More bad News For Aruba … Money Supply Decreases by Afl 4.1 M in July 2006



This can be the only reason why the Aruba government has invited the Dutch police to take over the Natalee Holloway investigation. Month after month tourism decreases and month after month the money supply and revenue does as well. The latest numbers from July 2006 show a decrease in money supply of Afl 4.1 million as well as across the board losses in tourism indicators.

In July 2006, money supply decreased by Afl. 4.1 million to Afl. 2,464.9 million. This decline was the result of an Afl. 3.7 million decrease in net domestic assets and an Afl. 0.4 million net outflow of funds to abroad. The latter caused net foreign assets to fall slightly to Afl. 648.4 million at the end of July 2006, which is Afl. 34.5 million or 5.6 percent higher than in the corresponding month a year earlier.

Other tourism numbers show a continued decline. All three sectors of “stay-over visitors”, “hotel occupancy”, “cruise ship passengers” and “number of cruise ships” all suffered significant losses.

In May 2006, the number of stay-over visitors and their nights spent on the island fell by 6.7 percent and 6.2 percent, respectively, compared to the corresponding month in 2005. Data available for the first five months of 2006 show that stay-over tourists and their nights spent on the island decreased by 10.6 percent and 7.8 percent, respectively. The data on tourist arrivals and nights spent on the island for June and July 2006 are not yet available.According to data from the Central Bureau of Statistics, the average occupancy rate of the hotels contracted by 9.4 percentage points to 76.6 percent in July 2006, compared to the corresponding month a year earlier.

Data published by the Cruise Tourism Authority show that the number of cruise passengers dropped by 16.7 percent in July 2006, compared to the corresponding month of 2005, while the number of ship calls recorded a 43 percent decline.

Read the full Summary of the Monthly Bulletin of the Centrale Bank van Aruba from July 2006.

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    110 Responses to “More bad News For Aruba … Money Supply Decreases by Afl 4.1 M in July 2006”

    1. defiant_wench on September 15th, 2006 7:03 pm

      How broke does the island have to get before the truth comes out?

    2. Carpe Noctem on September 15th, 2006 7:03 pm

      ARUBA, you lie down with 2 DOGS…

      You get up with fleas.

      Justice 4 Natalee

      The journey back
      starts with
      a step in the
      right direction,
      even a baby one
      will do!


    3. Lady on September 15th, 2006 7:03 pm

      It seems the hotels are losing money at a constant rate. From what I’ve read, a hotel generally needs an 85% occupancy rate to maintain profits. In July of 2005, the Aruban hotels averaged 86% occupancy. Life was good. One year later, the occupancy is 76.6%. Now mind you, this didn’t drop just for the month of July 2006, but is the level to which the occupancy dropped over the course of the year. These Aruban hotels have not been profitable for the entire past year. How long can a business continue to operate at a loss? How long before Aruba wakes up and deals with the real issue of Natalee Holloway’s disappearance?

    4. Maggie on September 15th, 2006 7:07 pm

      Aren’t you proud now Joran, Deepak, Satish, Koen, Guido, Freddy, Straten, Jacobs, Paulus, Shippers, Cohen, Renfro, Lacle, Janssen, Trapenberg, Croes, Obuder?!

      Beth Twitty did NOT cause the fall in tourism. Your total disrespect and disgusting treatment of a visiting tourist Natalee Holloway , who was victimized on May 30, 2005 by locals on the island. Her and her family have been repeatedly victimized for 16 months over and over on the hellish roller coaster you put them on. Beth didn’t have to tell anyone who’s been watching this everyday for over a year, we seen firsthand the nightmare the authorities have put Natalee and her family through. Natalee left for Aruba as an honor student with a full scholarship and all kinds of awards a very responsible and sweet girl and they tried to turn her into a druggie, drunk, slut, and bozo. It didn’t work. I can’t imagine what they would do to a girl who made c’s and became a victim in Aruba. Tourists don’t want to go because they can put themselves in Beth, Natalee and Dave’s place.

      People need to take the street and instead of protesting a mother looking for her child this time, protest the bs from the people who have been handling this case and the ones who have lied a thousand times over and over.

    5. Maggie on September 15th, 2006 7:22 pm

      For those who didn’t see it..This is Mickey John’s police statement..

    6. dennisintn on September 15th, 2006 7:30 pm

      maggie, very nicely said, ma’am.


    7. Mortella on September 15th, 2006 7:40 pm

      The number of ship calls has reported a 43 percent decline. We can make that number apply to the other aspects of tourism as well if we keep up our efforts.

      Yes, Maggie, one of the saddest and sickest things Aruba tried to do, and yes it is the entire island through their spokesperson one Chief of Police Gerald “Mercedes” Dompig, was trash Natalee as a person. This was just so unnecessary and does nothing to exonerate Aruba for their failure to apply even the most rudimentary of professional standards to the investigation into her appearance.

      Dompig seemed personally offended that Beth Twitty was not adequately impressed with him as a person. She failed to find Gerald attractive? That was his complaint?

      The ALE has blamed the mother of the missing person for their failure to conduct anything close to an investigation. How’s that for am immature and unprofessional attitude? Can you imagine an Official of any police unit in this country or say Scotland Yard or any other country doing such vain and childish things? They would be laughable if not for the tragedy of Natalee still being unaccounted for. As police officers and members of law enforcement, they are jokes. But we are not laughing, instead we are boycotting and encouraging others to do so as well. And we will continue and only step up our efforts.

      They started off failing to take forensics from those last seen with Natalee, pretended to keep tabs on them for a few days with such outdated modes as alleged wiretapping when we are talking about the possible commission of a dangerous and violent crime and gave the suspects ten days to cover their trail. Meanwhile, they are insulting the parents, step-parents and the victim at each and every turn. What’s wrong with this picture from people who want our money? How stupid do they think we are?

      Interpol is already on to the lies Aruba tells in regard to crime through the case of a man strangled to death that Aruba tried to pass off as natural causes of a heart attack earlier this year. Fortunately, the man’s family got an autopsy outside of One Crappy Island where all the murders are counted as suicide or natural causes. Natalee is not the only tragedy these crooks have covered up trying to lie and deceive the tourists who come there thinking it is a low-crime area. Also check out their HIV rate as it is as high as their real, true murder rate.

      No decent human being sets about trashing the victim of a crime, Aruba. That doesn’t relieve you one bit of the responsibility of giving us an accounting for our citizen that you made disappear. Allowing gangs of young punks to run amok preying on tourists like this is just bad for business. Joran claims it happened twenty times before with just him. You shouldn’t have done it in the first place but to cover up for them as you have is just unforgivable. We will NEVER forget and we carry grudges. We won’t stop as long as there is ANY tourist business on your One Crappy Island. U.S. companies need to cut their losses and pull out now! It’s only going to get worse. We will not give up nor back down. Not ever.

      And never forget that Beth was forced to apologize and they took to the streets to demonstrate against her just for wanting her child back from these people. They also took to the streets over turtle eggs and the building of more high rises but they are just fine with Natalee disappeared and no investigation and the guilty not brought to justice.

