Natalee Holloway Evening Updates


From the Iowa Channel, Texas Crews Comb Aruba In Hunt For Missing Teen
Court Hearing Delayed Until Sunday

Volunteer rescuers from Texas on Saturday combed Aruba in the latest search for a U.S. teenager from Alabama who disappeared almost a month ago.

Texas EquuSearch is using sniffer dogs on land and sonar in the ocean. The searchers are said to be focusing on “five or six areas of interest” on land.

Also, Court Hearing Delayed Until Sunday.

Also Saturday, the lawyer for one of two Surinamese brothers being held in connection with Holloway’s disappearance confirmed that his client admitted lying to police when he told them that he and his brother and their Dutch friend dropped Holloway off alone at her hotel, the Holiday Inn, the night she disappeared.

The man now claims that he and his brother dropped Holloway and 17-year-old Joran van der Sloot off together at the Marriott hotel and then went home.

Joran’s mother told the AP last week that he, too, had changed his story, acknowledging now that he and Natalee were alone together at a beach near the Marriott, but she said he insists he left her there and did not hurt her.

A court hearing for the Surinamese brothers, Kalpoes, van der Sloot and van der Sloot’s father, Paul van der Sloot, a high-ranking justice official in Aruba, was postponed Saturday until Sunday because the judge was unable to make it to Aruba on Saturday from nearby Curacao.

The judge must decide whether there is sufficient cause to continue holding the four. Also in custody is a 26-year-old party boat disc jockey.

Posted June 25, 2005 by
Natalee Holloway | 98 comments

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    98 Responses to “Natalee Holloway Evening Updates”

    1. S on June 25th, 2005 11:56 pm

      The single most important piece of evidence is always the body. They have no other evidence, so far i am aware, to bring ANYONE to trial. By now, Natalie is probably fish food. From this point on, i bet all we’re going to see is more hysteria because a rich attractive barbie doll blonde with a 4 point did a very stupid thing. I think sometimes people who feel special think that nothing will ever happen to them. But yet, American LOVES when this sort of think happens because their’s lots and lots of money to be made…. millions folks… millions. People go missing all the time, but why do you think those children and adolescents don’t make it to CNN, Fox, NBS, MSN, let alone Aruiba.. Why don’t other missing kids get all of southern America on their knees pray to their very special invisible man, who’s of course better than anybody else’s ionvisible man.

    2. S on June 26th, 2005 12:19 am

      Addendum: 2,100 reports of missing adolescents come into the FBI, per DAY. Again, it’s truly unfair what happens to blondes in America.

    3. JC in San Diego on June 26th, 2005 12:24 am

      I think what America is so obsessed about is that this crime looks like the “perfect crime”. A young boy has apparently left no trace of any evidence. It appears to be too perfect to be true. where is the body? I have a strong feeling it is on land somewhere, and that these Equus people will find it (hopefully). Of course, if NH is still alive, that would be wonderful. But overly optimistic after a month has gone by. I think they probably will find evidence in the cars they seized.

    4. S on June 26th, 2005 12:37 am

      Even if they found blood, Natalie’s hair, Joran’s semen, her wallet, the gum she was chewing, etc. in the truck, that STILL would not be enough evidence to take someone to trial. There are only 2 possibilities which might lead to a conviction, either they find the body, or an individual confesses. I agree with you, it could turn out to be the perfect crime!

    5. Rebecca on June 26th, 2005 12:37 am

      @ S

      … what the heck? What is wrong with you? NO ONE loves when this type of thing happens unless they are heartless. DO NOT say what we americans believe and dont believe and think and dont think. Because i can think for myself and i dont agree with anything you just said, you jackass. Have some COMPASION for Natalee and her family and what they are going through and dont be disrespectful, and NO ONE is disrespecting your religon or your beliefs so BACK OFF of mine. I dont think this blog was built for american and christian trashing.. but im SURE you can find one out there.. buzz off and let us talk about whats important.

