Aruba: Prime Minister Nelson Oduber “We live from tourism” … Then act like it
Aruban Prime Minister Nelson Oduber continues to live in a world of denial. Is it the police thats under pressure, or MEP? By the way Oduber, 9–11 is not the reason why your tourism hit the skids. Stop fooling yourself and stop lying to your people. Your horrendous tourism decline is pinpointed to one single event, the purposefully botched investigation of Natalee Holloway to protect your own. If you care so much about your precious tourism, then bring justice in this case. Without it your tourism will suffer for decades to come.
“We live from tourism. Since the terrorist attacks in the United States, all sorts of international measures were announced and we have to comply with those. We would like to interpret these well, so that the tourism do not experience unfavourable effects of these.”
If you want cooperation, then get the Dutch police into Aruba ASAP and give them full and complete rein on the Natalee Holloway investigation. They best have the ability to re-interview, re-question and look at this case from day one to the present. You have all the information that is needed, now all you have to do is act on it in a manner that isn’t cronyism.
Amigoe: September 21, 2006 “Aruba police under pressure” (full article below)
THE HAGUE/ARUBA – “When it comes to combating criminality, like drug dealing, our police officers are pressured”, explained Prime Minister Nelson Oduber (MEP) the protocol for the cooperation with the Dutch police today.
That’s the reason why Aruba wants support from the Netherlands to see how to cope with this and how to resist the tempting corruption.
“The Netherlands is also faced with these problems on a daily basis and has therefore a lot of experience in this field. We want to learn from that experience.”
Oduber also indicated that Aruba is striving for this same kind of cooperation in other areas, like border control. Aruba has already contacted the Royal Military Police about this. “We live from tourism. Since the terrorist attacks in the United States, all sorts of international measures were announced and we have to comply with those. We would like to interpret these well, so that the tourism do not experience unfavourable effects of these.”
Posted September 21, 2006 by Scared Monkeys
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The Netherlands is also faced with these problems on a daily basis and has therefore a lot of experience in this field. We want to learn from that experience.”
Oh God Lord
Down with Aruba… until they have the
decency AND THE BALLS to go extract
the JUSTICE that Natalee so OBVIOUSLY
DESERVES from those murdering raping
blood thirsty van der rapes and kal-slimes.
Until that moment…
keep blowing em straight in to the
depths of hell each and every waking
moment of their miserable stinking
decaying rotting little insignificant
AND OH YES, BEFORE I FORGET.
It’s about time you MAKE A FRIGGIN
TOUCHDOWN THIS WEEK JON GRUDEN
… Mr. POUND THAT ROCK. -okay fine-
Justice 4 Natalee
Perhaps you live from tourism, but do you abide by any rules of decency?
Do you think the world is fooled by your SHAM of an investigation?
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE
Your tourism depends on it. And it is the SMART and RIGHT thing to do.
EYES ON ARUBA
BOYCOTT UNTIL WE SEE JUSTICE
“Since the terrorist attacks in the United States, all sorts of international measures were announced and we have to comply with those. We would like to interpret these well, so that the tourism do not experience unfavourable effects of these.”
What the hell have they been doing since 2001?? How long does it take to implement and interpret safety/security measures? Their leadership and polis should be under pressure to do their job. ‘Tempting corruption’….it looks to me as if they were prime examples of complicity.
Is this the real reason the Dutch are going to Aruba? To assist them with plugging the holes, those would be huge and gaping holes at that, in their law enforcement?
Maybe this is as much a part of it as the investigation into Natalee’s disappearance. I believe the F-16′s already had a training mission scheduled for Curacao when Natalee vanished and yet the Dutch tried to fool us by pretending they were all sent just to look for Natalee. Why do I get the same bad feeling about these Dutch investigators? Like maybe they will work Natalee in if they have time, etc.
We can hold out forever but can you, Aruba? The games and tricks became stale a year ago.
Link to video about Dutch investigators
SM: Interviewed Beth a day ago about this, was making sure that it was a go …
Beth to Holland for TV interview.
I think these retards like dumpig and odeber just like to hear themselves talk. Who may I ask really listens? I think that deepak is gonna be the scapegoat. They will pin this on him and wisk him away so noone has a chance to talk to him…and there wont be nothing that he can do about it.
this hog load of swamp gas
isn’t worth a comment. He’s
an ‘anklebiter absolute.’
…but it is good to know who is writing
and saying what.
