Diario: Philanthropist and powerful lawyer from America start a national campaign against Aruba

 

FILANTROPO HUNTO CU ABOGADO PODEROSO NA MERCA TA START CU CAMPAÃ’A NACIONAL CONTRA ARUBA

Diabierna, 30 September, 2005

From todays Diario, a translation of the article entitled, Philanthropist and powerful lawyer from America start a national campaign against Aruba. (Hat Tip: Get a Grip)

ORANJESTAD (AAN): The MSNBC show Rita Crosby Live which ran Wednesday spoke with a powerful lawyer and a Philadelphia philanthropist who are going to help to launch a national campaign in America in efforts to boycott Aruba.

Natalee Holloway’s mother, Beth Twitty, was in Philadelphia Wednesday to meet with a renowned philanthropist from that city, Joe Mammana. She also met with a lawyer because she doesn’t want to leave any stone unturned.

From here, Natalee’s family wants to explore any any option they have available to find their daughter. Now, with the help of a powerful lawyer, they will start that process.

The lawyers are Marty Trichon and Elliott Curson. One is a former prosecutor, who is a very ‘hard core’ person and will look at the case from all angles. He works in the style of reason first, and emotion later.


The other was involved in President Reagan’s election campaign in 1980. He is an expert in Public Relations. He will look to form a team to advise what to do in regards to Aruba.

What option are they looking for? Joe Mammana says that personally, he will go against Aruba in all possible forms. He found that people in Aruba haven’t been honest and haven’t been just. Personally, Joe wants to boycott Aruba and will start a national boycott of the island.

He wants for Joran van der Sloot to realize, that the time has come to to wipe that smile off his face and he plans to smack it off. They will not stop until the time that they know where Natalee Holloway is and until the time Beth Twitty can put her head on her pillow at night and sleep peacefully.

.Beth Twitty reacted to what Joran declared to the “A Current Affair” crew recently. She believes that what Joran, Deepak and Satish did with Natalee is “gang rape”, which is a crime.

With a national boycott, they hope to pressure the authorities in Aruba and start to accuse the youngsters here of more crimes. Beth Twitty repeated, that she has asked for millions of people to support her to please not travel to Aruba nor any other Dutch territories until Natalee is returned to her. She is convinced that Aruba has the ability for this to happen!



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  • Comments

    43 Responses to “Diario: Philanthropist and powerful lawyer from America start a national campaign against Aruba”

    1. TexasRick on September 30th, 2005 11:55 pm

      Joe dsure oesn’t need my money, but if there’s an address to make a contribution to this battle, please post it & count me in…

    2. joe b on October 1st, 2005 12:25 am

      I really feel For Natalee’s family and because of the Arubian coverup there will be no closure until Natalee is found. The only hope is the three who were last seen with her will make a slipup and hang themselves. They may night be prosecuted in Aruba but someone will avenge Natalee. All of Joran’s statements about the beaches are lies. Natalee was at the Marriott at Palm Beach. All the other places he said he was with her are further north. They had to pass the Marriott on the way. However instead of taking the shore line road they take RTE 2b north towards Noord. They make a right onto 3A towards Montana. They and others have their way with her at Joran’s house. She either dies there or is killed there. She recognized someone there that had a lot to lose by being there. Two related individual place Natalee in another car and leave Montana. They take the back roads towards Alta Vista pass the closed Gold Mines. I believe her body is down one of the mine fissures.
      Please check this area. The time line for all of this could be accomplished before sunrise and would go unseen. I believe all the other search areas are just diversions away from the real area. Anyone checking for tire tracks? How about fingerprints on the glue side of the duct tape?There was no other mention of whose hair it might have been because it probably was Natalee’s.

    3. december_star on October 1st, 2005 12:38 am

      Me too, i would be happy to help in any way I can.

    4. ann on October 1st, 2005 12:56 am

      I think it is terrible. It’s just like us americans to be so arrogant. It will blow up in her face.

    5. Melinda on October 1st, 2005 1:17 am

      I think that in most cases boycotting would not be the answer. However here I think it is real obvious some dirty deeds went down, and the fact of the matter is the last person seen with her admitted to having sex with her while she was passing out, then what? Left her there on the beach? I mean depending on which story you buy into. The B****** would not be walking the streets or be allowed to travel here his dad helped him out (illegaly) and that is all there is too it.
      The island is small there are rumors of ties to mafia types I am starting to believe this is a lot bigger than we all realize so let’s break it wide open. Not because Natalee was pretty or white but because it is pretty obvious the little F***er knows where she is, or had help disposing of her otherwise there would have been something found by now.