    6. Concerned on June 26th, 2005 12:38 am

      Children- missing, abused, neglected or killed- get the world’s attention., not just America’s. I remember agonizing over the tragic stories from the UK, from Africa, Saudi Arabia and the horrors of the children of the December tsunami. I was raised to care for the children from third world countries and share the responsibilites for underpriveleged and disadvantaged peoples. I am an American, blessed with many things especially the concern for others. I am not alone.

    7. Concerned on June 26th, 2005 12:50 am

      One blogger mentioned the Sword of Damocles referring to the sword about to fall. The myth says that Damocles envied a wealthy and powerful king. When he traded places with the king, and enjoyed the privileged life, he noticed a never-moving sword over his head. Suddenly, the grass wasn’t greener. If the sword is about to fall, will it fall on Joran?

    8. Veritas on June 26th, 2005 1:06 am

      S is a moron

    9. Lily on June 26th, 2005 1:07 am

      I found the lyrics to this song by Tracy Lawernce thought I would post it here for Natalee and her family. It brought tears to my eyes listening to it.

      He was sitting’ there, his brush in hand
      Painting’ waves as they danced, upon the sand
      With every stroke, he brought to life
      The deep blue of the ocean, against the morning’ sky
      I asked him if he only painted ocean scenes
      He said for twenty dollars, I’ll paint you anything

      Could you Paint Me A Birmingham
      Make it look just the way I planned
      A little house on the edge of town
      Porch going’ all the way around
      Put her there in the front yard swing
      Cotton dress make it, early spring
      For a while she’ll be, mine again
      If you can Paint Me A Birmingham

      He looked at me, with knowing eyes
      Then took a canvas from a bag there by his side
      Picked up a brush, and said to me
      Son just where in this picture would you like to be
      And I said if there’s any way you can
      Could you paint me back into her arms again?

      Could you Paint Me A Birmingham
      Make it look just the way I planned
      A little house on the edge of town
      Porch going’ all the way around
      Put her there in the front yard swing
      Cotton dress make it, early spring
      For a while she’ll be, mine again
      If you can Paint Me A Birmingham

      Paint Me A Birmingham
      Make it look just the way I planned
      A little house on the edge of town
      Porch going’ all the way around
      Put her there in the front yard swing
      Cotton dress make it, early spring
      For a while she’ll be, mine again
      If you can Paint Me A Birmingham

      Oh paint me a Birmingham

    10. LA0123 on June 26th, 2005 1:14 am

      Did anyone else find it to be in bad taste that Haraldo, chose to use his hour on tv Saturday night to talk about his boating race with that family sitting right there?

    11. richandfamous on June 26th, 2005 1:17 am

      Oh paint me a Birmingham…..

      well, now you’ve gone and done it….sniff


    12. richandfamous on June 26th, 2005 1:20 am

      Is this the quiet before the storm or is everyone losing interest?
      I hope this new search finds her.

    13. Concerned on June 26th, 2005 1:24 am

      Very appropriate, Lily.
      I am watching Geraldo’s replay; nothing new so far.

    14. Lily on June 26th, 2005 1:25 am

      Everyone pls read the song lyrics and let me know what you think thanks……………………

    15. brenda on June 26th, 2005 2:55 am

      I find it tragic that NATALEE is missing. this is not amusement it is a tragedy. I stay alert to these things because it’s true you really are on your own in this world and we rely on others and try to be trusting and kind and there you have it something bad happens to take your security away and your trusting nature and you realize this is not a perfect world there is much sickness in the world there is no paradise free from evil or harm.

    16. Concerned on June 26th, 2005 3:23 am

      I agree Brenda. This is not heaven; however, we try our best to make it better.
      What has happened to Natalee is symptomatic.
      Her trust and naivety were abused. Her life and rights were not valued. This affects us all.
      She is everyone’s and anyone’s child, sister, friend or acquaintance.

    17. Concerned on June 26th, 2005 3:26 am

      Joran symbolizes an international disdain for Americans (US) and disrespect for women through his (probable) violence towards Natalee.