LETTER TO THE EDITOR
Some Holloway hoaxsters unravelled
Friday, August 11, 2006
Thank you for your recent coverage of the two recent court decisions, one awarding damages to Mr Paulus van der Sloot for unwarranted detention, and another dismissing a Holloway-family suit initiated in New York State against Paulus and Joran van der Sloot, which sought monetary damages for the vanishing of the missing Natalee Holloway.
The internet and entertainment news media fueled a frenzy of sensationalism which spawned many anti-Dutch, anti-Aruba, anti-van der Sloot websites and eventually culminated in some US states’ governments declaring a boycott against travel to the sovereign country of Aruba.
One website, which counts among its contributors two individuals who have written hundreds and hundreds of defamatory anti-Aruba and anti-Dutch articles on its site and on various anti-Dutch, anti-Aruba hate sites, recently offered up its contributors’ posting records for review and analysis.
This review proved conclusively that a small cadre of Internet posters, sending messages from a select number of unique and readily identifiable Internet Protocol addresses, used a plethora of log-in names from intercheangable locations to flood that website with defamatory misinformation.
There is no reason to believe that this is unique to this one website; individual posters on other Holloway-related sites have posted as many as 8,000 messages since the last weeks of March, 2006, and writing styles and content, easily recognizable, suggest that there is a contingent of posters who seemingly spend their days, almost full-time, filling the Internet with messages designed to keep the interest alive and the traffic to various sites up.
What has been done to analyze the postings to this one website should be done by them all: follow the boiler room-type posters and you’ll follow the money, and likely solve the mystery of the without-a-trace vanishing in the process.
I’ll bite anyway and make a comment. How about
they solve who murdered and raped Natalee Holloway
first??? THEY REALLY NEED TO FOCUS THE TIME AND
RESOURCES AT THIS POINT – IMO …
then they track down your
NAME POSTERS THAT YOU HAVE
NO PROOF ON WHATSOEVER…
…and you are just spinning story like the punk ass,
LIQUID SKIDDY that WE ALL KNOW YOU TO BE—
Come to America b1tch…. I’ll put together
a welcoming dinner for you, u sorry sack.
Bring a carrot,
we’ll be havin WABBIT!
Mr Prime Minister Please !, No longer allow anyone to protect
either Paulis or Joran Van Der Sloot and possably Anita VDS either as she may also have obstruted Justice .
and deal with the Kalpo Bros who are also involved in this Obstruction of Justice in this case .
Act and act now with every bit of your power befor it erodes to nothing and your Island is irepairabily ruined .
These few people cannot possably have this much power in Aruba or the Netherlands to warrent this kind of a coverup .
I promise you that the pressure that we can and have exerted will NOT STOP untill the actors in this Drama are publicaly brought to Justice and their lives are terminated as they know them as it has been for Natalees family .
Thank you Mr Prime Minister for your consideration and attention to the resoluution of this situation .
Carpe,that was everywher,but you are right.They hid the drugs and assaults before NAH under Netherland Antilles.They have 15% arable land,limited freash water and oil polluted beaches.Yes I guess they have a problem.The rats jumped the ship to Amsterdam(to find young porn stars),Florida(which has a serial killer loose)and Atlanta.They don’t care,because they are not human.This would require humans emotions and feelings.I feel justice will come,soon.”nothing stays buried forever”Cat
Aruba, you need us more than we need you.
And yes, we can hold out forever.
We live for tourism? you mean lived?
It seems as if people such as myself have been nothing but Lasiandra’s in this speaking the prophecy and not being heard. I have stated over and over again what the very predictable outcome for the economy of Aruba is on this forum and yet all that we see is more stupidity. Aruba is dead island walking. Soon we will hear that the expected revenue from the new taxes is not there either. Advice, do not look for sympathy from anyone and if you want to know who to blame, look into the mirror!
Beth is going to be on Robert Jensen’s TV show in Holland next week.
My three letters Michelle sent me are on their way to the powers-that-be in Aruba.
SM: For some reason this interview did not auto post this AM, Talked to Beth yesterday …
Beth going to Holland for TV interview
Correction, Mr. Oduber: your country used to live on tourism. You’re now seeing the beginnings of what may prove to be a starvation diet.
And just remember: you asked for it!
We will continue to hold out and continue to spread the word.
Show us that you are made of the RIGHT STUFF!
Do not damage your reputation on behalf of Aruba.
Holland, be serious, be competent, and GET THE JOB DONE!
THE REAL DEAL
JUSTICE FOR NATALEE ANN HOLLOWAY
Beth and Dave’s beloved daughter
i sincerely hope the dutch start backtracking the posts on places like here, bfn, and refugees unleashed. very interesting to see how many of the posters are connected to friends and followers of the vds family including julia. if they do their job right, natalee will be home soon, her assailants will be in prison, and i’m sending monthly supplies of viagra to their cellmates, and then they can start tracking down and charging the cover up people. at least 3/4 of the a.l.e.’s time has been chasing rumors started by these people as “credible witness” information.
