interested, the other uncle was killed trying to break up a fight in a bar. Was stabbed in the back.

    34. Ramlady on October 16th, 2006 8:56 am

      Brenda T.; apparently you misunderstood my comment #31 to Jon’s comment #30. He stated that having a 12′ razor wire fence along our border with Mexico was reminiscent of the same type fence East Germany had between them and West Germany or a prison fence. My comment that there was one “subtle” (sarcastic) difference was pointing out that thoses fences around prisons and fences that countries like East Germany had were to keep their people inside from getting out….not to keep people on the outside from getting in, which is what we (at least most of us Americans) would like to try to do along our borders. America does not need a fence to keep people in. You are free to leave anytime you wish, but anyone should NOT be allowed to come into our country illegally just because they want to. Please re-read. This was the message I was trying to convey. If you have read any of my previous posts, you might notice that many,if not most, of my thoughts on most topics are very similar, sometimes identical, to yours. Go back and read my posts concerning gun-control, politics, illegal immigration, etc.


      SM: You are correct Ramlady … it all depends on which way the direction of the razorwire points at the top of the fence, in or out.

      Keeping people out in a much different story that holding people within. Seems that China is creating a border fence along the North Korean border that is going unoticed. Wonder why they are doing such a thing? To keep North Korean refugees from flocking across the border? And also to create check points for shipments into NK.


    35. Ramlady on October 16th, 2006 9:02 am

      Also Brenda; I would rather listen to a squeaky door hinge for 24 hours a day than hear Barbra Streisand chortle. She is so typical of the limousine liberals in Hollywood. In her case, “Shut up and sing” is not applicable.” Just “Shut up” would be more appropriate.

    36. Ramlady on October 16th, 2006 9:20 am

      Exactly Red; China does not want to have millions of North Koreans flocking across their border seeking refuge from that wacko Kim Jung Il. Why is it that the U.S. is the only nation in the world who is expected to look the other way when it comes to enforcing our own borders? What other developed country has a border as porous as ours? IMO, a fence would be a good start, but without a lot more Border Patrol agents and possibly the military present to make sure no one tunnels under, climbs across, or blows up a section of the fence to get through, the fence alone will not be enough to keep illegals out.

    37. Brenda T. on October 16th, 2006 10:37 am


      Oh Dear! I did NOT read your post very well and am sorry. That’s what I get for trying to get caught up on my Monkeys news while trying to read through my ton of emails at work!

      Scared Monkeys are MUCH harder to resist than work.


    38. Ramlady on October 16th, 2006 11:10 am

      LOL! No problem. Thanks Brenda.

    39. Brenda T. on October 16th, 2006 11:18 am

      See? I can’t even spell my name correctly. Guess I’ll have to stop thinking about work while reading/answering Monkeys….


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