Glenn 2 Dave 0


Glenn Reynolds tells the truth to Dave Winer.

BUT DAVE, it was your behavior that was the problem, and pointing fingers at others and engaging in juvenile revenge fantasies doesn’t change that. It was the only dark spot on an otherwise successful conference.

In fact, your “moderation” of the civility session was anything but. You insisted on shutting people down, and repeatedly charged off the topic under discussion to make sure they knew you disagreed with them on peripheral issues. You embarrassed yourself, people have noticed, and the gentlemanly thing to do would be to apologize, not play the victim and accuse your critics of being confederate symapthizers.

I seriously doubt even the gentlemanly tone used will permiate the self pity Dave has cloaked himself in.

For more information, see my live blog of the encounter.


If you have read the post by Glenn, go back and see the email that Dave sent to Glenn. It was amazing that the he is that tone deaf. Glenn is the gentlemans gentleman of the blogworld in my eyes. What a shame.

Update 2; Not sure where to place this, but Mark Glaser has done a very good recap of the things I did notice and learn from at BlogNashville ( Maybe attached to the post you should have done Sunday … Ed.) I especially like the recognition of the discussion page. A Great tool that I saw many attendees using.

Posted May 10, 2005 by
Bloggers, General | 6 comments

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  • Comments

    6 Responses to “Glenn 2 Dave 0”

    1. McGehee on May 10th, 2005 8:58 pm

      Am I remembering Dave Winer correctly, as the guy who unceremoniously dumped bloggers off his domain (, assuming that because he’d been hosting them for free he didn’t owe them the simple human courtesy of telling them ahead of time he was going to stop hosting their blogs?

    2. Tom on May 10th, 2005 9:13 pm

      You have the very same Dave Winer. He is , ummm, interesting.

    3. Jim Hoft on May 10th, 2005 11:26 pm

      Boy, I wish I would have been there! That was out of control!

    4. Blake on May 11th, 2005 10:19 am

      I wish I had attended that discussion instead of the one I was in.

    5. stan on May 11th, 2005 3:02 pm


      No you don’t. An hour and a half is a very, very, very long time sometimes.

      I suspect that the only people who will ever watch the full hour and a half video will be those with a morbid fascination for train wrecks, a sick sense of humor, masochists or someone looking for a text on how NOT to moderate a discussion.

      Even an eccentric like John Jay Hooker was wondering if Winer had mental problems.

      Stan Brown

    6. Tom on May 11th, 2005 3:24 pm


      Think it could qualify as a Harvard Case Study.


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