    18. gare du nord on June 26th, 2005 4:04 am

      i don’t think there was any violence involved. imho she was drunk and probably used drugs. this is not proven, there is no body.

    19. Houdini on June 26th, 2005 7:05 am

      To all of you Dutch/Aruban negative posters. Your disdain for anything American corrupts your logic. This always amazes me how you can espouse America’s “short-comings”, (and we have them) but then leap at the chance to come here. There is but one “victim” in this incident —– and it’s NATALEE HOLLOWAY. Whether the perpatrator or perpatrators are charged is irrelevant. They will pay!!!!!!!

    20. Yolande on June 26th, 2005 7:23 am

      Houdini, I’m surprised about the amount of people who judge here while there are little facts so far. Also, many Americans think the Aruban investigation stinks. I guess you guys think in America things are better? Crime rate in your country is very high!
      Sure I dont like Bush, hes a threat for world peace. But I wouldnt take that out on a missing girl. I dont understand and criticize the way Americans react on this missing and how they judge without having any facts. Feels like you would have hung Joran on the highest tree already, without giving him a fair trial.

    21. Tony on June 26th, 2005 7:25 am

      Houdini, in the Netherlands and Aruba people get very upset with Americans that expect that everything will go the way they want. And I mean especially the media, they should not be speculating wat accually happend while it is still being investigated.
      It’s very tragic incident but the suspects are innocent untill proven guilty, try to keep that in mind.

    22. This Goes to 11 on June 26th, 2005 7:45 am

      What’s the morning news Shock??

    23. This Goes to 11 on June 26th, 2005 7:49 am

      What’s the morning news Shock??

    24. san on June 26th, 2005 8:11 am

      Why should Joran get a fair trial when the investigation head up by Attorney General Caren Janssen tained the investigation from the beginning. She knew what she had to do to cover things up from the start. She is apparently good friends with the father. He made the appropriate phone calls and she did what she had to do by giving them enough time so they could clean things up and now she is making it seem like she is on top of things when it is too late. She states in an interview they her reasons were tatical. They were only tatical to benefit the person who committed the crime. In the end they will come up with nothing and Joran will go free. Hopefully the searh team will come up with something to put everything to rest. If Joran had done this to a young girl from Aruba he would have definately gotten away with this crime and he would have went along his merry way. I wouldn’t want this kid and his friends roaming the streets when I knew he is capable of committing a crime like this. You watch and see once this case is over and he is set free he will leave the island of Aruba to live somewhere else. The parents will say there was too much pressure on him so it would be best for him to make a fresh start somewhere else. Yeah just dump him on someone elses lap.

    25. MominTN on June 26th, 2005 8:31 am

      That is such a lovely song! Thanks for posting it!

    26. TheGreatPretender on June 26th, 2005 8:38 am

      It was going to be a cover-up but fast work by Hooties Mom changed the game plan….
      Too many eyes looking in the looking glass had to arrange another story………….

      S…..You talk like a person who has their head stuck up their ASS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      The Dutch are Slimeballs……….
      Their National Pastime is Sex with Dogs ……………………….

    27. Eddie on June 26th, 2005 8:39 am

      If the Aruba police cannot solve this crime and let those boys go,
      I feel confident that Natalles family will be helped by American homeboys.

      These 5 suspects released will have no damn protection, especially in Aruba
      as we have seen. American vigiliantes will get the truth out.
      Looking forward to it. They have no where to run.

    28. TheGreatPretender on June 26th, 2005 8:41 am

      Eddie too many Charles Bronson Movies

    29. Lori on June 26th, 2005 8:41 am

      wow, that song…how heart-wrenching. I say, who knows how far the father’s involvement is. Who knows who ‘owed’ him. Who knows who he has threatened and/or why. Who is he protecting? His son? Himself? Don’t think he’d go to great lengths to protect the others – instead, he’d be pointing fingers. Somehow the gambling and/or drugs keep gnawing at me and there is something bigger here. I agree the investigation was botched from the beginning. They need a new prosecuting atty and a new judge for sure. All this Aruba/America bashing really stinks. Put the effort of the blame game into trying to figure it out. Shame, shame.