48 HOUR SNIPPETS from a man so pathetic
he basically accuses a dead girl of creating
her own destruction. WITH NO PROOF
Did I NH used drugs – I can not say.
Dumb-swine you and your waste of a
son aren’t QUALIFIED TO BE
GRABAGE MEN. You make me sick!!!!!!!!!
Although if you did get a job as an
Aruban Garbage man, in my opinion
that would be a move up for you!
“They were focused already from the first day, from the getÃ¢â‚¬”go, on these three boys. So, it’s hard for them to understand that when we investigate, we have to go systematically. We have to go back to basics. And we have to do it by the book,” says Dompig.
Yes, you wheeze bag… they were the only LAST HUMAN BEINGS
TO SEE HER ALIVE AND NONE OF THEM CAN GET THEIR STORIES
TO MESH. Joran has changed his story A DOZEN TIMES or so
up until this 3/2006 interview, which essentially was
slated to be an ARUBAN DRIVE-BY CHARACTER ASSASSINATION
OF NATALEE ANN HOLLOWAY.
…AND just like in everything else a DUMBPIG does,
HE IS A PATHETIC FAILURE. Obviously the FBI training
did not sink in with you.
Dompig says surveillance of the three boys began on the third day after Natalee was reported missing and included observation, telephone wire taps, and even monitoring of their e-mail.
“Bringing in the prime suspect is basically the last thing we do,” Dompig explains. “When we bring you in, we probably already know the story because we have observed. We have talked to all your friends. We have checked your phone line. We have done everything that is technically possible to know about your whereabouts.”
yup, up to and including sitting on your fat cushion
for 3 months postponing a investigative dig while announcing
to the world you full intend to go an and actually dig one day.
Joran’s father discussed the family’s ordeal with CBS’ The Early Show.
“We are telling the whole truth, nothing but the truth. And we spoke all this to Joran to tell the truth,” Paulus van der Sloot said.
Police say they could not listen in on the conversations between Paulus and his son, citing that they were “privileged conversations.”
Dompig says he believes Paulus van der Sloot does know more than he has been telling about the circumstances surrounding Holloway’s disappearance.
But in spite of those parental visits, 48 Hours has learned that the interrogations were intense and tough. Special agents from the FBI were brought in, along with investigators from Holland to conduction the interrogations.
Dompig says while Joran van der Sloot wasn’t subjected to questioning in the middle of the night, there were late sessions.
“So he was deprived of sleep but it wasn’t going on for days?” Roberts asked.
“No,” Dompig replied.
Dompig says it almost worked. “There were several moments where Joran almost broke. Several moments,” he says.
There’s your new effin PUBLIC SEAL to go
on the outside of the building.
“THERE’S YOUR SIGN” -Foxworthy
“IT ALMOST WORKED” – Gerold Dumb-pig
CBS 48 HOURS – from CBS.COM
We need to send Gerold a “RED HOT CHILI PEPERS” music CD.
Torture, anybody? Puh-leeze.
effin moron & sorry excuse for a man.
will be had despite
your efforts to help
destroy every iota of it.
How do u look anyone in they eyes anymore?
justice. Boycott Aruba, Jamaica, and cruises. We don’t want to be on here next year talking about another missing AMERICAN !!!
FREE DOG CHAPMAN ! WHAT ARUBA COULD NOT ACCOMPLISH, HE DID IN TWO DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. TOOK A SERIAL RAPIST OFF THE STREETS. LET’S SEE IF THE DUTCH CAN DO AS WELL !
Dave, NO CAN DO !!!!!!!!!!1
the day natalee disappeared, paulus instructed the boys about cells phones, phone conversations, computers, and surveillance. as well as “no body, no case”. 3 days after natalee disappeared. long after they had time to finish cleaning up after themselves, dompig initiates the surveillance and phone taps. that’s only 3 days – the closest to being on time doing anything during this “investigation”. if you think for one minute that paulus didn’t know about the cold case team coming over at least a week before anybody else knew it, i’ve got a bridge in brooklyn to sell you.
kelmal or whatever your name is, i don’t remember asking for your ametuerish input.
Anyone besides me have the feeling that a PATSY is about due on the scene? I have little trust in the dutch, but hope to be proved wrong.
westcoast, NOPE, They will never, ever arrest ANYONE !!!!!!!!!!! The cover-up is complete.
suer dave, LOL !!!!!!!!!! Luv Ya Kel !!!!!!!