      I would so like to see at least one major hotel and resort firm pull out of there pronto. I truly think that would get their attention at long last for I do believe they are still in denial despite what the numbers say. Aruba needs a really good wake up call on this.

    8. KELMAL on September 15th, 2006 7:52 pm

      mortella, I still don’t know why Beth had to Apologize. I know I sure wouldn’t have.

    9. Maggie on September 15th, 2006 8:01 pm

      Wonder why Abraham Jones statement so far is the only one with this on it..

      I was not threatened, maltreated or anyhow promised something or given to me to give this statement.

      Mickey Johns don’t have anything like that on it.

    10. KELMAL on September 15th, 2006 8:06 pm

      Maggie, GREAT point. Maybe Mickey Johns was paid to say what he did ?????

    11. Frank on September 15th, 2006 8:12 pm

      This is not about punks, but adults, the only reason the truth is still hidden is because the consequences are a fatal blow.

      The police force of Aruba is complicit in the death and coverup of Natalee Holloway.

      That fact gives, even demands that the U.S. State Department ban travel to that country. No way if this was just Joran and the Kalpoes does it go on this long.

    12. KELMAL on September 15th, 2006 8:33 pm

      Frank, WELCOME !!!!! Where have you been ?????? That’s what I have been saying for a LONG LONG time. It goes MUCH deeper than the 3 boys !!!

    13. Carpe Noctem on September 15th, 2006 8:53 pm

      …but the three boys still raped and murder Natalee.

      Don’t lose sight of that. JUSTICE 4 NATALEE

      It probably does go much deeper. Joran, Deepak, and Satish
      and worth the three slugs it would take to send
      them to go see the sharks.

    14. Carpe Noctem on September 15th, 2006 8:53 pm

      I mean “are not” worth the slugs…

    15. KELMAL on September 15th, 2006 9:14 pm

      carpe, you don’t know that for sure. Listen to minny dad. His theory is VERY possible.

    16. JusticeforNatalee on September 15th, 2006 9:18 pm

      You are right, Mortella. ALE IS a joke–but we aren’t laughing, we are:


      until there is


    17. Maggie on September 15th, 2006 9:21 pm

      How nice that Joran’s attorney filed a motion last year to keep the FBI from having any info on the case, yet the AHATA and Joran and Paulus can have FBI files to read.

      CALLER: I’ve got a question. I’d like to know if the FBI is going to get to interrogate the Van Der Sloots and the Kalpoe brothers?

      KING: T.J., do you know?

      WARD: No. They cannot. The letter that was handed down by the administrative justice and the Holland government says that the FBI can monitor and oversee the investigation and give the authority to direct what needs to be done. But they cannot get directly involved in the case.

      KING: Because of — that’s Aruban case?

      WARD: Yes. The Aruban authorities have the run on this case. And the FBI here is to oversee and monitor what evidence is taken. And give them direction on what to do in this case. That’s the only authority that they have. They will have no authority to sit down and interview. Now I’m sure they’ll be able to monitor if there are future interrogations, they will be able to do that. But it’s my understanding through the letter of the law that was brought down, and the joint efforts between the United States and the Holland and the Aruban government, the FBI will just monitor what transpires.

      KING: And Joran Van Der Sloot’s attorney, we understand, has filed motions relating to their involvement. He doesn’t want them to have access to anything.

      WARD: Well that’s kind of interesting, also. Because if these defendants or suspects, we’ll still call them, don’t have anything to hide, then I don’t know why he’s going through the motion and trying to keep the FBI out from bringing their expertise in here to assist the Aruban government.

      KING: Because the prime minister wants them more involved.

      WARD: That’s exactly right.

    18. Maggie on September 15th, 2006 9:25 pm

      This story is that Nadira was fired for fraud and they tried to blame her firing on Natalee Holloway’s case.

      ORANJESTAD—- “The firing of Nadira Ramirez, the mother of Statish [sic] and Deepak Kalpoe, has nothing to do with the Holloway-case or the fact that she is the mother of the brothers Kalpoe”, so explains Ike Cohen, director of the Manchebo Hotel.

      Hereby Cohen reacts to the expressions of Ramirez in a morning newspaper that says that her firing relates to the Holloway-case. Cohen: “We have given Mrs. Ramirez the reasons for the firings, both verbally and in writing It is not up to us make the reasons for this firing public, since we are of the opinion that it would violate the privacy of Mrs. Ramirez.

      The alleged reason that Ramirez was fired would have been fraud. After being off from her work on Monday and Tuesday because of the freeing of her sons Ramirez appeared Wednesday again at her work in the Steakhouse of Manchebo. She was called to the Management, her thinking was that she would have been congratulated. This was not the case. In presence of her highest boss Cohen was she told that she was fired. The alleged fraud would have been committed when she cancelled orders that the clients ate or drank, thus Ramirez would have allegedly put the money in her own pocket. Ramirez denies to have committed fraud and is thinking of fighting her ficanceledring. Ramirez worked nine years in the Steakhouse at Manchebo.

    19. Carpe Noctem on September 15th, 2006 9:37 pm

      Hey today I actually recorded a human life form

      on the Aruba Bucuti Beach Cams!


      Keep Boycotting
      Aruba hardcore!

    20. IndyDan on September 15th, 2006 9:51 pm

      #4 Maggie – couldn’t be put better.

    21. realtruth on September 15th, 2006 11:36 pm

      agree with everyone

    22. Waterboy (previously, Jerry) on September 15th, 2006 11:52 pm

      Things are slow right now, I guess everyone is busy. I had a chance to go back and review some of Dana’s P. pod cast last night, and I went back and listened to Tim Miller talking about his fund raiser. I don’t know how it turned out, but he did say that he was going back to Aruba at some point, and he seemed confident that he could find Natalee. He also seemed quite sure that Natalee is no longer living. It’s interesting, because he said that he felt like it was not an intentional killing. (I don’t believe this.)

      Tim seems to feel that the most important piece of evidence is the missing, large, mess wire (looks like chicken wire) trap, and the large knife and rope. He seems to feel that Natalee was dropped in water between 5 and 10 miles out. He seems to know the general direction. He said that the evidence is in about 800-foot water, and he seems to feel he can retrieve enough evidence to prove identity. He also said (maybe I misunderstood) that he needs about 150,000 dollars to mount another search i.e. hotel rooms, feeding volunteers, renting equipment, etc.

      I just went down the S.M. site and when I got to the interview with Dave Holloway, I went from there to the archived interview of Tim. The one with Dave is good too. Makes my eyes tear up. Tim talks about his daughter. It is very, very touching. If someone is interested and can’t find the interview with Tim, I’ll look it up and get a link.

      If Tim is right, then evidently Natalee was taken to deep water in the early morning of May 30, 2005. That would mean that the rocks video, the plastic bag, (two pieces of evidence that I feel are the most important) is really distractions. I’m going to keep an open mind about it all, and try to piece the scenarios of all truth-seeking Monkeys into Tim’s theory. If Natalee was taken out in the morning of May 30, then how did the blouse top get where it was? Some of the other theories have to be right on track. There has to be a long twisted story, other than just murder, and taking Natalee’s tiny body out to sea.