    30. TheGreatPretender on June 26th, 2005 8:43 am

      Not Aruba bashing …………………………….Dutch bashing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    31. Eddie on June 26th, 2005 8:43 am

      To TheGreatPretender,
      This is the real world, not a damn movie.

    32. TheGreatPretender on June 26th, 2005 8:45 am

      Give Aruba back to the Arubans !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Colonization is a thing of the PAST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    33. Lori on June 26th, 2005 8:46 am

      whichever….it still stinks from both sides. I wonder how Natalee would feel about it. The blame needs to be on those involved and only those pathetic people.

    34. TheGreatPretender on June 26th, 2005 8:46 am

      Eddie go read KILL magazine…………………………….

      Lots of guns for hire …………….

    35. TheGreatPretender on June 26th, 2005 8:47 am

      I bet Natalee wishes the Class Trip was in Hawaii……………………..

    36. Eddie on June 26th, 2005 8:47 am

      Unfortunately, Aruba is not capabale of defending themselves.
      A South American country would surely stake claim to Aruba.

    37. Eddie on June 26th, 2005 8:50 am

      To TheGreatPretender- You must be a local yokle from Aruba.
      You ain’t seen the real world. Justice will prevail.

    38. Eddie on June 26th, 2005 8:51 am

      TheGreatPretender – Go back to your comic books.

    39. TheGreatPretender on June 26th, 2005 8:54 am

      Eddie………..NO I DONT SCUBA IN ARUBA ……………………………

      No I am a Local Yokle as you put it from Hawaii……………………………

    40. Eddie on June 26th, 2005 8:56 am

      TheGreatPretender – Same difference. A sheltered individual.

    41. TheGreatPretender on June 26th, 2005 8:56 am

      Eddie Me Boy …………………

      We all want to see the Vamder Sluts Hang………………

      Maybe we can all see it happen at

    42. Maya99 on June 26th, 2005 8:58 am

      Morning, all. Did the judge from Caracao make the flight to Aruba today?

    43. TheGreatPretender on June 26th, 2005 8:58 am

      Eddie you must read your Geography books a little better……………………

    44. TheGreatPretender on June 26th, 2005 8:59 am

      Let me call the Airline for you …………………..

    45. TheGreatPretender on June 26th, 2005 9:01 am

      Eddie are you a Redneck ???????????????????????????

    46. TheGreatPretender on June 26th, 2005 9:03 am

      Jack Bauer should interrogate the Vander Sluts…………………

    47. san on June 26th, 2005 9:06 am

      It is only certain people within the justice system that needs to be looked at carefully. I hope to god that they do get this kid and if it wasn’t for the Holloway and Twitty family with their determination for their pursuit of justice and finding out what happend to thier daughter has kept so much attention on this crime. Using the media has worked to their benefit because they are all over this case. We are all outraged what has happened to this young girl. Did anyone see when they interview the vander sloot mother and she keeps referring to her son only as a boy and his accomlisces as men. She definately knows something and Mr. Twitty said it right last night that she should also be brought in for questionning. If he is such a “boy” why is he gambling and drinking all the time like the big “MEN” do. He was even at the casino gambling with his father. What kind of parent is he. He is suppose to be this upstanding guy in the judicial system and you are taking your son with you to gamble. The father is a slime ball also.

    48. Eddie on June 26th, 2005 9:07 am

      TheGreatPretender – Yes and proud of it, boy or girl or whatever you are.
      Born and bread in Lousiania with a banjo on my knee.
      I prudly wave a big confederate flag from my roof top.
      Now I am out of here. Let’s let the news come through.

      God Bless Natallee and her family.

