Natalee Holloway, Update Sat. June 4



There are continual updates and breaking news

Natalee Holloway, the Alabama teen that went missing in Aruba has still not been found. Updates to the missing teen and the investigations in Aruba to find her where abouts. The reward for her safe return has grown to $50,000.

The Birmingham News reports the “Search grows more urgent for teen missing in Aruba”

Police in Aruba said Friday the prognosis was growing darker as the search for a missing Mountain Brook teen dragged on.

Natalee Holloway disappeared early Monday on a senior class trip to the Caribbean island. On day five of the search, a reward for her return grew to $50,000.

If she is not found by Sunday, the case could become a criminal investigation, said Jules Sambo, a superintendent for the Aruba police.

As the days pass and we know nothing about her … we probably can start to think about something more serious,” he said.

Holloway’s family posted fliers blaring the word “KIDNAPPED” in red, but police said they had no evidence to support such a claim.

Late Friday night that Aruban officials were rejecting any more help offered by the US in the search for Natalee Holloway which most likely would not have been the smartest PR move for the “Happy Island”.

Authorities on the island of Aruba say they don’t need any more help from the FBI than it’s already providing in the search for a missing 18-year-old Alabama girl.

However, there may have been a change of heart and pressure placed on the Aruba authorities to do everything to find Natalee. It would appear that more FBI agents are being dispatched to Aruba to help in the search.

Justice Minister Rudy Croes announced late Friday that more FBI agents were heading to the island but he did not specify how many, according to The Associated Press.

Aruban police have been scouring the 20-mile-long island by boat, helicopter and on foot with assistance from the Royal Dutch Marines and the FBI. The TV show America’s Most Wanted is set to feature Holloway’s story during tonight’s broadcast.

From USA Today

Justice Minister Rudy Croes announced late Friday that more FBI agents were on the way to Aruba, though he did not specify how many or say how many were already on the island. FBI officials did not return calls seeking comment.

Authorities say there is no evidence that the honors student was abducted, but police commissioner Jan van der Straaten said “after four or five days you are afraid a crime has been committed.”

Her mother had pleaded earlier Friday for the Dutch government to request more direct help from the United States.

“We all have a common goal to find Natalee so we can bring her home,” Holloway Twitty told reporters in a hotel conference room. She choked up and left the room in tears.

Aruban Attorney General Caren Janssen had insisted earlier that local authorities did not need more U.S. help. U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Washington was “making sure that we provide all possible assistance to the family and local authorities.”

A $50,000 reward has been offered for information leading to Holloway’s rescue, said Myrna Jansen, the director of Aruba’s tourism office. The Aruban government and local tourism organizations were contributing $20,000, while family and benefactors in Alabama were offering the rest, she said.

MSNBC reports:

More FBI agents headed to Aruba to help search for an Alabama teenager whose disappearance on the last day of a high school graduation trip has shaken the quiet Dutch Caribbean island.

*** Also the three individuals that were originally questioned in Natalee Holloway’s disappearance and were considered not suspects are now considered ‘Persons of interest.’

Meantime, three males being questioned in the disappearance of an Alabama teenager in the Dutch Caribbean are now officially considered “persons of interest,” reported WVTM reporter Andrew Hayenga.

The “persons of interest” are two people from Suriname and one from the Netherlands who were seen dropping the girl off at the hotel the night she was last seen, Hayenga said citing the deputy police chief of Aruba.

*** UPDATE I ***

From Fox News: Police Search Closed Hotel for Missing Ala. Teen

Authorities told reporters Saturday that there were no new developments in the search for a missing Alabama teenager who went missing Thursday in Aruba despite a flurry of activity at an abandoned hotel near where the girl had been staying.

Police were seen actively searching each room of the Allegro Hotel in Oranjestad, which is currently undergoing renovations. The hotel’s casino, however, is still open.

Orin Kerr thinks all the missing persons in America are white women. He may have a point on how the media reacts. But remember, this is someones daughter, and many many people have children participating in these sorts of events these days.


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  • Comments

    87 Responses to “Natalee Holloway, Update Sat. June 4”

    1. Bonnie on June 4th, 2005 3:09 pm

      I pray to God that they find the people that have kiddnapped her because it could lead the police and everyone else to the other probrolems going on right now on that side of the world.


    2. WOIMB on June 4th, 2005 3:13 pm

      I know Natalee.
      She’s a responsible, smart girl who was at the wrong place at the wrong time.
      We’re certain she’ll come home soon.
      Thanks for helping to get the word out.

    3. Red on June 4th, 2005 5:34 pm


      You are most welcome. Please email us or any of her friends with anything regarding Natalee so that we can help out and have a safe outcome to this matter.

      We are praying for Natalee, her family and friends. God Bless.

    4. Amy on June 4th, 2005 6:15 pm

      I guess we are all praying for the best outcome of Natalee Holloway. But please note that at this point she just disappeared, there is no evidence that someone kidnapped her. Ofcourse you might think the worst, since it’s already been 5 days that she went missing on a “small island” and still they can’t find her.
      I’ll suggest people have a positive mind and just hope/pray for a good ending.
      The police force with the FBI’s assitance are doing their jobs and anything else to find Natalee, pray for them too. Since they are doing the hard work of figuring out where she is. They want her safe back home as much as you do.

    5. :( on June 4th, 2005 7:05 pm

      This is my theory. Her friends have told me that she left the nightclub really drunk. I think that those 3 men used some sort of date rape drug on her, then took her to someplace and raped her. Then I think she overdosed on the drugs they used on her and in an effort to conceal the “accident” the three men took cut her up and threw her to the sharks…. where no body would ever be found.

      I know this sounds very pesimistic and I really hope I’m wrong. I want Natalee to come back to AL.

    6. Amy on June 4th, 2005 7:23 pm

      Whatever happened to her on that night, she and God knows. The problem is we don’t.
      Let the police and the FBI do their work and let us do the praying for a good outcome.
      Whatever it is, the FBI and police are smart people they will figure it out.
      I just hope she is hiding somewhere.

    7. Red on June 4th, 2005 7:58 pm

      Amy I hope you are right.

      If memory serves me the interrogation process and custody of “persons of interest” much different than US. They can be held without being charged of a crime. What would the ACLU say?

      Doing some research on that right now. If there are any lawyers out there with some knowledge on this, let us know.

    8. Nickie Goomba on June 4th, 2005 8:15 pm

      Someone’s gonna eventually question the parenting here. There are some who believe that sending a HS graduating teen girl to Aruba to “celebrate” could prove fatal. I pray that I’m wrong.

    9. Red on June 5th, 2005 1:00 am


      There are many things that could have been different with all of this.

      Let’s hope that it is not learned with the most difficult lesson in life.

      No I would never let my 18 yr old go out of the country without me. The things I did in my youth were much different and it was a different time.

      I have to wonder what the chaperone’s were doing as well.

      And kids … all of you. Do not ever let your friends get in a car with 3 strangers. Please.

    10. heather on June 6th, 2005 2:05 am

      i am so upset about this situation, and feel so much for natalee and her family. i am a student at auburn university ( the rival college of where natalee is supposed to be attending). i am from about 4 hrs from her home adn wish i knew what happened, like most do… but i can’t understand why her friends didnt stop natalee from getting in that car, when they saw her do it… also, where were her roomates at the hotel? when they packed up to leave, or even that night, why did they not tell somebody that natalee left with some people? did they just leave for their flight without telling anybody natalee didnt come in the previous night? if anybody has any responses, please tell us!!!