      Well, some of my ramblings for tonight. I’ll try to make a little more sense, perhaps Saturday morning, when I’m rested.

      Good night, and may God bless you all. Jerry

    23. realtruth on September 16th, 2006 12:07 am

      well, this weekend i’ll buy a few more copies of dave’s book on “natalee holloway – corruption in paradise (aruba)” and mail to a paris, france and bucharest, romania hotel to spread the news of the tragic story to a few more europeans; and hopefully put doubt in their minds not to travel to aruba or the netherlands.

    24. realtruth on September 16th, 2006 12:25 am

      that was a good story gerry, thank you. i also seriously doubt her death was an accident too. the dutch and aruban are most probably blackmailing her family for her remains if they agree it was an accident – to save their islands tourism, the dutch and aruban gov’ts are completely corrupt. what they did to natalee, her family and her friends – it’s not even described in the bible; it’s below god’s definition of evil. may the guilty dutch and arubans suffer for eternity.

    25. oxbow on September 16th, 2006 8:47 am

      It seems to me that you people here (incl SM) seem to have a lot of fun about the decreasing tourism and the effects it has on Aruba’s population. Just because a few in charge didn’t do a good job considering the investigation on NH disappearance doesn’t mean that the other 102.000 inhabitants may be punished for that. I cannot believe this the attitude of the inhabitants of the US, but If so……..

    26. serenity on September 16th, 2006 10:12 am

      To oxbow,if you want to help Aruba, then get its 102,000 inhabitants to be proactive and do something about it.Get to the streets and demand answers to Natalies disappearance. This is the only way to make this happen. Do you have a child? Would you be silent? Do something. Your people can have a tremendous impact.

    27. KELMAL on September 16th, 2006 10:20 am

      Waterboy, That’s what I have been saying for OVER a year now. They took her body way out into the ocean NEVER to be found again. The rock video and plastic bag was just to throw people off. Who in their right mind would kill someone then put her body next to a road when you can throw her into the ocean ??? Some HARD heads on here wouldn’t listen !! So they wasted days and days looking at useless pictures. I guess some people have NOTHING else to do. Thanks Jerry

    28. dave on September 16th, 2006 10:57 am

      Trolls – talk about having NOTHING else to do.

      Do not feed the Troll

    29. Carpe Noctem on September 16th, 2006 11:06 am

      Oxbow and Kelmal get a grip and a clue, please.

      Aruba announced on their very own this week…

      100,000 less vistors this past year. Their operating
      deep in red territory. The island is going down in
      flames & kelmal will get ‘SHIMS’ wish… it’s going
      all the way to the zero. Looks like drug money
      is gonna have to do the trick from now on!
      Justice 4 Nat.

      Hey to murdering rapist and his murdering pedo
      of a father Paulus (imo), to the 2 murdering and raping kalpoes… here is what you did!

      You crushed hearts!

      Take a good look.

      You murder the family and millions of
      Americans over and over each day that you don’t
      help put an end to this case.

      We have memories as long as elephants.
      Speaking for myself, I have the taste for you blood
      for what you have done to Natalee Ann Holloway.
      America’s Daughter.


      Bless the HTs

    30. JusticeforNatalee on September 16th, 2006 11:13 am


      Do not blame Americans for the boycott. We are just standing up for Natalee. So are other supporters around the world who value justice and are disgusted that a beloved daughter would be treated so callously.

      Blame the suspects (who at the very least know what happened), the corrupt members of ALE, and certain corrupt government officials. THEY are the ones hurting the average Aurban and THEY could end the boycott by telling the truth.

    31. JusticeforNatalee on September 16th, 2006 11:14 am

      #30 correction Aurban=Aruban

    32. vicki on September 16th, 2006 11:21 am

      OH carpe, that picture of Beth just breaks my heart… Its so terrible what they have done to Natalee and her family… There will be no peace aruba until you do something.

    33. on September 16th, 2006 11:24 am

      Pretty bad numbers. to oxbow that wonders why we are pleased – we are pleased not that 102,000 people are hurting but rather that their representatives (police, courts, PM, etc.) may eventually get the message that you don’t murder an American and then shrug your shoulders and pretend nothing happened and if it did, it’s the fault of the victim and her family.

      We are not pleased that you have to go through the misery index; we are pleased that eventually pressure may bring about answers to poor Natalee’s suffering family.

    34. KELMAL on September 16th, 2006 11:29 am

      katablog, No matter what we do to Aruba they will NEVER tell us what happened to Natalee. This crime goes way to DEEP. To many people would get hurt. The island will sink first. Aruba is done with the case. It’s OVER !!

    35. Carpe Noctem on September 16th, 2006 11:39 am

      It hits me in the breadbasket too vicki… I look at that one and a couple of others to remind me when I need it,
      why I continue do what I am doing… and will continue
      on until they “the family” puts out the
      word it is time to stop.

      Aruba and Van der Sloots and Kalpoes, you are going down – trust me on this one. You F-ed with the wrong person
      this time. That person – Natalee Holloway.


      Hey Vicki,

      I looked in to your BFN TIME WARP request. While
      I did not find EVERYTHING I was on the lookout
      for… it did spark up some new and interesting
      trails, and it is work in progress right now.
      I will have more on it soon.
      I am happy you sent me over
      there and the things I have
      discovered and re-discovered.

      If you have any specific
      stuff from that thread you want re-posted
      let me know, I’ll transfer it over if SM
      and the author think it is cool to do so.
      No problem!

    36. Carpe Noctem on September 16th, 2006 11:42 am

      How deep could it go that a middle aged woman
      from Brighton, MI would know about? Just curious?

    37. oxbow on September 16th, 2006 11:43 am

      @30 JFN
      I do not blame the American for the boycott. All I want to say is that there are about 102.000 people who are now suffering from a decrease in tourism and It seems to me hat some people around here enjoy that fact that those 102.000 innocent people are punished too. I know NH was innocent too.
      Again, the fact that tourism decreases is an Aruban case. The fact that some visitors of this blog are enjoying that makes me puke.

    38. Carpe Noctem on September 16th, 2006 11:48 am

      The fact that Aruba made Beth Twitty apologizeto two raping killers of her daughter makes me wanna puke.

      Life’s a twitch, ain’t it?


    39. Doc Rock on September 16th, 2006 12:15 pm

      I, for one, am enjoying watching all Arubans suffer from the boycott—screw them all!

    40. 10061906 on September 16th, 2006 12:29 pm

      To Oxbow: To me the conditions in Aruba are really a double edge sword. I certainly do not want the innocent Arubans hurt by a lack of tourist and income. But on the other hand those that have or planned to travel to Aruba have realized that Aruba isn’t a tourist trap; it is a rapist trap; and they do not feel safe on Aruba. The purpose of asking for a boycott was not to hurt the Arubans but to force those responsible for whatever happened to Natalee to be brought to justice. All the Twittys and Holloways ever wanted was the return of their daughter.They did not need the authorities to blame Natalee for disappearing and Natalee’s family for hindering the investigation. If anything a lot more evidence would have been swept under the carpet if Beth had not persued her hunt for Natalee. There are people on Aruba that know what happened and because of a lawless island, the perpetrators are free to roam. So if a lack of tourism is needed to bring justice; then so be it. If the result is reduced income and lost jobs; so be it.
      Someone could become financially comfortable by telling what happened and collect the reward. Just think that person would be better off and the net result may bring tourism back to Aruba. Until that happens Aruba deserves to reap what it has sown.