    6. Jami on October 1st, 2005 1:22 am

      I think this may be the turn this case needs, Aruba has not supported this family in the investigation, and if the deny Joe’s entry. Aruba is the ones that it will backfire on. Beth has nothing to loose at this point, she has no support on the island, no answers. Aruba’s arubatruth.com that is trying to save the American tourist dollars, they need to to survive. Why can’t or haven’t they devoted that much effor to solving this case? That’s a small island, someone there knows something, they have to get tough now. GO Beth and Joe, you have my support.

    7. Jim Hanson on October 1st, 2005 1:23 am

      We cannot change what went on with this 3 month investigation in Aruba. Seems alot of us wish we could. But the Aruban authorities, for whatever reason, have claimed there’s not enough evidence to hold these kids any longer. We were all surprised as well when the trio’s travel restrictions were lifted by a judge.

      The numerous speculations and exaggerations (mostly created by the press) have made it extremely difficult for one to really get a handle on the “supposedly real” information that the Aruban police have in their possession.

      Since Katrina hit and these kids were let free, too much unsubstanciated information has flown everywhere. I’m as disappointed as anyone else about this case, but I really have to think that the media, perhaps Beth herself included, have created a certain amount of paranoia about the “facts”. I don’t like to admit it, but I have to … I recorded that little audio snippet of an interview (Deepak, by Skeeter) … and I have to admit, it was edited. His voice patterns were different in two answers, not fluid as they should have been.

      These are the things I’m talking about that are confusing this issue when these little BEEPS are well aware that they are scott free right now. The Aruban police are already aware that Joran lied, they have been for months, but they let him go. He’s admitted he lied in his little interview with Current Affair, and Nancy Grace, a former prosecutor, keeps harping that the Aruban police should re-arrest him for this when they already KNOW he lied. She even knows this herself. She has a personal vendetta against these kids and jumps to many conclusions of her own, which in turn can cloud the judgement of many viewers when it comes to the real facts of this case.

      Don’t get me wrong, I, as well you all, KNOW these kids are responsible in one way or another for her disappearance. But what I’m trying to say here is that the current “heresay” evidence that’s been floating around the media since the kids have been set free seems at times almost ridiculous. The Aruban police force and judicial system have claimed they’ve done their job and have no evidence to charge these three kids. Poor Beth won’t let up (I can’t blame her), the media won’t stop going around in circles reporting useless information that will never have these kids re-arrested and charged with anything. When is this going to end?

      What worries me, is the possiblity of real hard evidence in the future. It’s not nice to say, but I don’t have a lot of faith in the Aruban police force, or the authorites down there. I don’t really know what their policy on this case is right now. What if some hard evidence suddenly appeared down there? Would WE find out about it? Would the evidence “disappear”? I’m trying not to be negative here, but I’ve seen the performance of this investigation and I still have a bitter taste in my mouth about it. I’m not accusing the Aruban authorities of anything. I’m simply WONDERING about them. I’ve heard current reports that the Arubans claim this is still an ongoing investigation. IS it?

      I think my point here is this: since the Three Muskateers have been been freed from custody, uncharged with anything, this case has turned into a media driven fiasco consisting of rude remarks, seemingly edited audio interviews, heresay and more heresay … Joran has and may keep trying to sway the world’s “verdict” about him with interviews. Even the National Enquirer, one of the most unrespected tabloids in the U.S., is claiming that Joran is twisting his accounts in every direction. Dr. Phil has gotten in on the action, demanding a full scale boycott of U.S. travel to Aruba. If this media action doesn’t stop, how will it all affect the Aruban’s feelings on this investigation? No-one but the Aruban authorities have any jurisdiction to investigate this case, and what I’m wondering is this: Will the constant battering from the U.S. media have any effect on the future performance of this case if in fact some evidence DOES come to light. Could the Arubans, for spite, hide this evidence? Let’s face it, I think from what we’ve seen over the summer, the Arubans are upset enough with the ridicule that’s been pointed their way.

      I’m not defending the Arubans in any way, shape or form. I’m also not accusing them of anything. But we have to wonder….is there a solution here? We can’t indict the island of Aruba and charge them with “performing a bad investigation”. We can threaten the island with boycotts. People can threaten the Three Muskateers or Joran’s parents. The only country that can re-arrest these people is Aruba. The ball seems to in their court. So how does the opposing entourage plan their next shot with no options?