    11. mary on June 6th, 2005 3:35 am

      Unfortunately, Natalee will never be seen alive again. Where were the chaperones when Natalee was supposedly drunk? Why were underage teenagers being severed liquior? Wasn’t that the reason why so many chaperones decided to take the trip to Aruba, to accompany the young woman to any and all actvities. To protect them from any impending dangers. So, what the heck happen? And her friends, how drunk were they to allow Natalee in a car with total strangers. My guess is they were all drunk. In terms of the parents, well, you figure with so many chaperones, what could possibly go wrong with so many adults. According to family members and friends, Natalee was a sensible individual, someone who just wouldn’t walk out with total strangers. I guess under the influence anything is possible. I really hope she is found alive and safe. My thoughts and prayers are with the family.

    12. phil on June 6th, 2005 8:55 am

      Legal drinking age in Aruba is 18, by the way.

    13. Melanie on June 6th, 2005 11:25 am

      This is really sad and it really raises some questions. As Phil stated this girl was legally drinking since the legal age in Aruba to drink is 18, thus this is not an issue. I just do not understand what got into her to leave her friends and take a ride back to her hotel with 3 unknown guys. As Mary stated, what were the chaperones responsibilities and how could they let her leave with total strangers? I am way older than 18 and as girls we go out together and come back home together. We were just in Aruba with several girlfriends in May and we took cabs back to the hotel, we would never accept a ride from a total stranger which only can invite troubles regardless how safe the town is. A cab ride in Aruba from Carlos & Charlie to the Holiday Inn should not be much more than $10-15. A small price to pay for your own safety. Aruba is relatively safe compared to other places in the Caribbean. I pray for the family of Natalee that they find her soon.

    14. Mark on June 6th, 2005 11:32 am

      When i see the images of Mrs. Holloway leaving the press conference, i can not imagine her suffering and pain. There are lessons here that will become clearer over time, there is no “fantasy island” Evil people are everywhere preying on innocents like Natalee. Let’s not place blame, let’s pray for justice and healing. MKline.

    15. Rich & Melinda on June 6th, 2005 1:08 pm

      Beth & Dave

      We are praying for you all

    16. Jeff Mixon on June 6th, 2005 2:30 pm

      This is truly a sad time for all. I pray that justice will be served and the truth will come out. I myself would love to kick someone in the teeth over this, sorry, it just makes me furious when this type of thing happens. Gods speed to Natalee and her family!

    17. selina on June 6th, 2005 4:03 pm

      we in the bahamas are praying for natalee’s safe return.

    18. Egmaran on June 6th, 2005 7:37 pm

      We are doing the best we can to find Natalee, Aruba is a small island and it’s surrounded by sea, so nobody gets ( with the intention to do so or not) very far.
      We are all hoping to find her sound and safe. One of the many volunteers that is helping with the search

    19. Nestor Presas on June 7th, 2005 9:09 pm

      Just a piece of information from someone who knows the area: There is a strong link between Aruba and Colombia. A great percentage of Hotel workers in Aruba are Colombian nationals. Aruba is known as a nodule in the drug trade.

      There is a solid traffic in women from Colombia to prostitution establishment in Asia. (Japan mainly) Over 35, 0000 women are ‘sold’ annually into this market. An 18 year old like Natalee Holloway can produce a profit of $50,000 maybe more in this market. These networks move women rapidly from one country to the next using the same conduits available for their cocaine and heroine traffic.

      Women are forced into prostitution by drugs and violence. The ‘ideal’ candidate is someone like Natalee, beautiful , fresh, but trustful and naive.

      I hope the FBi is exploring this option. Aruba is a very small island and it is very unlikely that a crime of opportunity -as this is being portrayed- will leave no forensic processable trace. On the other hand a deliberate abduction by force and the rapid transport of the victim using conduit for the drug trade can explain the sudden, bafling, disappeance. European and American women traveling alone in South America ‘disappear’ at a very high rate.

    20. NATALEE on June 7th, 2005 10:24 pm


    21. *^& on June 7th, 2005 10:49 pm

      I wonder if this abduction is in response to Condi Rice statements against the Trade in Women in Venezuela?

    22. Jeremy on June 8th, 2005 6:00 am

      As Phil stated this girl was legally drinking since the legal age in Aruba to drink is 18, thus this is not an issue. I have some words to say to this person.

      Hmm.. well if someone at Natalees age is not used to drinking there will be less tolerance built up and the person can become intoxicated faster than a person that is used to drinking and Natalee most likely did not know when she should stop drinking. Under the influence of alcohol, drugs, a person’s judgement is hindered especially if that person is not used to drinking or using a drug and while intoxocated they are more likely to submit to things that they normally would not submit to like getting in a car with strangers thinking that they were nice people without thinking about the consequences of getting in a car with 3 strangers. If I was on the investigation team I would be investigating the night club and bar and look for suspicious people there targeting American women. At almost any bar town University or club there is usually some sick, creepy, and perverted person loitering around in the bars and clubs to just to get laid but most women who know their limits in drinking and are used to drinking would be able to detect right away when a guy is creep and when to get away from him. When highly intoxicated a woman’s judgement is hindered and is less likely to detect when a guy is a creep and is more likely to submit to his requests to get in his car or to sleep with him.

      In my opinion, I think it was very foolish for Natalee and her friends to go to a bar in a place where you are foreign and you have no idea about the integrity of the people who go there nor any idea of a serial rapist who may be attending at the bar all long and targeting women. Keep in mind we are talking about a foreign country where not all of the laws are the same as the US and where the culture is different. In America, the bar tender would be responsible for a customers well being, if a customer leaves the bar intoxicated and gets into a fatal car accident driving back home, the bar tender is liable for the customers death and can be sued or even lose his license to sell alcohol up to and including criminal charges. A bar tender in the United States also is liable if a customer becomes intoxicated and walks out of the bar and lays down in the middle of the street and gets hit by a car. In these foreign countries, not all laws are the same, and at most bars and clubs in these foreign countries, the bar tenders and staff are not concerned about their customers well being and safety they are only thinking about making money since there are no laws that would motivate the bar and club owner and manager to think twice before risking heavy fines or losing a license to sell alcohol for letting an intoxicated customer leave the bar or club intoxicated alone or with strangers especially a young woman from a foreign country with locals from the community who are complete strangers.

      I also think that there was probably negligence from the Chaperones for letting Natalee go there with her friends alone and not checking up on everyone to make sure no one was going to some place on that island they should not be going to alone without supervision for their safety. You cannot give the people in any foreign country 100% trust if you are a foreigner and have only been there a few days, come on. I have been out of the country on high school trips before and I must say the chaperones and the band director who organized them made everyone’s safety and well being for those going on the trips a high priority and hence no one turned up missing. It sounds like the chaperones who organized the trip for Natalees high school did not do a good job of checking up on everyone to make sure no one was missing from their assigned hotel room and did not organize a curfew to avoid this tragedy. On trips where you go out of the country, you cant allow the students to leave their hotel room at any time during the night or be out of the hotel past midnight to ensure a students safety. A teenage girl hanging out late at night at a bar intoxicated with no chaperone or friend who is sober in the proximity of the area to keep a watch on her is in a risky situation and her well being and safety are at risk.

    23. Mygoye Hakamura on June 8th, 2005 12:23 pm

      Jeremy, you are making too many assumptions. We don’t really know if any of the things you mention actually happened. Maybe there was a curfew. Maybe the club owners check who comes into their establishment. The fact of the matter is that women do disappear in South America. Nikola Henkler, a German tourist who is 28 is been unaccounted for since december 2002, Annagreth Wirgler, age 23, disappear in Argentina in August 2004. No traces have been found of either women.