Please consult with another negative poster
by the name of “Mary Ann Der Sloot”
who was literally bombarded with SM
Supporters She Had No Idea Existed !!
Check The Site Meter – That Says It All -
I too have little trust in the Dutchies. They’re here to either put some finality to the case and clear Aruba or at best they will find the raping-murdering VanDerSloots culpable but hands tied do to anything because of previous rulings by the court. The lack of urgency and reluctance to get involved early on speak volumes in my opinion. I hope I’m wrong but I fear they are just on board for higher level damage control.
nychic, How is my BUDDY doing ???? I have missed you. Yankees are looking GOOD !!! I think it will be the Tigers and the yankees in the 1st round.
We now know that Beth is going to the Netherlands. This suggests something good to me.
#34, please share your feeling. Do you suppose that Beth was invited or did she invite herself?
I see that we were almost missing you for good
(according to the warnings from Klaas !)
I’m not in NY at the moment – but
I Would Like Everyone To Know That Many People
I Have Spoken To This Week in Buenos Aires
Are Very Aware And Concerned About Natalee !
#22 i remember one of the dutch interrogators was said to have made the comment that they were about to break. the next day they got a court hearing and were released from jail 2 days before they had to have the hearing. i understand the dutch cops were very unhappy about that but couldn’t do anything about it. may that is about to change.
He wants to combat drug dealing, he might start with the ones Jacobs talks about at CnC that spike your drinks and the ones who live in bushes outside hotel windows.
how would you go about inviting yourself to an interview in a foreign country?
SM:Ã‚ I don’t know, but is it possible he contacted Beth? (klaasend)
lol, sm, that’s what i’m thinking, i can’t see beth calling and asking to be interviewed. i was asking in reference to #35, couldn’t see where that question came from.
#28 super dave: Lol, you got it.
Can’t we take a vote? SM when are you gonna get rid of this troll?
molly (in Houston)
a big yay to that.
indy dan, post 32, GREAT POST. I agree 100%. Holland is there for damage control. It is over to them too.
http://www.katablog.com/display_blog.cfm?bid=D6331737-E1FE-94F0-B699310FA003E5E5 sort of says it all. Aruba was in denial about what happened to Natalee Holloway and now they are spinning the truth about their tourism.
Ask any travel agent, Americans are traveling at record levels. I know we are! They (and we) are just not going to Aruba.
blog, ALL travel is way down here in Michigan. Nobody is going anywhere.
Happy autumn to everyone except nychic. It is happy spring to her. nychic, what is the weather like today. I would say SUNNY and 70.
how do you know that everyone else here is in the U.S.
or in the same time zone ?
It has been sunny and 70 here all week except today
it is cloudy -
btw- I was checking out a new internet link setup
in the hotel lobby and the attendant asked what
website I wanted to visit – of course I said SM and
3 people came up when they heard me and asked if
there was something new happening with the case !
nychic The time zone has NOTHING to do with spring. What did you tell the 3 people. Nothing NEW in the last year !!
Its great to hear about your contacts as you are traveling,
like a finger on the pulse of the sentiment other lands thanks!
9/11 Oduber?? Is that the best you can do??? I’d love to take a poll of aruba & see how many people believe that TOTAL BS. Did you think it up yourself or was this Arlene’s strategic skills?
Is Elson Oduber REALLY Nelson Oduber’s kid?
You know, he’s the dude that never saw a camera
that his bird finger didn’t like. -JN-
I did a google for Elson & your post#50 is the first in the list!~ lmao
We discussed the Dutch Investigators taking
over and about Beth’s upcoming interview -
The point is – that the word is out there
no matter where you are or who you speak to -
Everyone is still thinking about finding
out what happened to Natalee !
(btw – back in nyc – but just had to add this:
spoke to a guy who works for Capital One before
I left – I told him that Aruba Commercial has
got to go ! They could have used any other
destination ! On top of that – the woman does not
even pronounce Antigua correctly !)
nychic, WECOME back buddy !!!!!!!!!! You are right. I went to a baby shower yesterday and all we talked about was Natalee!!
I am finding it difficult to imagine you
attending a baby shower ??
(someday you might shock us all and admit
you are of the male species)
You should have told me – My nephews collect
nba/soccer/futbol jerseys and I bought several -
(they had them in baby sizes too)
the best find was: Manu Ginobili world team
nychic, That sounds cool. I will let you know next time I go to another one !! I guess you do like those SPUR’S !!!
Boycott ARUBA (one sad island )