      I think at this point, alot of people have to realize that there is a very good possibility that this case may very well go unsolved (Not that it couldn’t have been by now if the proper components were in place in the Aruban police department) and if it does, my God, will the press, (And let’s pray to God, NOT Beth) still be covering this thing?

      I can only think of two more things to say. The more you pressure someone to solve a case like this when they “claim” they don’t have sufficient evidence, the angrier you’re going to make them.

      And Beth I know how you feel, personally that is, and I hope you come to some closure with your tragedy as soon as possible. The majority of the world does as well.

    8. neil on October 1st, 2005 1:30 am

      What have the people of Aruba done to deserve punishment? Do they have any more control over thier government than we here in the US have control over what ours does?

      I bet that there will be a backlash from the government in Aruba and Beth will be even less likely to get justice or ever find out what happened to Natalee.

    9. Nina on October 1st, 2005 6:44 am

      Jim I agree with certain parts of your statement but for you to think Beth will ever stop covering this tells me you do not know how she feels personally. No one should ever want her to stop looking for her daughter until she finds her. I believe I have personally benefited from this story. I had no clue that bartenders in Aruba were drugging women at the request of some customers so that these customers could rape foreign women as a sport. We all have women in our life that we love and this is something that needs to be exposed. If Aruba suffers economically then people will start talking……money talks and bs walks (however rude of a saying, it has been around for years for a reason).

    10. no mystery on October 1st, 2005 6:46 am

      This was a coverup from day one….a well connected kid in a tiny island… imprisoning two men (with an alibi) for 10 days, while letting the last person seen with natalee walk free for 10 days…..withholding information from the FBI, even though cooperation between national is commonplace………..

      This is a smal community, where everyone knows eachother,,,,,,,arubans know what happened

      LETS BOYCOTT Them NOW and let those jerks starve

    11. Prima on October 1st, 2005 7:30 am

      When Natalee first went missing, I did not support a boycott of Aruba. I told all my friends and family who were well aware of my many trips to the island that the island was very safe and the Aruban police will get to the bottom of this and justice will be served. I defended Aruba to every person that would “bad mouth” such a beautiful island and people.
      After following this investigation very closely for all these months, I have come to the conclusion that I shall not visit Aruba or any other Dutch territory again until Natalee is returned to her family and her country. I will discourage all of my friends, family and other acquaintances from traveling to Aruba or any Dutch terrotiries. My friend is dumping her time share in St. Maarten (Dutch side).
      The Dutch in Aruba (police, judges and government officials) have held up for their own and so will the American traveling public in support of one of our American citizens who is nowhere to be found since her trip to Aruba. The prime “suspects” (that is what Joran, Satish and Depak are according to Aruba) are set free to roam from country to country without restrictions, without surveillance, among law abiding decent human beings. The Aruba government and police little help in the search for Natalee, most searches privately funded. They just go through the motions and put out a press release to make it look like they are putting forth an effort.
      I am saddened that I shall not again travel to Aruba, but the sacrifice will be well worth it if it brings justice for Natalee and her family.

    12. nelson on October 1st, 2005 7:36 am

      The legal system has been working for years and works well, people just gonna have to accept it, there is no other way. If I travel to Timbuktu I have to accept their rules and regulations I cannot imposse my ways of my country on them. This is an isolated case which unfortunatly happened in Aruba, if the L/E did some mistakes with the investigation maybe, but in which country are they PERFECT!!! not even here in the US. Also people have to understand how the legal system works down there, if you have no clue dont start accusing like the media did. The government there has no authority over the law, these people are appointed by the Queen of Netherlands and are HIGLY respectable people, so the ones who are crying cover-up and corruption please get some more information before you start sounding like Nancy Grace.

      Again if this renegade person will be allowed entry to Aruba, again shows how Americans like to imposse on others instead of giving respect. You have to give respect to get respect, allready in the eye of the world US is at the bottom of the list.
      Remember people Rome did not last forever, during those years yes it did, nowadays things run faster. The world is allready changing, superpowers will be soon in other hands, then what will America do??