    41. Mortella on September 16th, 2006 12:57 pm

      It makes me puke to hear Chief of Police Gerald “Mercedes” Dompig to on international TV and smirk and imply Natalee was a drunk and routinely used drugs and was “seen” with “drugs” and all the rest of the lies that have been told about her by many on Aruba. What is a breazah slut, anyway? Never heard that word before until so many from Aruba and the Netherlands were calling Natalee that. Saying she deserved whatever happened to her and on and on.

      Same thing. But we Americans did not make her disappear. And we do not owe Aruba anything. Not so much as one tourist. We are free to chose where we vacation.

      Arubans took to the streets to protest against Beth Twitty for daring to ask for her child back and for turtle eggs but they don’t care enough to do so for Natalee or to demand justice from their corrupt officials. Their choice. And they appear to have made it.

      America is not responsible for the Aruban economy at all. American companies have invested millions and millions in developing the resort area of Aruba. We have done plenty for Aruba but we are not obligated in any way to ever return there for any reason. Far more than a few Arubans have said Natalee got what she deserved. Well, sorry, maybe that is what is going to happen to Aruba, too. Maybe Aruba is just getting what it deserves just like Natalee, huh? It works both ways and the only difference is that one party is truly innocent. That would not be Aruba for Natalee and her family are the ones offended and wronged in this. Not Aruba! And until Aruba understands that, things are going to be going down hill. What on earth do you expect? That we should feel sorry for Aruba in all this? Get real! Natalee didn’t make Aruba disappear! It’s still there calling her names as a matter of fact.

    42. KELMAL on September 16th, 2006 1:17 pm

      carpe, I still want to know why she apologized. I would never have done it. Why did she ?????????????

    43. Carpe Noctem on September 16th, 2006 1:36 pm



    44. mayan_moons on September 16th, 2006 1:36 pm

      I have a lonnnnnng memory too & not an ounce of pity for that evil island & ALL who live live there. If they are starting to suffer…….well that makes my year mo fo’s!~
      Aruba GO TO HELL BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    45. KELMAL on September 16th, 2006 1:46 pm

      mayan, I agree!!! Revenge for Natalee !!!!!!!!!!

    46. Carpe Noctem on September 16th, 2006 2:05 pm

      No Kelmal, Justice.

      Only the murdering serial raping Van der sluts of Aruba
      believe in revenge.

      There is a big difference!

      Hanging an entire nation for your own acts…

      Not possessing the cajones to take your licks for
      your own loss of control, binge drinking, underage
      and psychopathic
      murderous rage…

      all because a girl
      with some substance
      finally told him to
      go jump in a creek…

      and he murdered her for it.

      Only a backstabbing
      could come up
      with that as a proper solution.

      Justice 4 Natalee

    47. Allan K on September 16th, 2006 2:07 pm

      Dear Oxbow

      You are lost. You talk without a clue of what has transpired. Plus you also talk with the slanted character of Aruban, which has also been part of the problem. Maybe one day I can be as righteous as you.

    48. mayan_moons on September 16th, 2006 2:08 pm

      I feel in my bones that Van der SCUM wanted to put Natalee in the ocean but Tim Miller saw this family suffering & saw Aruba doing NOTHING, he announced he was coming to search the waters. The scum couldn’t risk Natalee’s remains emerging from the waters for ALL AMERICA to see.
      I’m confident that the murderer’s couldn’t take chances of putting Natalee in a place that they could not control searchers. There was only one place they could hide her & keep them from searching and that is the Van Der Sloot property. Its sooo damn obvious people. Look at the people…..hell WHOLE FAMILYS whose sons were connected to Natalee sold their houses & ran to Holland. Don’t you know the Scums would’ve run away to but they can’t, coz if they did that property would be bulldozed & backhoed and Natalee’s little remains would be found. Cementing as it were their GUILT, not just Jipshits guilt but Pauls & Anita’s too for theres NO WAY i believe that Anita does not know she sleeps above Natalee every night. They were frantic & didn’t realize yet that as they chained Natalee to their property, they also chained themselves with her.

    49. mayan_moons on September 16th, 2006 2:23 pm

      I look at that pic of Beth too Carpe & of Dave digging in a landfill with NOT AN ARUBAN TO BE FOUND. Dave must of been getting close to something in that landfill coz someone felt the need to pile more on to the place he was digging. Dave did not give up……he kept looking there & in the night a fire was set in the exact same place Dave was searching. What does that say people?? Says volumes to me.

      lol @ lifes a twitch
      Carpe your shizzz nitzz!~

    50. JusticeforNatalee on September 16th, 2006 2:32 pm

      #37 Oxbow–

      I can’t speak for everyone– but here is how I feel about the boycott:

      I don’t really “enjoy” that everyday Arubans are hurting from the boycott.

      But when I see numbers/facts that tell me that the boycott is working–that makes me hopeful that Aruba will get the message and finally give justice to Natalee.

      It’s ALL about justice for Natalee.

    51. JusticeforNatalee on September 16th, 2006 2:45 pm

      And Oxbow, Mortella made a good point. We don’t owe Aruba anything.

      We work very hard for our money and will spend it where we please.
      If Aruba treats our American daughters like dirt, then we will go elsewhere.

      One more point–Joran doesn’t seem to mind that the Arubans are suffering.
      He might go on TV and put on a show of really caring–but he doesn’t.

      If Joran cared, he would tell the truth about what happened to Natalee. And he would take the appropriate punishment like a man instead of lying and letting the Arubans and Holloway family suffer.