    49. Lori on June 26th, 2005 9:11 am

      yes, judge is at courthouse I just heard. Satish’s lawyer thinks Satish will be free today. Grrrrrr

    50. Lori on June 26th, 2005 9:13 am

      same question keeps arising….enough evidence to hold these 5? Croes involvement very low key, no?

    51. Lori on June 26th, 2005 9:15 am

      still saying drugs/gambling somehow involved. Why is pappa van der slut gambling with his son? What is gambling age? Sounds like a problem to me.

    52. san on June 26th, 2005 9:19 am

      Croes involvment could be after the fact. Meaning he was brought in to clean up the evidence. He has access to the boat. Or he could have been the drug supplier for van der sloot. Either way did you notice how everything started to roll after they arrested Croes. Do I hear a little bird starting to sing.

    53. Zeberdee on June 26th, 2005 9:21 am

      If you point fingers at others, threaten to boycott, and slander expect the same back.

      Why does Fox keep saying “with all the WORLD wide attention” and “world wide pressure” – the case has virtually no media outside the US!

      Why do the FOX commentators seem to think the US police, the FBI or anyone American could be doing a better investigative job – when did any US police department, the FBI or government ever do anything competently?

      Why is it OK for FOX commentators to repeatedly lead Jug Twitty into a conversation where he can slander anyone he wishes?

      Why does Jug Twiity keep inferring Joran must be very bad because he was at the casino and a bar and drank when his daughter who is only weeks older than Joran was in the same places doing the same? Joran is only a few weeks under age in Aruba to gamble and drink – the teens in the schools group are 3 years under US legal age to drink and gamble.

      Why is Joran a bad guy for breaking his countries law by a few weeks but it’s OK for US kids to use local laws to do things they can’t at home – why do they think the US has higher legal age age – why do their parents think it’s OK to drink and gamble when 18 as-long as your outside the US?

      If there are eventually no convictions in this case the Holloway’s and Twitty’s could bring a civil case in the US. However civil courts can assess joint responsibility or contributory negligence.
      Remember … if you point fingers – so be nice and keep your blame game thoughts and slanderous ideas to yourself – it’s called being polite. The Dutch are rather good at it.

    54. Maya99 on June 26th, 2005 9:23 am

      I think the gambling age is the same as the drinking age, 18. VDS, Jr., is one year shy on both.

    55. san on June 26th, 2005 9:25 am

      What time does the sun start to come up in Aruba?

    56. Kristin-in-SC on June 26th, 2005 9:25 am

      Well it is morning so where is the news that Shock was talking about??

    57. Kristin-in-SC on June 26th, 2005 9:28 am

      San, according to, around 6:17am

    58. TheGreatPretender on June 26th, 2005 9:31 am

      Go Gamecocks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    59. san on June 26th, 2005 9:31 am

      Just wanted to piece together how much night time they had to cover things up. Add that with the 10 days they had it was enought time.

    60. Houdini on June 26th, 2005 9:32 am

      Gare-Du-Nord, Yolande – I make no speculations but react to your postings. The point is that Natalee could be hungarian and I would want the “convicted” perpetrators punished. No one deserves this to happen to them.

    61. Maya99 on June 26th, 2005 9:34 am

      All are in the corthouse via side door except Croes.(Fox News)

    62. san on June 26th, 2005 9:37 am

      If anyone remembers the Robert Chambers crime in New York. Everyone was extremely upset that this type of crime happened. Once again it involved a young lady of Natalee’s age. He thought he was a man of privilege and he would get away with it. Everyone just looked at this guy and hated him from the get go and it is the same here with Joran.

    63. Maya99 on June 26th, 2005 9:38 am

      Kristin – Are you the Kristin who gave an e-mail address to talk off the thread the other day?

    64. Kristin-in-SC on June 26th, 2005 9:41 am

      No, I am not the same Kristin.

    65. Maya99 on June 26th, 2005 9:45 am

      thanks, Kristin.
      San, was Robert Chambers the Preppie Murderer?

