Supreme Court Stupidity; Salim Ahmed Hamdan Decision … SCOTUS 5-3 that the trials for 10 foreign terror suspects violate U.S. military law & the Geneva conventions.
Today the Supreme Court just made this country a little less safe. The Supreme Court ruled 5–3 that President George W. Bush over-stepped his authority in ordering military war crimes trials for GITMO detainees and that the trials for 10 foreign terror suspects violate U.S. military law and the Geneva conventions.
The court declared 5-3 that the trials for 10 foreign terror suspects violate U.S. military law and the Geneva conventions.
The ruling raises major questions about the legal status of the approximately 450 men still being held at the U.S. military prison in Cuba and exactly how, when and where the administration might pursue the charges against them.
The judicial stupidity astounds me. Treat them like criminals? What next, bail? Why don’t we just let them out on remand with the promise to show up to court. Why not, we do it for illegal aliens that are caught. Hell, lets afford them all the rights of American citizens, the very same people that they are trying to kill.
Only in America can a case be brought to a court byformer driver and be won. The Supreme Court should be ashamed of itself this evening. But with such recent rulings like seizing American citizens private property with Eminent Domain, is it any wonder.
“It is profoundly disturbing that the court would take away from the commander in chief the sole discretion of determining what is militarily necessary,” he said, describing the ruling as “a historical disgrace on the court.” (Yahoo News)
Justice John Paul Stevens, writing for the court, said the Bush administration lacked the authority to take the “extraordinary measure” of scheduling special military trials for inmates, in which defendants have fewer legal protections than in civilian U.S. courts.
The decision blocked a trial for Salim Ahmed Hamdan, a Yemeni who worked as a bodyguard and driver for Osama bin Laden. Hamdan, 36, has spent four years in the U.S. prison in Cuba. He faces a single count of conspiring to commit terrorism against U.S. citizens from 1996 to November 2001.
(Camp Delta 4 military-run prison, at the Guantanamo Bay US Naval Base, Cuba, Reuters)
Think about what these left leaning robe wearing fools just did. John Paul Stevens, David Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer and Anthony Kennedy have effectively put terrorist in the same category as US citizens.
“We conclude that the military commission convened to try (Salim Ahmed) Hamdan lacks power to proceed because its structure and procedures violate” the international agreement that covers treatment of prisoners of war, as well as the Uniform Code of Military Justice.”
Uniform code of military justice? Geneva conventions? WTF. Who the hell are you people kidding? Maybe you five black rode wearing idiots would like to tell the families of Pfc. Kristian Menchaca of Houston, TX and Pfc. Thomas L. Tucker of Madras, OR who were just laid to rest who were savagely and inhumanely tortured by these very same sub-humans you wish to provide refuge with the Geneva conventions. Where is the outrage over these two American soldiers violation of their Geneva Conventions rights?
Two American soldiers have been tortured to death, their bodies mutilated.Al-Qaeda in Iraq has bragged on the Internet that its new leader, apparently eager to boost his image as a butcher, personally “slaughtered” Pfc. Kristian Menchaca, 23, of Texas, and Pfc. Thomas L. Tucker, 25, of Oregon. The Arab term “nahr,” which applies to the ritual slitting of a sheep’s throat, was used.
The lack of common sense and putting the United States ability to fight terrorism first and foremost is disgusting. However, somehow its OK when American soldiers are tortured. But these sub-humans who make torture a way of life and a sport are supposed to be protected by the very laws they care nothing about.
Terrorist treated as criminals. I want you all to think about Nick Berg, a free-lance telecommunications contractor from West Chester, PA who was savagely be-headed. We will not show or link to the video; however, it is easily enough accessible on line. We would treat these savages in accordance with the Geneva convention and as criminals? What planet do these justices live on?
In a grainy execution video eerily similar to one in 2002 that showed al-Qaeda operatives executing a Wall Street Journal reporter in Pakistan, Berg was shown sitting in an orange jumpsuit in front of five armed, hooded men.
Berg’s body was found on a highway overpass in Baghdad on Saturday.
One really has to wonder what the hell these people are thinking and the damage they just caused. The hell with the military tribunals, these fools just gave terrorist thug assassins protection rights under the Geneva Convention. The SCOTUS blog states it perfectly:
Even more importantly for present purposes, the Court held that Common Article 3 of Geneva applies as a matter of treaty obligation to the conflict against Al Qaeda. That is the HUGE part of today’s ruling. The commissions are the least of it. This basically resolves the debate about interrogation techniques, because Common Article 3 provides that detained persons “shall in all circumstances be treated humanely,” and that “[t]o this end,” certain specified acts “are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever”—including “cruel treatment and torture,” and “outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment.” This standard, not limited to the restrictions of the due process clause, is much more restrictive than even the McCain Amendment.
The only ones that had a clue that we are in a war against terrorist were the Supreme court’s conservatives — Justices Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito, who was appointed by Bush who dissented.
The court’s willingness, Thomas wrote in the dissent, “to second-guess the determination of the political branches that these conspirators must be brought to justice is both unprecedented and dangerous.”
As bad as a ruling that this is by the Supreme Court, the ACLU, libs and terrorist rights sympathizers best not pop the champaign so soon. As others have referenced, the SCOTUS just gave Republicans and George Bush a huge political gift. I believe the Counterterrorism blog is right on the mark.
The President and GOP leaders will propose a bill to override the decision and keep the terrorists in jail until they are securely transferred to host countries for permanent punishment. The Administration and its allies will release plenty of information on the terrorist acts committed by the detainees for which they were detained.
They will also release information about those terrorist acts committed by Gitmo prisoners after they were released. They will challenge the “judicial interference with national security” and challenge dissenting Congressmen and civil libertarians to either stand with the terrorists or the American people.
If anyone wants to know why Democrats will not win the White House or the House or the Senate, one only needs to look at the statements of House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi. Frankly it should scare the hell out of all of you, no matter what your political affiliation is.
WASHINGTON, June 29 /U.S. Newswire/ — House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi released the following statement today following the United States Supreme Court decision that trying Guantanamo detainees before military commissions violates U.S. law and the Geneva Conventions:
“Today’s Supreme Court decision reaffirms the American ideal that all are entitled to the basic guarantees of our justice system. This is a triumph for the rule of law.
“The rights of due process are among our most cherished liberties, and today’s decision is a rebuke of the Bush Administration’s detainee policies and a reminder of our responsibility to protect both the American people and our Constitutional rights. We cannot allow the values on which our country was founded to become a casualty in the war on terrorism.”
Nancy Pelosi, its these terrorist’s rights you are defending.
WIZBANG is dead on … The Democrats now have a new slogan for the Mid-term elections in 2006 and the Presidential elections in 2008 … “Vote for the Democrats. They’re the party for terrorists’ rights.”
Nancy Pelosi and the rest of you that relish in todays court decision, I realize you all have short term memory … but do you remember this … September 11, 2001.
So we would treat these people responsible for such acts as common criminals? See you in the polls in 2006 & 2008.