    13. Dave on October 1st, 2005 7:58 am

      I dont think anyone wants Nat to be missing
      However
      This is pure baloney and disgusting
      How would all you people who think this is so good
      be reacting if this all happened here in the usa and the missing
      person was from another country
      Im sure then that the front page and posting would be filled with rantings about
      ungreatful ignorant foriegn people coming to our country
      The same or worse happens here every day
      But Beth doping this and people supporting this type of justice is disgusting IMO and sets a horrible precedent.
      Is this how you all advocate we solve our crimes also….Once LE doesnt give us the results we might want or expect do we now just take ANYTHING and EVERYTHING into our own hands. Hire some ex convvict and go for our own justice? Or is this just SPECIAL rules for Beth? Where does it stop and just what crosses the line that makes it ok to do this once we arent satisfied with how LE investigates a crime

      The more she does this the less any MSM will put her on TV as no MSM would take a chance to be associated with or promote this kind of justice at all.

    14. John Staton on October 1st, 2005 8:34 am

      What have the people of Aruba done? Condoned the protection of the P.I.M.P.S. gang of sexual predators. They know all about them. They advertise their island as the place where they get the young women drunk on free booze and then all you predators can come and get them. What did the people of Germany do to deserve being bombed during WW2? About the same. Count me in and a note to the financial institutions with which I do business, if you do business with Aruba I move my wealth.

    15. Martin on October 1st, 2005 8:57 am

      Death to Aruba

    16. Jim on October 1st, 2005 9:13 am

      I believe Jim Hanson summed up about 95% how I feel. Long-winded, but a good read.

      Personally, I don’t think this is completely about trying to get Natalee back. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure that with every breath Ms. Twitty takes it is ultimately about finding Natalee and/or putting her and this whole nightmare to rest.

      But, I am inclined to believe, based on the lack of evidence (regardless of whose fault), that this is more of an act of personal revenge against the Aruban government, because of some alleged “conspiracy” (speculation) and for conducting their investigation, as well as their own governing laws, in such a radical contradiction to which any given US citizen is acustomed.

      That being said, I can’t blame her. As a parent of 2, I would have already been a lot more extreme and irrational than Ms. Twitty has been. I give her props for remaining so calm and collected during this whole ordeal.

      I hope these 2 lawyers really do know what they’re doing and that all parties involved chose their next moves wisely. Otherwise, this could turn out even worse for Beth by causing the Aruban authorities to completely dismiss and cover up any new evidence. For her sake, I hope that doesn’t happen.

      **Btw, not far off topic at all, but does anyone else find it rather amusing that SM’s Google Ads are promoting the hell out of Aruba? No harm intended, here. Just thought it was ironic. Keep up the good work, monkeys.

    17. Peapod on October 1st, 2005 9:25 am

      SO WHAT IF IT MAKES THEM MAD.

    18. Pat on October 1st, 2005 9:42 am

      Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but comments like “death to Aruba” only fan the flames of irrational thinking and further divide two counties of people who need to be working together to solve this crime.

      To the Aruban people:
      We only want justice to be done for Natalee and her family. Please don’t allow some corrupt politicians and three kids to ruin your island! Put them all in jail where they belong from Joran to his father and associates who are covering this up. It may require quite a clean sweep to get them all. We don’t hate you, just what your “justice deparment” (a term used loosely) is doing.

    19. bizman on October 1st, 2005 9:45 am

      This is the best news so far.A person who is willingly to look at reason first and look at all angles and look at emotion when it makes sense to look at it.Finally Beth has hired someone who may get to the bottom of this.It will take an approach of looking at all angles whereever those angles exists.I am sure that the lawyer will look into every possibility if he is worth his fee.

      Beth may need to brace herself for the results of an investigation that is hopefully going to look at all angles.All of the scenarios that have been presented so far and endorsed by the news channels for ratings will have to take a backseat to any real investigation from this point forward.I hope that this lawyer will eliminate every one the kids and chaperones that were on the trip and everyone of them should willingly line up for polygraphs and extensive interrogations to allow themsleves to be eliminated as potential suspects in the case.At least then it can be officially announced that the MB people who were on the trip have othing to hide as has been specualted about for months.Then and only then can the investigation move forward through the process of elimination.

      I applaud Beth for keeping Natalee in the spotlight but it is high time that the shenanigans that have been presented as proof to stop and for the media frenzy to stop hindering this case .There will be plenty of time for Beth to make the media circuit and for ratings to be had after the case is solved.

      It is obvious that there is zero proof of what happened to Natalee but speculations have taken over this case and that is a hinderance at the very least.