    24. TUCKERMAXX on June 8th, 2005 1:14 pm

      This is Natalee, She is the beautiful young woman from the Midwest, who has recently gone missing in Aruba. Im sure you all know the story by now. But what people miss or dont think about is the STUPID fucking mistake she made in all this. Her problem started the minute this 18 year old got wasted at the bar. Honey you are 18, you aren’t even suppose to be drinking. I’m Assuming, since she is a straight A student ready to go college on a full academic scholarship, that she was not really a party girl. So why be one in a foreign country around COMPLETE strangers from that foreign country. Which brings me to her second STUPID mistake, getting in a CAR with said strangers instead of going home like everyone else. I mean come on already.. Didn’t your mother ever tell you not to go off with strangers. She is a smart girl, right? Wrong. She made the stupid decision to go off, with strangers, in a strange country, alone. Which brings me to the third and last reason she is STUPID. Why on earth would an 18 year old separate from her girl friends on her last night of a “school” trip. WHY LEAVE THEM??? Where was her best friend to say “No, goddamn it Natalee, your fucked up, and your coming with me – BACK TO OUR HOTEL”. I dont get it. It was her last night on the island with her best friends in the world, a normal person would enjot that with friends. Didn’t she have enough fun the previous 4 nights? She had to push it, she made stupid mistakes and now she has paid the ultimate price for those mistakes. In life there are learning mistakes, and life ending mistakes, a smart person knows which ones to make. A stupid person, well you know the answer to that one.
      In my mind I feel sorry for her parents. Not because they are ready to lose a child, but because they are going to bear the burden of knowing that they raised a STUPID child, who made 3 STUPID mistakes that wound up getting her killed.
      I know what you are thinking, aside from hating me, just think about the three stupid ass things she did and what it adds up to;

      1. Get hammered in a foreign country at 18.
      2. Going off with 3 strange young men, drunk.
      3. Leaving her secure group of friends / safety in numbers…


      Waste/Death of a beautiful life.

    25. Hoping for a safe return on June 8th, 2005 1:16 pm

      I know the longer it goes on, the more pessimism seeps into our minds. I do hope she is found safe and sound. I don’t want to point fingers at anyone but you have to ask why would people she considered friends let her go off with a couple of men she just met? On top of her possibly being intoxicated? From the reports it seems there were signs this could have been totally averted.

    26. Nicole on June 8th, 2005 1:19 pm

      I live about 20 minutes from Natalee’s hometown. The story is all over the local news here. My heart goes out to the family. However, I think the family is being very naive about the circumstances leading up to her disappearance. They have been quoted saying Natalee wouldn’t leave with strangers or that she’s not into partying. But the fact is this girl is a high school graduate who went to Aruba on a class trip… you don’t go to Aruba to enjoy the history or culture. This group of teenagers (who might I add come from a WEALTHY neighborhood) went to this island to party. If it were Aruba or Panama City Beach, FL she would have done the same thing as far as getting into a car with 3 guys. I truely hate that all this has happened… but people disappear daily inside the United States. I saw on the news today the lady that organized the whole trip. She said “the chaperones were not there to babysit but only to asist in an emergency” well i think this would be an emergency. but the fact is no one is responsible for her actions she should have known better!

    27. aruba101 on June 8th, 2005 1:27 pm

      I live on the island this is a truly peaceful island and we are all shocked by this!why do you think this is such big news?thsi has never happened tous!we are trully hopeeful that she will be found alive and are doign all possible on the island…can you imanige any city or your hometown in the US giving a day off to ALL government employees to go on a search? HOw many times does this happen in the US and nothign is even done about it maybe a 3 day search? I livedin MIami and this was a very common thing but they even have allowed FBI agent sto come into the coutnry and help, showing how truly sad we feel about this incident and are praying everyday for her safe return!People who have bben to aruba can tell you the sam ehtign about our peaceful ness but that doesnt mean were crimeless! no where in the world is but our crime rate sounds almost impossible becuase its so low…I moved here because I want a safer life for my children a more open life were its ok for them to go to the movies and not have me around for safety. And I must say I also go out to the clubs here and if you see the things that the american tourist do here you would never believe it!The go WAYOUT we even had an incedent at one bar that a group of over 20 american tyourists went barenaked in a club and we understand their on vacation and their having fun…but thier are limits. So lets understand that you can be the valedictorian of your class but on vacation EVERYONE is a different person, lets just pray she is found alive and well that is whats important here nothignelse

    28. Kokomo on June 8th, 2005 3:24 pm

      I just can’t belive everyone claiming ignorance in this blog.

      The reason why 18 year olds go outside of the US is precisely because it is legal to drink. The reason American girls get into car with strangers is to buy drugs, mostly pot. After all, they do the same thing safely in the ‘bad parts’ of town in the US all the time.

      She wouldn’t do this, she wouldn’t do that? What planet do you people live?

      Natalee is another victim of our victorian, puritanical views that make partying a life risking endeavour. For centuries the ugly American has misbehaved abroad because state side we are just a bunch of sick prudes!

    29. Sadin H-Town on June 8th, 2005 3:33 pm

      Nestor Presas nailed it. Same thing probably happened to Amy Bradley in ’98 as well as many other unfortunate, unsuspecting women.

    30. Craig Bloxham on June 8th, 2005 3:51 pm

      Personally, I am appalled by the faux naivite’, ignorance and insensitiveness displayed in many of the other replies I have read here.

      1. What does the FBI or the United States in general have to do with an investigation occuring on foreign soil? NOTHING.
      2. Where was it ever mentioned the the “3 guys” gave her a ride from the club she was partying at? It wasn’t. The “3 guys” does not refer to the men that were arrested either, by the way.
      3. Theorizing graphically about what you fantasize about is tastless, baseless, and disrepectfull to the family of this young women. Although it is your right to be an idiot.
      4. Young women like to party in clubs in tropical locals, it is completely normal behavior.
      5. The chaperones like to party in clubs in tropical locals as well, and this is also normal behavior.
      6. What is abnormal, is the dissappearance. PERIOD.

      I pray for the Natalie, her family, freinds, and all those who are helping to solve this mystery.

    31. Anny on June 8th, 2005 5:11 pm

      She’s a responsible, smart girl who was at the wrong place at the wrong time?? leaving a BAR at 2AM? gimmee a break!

    32. Kokomo on June 8th, 2005 7:06 pm

      I was wondering how long it will take before the word ‘insensitivity’ will show its ugly face.

      Lets be all sensitive and pussyfoot about the realities of life. It does not matter that young women appear to vanish without a trace in the Dutch Antilles. It does not matter that partying in ‘tropical locales’ may be lethal. We are tallking abduction, human trade, forced prostitution, rape, homicide, but we have to make sure we don’t ruffle any feathers. Even if it means learning something?

      Someone needs to look the word man in the dictionary.

    33. Nestor Presas on June 8th, 2005 7:21 pm


      Also: Trafficking of Women and Children for Sexual Exploitation in the Americas,” Fact Sheet, July 2001, Inter-American Commission of Women – Organization of American States and Women, Health and Development Program — (Pan American Health Organization).

      As mentioned earlier, political conflicts play a significant role in creating the fertile grounds for human trafficking to flourish. Local corruption and the complicity of international officials allow a trafficking network to flourish, in which women are tricked, threatened, physically assaulted and sold as chattel.

      According to various sources, Colombia’s ongoing conflict and its displacement of millions has increased the trafficking of women – even regionally. There are two types of prostitution trade networks working simultaneously in the country: ones which only work with women from within the country or the regional area, sending women to Venezuela, Ecuador and Panama for sexual exploitation and forced conscription for terrorist groups; the other deals on an exclusively international scale, providing Colombian women for the markets in Spain, Britain, Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, the United States, Japan, Singapore and Hong Kong.

      According to Interpol, approximately 35,000 women are trafficked out of Colombia every year. Increasing numbers of Colombian women arrive over the border and are convinced by international crime rings to travel to other countries, where they wind up in prostitution. Trafficking rings work by offering a legitimate-sounding job overseas, like working in a nightclub or domestic labor. They give the women money and help for visas and plane fare, and cash to pass as tourists to immigration authorities. Once abroad, they must work as prostitutes to pay a “fee.”

