Beth Twitty Reacts to Joran interview from Abrams Report


From ‘The Abrams Report’ for February 24, 2006, Beth Twitty reacts to Joran Van der Sloot claiming tho be the victim. Beth brings up an interesting point although Joran will never do it and that’s if he can come to the US for a TV interview, then why not answer some questions from John Q. Kelly under oath?

The rest of the interview:

ABRAMS: So what do you make of this interview that Joran did, now you’ve gotten a chance to hear it, what’s your reaction?

TWITTY: Well you know I think my reaction is, you know as usual, Dan, Joran places all the blame on Natalee, all the initiation of any of the activities where they went that night, you know how she behaved that night. You know it just seems to be going right along with Joran’s M.O. of always placing every built of responsibility on Natalee and it’s just—it’s so difficult for him—for me to sit here and let him do that.

ABRAMS: Yes. He talked about when they met at the bar and here’s what he said about what actually led them to start really talking.


VAN DER SLOOT: She took me by the hand and she took me to the bar and she jumped on the bar, laid down and told the bartender to give me a jelly shot to put in her belly button and take the jelly shot off her.


ABRAMS: Is that one of the comments that you’re talking about?

TWITTY: Exactly, Dan. I mean there again he’s making Natalee look as if—you know it’s almost as if he’s trying to say that she asked for it. That everything—every aspect about it was due to her initiation.

ABRAMS: How do you feel about the comments that he made about you? I mean he talked about your interaction with him, but he also said—made a very hurtful comment that he claimed that Natalee had said that—some horrible things about you.

TWITTY: Well, they’re just simply untrue. There again, I mean, you know there was a comment where Joran was saying that I was—something about I’m Hitler’s daughter, that I was yelling at him and you know, Dan, that night I remained seated in the back seat of a car the entire time. I was so stunned that I couldn’t even get out of the car to approach Joran. I mean he approached me in an aggressive matter. I didn’t even approach Joran.

ABRAMS: Yes. This is—here’s again what he said. He says that the first time that you all met, you were screaming at him. Here’s what he said and then I want to hear you—hear what you have to say.


VAN DER SLOOT: All she said to me, she screamed at me was tell me where my daughter is.


VAN DER SLOOT: I told her that I didn’t know.


ABRAMS: And that’s not the way it happened?

TWITTY: No, Dan, I was seated in the back seat of a car, and the door was ajar and Joran is the one who approached me in the car and yes, I did in a firm manner ask him what did he do with Natalee and you know he just kept hitting his chest and throwing his head back and was just so arrogant and so condescending to me and you know, Dan, I was so stunned that I couldn’t even hardly come up with anything besides, you know, what did you do with Natalee? And it’s just—what he’s saying is just simply untrue and I hope that all of your viewers see straight through this.

ABRAMS: How do you feel about the fact that he did the interview? I mean on the one hand, I’ve got to assume it’s difficult for you to listen to. On the other hand, you know you filed this civil lawsuit and I’m sure your lawyers have told you that as a legal matter, having more statements out there is better.

TWITTY: Well, I think you’re exactly right and one thing I’m really glad is that Joran is willing to travel to New York. He’s shown us it’s very convenient for him and he’s willing to give interviews, so I don’t see why now, since John Kelly has—you know we filed this civil lawsuit that he can come back and answer questions from him under oath, so I think it was a positive move on Joran’s part as far as us proceeding forward in a civil suit.

ABRAMS: You know I was struck by some of the things that he said that you know even if he believed some of this stuff, for him to say it now was at the very least in bad taste. He said—talking about the first—when he first found out that Natalee had gone missing, the first thing that popped in my head was he said an expletive.

What if something happened to her? What if she went swimming? I was thinking after everything she told me that she probably might have gone back to her hotel, gone with someone else, hooked up with someone else and wanted to stay another day on the island.

TWITTY: You know, Dan, and if anyone believes that, then how can we go back and see that Joran had fabricated that story within several hours of the family arriving on the island, and you know, Joran didn’t know Mickey John and Abraham Jones. He had to have help from adults, whether it was in the police department, on the island of Aruba.