      No more story changing from either side should matter.What ha sbeen presented so far simply has muddied the waters so to speak.

      How can Beth now say that the toothbrush did not belong to Natalee when early on she never refuted that it was Natalee’s toothbrush.In fact it was said that it was probably Jug’s DNA on the toothbrush in question.That was the time to say that the toothbrush did not belong to Natalee not months later.That does not make her appear to be very informed about things.She has to stop changing the details when questions like that come up.People who have supported her are listening to her every word and she may very well become her own worst enemy in retaining some of support that she has garnered.

      Anyways good luck to the new attorney,cause he sure will need it.

    20. Gabriel Leo on October 1st, 2005 9:46 am

      death to martin ;)

    21. lisa on October 1st, 2005 10:06 am

      Aruba had their chance to put these three rapists and murderers away in jail for the rest of their lives. They didnt. Now we have our right, as consumers, to spend our money elsewhere. Why would I visit a country that cannot show me that I will be safe? If I am harmed in their country will the criminals be prosecuted? Aruba has exposed their incompetence in police work and worse, has shown the world that their Judicial system is corrupt. They will get what they deserve. Boycott Aruba!!!

    22. dennisintn on October 1st, 2005 12:35 pm

      how about a petition from the people of aruba to the queen of the netherlands calling for a complete top to bottom investigation of the judicial and le departments of aruba.

      i think what started out as one or two individuals trying to help a fellow bureaucrat protect his son ballooned into the situation we have today. nothing short of the queen’s help and authority is going to determine the extent of the cover-up. and what happened to nataalee.

      all of the aruban population is being held hostage and at risk because of 4 or 5 individuals.

      natalee was a good girl who deserved better than what she got from aruba. beth deserves to be able to take her home.

    23. Linda in L.A. on October 1st, 2005 2:37 pm

      I don’t believe Beth has enough of a reserve of energy or emotion to worry about only taking revenge on Aruba. I think whatever she has been doing…right or wrong…is soley…at least in her opinion…what she needs to do to find Natalee.

      As far as all of the kids and chaperones on the trip being given a lie detector test…I think thats fine…but I wonder then why its ok for Joran, Deepak and Satish to refuse to take one. As far as I know (and I could be wrong) I’ve never heard anything other than speculation to implicate any of the classmates. Having said that…I think it could prove worthwhile…but first things first. Give the test to the three accused…and then move on to the others.

    24. Pat on October 1st, 2005 2:55 pm

      Nelson:
      Respect is something you earn by actions that others deem to be appropriate to the situation at hand – it is not something someone else can do for you, or give if it is not warranted. There are many here in the US that feel our foreign policy sometimes goes too far, but our desire is to spread freedom to people who are oppressed. If the US had continued its policy of isolationism last century the world would be a different place today. Having said that, it isn’t our place to be the policeman of the world, but rather to support those who struggle for freedom and justice. We want to support you, if your people want that for themselves. If you don’t want that, just give us Natalee back and tell us to not come back (to spend our money).

      Dave:
      Where does it stop? For a parent, missing a child it NEVER stops – the agony of not knowing what happened, is she still alive somewhere, or dead? Beth gets up to that every day – what is she supposed to do, go home and bake cookies like nothing has happened? I would fight tooth and nail for my kids. Even Paul VDS said he would do ANYTHING for his son – and I beleive he did.

    25. Eden on October 1st, 2005 3:55 pm

      I don’t think the people of Aruba are ‘bad people’.. however, the law officials are another story.

      I don’t think they expected this to go this far when they chose to cover up for Van Der Sloot… and to allow him to be set FREE to relocate to Holland is amazing!
      They could have held him n rape charges.. (at least)… he admitted many times they did have sex.. but now he’s saying he didn’t..?
      ..Sounds like “daddy” told him to deny that to avoid a rape charge.

      The whole situation stinks!
      It’s even more disgusting that Deepak had the balls to state she dressed and spoke like a slut!

      I feel bad for the Aruban people, (general).. but if they want to be mad at anyone, they should be pissed at the 3 boys for putting them in this mess to begin w/..!

    26. Jim Hanson on October 1st, 2005 4:32 pm

      By law, a lie detector test cannot be forced on an individual. Also, lie detector results are not admissable in court.