    34. Andrea on June 8th, 2005 10:25 pm

      All we can do is pray for Natalie. Everyone is speculating, assuming and forgetting that God is in control. Just like with the “runaway bride” I assumed she was dead, and it was a shock to me when she showed up. I was wrong to pre-decide what happened. We have a good and loving God , and we need to try and leave it in His hands. There is a reason for everything that happens, good and bad. Let’s just pray that something good can come from this. And, pray for the ones suffering the most………..the family.

    35. Bella on June 9th, 2005 12:38 am

      I am sorry to hear about the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The Police on Aruba need to search an area called The Cove for her. They need to really look that area over for her and see if there are any clues linking to her where abouts. Also someone at the hotel had to have witnessed something but are failing to say anything. Could it be that they are scared for there lives. Could they have witnessed her being abducted but fear for there families lives so they stay quiet. Hopefully God will give them the strength to speak up before it is to late for Natalee. Again I state they really need to check an area called The Cove for her. I pray God be with her and protect her through all of this. I pray that God be with her family and give them the strength to go through this as well.

    36. whoa! on June 9th, 2005 1:15 am

      May God be with Natalee and her family and friends. My prayers are with you.

    37. Babalu on June 9th, 2005 1:36 am

      God help those who help themsleves, prayer without action is no different than magic and idolatry

    38. CatSuga on June 9th, 2005 4:08 am

      This is complete bullshit!

    39. CatSuga on June 9th, 2005 4:09 am

      This is complete bullshit!
      I’m not trying to down play this situation but her friends are not being truthful about their character. All of those freaks be down at Banana Joe’s, clubbing, under age drinking, in the back all up on that Mandigo d***, using drugs…….that can’t play CatSuga stupid because I SEEN THEM THERE!!!!!! Those girls need to come out and say that she went to go get THEM some drugs. If they would have been truthful in the beginning they would have found her that night.

      How in the f*** are you going to say that you saw your white female friend leave the club with 3 black men and that it was “out of her character”. BULLS***!!!! If I saw my white girlfriend leaving the club with 3 black men I would be BURNING RUBBER trying to catch her ***. They found someone to hook them up with the dope and sent her okie dokie *** out to fetch it.

    40. Kokomo on June 9th, 2005 10:04 am

      CatSuga says what is in everybody’s mind. Who do these girls think they are kidding?

      Their friend is dead or, worse; sold as a prostitute to some Colombian drug lord and they still they won’t come out clean, despicable.

    41. Hyro on June 9th, 2005 3:39 pm

      I’m from Aruba and let me make this very clear: Trafficking of Women and Children for Sexual Exploitation is NOT a practise ever heard on Aruba.
      Of all the posibilities I really think it would be the last thing that may have happened.
      My sincere wishes of faith & prayer for Natalee’s parents, family, friends and
      all of Mountain Brook.

    42. bitman on June 9th, 2005 4:50 pm

      KoKo and Catsuga,
      Everyone does not think like you two.
      The new information is around. A relative of the one of the “3 suspects” arrested today has a profile. The suspect is the brother and the last entry on the page from one of this relatives friend’s says, “your brother is ok, perverted, but ok” The suspect’s picture that was on his site. (now closed) showed him from the waist up with another male youth, who was naked (waist up was all that was pictured) on a TIGHT DOG LEASH!! The naked boy didn’t look to happy and the suspect was smiling in a very disurbing manner. ( got a copy of it) Also, the last two entries on his site ( before the site came down) where questions from two of the suspects friends asking how long he had been going with “Natalie” (that is how it was spelled) which points to more than a first time meeting with her that night; thus showing a trust building with this man.

      Now follow me on this; these same three said that when she got out of the car at the hotel she fell once and then again. That is not how a trained dancer handles balance unless she is doped up; not just drunk.

      And she doesn’t say, “sure, I’ll have sex with you 3 guys at the beach for 30 minutes”; drunk or doped up. She didn’t even know it was happening to her.
      I have had an out-patient surgery experience where I was out for an hour or so; walked from room to room with an escort. They had me walk into the recovery area turn around and sit down and lay on a bed and dont’ to this day remember a thing about it. Before the surgury, I watching people in the recovery area being escorted around with nurses and they were awake and walking but like zombies with eyes glazed. Same kind of drug used on this girl.
      I speculate that toward the last 30 to 45 minutes at the club somebody doped her and the affects started as they were leaving, which is why she look so drunk when she left.
      I speculate this kinky guy made friends with the girl for a couple of days, dopes her on the last night and him and his buddies take her to the beach. Totally, planned. Go to the internet and see for yourselves. I happend to save some of the sites before they shut down. This is total speculation based on information gained from other websites.

      If the suspect is all that his reputaion seems, I speculate that this man is clever, influential and evil.

      I feel very badly about this. This is not about nationality or color. She represents beauty, intelligence, youth and freedom with a reputation that contains high marks as a humanitarian, friend and volunteer. She was in paradise and the evil took her.
      I pray for us all, for the direction we are moving as a race of beings appears into hell on earth.


    43. Anny on June 9th, 2005 5:07 pm

      Sorry, but i think Koko and Catsuga probablydid get it right. It’s easy to specualate on what may or may not have happened. But all we know for SURE is little miss party girl was in a BAR at 2AM in a foreign environment. Even a fourth grader will tell you thats asking for trouble. We all make choices and we live by the consequences (good grief!)

    44. Kokomo on June 9th, 2005 5:24 pm


      It is OK to try to save your Island’s reputation but the evidence is against your assertion, this girl is the third American to disappear in the Dutch antilles without a trace: Larson, Bradley and now Holloway

    45. anthony riddle on June 9th, 2005 5:36 pm

      Some people are questioning the paretning by Natallee Holloway’s parents. I want to know where were the 40 chaperones who attended this trip as well. Parents should be able to peacefully send their children on such trips. The chaperones along with her graduate peers hold some accountability here as well.

    46. TUSCALOOSA on June 9th, 2005 8:19 pm

      I pray for Natalee Holloway safe return. It is sad that a beautiful vacation turn into a sad situation. To her friends please do not let your friends leave with strangers. To the family of Natalee i truly hope she is found and brought home safe.

    47. Mordred on June 9th, 2005 9:56 pm

      First, I’d like to join your prayers for Natalee’s safe return.
      Second, I think the sentiments expressed by people like Catsuga -”All of those freaks be down at Banana Joe’s, clubbing, under age drinking, in the back all up on that Mandigo d***, using drugs……” are the reason such evil acts occur in our world!!
      The police have bungled this investigation by arresting 2 black men (who we all know are innocent) & thus giving the three other guys time to cover their tracks.

      I live in a city in Canada where the drinking age is 17 (flexible) I go to clubs & I see this happen all the time! Young American teenagers looking to have fun getting into all kinds of trouble. Numerous times have I given them a ride to their hotels or my appartment to sleep off the alcohol. A couple of times I have had my crotch grabbed by girls right in front of their chaperones! I am tired of being accosted on the street by Americans asking if I have any drugs (I am a young black male by the way).

      The fact is that this crime (if it is) could have happened in Mexico or the French Riviera. Aruba is not any more dangerous today than it was last week. Only one thing I agree with Catsuga – her friends know more than they are letting on!
      Let us strive to serve God with our actions & words Catsuga- that the life of this girl be not on our hands.

    48. Nestor Presas on June 9th, 2005 11:12 pm

      Well said Mondred!

      Too many American parents raise their children in complete denial. At the first chance; going abroad or, to college, the kids let loose with terrible consequences. Parents need to be more realistic in opening up to their kids about the things of the world.

      In Europe, we drink wine with our family and ‘party’ in a family environment before being let loose. Consequently we sow our wild oats more safely than most American kids.