    66. scaredshitless on June 26th, 2005 9:52 am

      Yes, in was 8/86 and Robert Chambers killed Jennifer Levin

    67. leopardqueen on June 26th, 2005 9:53 am

      No news here either, I see

    68. Maya99 on June 26th, 2005 10:07 am

      The hearing has probably already started, but since no one is allowed inside except the judge, the five in custody, and their attorneys, I suppose, and since each will be dealt with individually, we could be here all day and not know what is going on. The media is at the courthouse — I wonder if anyone is following Equsearch (sp.?) and where they are today. Hopefully, getting their search on in peace.

    69. san on June 26th, 2005 10:08 am

      Yes, he was the Preppie Murderer? He is now out of jail and looks like hell.

    70. san on June 26th, 2005 10:10 am

      Do they bring them out into the court room individually and hear each case or do they all sit in court waiting their turn. It just would be interesting if the boy sees his father sitting in court also.

    71. scaredshitless on June 26th, 2005 10:16 am

      robert chambers to me is NOT handsome. He has cold dead eyes

    72. Maya99 on June 26th, 2005 10:17 am

      Fox had a short blurb on when the Judge arrived (blonde female in 30′s) with big binders, and stuff, and the comment was that they wanted them all together and hearing each other in the hope that one of them would talk. The feeling was that she wanted to continue to hold them.

    73. san on June 26th, 2005 10:20 am

      He is not hansome to me either. But some women found him handsom.

    74. Paul on June 26th, 2005 10:41 am

      This comment is directed towards Arubans citizens whose livelihood depends on the consistent high flow of tourist traffic, especially from the U.S. If this case does not resolve itself in a satisfactory manner for the family of Natalee Holloway then the backlash that is and has been created by the media in America will severely affect the volume of tourist traffic to your idyllic, tranquil island. What this translates into is the quality of life as you now know it will be seriously affected by this event, no matter how you try to trivialize it statistically or ignore it figuring time will take pass and almost all will be forgotten. You must start to consider your options as a people and as the current government and justice system fumbles it way along with the eyes of America impatiently observing those wheels of justice turning ever so slowly, like an iguana basking in the midday sun. In order to save and preserve all that keeps your tourist industry humming like a well tuned engine is to seriously consider, as the next political elections are on the horizon, is to bring in a new government which will show the world that Aruba, as a people, has a strong powerful voice and this is our response to you all. The only other way you can get out of this situation without much scarring to your longterm island economy is if Natalee showed up at Queen Beatrix Airport, ready to fly back to her HOME. You should think long and hard about these ‘quiet’ little comments as you’ll have to live with what you do or don’t do for the rest of your lives and those of your families. This unfortunately has been dropped at your front door and they’ll be no sweeping it under the mat. You all have the ability to control the outcome of a very sad and bad situation and preserve the reputation of being one of the greatest places to vacation in all of the Carrribean. The choice is yours, ‘good luck’ !

    75. Maya99 on June 26th, 2005 10:42 am

      There is a new article from the Scared Monkeys and a new thread with only three posts for those of us like me who have to scroll down all the messages after I post one. When I hit “refresh” it’s hit and miss, bt as the posts grow, so grows my carpel tunnel syndrome. Fox is showing pics of the detainees arriving earlier. Steve Croes’ mom is there (not inside, I don’t think).

    76. Yvonne Redell on June 26th, 2005 11:20 am

      My heart goes out to NH and her family also but for 3 days 3 little boys were missing in New Jersey. I did not see or hear anything on this or any blog or new alert until they were found dead in the trunk of a car. Something is seriously wrong with this picture. I can read Scared Monkeys any time of day or night and its all about NH. Why not add some more really important news alerts too. Those 3 little boys in New Jersey are just as important as NH, maybe more because there were 3 of them all under 11 yrs old. Maybe a good idea for this site is a drop down with the latest news, and we can click on what or who we want to read about and discuss.


      Natalee Holloway
      3 little boys missing in New Jersey
      3 little boys found dead after 3 days of searching
      Joe Blow shoots Jane Doe

      I love Scared Monkeys, but lets get a variety of up to the minute news!