    27. cheryl on October 1st, 2005 4:40 pm

      sorry you can count me out of this one you americans are on your own on this boycott frenzy and i byself will be going back in march

    28. Linda in L.A. on October 1st, 2005 6:07 pm

      Yahooooooo Pat!!! Well said.

    29. bizman on October 1st, 2005 7:04 pm

      Linda,
      Since polygraph tests are so widely acceptable as a tool of investigation here in the states it should be no problem for any of the classmates and chaperones to submit to a polygraph.Unfortunately this is not a you go first scenario where the three suspects go first and then go from there.

      The reality is polygraphs have never been accepted in a lot of other countries as a tool and I for one dont think they are what they are built up to be.I dont think a polygraphg does anything but fuel the investigators suspicions and as we all know investigators have been known to be wrong about their suspicions.A person is not guilty simply because they refuse to submit to a polygraph.But since the tool is so sacred in some circles they may as well us eit in Mountain Brook.

      As far as Joran or the Kalpoe’s submitting to a polygraph,forget about it that will never happen but if the TJ Ward’s and other believers in the world want to crow about the accuracy of such devices as polygraphs and voice pattern machines then they could elminate the good folk from Mountain Brook in no time at all.As far as the three suspects are concerned nothing short of hard evidence will be enough.In fact even if someone from Mountain Brook were to fail of these tests it would not prove anything but simply point in their direction and then nothing more would come out of it unless whoever failed such a test were interrogated for as long Joran was.

      But in the meantime the polygraphs should be administered to the good folk from Mountain Brook just to eliminate any element of suspicion that may exist there or by this time with college classes already having started there may be a little bit of traveling involve dto test some of the students.But Natalee is worth it so it should be done.

    30. Prima on October 1st, 2005 7:13 pm

      to Cheryl: Enjoy your trip to Aruba in March and heaven forbid should something happen to you while you are there, don’t count on the Aruban govt for help, the Aruban police to solve the crime, or the Aruban justice system to punish the perps. If you go back, you are on your own.
      I’ll spend my American greenbacks somewhere else amd not support a corrupt government and “so called” justice system. Not until Natalee is returned will I return to Aruba or any other Dutch territory and neither will any of my family or friends.

    31. bizman on October 1st, 2005 7:31 pm

      sorry about the multiple post

    32. Mike on October 1st, 2005 7:43 pm

      Cheryl,
      I hope you have a good time and maybe you will be lucky enough to meet some of Joran’s cousins or some of his gang friends for a night of fun. Of course that could be what you are hoping for.

    33. Nina on October 1st, 2005 7:53 pm

      Cheryl,
      Make sure not to drink anything from a restaurant or bar, you may be drugged. Make sure not to wear a bathing suit, you may be viewed as a slut. Make sure you don’t talk to strangers, you may be acting like a slut. Make sure you don’t take a taxi, it may be driven by a sexual predator. Other than that, enjoy Aruba and it’s beautiful beaches.

    34. dennisintn on October 1st, 2005 7:57 pm

      pat, wish i had said that. when you read all the nasty things aruban papers and blogs have said about natalee and beth, it makes you wonder if all american women are thought of that way. especially if they disappear like natalee.

      cheryl, have fun, and don’t drink anything you don’t open yourself, and keep you hand on top of your container until you’re finished with it.

      linda, i like your idea about polygraphs for everyone. i’m afraid we’ll all be dead of old age before you get a kalpoe or vds hooked up to one. or the retired police chief either.

    35. Katsuey on October 1st, 2005 8:58 pm

      I’m amazed to read comments indicating that most of the evidence in the Natalee Holloway cas is pure speculation! No, most of it is words out of Joran’s own mouth. On June 13th he admitted to having sex with Natalee, he admitted she was coming in and out of consciousness – hence the rape charge which Aruba has failed to file. Next, he also stated that something “bad” had happened. He also said he though Deepak had raped and killed her. We thought maybe that was just Joran trying to blame things on someone else.

      But we follow that with Deepak admitting to Holloway Twitty’s investigator that he, his brother and Joran all had sex with her. Some poster claims the tape was doctored. If that’s true, we surely will soon see a suit by Deepak, right? But it won’t happen. His admission was very congruent with Joran’s previous stories, and with Deepak’s constantly referring to Natalee as loose and a b*tch and other very negative words.

      Next we have A Current Affair’s interview with Joran. Joran denies having sex with Natalee. Yet just a week later we have a National Enquirer story of Joran telling a fellow business student that he did have sex with Natalee.