    49. Nestor Presas on June 9th, 2005 11:17 pm

      By the way , I’m also praying for Natalee’s safe retun, but I am not very optimistic. I think more likely we will never know what happened. I believe she is out of the country by now. If her abductors believe that she is too much of a problem to move her into the black market they will kill her humdreds of miles away from the place were the investigation is taking place. May God bless her and guard her.

    50. Nicole on June 9th, 2005 11:27 pm

      FYI… not 40 chaperones… less than 10 and they were probably partying theirselves.

    51. Bella on June 10th, 2005 12:04 am

      I have to say I agree with Bitman. I think Natalee was drugged. Reguardless what all you think that American girls just go wild when they leave home not all girls are like that. I dont think that her parents need to be subjected to people thinking ill of them or there parenting. They raised her very well. To be that much out of her character means she was probably given a date rape drug. What happens after that is not her fault. It is not like she was asked to be drugged up or anything. The truth will eventually come out. To many suspects eventually one will turn on another. Which by the way for all you Americans it has been stated that Carlos & Charlie is the same as and Applebee’s here in the states. Or a TGIF Restaurant. So it in not just a bar like everyone keeps putting it. There is more to it. That means she did not have to be drinking alcohol she could have been drugged up even with the simplest drink. As young adults we sometime make stupid choices but that does not mean she did. She was at a place where 40 of her school mates were and a chaperone. If she was drugged up it would be very easy to get her out of there and take full advantage of her. Date rape drugs are a huge thing. No one is perfect but no one asks to have three guys take advantage of you either. I say again I think if the dive teams would check out The Cove they will end up finding her body. Lets just hope by the grace of God though that she is just being held somewhere until things can calm down. Honestly though. That is unlikely at this point. Then you have to ask yourself that question. Knowing that the 17 year old’s family is a judge in Aruba or almost a judge in Aruba and this could affect the family’s lives there in a major way would the family step in a cover up a crime to protect there child who is underage? Would they make sure she was taken off the island and dumped somewhere else just to protect themselves? I guess only God knows huh.

    52. Mordred on June 10th, 2005 1:01 am

      Bella- Its not that we think American girls act outrageously while abroad. I go to a big university & I don’t know many girls that age who wouldn’t act the same way. I see it everyday. She was just unfortunate.

      I also think this whole thing about being kidnapped is overblown. A young American girl is more likely to end up in Russia or China if kidnapped. The scene in South America is just too open to hide somebody. All one would have to do is slip a note to a customer or passerby to call the US embassy.

      And that theory ignores the three boy’s story. I find it incredible that they dropped a young drunk girl who had just partied with them outside a hotel & drove off!!! Their story also says they saw a ‘dark colored man’ approach her. Why wouldn’t they stop then to see whats going on or call the cops?? More likely, they took her to the beachg & triede to have sex – she refused & things turned ugly. Beyond that , I don’t even want to go there…

    53. KTea on June 10th, 2005 1:58 am

      As a middle-aged, retired teacher, I have read your comments. I, too, am saddened and confused by some choices made by Natalee (Bless her!), her friends, and her chaperones. Friends do not leave another friend behind to get back to the hotel with men they have known only 3-4 days in a foreign location. Girls should NOT get into a car with three men unless they are very familiar (which excludes any one met on a tourist jaunt). Young men of all nationalities should NOT let a young lady return to her hotel room unescorted! The reason that I remain suspicious of the 3 men in the car is that I do not understand how NOT ONE of them ensured her relative safety by seeing her to her hotel room door.

      I have chaperoned school trips, one abroad, and I never went to bed without checking each hotel room. The students were usually already asleep, but I made them awaken to answer a roll call. I find it hard to accept if the chaperones feel that they have NO culpability in all of this. Natalee’s friends at the bar, her 3 new male “friends” at the bar, the hotel security where she was staying, and the chaperones in charge, all have a reckoning with their consciences. “No man is an island, entire unto himself,” said
      John Donne. We are ALL connected “to the main.” No other animal on earth displays such wanton cruelty and disrespect for life as man. “Man is the only animal that blushes,” to quote Mark Twain, ” or needs to.”

      “The only reason for evil to prevail on earth is for good men to do nothing.” Let us good men and women comfort the forlorn, seek resolution, and demand justice.

      My prayers are with her family. (And to those young people who have responded previously, I can only URGE you not only to take precautions to ensure your own safeties, but also TO STUDY THE SPELLING AND GRAMMAR OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE, since most of your comments show so much IGNORANCE of both.

    54. Kerbear on June 10th, 2005 9:26 am

      I am now 24 years old, a college graduate, and married. Natalee’s story is especially eerie to me, as the first 18 years of her life were remarkably parallel to mine. I, too, was a straight A student and member of the National Honor Society. I was not on the dance team, but was very involved in my high school—I played lacrosse and participated in many clubs. I’m from an “affluent” neighborhood, as Natalee was. I am also 5’4″, 110 lbs, and have blonde hair and blue eyes.
      I don’t think that there is any parent or teacher in the world who would not have used “responsible” as an adjective to describe me. However, after graduating from high school, my best friends and I also took a week to celebrate. I now feel fortunate that we only went out of state, not out of the country. In the midst of the excitement of graduating from high school, and knowing that I had a break from living up to my “Miss Perfect” reputation until the start of college, I used that week to just let loose and be completely irresponsible for the first time in my life. It was my first time drinking, bar hopping, etc. I felt like the world was at my feet, I had my whole life ahead of me, and I was invincible. After all, living a sheltered life often gives kids a false sense of security in an insecure world.
      Hearing Natalee’s parents and others saying that drinking and getting into a car full of guys was out of character for her makes me wonder what my parents would’ve said of my choices during that week. They were certainly out of character for me, but I still made those choices that week. I don’t feel that I’m a bad person because of it, and I don’t feel that anyone should blame Natalee’s indiscretions that night for her disappearance. Blaming the victim is never acceptable; she did not ask for what happened to her to happen and she certainly didn’t deserve it. Natalee was a kid who made young mistakes, and unfortunately, she might very well be paying the ultimate price for it. Isn’t that punishment enough?
      I can only hope that Natalee is found alive and well and will have the chance to graduate from college, celebrate her 24th birthday, and get married and have a family of her own one day.
      God bless her family and friends.

    55. Nestor Presas on June 10th, 2005 10:46 am

      It is not that easy to slip a micky into someone’s drink if that person is alert. Who ought to teach you never to leave sight of your drink? Maybe your parents?

      AT 18 YOU ARE AN ADULT; you shouldn’t be counting on ‘chaperones’ to keep you alive. We need to learn that being ‘irresponsible’ requires certain skills. Like not leaving your drink out of your sight, like not getting into a car with strangers, like not going to a second location alone. Just like we learn the skills to get an A in school, we need to learn the rules of the street.

      I’m not blaming or judging anybody, I’m just using this tragic event so that we may learn something.

    56. Cheryl on June 10th, 2005 11:53 am


      Dear Aruban friends: Please accept this letter as a thank you “MASHA DANKI” for all you have done and continue to do for the “Missing Girl Case” Ms. Natalee Holloway.Our prayers are with her and her family for Natalee’s Safe Return.

      Also please accept our “Most Sincere Apology” for any negative news that was reported. Please know that the mayority of the American People that have visited Aruba will continue to return to the island and are also very upset the way some stories are told.

      We have been coming to Aruba for 13 years and we have found “ARUBA” To be the “SAFEST PLACE ON THIS EARTH”. What makes Aruba most beautiful is “It’s People”.

      You have made us feel at home. Always polite always willing to help. Always greeting us with a smile and welcoming us back. So many times our car has broken down and every time someone stopped and helped us, even late at night.