    77. AllyinMiami on June 26th, 2005 11:28 am

      Simian, por favor, dejame saber cuando estas aqui…Me tengo que ir en un poco a celebrar mis cumpleanos……

      Lucy and Check me: Thank you very much for the birthday wishes—-No hard feelings, checkme—I still am incredibly grateful to you and I think you are a very sweet and your kindness is infectious.

      Subdude: I read your analysis last night…your insight is unbelievable

    78. ydave on June 26th, 2005 12:20 pm

      The kalpoes should not be let free. They should be held as criminals along with Joran, Paulus, Croes.

      The list also includes all the others who helped cover up and not arrested yet. The Kalpoes have committed numerous crimes. To knowingly mislead the police and get them to waste time and resources on false leads should be severly punished with many years in prison.

      The Aruban Attorney General should apply a no-way-out policy on all suspects, to show some integrity in this investigation.

    79. Lou Anne Lewis on June 26th, 2005 12:20 pm

      I just was watching msnbc…martin did a nice visual taping of the beach where all the supposed events took place and where nat was supposedly left. People tourist going about their tourist activities…amidst search boat…
      search team searching specific locations…”other side of island too “dangerous” in thier own words….ummmmm no Sh**…but you cant have a full search if ya dont go everywhere….I dont feel good about this aspect….limits finding nat.
      news channels all have detainees on their way and in court…
      msnbc says MOST people expect them to remain detained.
      UP thread I read that the original three were electronically survailed…hummmm..first I have heard of this….. and that SR Vander WAS detained to make JR Van talk…. thats new too…hummmmm
      I just want this point…thank Martin reporting for MSNBC…for this mornings live new cast…..showing the terraine of aruba….more please….it is exactly what I had mentioned and asked for last night….
      but I still think they should search around and near the old refinery at san (nemas?) I think the obvious search is a lost cause…
      I think the DJ…might be more of a defense witness…in the long run….can acknowledge seeing nat and joran alive and well( specially now that SR VANS detention is questionable as to the reason for it…..and that maybe because of all the media attention the arubian athorities are holding anyone with any form of confirmation to keep them away from the media…. whith all this raport of how different our two types of systems work…I can see that happening….
      SO unless there has been a surfacing of DNA findings today….I would say we are no closer to an end than three weeks ago…and that we may be getting fed local theory…which is okay…its a part of any investigation….but needs to be presented as such…
      to the locals….where is your final resting place for local trash pick up… is it ultimately disposed of…..any searches been done there…?

    80. ydave on June 26th, 2005 1:16 pm

      Tourists need to feel the system works, and powerful corrupt government officials acting like mafia are removed from the system, prosecuted, and sent to jail.

    81. Paul on June 26th, 2005 1:57 pm

      ydave, take a glance at what I directed the local pop. to take under serious advisement .
      6-26 10:41 a.m.

    82. mdjgirl7 on June 26th, 2005 10:43 pm

      Hello all, I have just read thru the post and I am assuming J’s Dad has been released. Like I said before I had my suspicions about that. They would not let his Dad see him before at all. What better way to let him have access to his son then to hold him for a couple of days out of the media’s eyes.
      My other thing is I don’t think what happened to Nat was on purpose. So I don’t think this was a planned out thing. The time frame is they left the bar at 1am I don’t know what time the brothers left J and Nat on the beach but that does not leave a whole lot of time to get rid of somebody before sunrise.
      I think Daddy had a hand in it. I think J panicked got Dad and wasn’t Mrs J out of town. Hmmm does their house have a basement? I don’t think Daddy could round up a boat that quick before sunrise that somebody would not notice something off.
      I think they could have stashed her for a day then did something with her. I think they need to take those dogs thru their house every inch of it and the cars as well.
      I remember this on the discover channel years ago. A guy killed his wife in the basement got rid of her body and cleaned up the basement and painted it. The lady’s sister pitched a fit the cops took a dog in his house and darned if the dog didn’t pick up her speck of her blood on a mop he cleaned up with. I mean it was microscopic.
      I don’t think J could have woke his Dad up maybe 2am and had him kewl calm and collected on how to handle a very horrible situation really fast so fast nobody can find a thing. I think they must have had more time to figure this out. So I hope they will send all of our post to the authority’s and take those dogs to the house!!