    52. ldstlou on September 16th, 2006 2:49 pm

      oxbow…since we are speaking of economics here..and how we are “enjoying” Aruba’s going down the wayside..let’s talk about it in terms of economics!! You act as though the 102,000 Aruban’s are VICTIMS!! EXCUSE ME!! They still have CHOICES!! Natalee does NOT!! So if I were working for a company who proved itself corrupt!!! irresponsible!!! EVIL!!!! would I chose to stay with that company and go down with the ship?? HELL NO!! But I would have CHOICES as to what my future held..wouldn’t I??? Do you understand the anger…the frustration Natalee’s family and we all feel that this little girl no longer has any choices in her future…in fact..she in all honesty no longer has a future. And You want us to feel compassion for the people of the Island of Aruba who still have options??!! NO WAY!!! Don’t like the way the company is being run..chance jobs…boycott…strike!!! PLENTY OF OPTIONS!!! So where is your sympathy and compassion you a-s!!!! Get real!!! The Arubans want to lay down and do nothing while their Island goes to hell…well thats their choice!!! BUT THEY STILL HAVE CHOICES!!! DO YOU UNDERSTAND!!! NATALEE NO LONGER DOES!!!! Do we have respect for people who want to lay down and take it?? NO!!!!!!!!! It is not a difficult position for the people of Aruba!!! SEND NATALEE HOME!!! Put the perpetrators in jail!! THAT IS ALL BETH AND DAVE EVER ASKED!!! It is all our movement has asked!! It’s not a difficult thing to do…NEVER WAS!!! But instead of doing the RIGHT THING!!! The Island of Aruba decided that the American dollars coming in were more important than the life of this precious little girl…they went EVEN FURTHER!!! and DECIDED!!! that the American dollars coming in were more important than giving this precious child a proper burial…a place for her family to mourn and pay their respects!!! WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS YOU MADE A DECISION….AND YOU BLEW IT!!! NOW YOU ARE LIVING WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF THOSE DECISIONS!! It is not us being cruel…who has been cruel here??!! It is simply..cause and effect!!! We no longer trust our citizens to Aruba!!! We no longer trust Aruba!! Whose fault is that??? ARUBA’S!!! So let’s talk about mistakes!! I was make a own up to it…you take responsibility…and you make amends!!! Not too much to ask from the American people who are supporting the 102,000 people of Aruba is it? And YOU DID NOT ARUBA!!! So you NO LONGER DESERVE OUR TRUST!!! YOU NO LONGER DESERVE OUR $$. We work hard!! We take vacations to connect again with ourselves…nature, our family, our frinds..GOD!!! Vacations are supposed to be a place of renewal…of celebration!!!…of connecting with our roots, family, friends!! It is SUPPOSED TO BE A PLACE TO RECHARGE!!! Aruba billed itself as a place for just that!! And what Natalee and her family and SM has shown…is it is not the place of sanctuary we were lead to believe. It is an Island of friggin PREDATORS!!! SO NO!!! WE WILL NO LONGER GO THERE!!! AND YES!!! WE ARTE VERY PROUD TO SPREAD THE WORD TO SAVE A FELLOW AMERICAN FROM THE PAIN NATALEE’S FAMILY HAS GONE THROUGH!!! All we asked…take responsibility for the actions of your people!! Send a sweet little girl home for a proper burial!!! Make your Island SAFE!!! It was BILLED AS OUR REFUGE!! YOU TOOK ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY ARUBA!!! WHEN YOU ACCEPTED US AS YOUR GUESTS!!!! You know..if someone evr came to my home for a visit…and was harmed?? to the last dying breath I took..I would try and make up for it!! Where is your integrity Aruba??

    53. wreck on September 16th, 2006 2:50 pm

      Arubans miss the the entire point of the “boycott.” It is NOT because “a couple of officials did a poor job”, or that even that this crime happened in Aruba (crime happens everywhere.) It is because the “officials” are CORRUPT and the the other 102,000 allow them to be so.

    54. Carpe Noctem on September 16th, 2006 3:05 pm

      Oduber is the Emperor of Aruba!!!

      and his new see through
      threads are just DUCKY.

      A O’Doozer PUT IT ON,

      ya big skank-a-tomic


      Be gone with you,
      yer mouth wash
      has expired sometime
      last year, and we’re
      so over ya.


      –Justice 4 Natalee–

      …”and this IS

    55. SL-Gloria on September 16th, 2006 3:08 pm

      Maybe Kelmal is right. Aruba will never tell what happened. But who is Aruba in this case? I imagine she refers to the private sector and political structures that manage tourism affairs. Then, Kelmal is not referring to the pack of young men that includes the main suspects and the friends. Kelmal is referring to the official machinery that has covered up the facts and evidence that could have unveiled the truth about Natalee Holloway’s disappearance. So, Kelmal is actually stating that there has been a conspirators agreement between AHATA, the Office of the Prime Minister and Arubian Legal Authorities to cover-up the crime committed against Natalee.

      The way Kelmal categorically asserts the position she believes Aruba has regarding this case, indicates that in essence she agrees with most of the members of this site. She is actually implying that there was a conscious intent to protect those responsible for Natalee’s final destiny, in order to further protect others that indirectly contributed to the way the investigation developed. Then one has to wonder what does Kelmal means when she states, “This crime goes way to (sic) DEEP.”

      The crime most likely took place probably within two hours after the threesome left C & C with the victim. So in order for the crime to have gone “too DEEP”, I presume Kelmal does not think a beach bum harmed Natalee after Joran left her at the beach. I don’t think a quick burial by two or more of the young men and their immediate friends for later disposal at sea would be “to (sic) DEEP” either.

      I conclude then that Kelmal has information most likely related to an extra-official “crime evidence disposal unit” established in Aruba with the underwritten consent of AHATA, ATA and the authorities. The purpose of this unit could be to wipe out crimes committed against tourists for international image preservation purposes. In the case of Natalee, one of the suspects or someone related could have alerted this special unit of the existence of the corpse, and the clean-up unit could have taken care of all evidence. If that’s the case, then definitely this goes in too deep and many people would indeed get hurt, hence the silence. But these people do not include the more than 100,000 citizens of Aruba who now suffer the consequences of a sluggish economy. Unfortunately, the people of Aruba freely chose their government and have benefited from the boom that tourism brought to the island. The citizens of Aruba have had their steak. Now it’s time to chew the bones. They will have a saying again in three years time. Let’s see whom they vote for and lets hope that the chosen PM and its Parliament do not disappoint the Arubians.

      Personally, I believe that when too many people know, someone is liable to say something sooner or later, and if it happens, the stink will burst and it will stench all the way to the Fatherland and foreign soils.

    56. ldstlou on September 16th, 2006 3:08 pm

      YOU invited US Aruba!!! Of all the places in the world to vacation…to recharge, renew, reconnect…Natalee and Americans chose YOU!! What an honor!!! But instead of looking at it as an honor…you chose to look at it only as dollars and cents!!! It did not matter to you..who your guests were…whether they were safe!! if they were harmed in YOUR HOUSE!! Instead you chose to look at us American’s not as PEOPLE!!! You won’t even say her name!! HER NAME IS NATALEE!!! HER DAD IS DAVE..HER BROKEN HEARTED MOM IS BETH!!! You PROVED to us…it was not our COMPANY YOU ENJOYED!!! IT WAS NOT OUR WELFARE YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT!! It was only our dollars!! And what we are saying to you Aruba is..SCREW YOU!!! Find someone else besides the American population to exploit and take advantage of…AND DESTROY!!!

    57. mayan_moons on September 16th, 2006 3:35 pm

      oops Carpe i meant you are the SHizzz Nitzz!~ lol

      love your way with words!~

    58. KELMAL on September 16th, 2006 3:37 pm

      GLORIA, THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU !!!THANK YOU !!! I do AGREE with most of the members. Nobody knows who killed her but they all know what happened to her. I have always wanted Justice but after ALL the cover-up and all the evidence that has been detroyed it is now IMPOSSIBLE to solve this case. It runs way, way to deep. IMO this case is dead. There is no media coverage, nothing in the papers. Hell JQK will tell you the same thing. Alot of people on here are also starting to believe it is over. Some get pi$$ed off at me because of my opinion. I say SO WHAT !!!Our only and LAST chance for justice was with JQK in New York. He failed. CASE CLOSED !!! Don’t shoot the messenger !!!