      Anytime we went to the Nightclubs the security guards always kept an eye (since we are girls) to make sure that no one was bothering us. They always made sure we got to our car safe.

      People have to realize that everyone must exercise caution no matter where they are, in the USA, in Aruba or anywhere in the world. Especially young girls, they must be extra extra careful. So many bad things happen here in the USA, so they should continue to be careful when they travel abroad.

      Since we are girls and we do enjoy going to the nightclubs dancing, while in Aruba; we can testify that we have seen many American kids and some adults behave badly. Many of them get trashed and look for drugs and cause trouble. We won’t go into details because we do not want to offend anyone.

      The reason why we are coming forward with this information is because we want to avoid future problems such as the disappearance of Ms. Natalee Holloway. In order to fix the problem we must face reality and try to do better for next time so that “THERE IS NO NEXT TIME”.

      At this point no one seems to know what happened to Ms Natalee and we are all praying for her safe return.

      Here are some tips to follow when traveling abroad: (*) Use the same caution that you would at home when you go away abroad. (*) Parents please speak to your children about being careful when going out. (*) Friends do keep an eye on each other. (*) Try to go out in groups and try to have a least one person sober.

      These are just a few common sense pointers to follow.Also for the record, we would like to add, that since we have been going to Aruba no one has ever asked us if we wanted to buy drugs or give us drugs. We always see the tourists go up to the locals asking for drugs, or where they can buy some.

      We feel for Ms. Natalee’s family because we had a similar situation happen to us. We took a few high school graduates with us to Aruba. As you can imagine they went wild.

      Unfortunately, one night it took us 3 hours before we could find them and they were the longest three hours of our lives. We were lucky that they turned up. One was so intoxicated that we did not know if she was going to make it. Luckily she did.

      Our prayers remain with Ms. Natalee Holloway and her family. Again, Aruba masha danki! May God help us find Natalee safe. Let’s all be safe no matter where in the world.

      Maria and Marcella Albanese Boston, MA

    57. Henry Wilson on June 10th, 2005 12:11 pm

      I pray that she will be found alive and well!!!

      This should be a wake up call to the teens and chaperones that accompany them on trips outside the U.S. that when they go to Mexico or Aruba,or Jamaica they are not in Kansas anymore! With all the talk about the world becoming smaller and the “world economy” and so forth I think many Americans naively think that they can travel abroad and expect the same degree of security they have at home in the U.S. . Obviously this is not the case!!! Carribean islands in particular are home to many desperately poor people and drug use is rampant in many of these locations.

      I think it is promising that there has been no discovery of evidence of foul play. I am hopeful that she is merely being held against her will, and the captor will succumb to the intense media and police pressure and relese her unharmed. I see no benefit in being pessimistic, especially with no evidence of the commision of a violent crime.

    58. Bubba on June 10th, 2005 12:20 pm

      I heard a report on “A Current Affair” that one of the three boys she was riding around with that night was a judge’s son, and the other two were from prominent families. Did anyone esle hear that? I think it is interesting that two black security guards were arrested before the people who saw her last were! Only after people questioned the move, did the police go back and call these boys “persons of interest”, but they still roam free! I am white and from the south and I am skeptical of most claims of racial bias because everything that goes wrong here is claimed to be caused by racial bias, but I see evidence of bias in this.

    59. Este on June 10th, 2005 5:25 pm

      Unless you live here and/or have direction connection to the suspects and their stories, it is all speculation. Regardless of how stupid Natalie acted, she doesn’t deserve what came her way.

      I’m American and I live here and I can’t reasonably make heads or tails out of any of this crap. The law enforcement and attorneys just aren’t sharing enough information to make any reasonable or accurate guess as to what happened.

      Think before you write. It’s embarassing how many pinheads post unbelievable garbage.

    60. K Makinney on June 10th, 2005 6:26 pm

      What I don’t understand is how her parents and the Arubian authorities can be so optimistic. Just because there is no “evidence of foul play” i.e. blood, a weapon, or a body? None of those existed in the Laci Peterson or Lori Hacking case either. A woman disappears after a very suspicious evening? She’s still gone after eleven days? No ransom request? Crime history tells us the likliehood of her being alive is slim, no?

    61. mordred on June 11th, 2005 12:26 am

      11:56 Newsflash on CNN- one of the three boys has confessed to murder!

      Although there’s the slightest chance that its a false confession or given under pressure, my prayers go out to her parents with utmost sadness. This story has touched soo many people!

    62. Nancy on June 11th, 2005 12:33 am

      I hate to say it but was their really a question that she was murdered? I pray for her family !

    63. cameron shirazi on June 11th, 2005 2:36 am

      I just want to say something that may not seem like much, but I very, very rarely have gotten tto tears. This story brough tears to my eyes.

    64. Louise on June 11th, 2005 2:56 am

      You people are being fearful nutso!!!

      #1 It is very rare for something like this to happen. Lightning stikes sometimes. Don’t be a fear hound. Don’t lock your daughters up behind closed door for the rest of their live because of this. Stuff happens sometimes. Airplanes fall out of skies, earthquakes rumble, young drunk woman do dumb things, ect…… It is rare, but it happens and is a shame. If there is anything to learn from this is to teach your children to always have and stay with a chaperone, or a designated driver if they are going to have some extr-out-of-the-ordinary fun at 18. (cause we all have gotten drunk at least one time in our lives and we all have done dumb things when under the influence).

      #2 I personally have never been a drinker, but on the few times that I have drunk in my youth, I have done some extreemely dumb things, just like Natalee Holloway has…like going off with strange boys (who were probably also drunk). She could have had sex with all three of them then went running accidently slipping off a cliff and they have been fearfully hiding an accident or something. Who knows what happened and how it happened and who is to blame. It is rare for bad stuff to happen, but it does sometimes. And when we are drunk we all have bad judgement.

      #3 I am glad Natalee Holloway is getting all of this press, but my question is how come it is always the blond blue eyed pretty girls who get all the press and attention when they come up missing. If this were a black girl, you would hardly ever hear about it.

    65. Mike:Irish" McNamara on June 11th, 2005 3:06 am

      Greetings All…….word from aruba is one of the three has admitted to Arubian authorities that “something bad happened to Natalee” and is leading them to a crimescene. Word is that the white guy is not currently in his cell which leads me to believe he is breaking down and coming clean.I have two theories on what might have happened. The 3 suspects are 1 white,2 Pakastani ?According to witnesses the white guy befriends Natalee 2 days before her disappearance. After getting no play for a day and a half he knows this is her last night. Him and his 2 sidekicks slip a knockout drug in her drink at Carlos and Charleys.I’m 99% sure they have done this before to others. Witnesses have reported that The 3 amigos and company got into a shoving match with Natalee’s schoolmates at the bar.I’m sure they did not like some Dutch Arubian kid and his crew of Mid Easteners hanging out with one of their women but they realized they were strangers in a strange land and didn’t want to chance a brawl with the locals. Of Course her friends probably got pissed at her for bringing these guys around and maybe words were exchanged. THIS MAY BE WHY NATALEE LEFT ALONE WITH THE 3 PREDATORS.It’s possible Natalee didn’t give up what they were expecting and things got messy. Knowing full well she would report them they may have killed her. Another scenario is maybe she was so zonked out on whatever they put in her drink and all drinks she consumed,that she fell ,bashed her head and ddied later. Who knows? I hope and pray this isn’t waht happened but things are looking this way.God Bless Natalee and the Holloway family. And God Bless All Missing Persons. By the way……I am currently incarcerated in upstate NY,serving 8th year of 12 year sentence for multiple armed robberies. Excuse my bluntness. The big laugh up here is the photos of the 3 predators acting like Gangsters with G-Unit clothing. Ha They wouldn’t last 2 minutes here never mind the streets of NYC. God Bless The Irish! Have a wonderful Life and remember Natalee in your prayers.