      We are not wanting a boycott of Aruba because an American Teen was killed there by three wayward, lying boys whose parents have helped cover up for them. We want a boycott because the things that CAN be proven in this case and which ARE prosecutable have been ignored. 3 boys who can’t keep their stories straight can’t be that hard to break. And according to Beth Holloway Twitty, they were breaking and beginning to point fingers at each other when they were released. We believe this because it fits with what we see now and with the stories Joran and Deepak have recently told.

      We want Aruba boycotted because their lead investigator on the case originally was none other than Joran’s God Father. So please don’t go off on how there’s all this speculation and what a good job Aruba is doing and all about how Aruba law is the name of the game. Even in Aruba this was a conflict of interest and WRONG. From the outset Aruba has shown the greatest interest in their tourism trade from Americans – so that’s the one way we may get them to finally do the right thing. Return Natalee to her parents and put these rapists and at least on killer in jail where they belong.

    36. Gabriel Leo on October 1st, 2005 10:11 pm

      Mike why are you generalizing? I find you very childish to make a statement like that.

    37. Anooch18 on October 2nd, 2005 1:45 am

      I have no connection to this family. But I thank any and all people in a position of power, that can and will jump up to help this poor woman from being pushed around anymore. This girl is a human being. Period. What makes the Aruban Authorities think that this family deserves to be treated like anything less. This was never an issue of
      Americans vs Arubans. It was and is about a human life. One has never been more important than the other. Atleast not until THEY made it that way.

    38. ewout van walbeek on October 2nd, 2005 3:53 am

      Who the hell is Joe Mammana? Joe talks like a tuff guy who want to start a war. Maybe Joe should have a little think because that is a war he will not finish!!! Joe needs to realize that Aruba is not Holland and that every action will create a reaction and it maybe not be the re action Joe wants. What did little joe say: Hell is comming to Aruba? Joe Joe, watch out what you are saying cause you might get what you ask for.

    39. Linda in L.A. on October 2nd, 2005 8:44 pm

      Hi dennisintn…thanks for the compliment about polygraphs…but wasn’t my idea…was bizman’s idea. I was only saying…if he feels all of the kids on the trip should be tested…we should first start with the 3 suspects. After that…if necessary…go ahead and test em.

    40. Hyscience on October 2nd, 2005 11:57 pm

      HarryTho Sunday Night Natalee Holloway Commentary and Update

      A weekend catch-up on Natalee commentary, with points to new posts.

    41. Susan Smith on October 3rd, 2005 12:18 am

      I can not believe the attitude of you Americans. You give yourselves a bad name because of it and you wonder why?? Why should the entire island of Aruba suffer because of one person?? I do feel for the holloway/Twitty family but you people are taking this whole thing way of course.
      It is my understanding that in your country it is “innocent until proven guilty” as it is in other countries. A person can not be tried and convicted and sent to prison “on feelings and guesses” There has to be evidence. How can you condem and say a government is corrupt just because they cannot prove the guilt of someone?? Is America so perfect???? I think not. How many unsolved and cold are there in your country???? MANY!!!!!!!! How many countries do you hear saying boycott America when one of their citizens is murdered over there and the case is not solved or the guilty party goes free???????? None that I have ever heard off.
      It is sad to say, but this case might never get solved so I guess in the minds of Americans Arubians and their country will have to suffer for ever.
      I feel sorry for you people and I am disgusted by your attitude. You call yourselves a christian nation but you are not.
      I am sure I will get some nasty comments but I could care less. I have never been to your country and never plan to but I have suffered the verbal attacks from some of you who have visited my country. But I’m sure none of you would care anyway as you feel that you are all better than everyone else in this world.
      You should check from whence you came though. The true Ameracans are the red indians and look what you people did to them.
      I will pray for Natalee and her family and for you “Americans” as I do believe in God’s grace and maybe one day it will shine upon you as a nation.

    42. Mike on October 3rd, 2005 12:35 am

      Leo,
      I am sorry that you find the truth childish. If the shoe fits…….

    43. Linda - L.A. on October 3rd, 2005 1:38 pm

      Susan…yes US does feel you are innocent until proven guilty but when officials botch a case from the beginning making it next to impossible to find evidence…they leave themselves open to criticism. As for what we did to the American Indians…I’m amazed when people bring up history like that in this case. Do we need to go back to Adam and Eve here? Every country has history they are not proud of…does that mean we should never fight for our rights now???

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