    59. Carpe Noctem on September 16th, 2006 4:09 pm

      SLIDE 0060

      ARU-BAY SLIDE by Carpe

      510-24 Basin Video


      We love ya Holloway/Twitty

      These jerks will be BROUGHT TO justice,
      or they will have it DELIVERED like a
      pizza one of these days.

      Please know that
      we stand with ya…
      or HELL… EVEN FOR YA, if you
      are too tired.

      There are a lot of people
      all over the world who “get it”
      and really care.

      I know I do,
      and there are
      millions more.

      Hang in there!

    60. dennisintn on September 16th, 2006 4:10 pm

      beth apologized because oduber and the a.l.e. were going to call off the searches for natalee and her killers. beth holloway twitty swallowed her pride and apologized so that her daughter might be found. that was a magnanimous thing for beth to do for her daughter. so far, aruba hasn’t followed through with their part of the bargain. and they and the timeshare owners haven’t stopped trying to destroy natalee’s reputation or stopped trying to strip the meat off of beth and family.

    61. mayan_moons on September 16th, 2006 4:23 pm

      arubans still playing dumb when they say we’re punishing them coz a few officials did a bad job. you just keep on believing that you ignorant morons.

    62. Carpe Noctem on September 16th, 2006 4:33 pm

      mayan moons, thank you. oh snap! you said the shiznit!!! ;)


    63. JusticeforNatalee on September 16th, 2006 4:39 pm


      If you think the case is over and there is no hope, then why do you come here? What is your point?

      Many disagree with you and I am one of them.

      There IS hope and we are not giving up.


    64. JusticeforNatalee on September 16th, 2006 4:42 pm

      Beth was practically forced to apologize.

      And she did it out of love for Natalee.

    65. Carpe Noctem on September 16th, 2006 4:52 pm

      hey kelmal, who is the ambiguously vague “WE” and “OUR”
      of which you speak Cinderella?

      …has you got a frog
      in yas pocket again?


    66. chris on September 16th, 2006 4:56 pm

      Well guess what Kel, it’s your dearest friend once more. Why is it you just hop from one headline to the next spreading your ever so dumb words.
      I have tried to take peoples’ advice and pay you no mind, but you know what, I like to be able to post and read what the Natalee supporters have to say, but I just can’t get past your crap. As long as you’ve been here people have told you what they think of you, but you only love it when your name is mentioned, no matter what it may be at the moment.
      I can tolerate most anything in life, but I simply can’t take stupid people.
      You have NEVER had a thought of your own, only either agreeing or disagreeing with legit posters.
      I’m so tired of the same sh-t like: Oh yes, I’ve thought so too and I’ve been saying it for a year etc. You haven’t said anything constructive ever. Obviously the english language is something foreign to you.
      Do not respond, I won’t be here to read it any more.
      I’ll continue to support the families of Natalee, drive my Mazda around with the boycott pictures and affix the stickers to every piece of mail, thanks to Michelle’s generosity.

      To the rest of you, it’s been real and you all be sure and keep responding to the idiot whose only contribution has been to tell us how hopeless the case is and how JQK was our last hope. What an a–hole!!!!!!!!!

    67. nychic on September 16th, 2006 5:28 pm

      KELMAL -

      Has The Case Been Officially Closed In Aruba ?? NO
      Have The Dutch Investigators and Interpol
      Finished Their New Investigation ? NO

      Therefore The Case Is NOT CLOSED !!

      #48 mayan-
      I agree with that theory -
      I read here very early in the case that the “MO”
      for getting rid of a body in Aruba was to hide
      it on your own property -
      The fire in the landfill was probably where the
      Sloot’s old furniture was dumped -

      p.s. Kelmal – To Answer Your Question:
      If you are in Cozumel
      I Will Take Cabo San Lucas !

    68. Maggie on September 16th, 2006 5:37 pm

      NYChiC, I get that same not authorized message, but the links work fine, so I just ignore it.

      I believe Beth, Dave and JQK know much more about this case,then what they have told everyone else. SM said they only tell us about 5% of what they know. Humans are fallible, so I don’t believe any case is unsolvable. Hope is what keeps everyone going. It doesn’t matter what the subject is. Just from reading the statements, it’s evident a sexual assault took place on Natalee, amongst other crimes. The more people involved, the more one is likely to talk. There is more than one way to crack a walnut.

      Like JoeM said they can run, but they can’t hide.

    69. 10061906 on September 16th, 2006 5:53 pm

      Tim states he would need $150.000.00 to resume searching for Natalee 5 to 10 miles out in the ocean. He is basing Natalee being there on the fisherman’s trap and knife that are missing. He has not stated in what direction to look. Unless he has more information then we do he would have to play a hunch to avoid searching a very large area. Let’s take his estimate of ten miles out and the width of the island being 6 miles.
      Taking a point from the middle of the island that would be approximately 530 square miles to search.
      Now what would it take for Joran, Deepak and Satish to bury Natalee at sea.
      Obviously they need a boat. I don’t believe the three have access to their own boat. They would have to use someone else’s. Who do we know have access to boats? Steve Croes and Keon Gottenbos. Now we have more suspects involved. Steve would have had to ask his boss for use of a boat and Koen would have had to ask his father. Remember this is in the early AM hours. Now we have more possible suspects involved. I don’t see how the fisherman’s knife fits in but yes maybe the net.
      If Natalee was accidentally killed and this route for disposal was used, boat and net, I don’t think there would have been sufficient time. Also on this side of the island there is too much activity and a good chance of being seen. I don’t think this could have happened on the West side of the island. However; the other side of the island is fairly deserted except for daytime tourists.
      There is a possibility that some other unknown person(s) supplied a boat. Maybe a friend of Paulus; (maybe Keon’s father). That would explain the ATM withdrawals. But again this brings more subjects into the picture. I personally feel the net and knife are red herrings. There has been too much emphasis on them and too much redirection by Dompig.
      Since we have no evidence or testimonies except lies, some assumptions have to be made from those lies.
      Establishing a motive.
      Was this an act of three males wanting to get it on with a female?
      Get a girl drunk, have sex and then get rid of her.
      Was it the act of misogamists? Where there more than the three involved?
      Perhaps the statement: “we all had sex with Natalee, you would be surprised how easy it was”. Again no one asks HOW MANY. No one picks up and asks who the “ALL” were.
      IMO I think the three suspects, the father, Guido, Geoffery ,Koen, Andreas and Michael Dompig are all involved. The reason I say Michael Dompig is his father changed his opinion of what happened to Natalee almost overnight. Gerald Dompig claims it was knew evidence. Again we have the truth but not all the truth. The new evidence could be he found out Michael, Geoffrey and Andreas were also involved. You have to really pay attention to how questions were asked and the how the responses were given.
      To keep the number of persons involved that could give a damaging testimony to a minimum, I would try and find any easy method of getting rid of a body.
      Again the assumptions that Natalee may have been taken to the van der Sloots and she died there; what would I do to keep the numbers down, I would do it myself. Do I call an undertaker and get more people involved? Probably not but I did consider cremation a possibility.
      Look at where Joran lives in Montana. If you leave Montana and take rte 3A east in about two miles or so you would be near the abandoned gold mines. Early in the case quite a few thought that Natalee may have been disposed of in one of the opened airshafts. Some of these shafts are reported to be in excess of 800 feet deep.