    66. bobby on June 11th, 2005 3:35 pm

      I pray only good thoughts and if bad has happened then hang them bastards. Delaware is all praying for good and that hopes she is found and her family too stay strong in the worst of news.

    67. albert on June 11th, 2005 8:26 pm

      hi i`m in aruba my frinds told me that they were in carlos &charles at the same time as the girls and they were as they say GIRLS GONE WILD that place is know for girls getting on the bar and shiwing it all , i think the gay got a wrong idea about this girls and found one that was “easy”
      i can say to you all not all church girls are angels
      but how is jugging not me!
      hope this comes to a happy ending
      ow this girls knuw all about the drinking age and were trying to score drugs!!!!!

    68. Astrid on June 11th, 2005 8:51 pm

      Okay.. here’s my theory. I don’t think Natalee is dead. I think that she was sold into prostitution or slavery and taken to Venezuela, Columbia, or some other place after being drugged up. I think the young men who were arrested were paid to lie about murdering Natalee (which later was corrected to ‘something bad happened’ to her, which shows just what a tangled web this is), and I don’t think they will lead anyone to her body.. they are just buying time for the real kidnappers. There will be no evidence against them, and Natalee’s kidnappers will already be far away with her in captivity before anyone goes looking elsewhere for her..
      I wonder if I’m right.
      I really hope that Natalee is found safe and sound.

    69. albert on June 11th, 2005 9:43 pm

      sorry i don`t thing that is something that any body will do because how will buy a girl if they can get more girls in colombia and venezuala for less money or eveny free by offering the girls food and shelter????? i thing that theory is used by people that don`t think logicly.somebody in the states must answer the arubian polis some questions because a pritty picture is bin painted for the people of aruba the family and the media doesn`t tell the hole story of natelee the step father even stated that if natelee did some thing wrong she doesn`t have to worry just come home .and it got me thinking why would a father say that .and were is the real father????? and they sad to that natelee allready knuw the ducth boy .and also the security of soul beach festival had security t shirts like one they found on a beach when they were looking for natelee .i self live in aruba and it has a good and bad side i say the wolr it self is not purfict anymore so don`t jug please here in aruba they are doing there best but they don`t have every thing like the fbi has so i think it would be best if they took the case over

    70. Man About on June 12th, 2005 1:19 am

      Hey, whats the deal about dis broad. Anren’t like 10,000 other people missing inside the US? Who’s behind why this story is getting covered 24/7 on all news channels while other missing-people stories are ignored? Just who is she a relative of?

    71. REDSD on June 12th, 2005 7:03 am

      Hey Irish Mike,
      That sounds like a winner.
      God Bless the Holloway Family
      God Bless America & ALL OUR TROOPS

    72. M. Ruth on June 12th, 2005 1:40 pm

      Subject, Aruba, 3 young suspects

      Perhaps common sense should be applied to the actions of the last three
      suspects. Some points that should be made.

      1. If indeed Miss Holloway was the
      subject of romantic interest of the 17 year old: Then he would have
      attempted to have a sexual encounter with her earlier in the week so
      that it could have been repeated and extended after her return to USA.

      2. Who waits until 1:30 A.M. on the last day?

      3. Who takes two friends along? ( Who say that they did not get
      out of the car.)

      4. Who would only spend 1 hour including driving time in a teen
      age sexual encounter?

      5. Who would not safely walk her
      into her hotel if she was falling down drunk as they said especially
      after sexual activity.

      6. Who would not intervene with
      the unknown “security guards” who appeared to help her?

      This situation appears from an objective perspective that she was
      delivered to a prearranged, isolated spot, money exchanged at some
      point and the girl removed from the island. Hence no body, no clues and
      2 men arrested on the strength of the word of 3 men now in custody.

      7. One thing they did not know is
      the 2 security guards they loosely fingered had finished their contract
      before that night and did not wear the clothes that were described and
      that the Holiday Inn has outdoor security cameras.

      Finally: If they killed her accidently through group
      sex, they got a very good story together within  ½ hour, disposed of her
      body and remained calm and collected.

      These people have been caught in lies therefor
      perhaps everything they state should be suspect
      to investigation.

      M. Ruth Peter-Nielsen

      Ontario, Canada

    73. checkdiz on June 12th, 2005 3:43 pm

      Sold into prostitution? Get real!!! Somebody would really take the time to orchestrate an operation involving boats, abductions, etc. There are so many good looking young prostitutes in Colombia and Venezuela and they’re doing it out of their own volition!!! No need to abduct. Natalee is very attractive but some of these girls of the night from Colombia are just totally hot. Visit Aruba some time and do your research. Natalee was most likely the victim of a drug/alcohol overdose, possibly during sex which would have implicated one of these boys in a potential rape charge. She was obviously not dropped of at the hotel because if a young man really likes a girl and just kissed her passionately on a beach he would walk her into the hotel for another pasionate goodbye kiss. Especially if she was drunk stumbling out of a car. And then some story about some security guard helping her???? I would not let anyone touch my drunk date into a hotel. Stick to the rule of common sense people. It always works. No need to concoct some theory about her being abducted by space monsters from the Nebula 7 galaxy.

    74. Psychic101 on June 12th, 2005 10:26 pm

      Has anyone thought about commissioning a Psychic to assist in the search?
      I think the prostitution theory is dumb because he would not be willing and would risk escape at anytime. The 3 boys are the killers and the evidence is in the body if they could find her. I’m sure she was hot for the Dutch guy and the Punjabs got mad when she wasn’t attracted to the “terrorist type” because Punjabs are so hot for Blond American women. They probably drugged her and disposed of her body in the ocean where sharks fed off of her.
      Friends don’t let your friends go off with strange guys….ever. There are too many perverts in the world, esp. ones from others cultures that don’t view women as people, but as property. Rejoice to be a woman in america!!!!

    75. Raising Boys on June 13th, 2005 12:14 am

      It’s a shame that we are always telling young girls to be safe and careful. Why are we not teaching Young Men to be respectful and vigilant toward young women.

      Why have we raised a generation/culture that is so into drinking, free sex, and good times? The kids of this american generation are a shame to the young immigrants that worked so hard during the depression. And

    76. Maarten Mannee on June 13th, 2005 1:47 am
    77. Slee on June 13th, 2005 4:05 pm

      I am truly sadden and heart-broken about the disappearance of Natalie. She is a citizen of my hometown and everyone is very at awe.

      I think that more pressure shoul be put on these 3 guys. They know something and just won’t tell.

      Pray fro the family.

    78. Booyakasha on June 14th, 2005 5:44 pm

      Geraldo is returning to Aruba with Martin Bashir, documentary film maker who made the controversial “Living With Michael Jackson” film that resulted in criminal charges being filed against the pop star. The title of the new documentary will be entitled “Listening To Geraldo Rivera say absolutely nothing of value during a sixty minute time span”.