Somebody knew the history of those two suspects to implicate them. You know this didn’t come from Joran van der Sloot and Deepak and Satish Kalpoe. I think of all the work and organization that went on behind this one lie is incredible.

ABRAMS: Joran was asked about the allegation in the lawsuit that he has used drugs to drug women, and assaulted other women in the past, or at the very least, mistreated them, and he said simply not true. He’s never used any sort of date rape drug; he’s never had anyone who’s complained about his behavior et cetera. How are you so certain that it has happened in the past?

TWITTY: There were two—I know of two young girls. One was 16 and one was 14 years of age, and it was difficult for these girls to do, but they did come forward. They had to hire an attorney. They gave statements to the police. You know, these were real girls that were coming forward.

We don’t know what happened or what transpired, why that never went any further than it did. We don’t know if it had something to do with—I was told that Dennis Jacobs (ph) had strongly—had talked to the girls and was really putting the pressure on them to retract this, so you know, we just don’t know how far that some individuals in that police department were going to go to put a stop to those girls coming forward. But they were real girls and they had been assaulted by Joran under the influence of drugs.

ABRAMS: How hard was it for you to watch this interview?

TWITTY: Oh, I—you know, I saw it last night and I don’t want to see it again, Dan. I don’t want to watch it ever again.

ABRAMS: Because watching I assume even him speak about anything has got to be hard for you.

TWITTY: You know and I think it is and the most difficult part is that I see Joran is able to somewhat try to defend himself, although every time he does, he really just more lies evolve, but you know Natalee can’t do this, Dan. She’s unable to defend herself, just as she was that night that she was in the car with those three suspects. She’s in the same position today.

ABRAMS: Yes and this is what Joran said about how he’d feel if Natalee turned up alive.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What would you say to Natalee if you were still able to speak to her?

VAN DER SLOOT: If I were to see her, if I—if she were to be found tomorrow, I think I’d hate her. I’d hate her…


ABRAMS: Yes, that has to be hard to hear.

TWITTY: Yes. Well…

ABRAMS: Let me ask you this…

TWITTY: It’s just one (INAUDIBLE).

ABRAMS: How certain are you that Joran van der Sloot was involved in Natalee’s disappearance?

TWITTY: Involved in her disappearance? He is responsible. He and Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are solely responsible for the disappearance of Natalee.

ABRAMS: You are entirely convinced?

TWITTY: They are the suspects.

ABRAMS: You are entirely convinced?

TWITTY: They’re the—yes. They are the suspects that took my daughter from that establishment that no one has seen since. And Joran has admitted to sexual assault that he committed against her. He has placed himself being the last one seen with her, so yes, they are solely responsible in the disappearance of Natalee.

ABRAMS: And he denies ever having sexually assaulted Natalee. In fact, as you know, he is basically saying, you know, I asked her if she wanted to have sex, she was fine with it, I didn’t have a condom with me though in my wallet. I won’t have sex with a girl without a condom. Again, you just don’t believe it?

TWITTY: No, I don’t and I believe the statements that he gave to the police and I believe the statements from the witnesses that were there on the island the very first night that we met Joran when he was admitting the sexual assaults he committed against Natalee while she’s coming in and out of consciousness, Dan. I believe those witnesses. They heard Joran say that and there are statements from Joran that he has given to the police where he has admitted this.

ABRAMS: Would you have wanted to be there for the interview? And I don’t mean to just be an observer. I mean to give him a piece of your mind?

TWITTY: You know, no, not at this point, Dan. Not at this point. What I would really like to do though is you know have some, you know, more interviews from Joran, you know place him under oath. Just really continue to try to get to the bottom of this.

ABRAMS: All right. Beth, this has again you know got to be another difficult day for you to have just seen this extended interview with the man who you’re convinced is responsible for your daughter’s disappearance, and I thank you for taking the time and as always, our thoughts are with you. Thanks a lot.

TWITTY: Thanks, Dan.

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