      That could explain generally the location where the blouse material and duct tape were found. How did they get Natalee there. Wrapped up in bed sheets and placed in the back of PVDS’s pick up truck. The road to the mines is secluded and no one would be in that area in the morning.
      It has been stated: “If anyone knows how to get rid of a body Paulus does”. “That is why he is so sure of no body no case”. It is basically in plain view but almost totally inaccesible.

    70. JusticeforNatalee on September 16th, 2006 6:08 pm

      Would the VDS love for us to throw in the towel?

      Will we?

    71. Maggie on September 16th, 2006 6:11 pm

      If you didn’t see it on the other thread, this was JQK’s comment about the casino tape.

      On April 3, 2006 JOHN Q. KELLY stated to MSNBC:

      COSBY … John, first of all, is there a possibility that Paulus might have been talking to Natalee the night that she disappeared?

      JOHN Q. KELLY, HOLLOWAY FAMILY ATTORNEY: Well, if you look at the surveillance video footage, it appears that he’s the one sitting directly next to her and tries to engage her in conversation a couple of times. And it’s sort of ironic that it’s his father who brought his underage son to a casino and left him there after he left, with access to his line of credit, to put this unfortunate chain of events in process.

      COSBY: And did he ever say that he had talked to Natalee or not before?

      KELLY: No, it’s never even been addressed before whether or not that’s Paulus in the videotape there sitting next to her. And it certainly appears to be to me.

    72. Carpe Noctem on September 16th, 2006 6:21 pm

      Hey Mayan Moons…

      and anybody else who wants
      to call it as they see it
      with some honest feedback!

      Slides 61 & 62 butted back to back

      for comparison.

      Body(s) in the Basin


      A new angle to view it from.

      What are you seeing?

      This is a JPG… it is of pretty
      decent size and quality.
      I have a bigger higher quality .png
      file if you want it emailed. I am
      always here.

      here is your link:


      ” Yah, isn’t dat veird ??? ” -Goldfinger

      it’s September 2006
      …and ya still
      suck !

    73. on September 16th, 2006 6:32 pm

      Kemal: Let’s say that you are right (which is very doubtful since you are a troll who switches his tune with the wind); then you could do Aruba a BIG favor by telling them to shut down their tourism because it ain’t coming back.

      Oxbow: Do you suggest we start a campaign: Send your daughters to Aruba to be raped and murdered because 102,000 Aruban people might suffer a bit if you don’t?

      Get serious! Aruba has proved that it is not a safe place to be if you are an American. Not just because Natalee was raped and murdered there but because Aruba sent a message to every deviant on that Island: “We’ll let you get away with murdering and raping Americans.” With that message it put a huge target on the back of every single American and anyone who goes to Aruba now is simply not using their brains.

    74. JusticeforNatalee on September 16th, 2006 6:32 pm

      New statement on front page

    75. mayan_moons on September 16th, 2006 6:42 pm

      Hey Chris!

      I enjoy your posts & will miss them if you stop.
      Your posts show a caring person & we need all of
      those we can get. Take care!~

    76. Maggie on September 16th, 2006 6:46 pm

      very well said # 73!

    77. mayan_moons on September 16th, 2006 6:59 pm

      HEY SM!~

      I’m having trouble too, when i go back to recent previous articles looking for links posted in the comments it says there are No comments ye??

    78. KELMAL on September 16th, 2006 7:41 pm

      Katablog, Aruba was NOT a safe place BEFORE Natalee went there and EVERYBODY from MBHS knew that !!!

    79. KELMAL on September 16th, 2006 7:45 pm

      Maggie, JQK said that 5 months ago.He had 5 months to confirm that was Paulus. If that was Paulus I am sure JQK would have told us. But since he hasn’t, I’m sure it has been confirmed it is NOT Paulus !!

    80. KELMAL on September 16th, 2006 7:49 pm

      Justice, FORCED to Apologize !!! Nobody is FORCED to Apologize. I’m sure if Beth had it to do over again she wouldn’t apologize. What even made it worse was JUG stood right by her side while she did this. WHY ?????????

    81. mayan_moons on September 16th, 2006 7:49 pm


      They probably did send the furniture to the dump but what if certain pieces of that furniture was salvaged either by the people who took it there or someone who saw the furniture being put there & thought they could use it rather than trashing it. Its still daylight when the furniture truck is in the VDS driveway & possible that the furniture sat there unattended till dark when the fire could be set with being noticed giving dumpster divers a chance to take what they wanted.

      Just think….if someone did take some of the furniture to use themselves its possible that upon closer inspection in their own home they might’ve seen some blood or blonde hairs entwined somehow.

    82. Carpe Noctem on September 16th, 2006 8:03 pm





    83. 10061906 on September 16th, 2006 8:15 pm

      Kelmal that is a very broad and inconclusive statement. Where or when did you come to that conclusion.

    84. mayan_moons on September 16th, 2006 8:29 pm


      Very interesting those last stills, i’ve been seeing ALOT in these slides! More than 2 hands….more of everything!

    85. Maggie on September 16th, 2006 8:45 pm

      He already told us ..does he have to keep repeating it? He said it sure looks like PAULUS. Has he ever came out and said that isn’t Paulus? If so give me a place to read where he said it isn’t. You would probably be surprised all the stuff he knows and hasn’t said in public, same with Natalee’s family.

      Carpe the beach pictures LOL.. Come get away from it all..

    86. Maggie on September 16th, 2006 8:57 pm

      The only reason Beth apologized was to stay in good with the ones investigating her daughter’s disappearance. She was well aware she was in a foreign county and had already witnesses strange things going on.

    87. KELMAL on September 16th, 2006 9:05 pm

      maggie, The girl Joran is dating now looks like Natalee. Does that make her Natalee. Hell no. Just because someone looks like him doesn’t mean it is him. Seems like I am talking to a 3rd grader here. JQK has had plenty of time to CONFIRM it was him if it was him. Of coarse it was NOT him. END OF STORY !!!!!! Luv Ya Kel


      SM:   No offense KELMAL, but the girl Joran WAS dating didn’t look at all like Natalee.   Every blonde does not look “just alike”.   Since when do you have inside information that it was NOT Paulus??   I say let’s just wait and see.   ;) (klaasend)

    88. SL-Gloria on September 16th, 2006 9:26 pm

      # 58, Kelmal

      Disagree Kelmal. By your own words, this case goes too deep; too many people would get hurt. When you agreed with the comment above, you were agreeing to the existence of machinery designed to cover-up crimes committed against tourists in Aruba. So the people that are in too deep do know who killed Natalee and which private and governmental Arubian institutions are responsible for the systematic “disappearance” of anyone that gets hurt while in Aruba.

      It’s too simplistic to believe that J. Q. Kelly was the last resort. I am totally convinced that both the lending of a Dutch national in charge of the NA & Aruba Coast Guard to lead the Police Force and the proposed centralization of the legal and judicial systems under Dutch governance is more than a mere coincidence. I believe this is the result of a negotiation between Washington and The Hague. There is more to come and all we have to do is sit and watch. It is not over yet; the scandal is coming. Obviously, not just about Natalee, but the old Master has definitely been required by his ally to bring stability and control back to the area, and there will be scapegoats. And when the goat is about to be slaughtered, it bleats.