    83. soraia on June 28th, 2005 12:20 am

      I feel for the family because i went through something similar in february 6, 2005. I was in Curacao, the island neighboring Aruba. And my husband and i went to boca tabla (click on this link to see the picture of boca tabla:

      with my brother in law, to visit only, and my husband fell on the water and the waves are huge and there was no life guard no one to help and no way out because the more he tried to swim the worst it got and finally a wave covered him and he died. i called the police and they came about two hours after my husband died, and the minute i told him i was american he shit in his pants, he freaked out they called the ambulance for me b/c i cut my feet from running on the rocks there, if my husband was an american citizen you would have seen me in the news and i would have been able to make a big deal out of this, lucky for those assholes at curacao he wasnt. but he was a resident there and they acted like nothing. they didnt find his body and they said we will look for it later and i yelled and i told them no keep looking if it werent for my family they wouldnt have seen his body floating a few miles from where he had fallen. Im glad that the FBI got involved and i hope that they will find justice for these people and i hope that natalie is safe…

    84. DML on June 28th, 2005 8:48 am

      S – you’re a real scum bag

    85. DML on June 28th, 2005 8:54 am

      TheGreatPretender – Also a scum bag

    86. Christopher L. Schaefer on July 13th, 2005 11:16 am

      Dear Sirs,

      Allow me to preface this email by stating I am American associated with absolutely no agencies.

      I’m writing you because I believe you may have access to the authorities of Aruba and might convey what I’m about to propose.

      A compact, mobile heart monitor should be secured. This monitor would, ideally, be of the variety that can be monitored and recorded remotely. I would also suggest a GPS device, also capable of being monitored and recorded remotely.

      Utilizing a major 4 wheel drive vehicle, a course should be mapped out which will cover the entire island.

      The equipment described should be applied to the suspect(s) and engaged, the suspect should be driven through this course several times.

      The recording of the suspect’s heart, in synch with the GPS and Map should be evaluated. Upon evaluation a pattern will be noticed where the suspect’s heart spikes.

      These are the areas the authorities should be searching.

      Christopher L. Schaefer

    87. Motherof4 on July 26th, 2005 12:21 pm

      i believe that what really happened is that the boys had a plan and no victim. So NH was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I believe that the father is in on it too. I and many of my friends and family believe that they have a prostitution ring. The boys find the young innocent girls, bring them to the beach after a few drinks, and the father or someone else, is there with a boat waiting. He then takes the girls out into the ocean to a larger boat where they sell the young girls to a prospective buyer. The father is the perfect cover up being a judge. No one would suspect an upstanding citizen of such wrong doings. He would also have the resources to get the boys of of trouble if caught. That is why they cannot find any traces of anything. Because there is nothing. Even if she had dropped anything at the beach it would have been washed out to sea. I believe that she is a alive in Venezuela or another country that is nearby. I pray for her family everyday and hope and pray the truth will come out. She is alive and we must keep believing.

    88. Rudy on August 4th, 2005 9:57 pm

      To all the bleeding hearts out there:

      If you feel NH’s story is such a tragedy, how can you sleep when she is nothing more than one out of who knows how many more missing youths? Talk about being manipulated!

      Oh, and for the record, I have no sympathy whatsoever for any of those “who knows how many more missing youths” myself. Since not one of them has been part of my family, I feel no empathy nor aympathy for them. Is the disappearence of children a tragedy? Yes, it is. Does it affect me somehow? No, and until it does, I’ll shake my head when silly little girls like NH get in way over their heads. I wonder how much of the blame of what happened really falls on her own sholders…

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