    79. Gregory Fairbairn on June 15th, 2005 4:57 pm

      I, like most people ,am holding out hope for Natalee to be found alive. The three stooges (no insult intended to Moe,Larry and Curly) stink like shit. They are doing the right thing holding them and continuing their investigation.

      check this out:

      I am a proud American and love my country. My family (and friends) are hard working tax payers with lots of different talents and some of us are U.S. military veterans. That being said, in 2005 our American society has become a SEWER in many ways, mainly because of a small group of influential media “mommys boys” like MTV (which started out as a good idea,now it is crack cocaine level retard programming for zero attention idiots regardless of their age,aimed mainly at urban markets which unfortunately ends up negatively and UNREALISTICALLY influencing the entire country and people like Natalee) Also, tabloid programs,advertising (Paris Hilton for Carls Jr. – you know Paris – the do nothing except drink ,consume and videotape toilet bowl porn videos / heiress and greedy materialistic B list print model (“actress” ? yea right!!) who makes such a great example,image and role model for young American girls) and so on. How does this all tie in? Simple.This”take,take,take” and “do nothing” (Britney-Paris-Jessica-insert any generic selfish bottle blond retard) mentality is directly connected to the half assed, alchohol and drug soaked climate Natalee Holloway found herself in (along with 100 + of her ’05 classmates)in Aruba. Not that her blondness had anything to do with it (brunettes and red heads make mistakes too). In all fairness, there is nothing wrong with celebration (in balance) or drinking in moderation. There is everything wrong with all of us as Amercans accepting this growing PLAGUE of shallow vanity,greed, and selfish mantras that are perptuated by a small group of sissies in print and Television media. Nothing good will ever come of it. Just think of all of the other Natalees you will never hear about. Think about the random acts of assaults,robberies,rapes and murder that this UNREALISTIC cultural influence called media helps to increase each hour,each day,each year ,each decade and so on… I am neither left nor right wing,democrat nor republican, religious nor athiest. I am American. My viewpoint is an observation of FACTS not judgement or opinion (you can get that cheap BORING shit on any street corner or from any (retarded) big mouth nowadays). We need competition soon in the Television media for new music channels(MTV sucks and millions agree) that play to wider demographics and musical tastes (not just dumbass short sighted “spring break” (retard) urban markets) How about improved entertainment channels that tell it like it is with balance instead of the current “brown nose and suck up to celeberities one minute and back stab them the next” tabloid GARBAGE programming? We need the same changes and improvements across film and print media as well. Media that cares. Media that feels. There is no secret to great ratings or viewership or readership. GIVE PEOPLE REAL STUFF WITH MORE CREATIVITY,EXCITEMENT AND NEW RESULTS DRIVEN IDEAS THAT A LOT OF US CAN RELATE TO (REGARDLESS OF AGE,GENDER OR SEXUAL ORIENTATION) FOR A CHANGE, INSTEAD OF PLAYING US ALL FOR RETARDED SHEEP W/GREEDY CRACK COCAINE SEXPLOITATION, BLING BLING, “REALITY”(YEA RIGHT!! HOW FAKE CAN YOU GET!!) BULLSHIT.

      In the name of finding Natalee alive and learning from this example of negligence (shame on the parents, the chaperones and the fake friends) I am sharing my contibution to this message board from the heart.


    80. john justice on June 24th, 2005 1:47 pm

      who cares about this broad?i got my own problems.its hotter than hell here today and my pool filter is on the fritz!!!! she sounds like a tramp-going off to fuck some stranger,maybe even a nigger! yech!sorry,natalie,it doesnt pay to be a whore! now youre dead!

    81. Ed on June 25th, 2005 9:40 pm

      Naive: Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary says”
      1 : marked by unaffected simplicity : ARTLESS, INGENUOUS
      2 a : deficient in worldly wisdom or informed judgment; especially : CREDULOUS b : not previously subjected to experimentation or a particular experimental situation ; also : not having previously used a particular drug (as marijuana)”

      Chaparrone: Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary says”
      1 : a person (as a matron) who for propriety accompanies one or more young unmarried women in public or in mixed company
      2 : an older person who accompanies young people at a social gathering to ensure proper behavior; broadly : one delegated to ensure proper behavior”

      We all have been inundated with the media reports of this young girl who is missing, now probably raped, beaten, victimized in the most heinous manners, and dead, the victim of her own stupidity. Though it is not her stupidity, or more kindly put naive nature, that has placed her into this situation. It is the lack of one major point. What the hell were the chaperone’s doing that led her to become missing from the group. The Chaperone’s are as much responsible for her situation as the culprits themselves. Here are a bunch of kinds, going to a post grad party in a foreign country to do what?…drink water and cokes and get a tan??? This whole situation is pathetic. These kids were heading to Aruba to party (and that means drinking and drugs)! At the very least, the Chaperone’s should have been keeping tabs on them. This girl was naive and most likely from an affluent family, sheltered and had no idea bad things can happen to her because her parents never told her about the dangers of drinking = poor judgment. But the Chaperone’s should have expected this, and expected to keep tabs on all these drunken stoned brats.
      Now her pretty picture is on CNN every damn day, with updates on how all these people and resources are tying to find her. All because the Chaperone’s didn’t look out for her. Would any of you adults allow your kids to go to Aruba (or any foreign place) under the auspices of a post grad party, and not think for a sec that there could be danger? If so, you’re extremely dumb. These party type resorts are the playgrounds for predators that prey on the naive. A few drinks, a little charm and a few roofies and your daughter is now getting the nightmare love train experience! Goddamn those Chaperone’s for not keeping tabs on her. As well, goddamn those parents who don’t warn their children of the dangers of these types of situations.
      And you know what; the media makes this out like its 9/11, “Breaking News”, like it’s never happened before. I live in Texas. And the border is a big hotspot for the young to go play and drink. And Let me tell you mother and fathers out there, many of your young daughters who have traveled to the border for spring break, thier “first time” probably happened in the back ally with a bunch of drunken men who lured your daughters into drink and drugs. Wake up you dumb ass world! Talk to your kids and warn them. Don’t let them be naà ¯ve victims like this poor young girl.
      And for the Chaperone’s, they should be tried for whatever crimes she endured. Those idiots!

    82. Ed on June 26th, 2005 7:40 am

      Doesnt anyone find it strange that there is little to no press at “ALL” about the Chaperone’s?? Who are they? How many were there? What was the ratio of Chaperone to child? Who was the wonderful mastermind of this terrific trip for Aruba?
      I just cant find a thing anywhere on any of these questions. Doesnt anyone find this strange? If anyone has any information, please provide it.
      Thank you.

    83. Marilyn on June 30th, 2005 12:01 am

      If they did cut Natalee up and feed her t the sharks, where is all the blood from cutting her up? It has to be somewhere…hopefully, they will find it.

    84. Alyss on June 30th, 2005 11:42 am

      I’m experienced with domestic and international travel. Aruba is one of the safest islands. Parents have to teach kids no matter where you are dangerous people exist. These kids are said to be rich snobs, & may not have realized the types of crimes out there or been aware of the dangers of leaving the country. I dont blame the parents for letting her go, she may have begged until they caved, BUT they need to wake up, she was an A student, doesnt mean she didnt party or have common sense. I believe she was sold as a sex slave to venezuela or columbia. Either the 3 boys sold her or NH and the dutch kid had sex, went their own way, and she was met by someone else on the way to the hotel. Why arent media mentioning this? Amy Bradley met the same fate. The NH case was heartbraking but i’m getting annoyed. Amy bradley didn’t leave that ship docked in Aruba on her own, she was kidnapped, and got no media attention. Think of how the bradleys feel, Amy’s been in a prostitution ring for 7 years and no one looked for her, this could be your daughter. NH made a stupid mistake, is portrayed as some angel, and Aruba’s getting a bad name. There are innocent people that rely on American tourism to get by, and are suffering bc of this media horseshit. Those of you who dont travel, do not label an island bc of one bad incident. Jamaica is 1 island i wont go to, they have problems with crime the media doesnt show. They are covering aruba bc of a good reputation and people don’t expect it. I hope she is alive but her family is getting selfish, millions of kids are missing. They want their daughter found, urge the U.S. to help, but we have no jurisdiction there, stop bashing the people that are trying to help! NH decided to go to Aruba, accept your not on american soil. Be glad she didnt disappear in South America, the dutch want this solved, not lose their reputation. Nothing new in this case, show something else on the news, a 4 yr old GA girl was killed by an immigrant who is on the run. Bet most of you dont know this bc it’s not covered! Why is NH all over the news? People disappear all the time and those that think sex trafficking isn’t possible it happens more than you think. Any input?

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