    89. IndyDan on September 16th, 2006 9:43 pm

      SL-gloria: Kemal is never right, this twerp is into nothing but irritating and agitating for attention. Why can’t everyone see that? Months ago we ran it off when it posted as johnm. But after summer break was over it came back as Kemal. This is just a teenage dweeb getting it’s attention by jerking the emotions of those wanting justice for Natalee Holloway and her family. Sl- Kemal has no information to anything, it’s a pudwhacker with too much time on it’s hands.
      Chris – if you let this immature little jerker run you off, it wins.

    90. Maggie on September 16th, 2006 9:54 pm

      johnm if you feel like you are talking to a 3rd grader, I suggest you stop talking to yourself and get a pet rock.

    91. mayan_moons on September 16th, 2006 11:30 pm

      lol Maggie

      *drops an anvil on troll*

    92. Carpe Noctem on September 17th, 2006 6:12 am

      dang SL-Gloria
      has been taking em
      to the friggin hoop.

      sl g writes:


      “And when the goat is about to be slaughtered, it bleats”


      go gloria, it’s your “berf-day”!

      “gonna cuff and stuff ‘em”

      -Roscoe P. Coletrane

      coo cooo
      cooo cooooo

    93. Carpe Noctem on September 17th, 2006 9:00 am


      –Justice 4 Natalee Holloway–

    94. KELMAL on September 17th, 2006 11:10 am

      carpe, GREAT sign. That sign was made just for you !!!!!!!!!

    95. Carpe Noctem on September 17th, 2006 12:09 pm
    96. Mortella on September 17th, 2006 3:57 pm

      #80 Kelmel,
      We have been over this a dozen times. Beth apologized because both van der Straaten and Karin Janssen threatened to stop the investigation entirely if she did not. And please recall all she apologized for was calling the Kelpoes criminals and if she had offended any body unintentionally, blah, blah. She NEVER apologized for saying who was last seen with her daughter nor for saying what a lousy job ALE was doing, just to those who had helped her.

      Can you imagine what would happen to a cop in this country if he told the mother of a missing child that if she did not apologize, he would just stop the investigation?

      Very mature and professional, Aruba. And for this, you owe Beth an apology. Shame on you for doing this to her.

    97. Carpe Noctem on September 17th, 2006 4:37 pm

      Can you imagine what would happen to a cop in this country if he told the mother of a missing child that if she did not apologize, he would just stop the investigation?


      yes mortella, the cop would be beaten senselessly!!!

      this did not happen to oduber, van der straaten,
      jacobs-O-saurus or the murdering lying predatory van der rapists…

      but STILL, for me there is always H O P E! ;)


    98. viet vet on September 18th, 2006 5:42 am

      #96, Mortella, you are correct. The ALE and government leaders threatened Beth into the apology for using the word criminals. They used Gestapo tactics on us the entire time we were there. They could have expelled all of us, and did threaten that at one time. It is still hard to relate to the world how ugly and rude they were/are. We were told before our children went to Aruba how safe it is there, no crime, very clean, “one happy island”. Hindsight is always 20/20, but believe me, it is one corrupt island. Big Fat Dennis and his hand always out for a contribution, the lying Van Der Sloots/Kalpoes, and a justice system to protect criminals. Keep the pressure on there, boycott them till Hell freezes over. If they get hungry we can air drop them cases of plaid shirts.

    99. super dave on September 18th, 2006 8:48 am

      kelmel, the only inside info you have is inside your own head and what little smart remark you annoy us with. you are pathetic and an embarrasment to the human race.

    100. stumpwater on September 18th, 2006 9:56 am

      #98, Thank you for giving us all an eyewitness account of how the Holloway and Twitty families were treated while they searched for Natalee, heartbreaking to think of what you were all put through.

      Everyone closely involved in this preventable tragedy have been in my prayers since the beginning… I think it’safe to say that many others have been doing the same.

      Keep the faith, don’t give up, vengeance truly does belong to the Lord.

    101. Carpe Noctem on September 18th, 2006 2:23 pm

      If they get hungry we can air drop them cases of plaid shirts.

      Comment by viet vet | September 18, 2006, 5:42 am



      ROFL Cases of Plaid Shirts.


      ty sir I needed that laugh today.


    102. KELMAL on September 18th, 2006 2:55 pm

      AlL I know is that if I was Beth I would NOT have apoogized. She should have NO excuses. She even did this with Jug at her side. Jug has a lot in common with Joe M. SAD !!!

    103. Carpe Noctem on September 18th, 2006 4:17 pm

      Sad because she was made to do it by a country
      of murderous raping Van de Slut supporters!

      Kelmal, you would have shut your cancerous,
      dripping, acidic mouth… or you would have
      had it hit shut. Didn’t Joran tell that
      to the Kalpoes when they were all behind
      bars like the animals they are? ;)


      Beth is a hero of the highest measure. That infuriates

    104. Carpe Noctem on September 18th, 2006 4:36 pm
    105. KELMAL on September 18th, 2006 4:56 pm

      carpe, You are right. Beth is a HERO and we ALL love her. She just had a weak moment, thats all. I blame Jug more than I blame her. He just stood there and watched her. -R4N-

    106. Carpe Noctem on September 18th, 2006 5:14 pm

      Have to disagree kel. it was her strongest moment to grin and bear it for her daughter…. that takes more strength than the murdering van der sloots will ever know. they are enmpty,

      and jug would have ended this thing in 48 hours!!!

      “give us nat alive or dead, and we’ll leave & go home” Jug Twitty

      Another American Hero!!! In my eyes.

      The Van der Sloots are empty MURDERING RAPING – no conscience – no care. Empty shells that resemble humans. It will be nice to see them dealt with soon. imo


    107. Bob on September 18th, 2006 8:32 pm

      In my business opinion…..if the tourist decline continues at the current rate, and the 3/4 yr figures drop to a minus 22-24% over 2005, we will finally get action. In the long run, $$$ runs everything, even on a corrupt island. You want justice? Email EVERY travel agency or better yet, get into your car and visit the local travel office where you live. Be polite and ask that THEY do NOT offer/advertise Aruba travel packages, or encourage vacationers to book an Aruba destination. Remind your local travel agent that YOU are their traveling public and their customers. Keep the boycott pressure on, heavy.

    108. Tracy on November 8th, 2006 1:40 pm

      Can someone please forward to me information on stickers for boycotting Aruba etc. I am boycotting Aruba and want to join the rest of you. I am impressed with all of your research/work that you all have done. I continue to read all of your comments and I support the Halloway family.
      Thank you for your help.
      Justice for Natalee

    109. Scared Monkeys on November 10th, 2006 5:36 pm

      [...]  Data available for the first five months of 2006 show that stay-over tourists and their nights spent on the island decreased by 10.6 percent and 7.8 percent, respectively. [...]

    110. Stormy on December 16th, 2007 9:14 pm



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